You only complain about 'bad language' if it's aimed at
Posted By: YOU. Go read the bible and calm down. on 2008-09-08
In Reply to: Why would you call people who just want a nice clean commentary on a board...sm - ms
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and that was not aimed at "cj". That was aimed
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I think we have a right to complain about what is
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Maybe not, democrat, but the one below this by gt was aimed at vs.
and it was typical gt.
Not aimed at "just anyone."
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Bin Laden got what he aimed for.....
economic ruin...........GW played right into his hands...........4 more years, 4 more years, yeah!!!! RUIN!!!!!! McSame even has a cheerleader to inspire the masses.....
that's what this postponement was aimed for,
no Palin / Biden debate. A complete meltdown of the GOP in 2008.
That was CAMPAIGN not COMPLAIN..(nm)
You complain about insult and then
And frankly, I didn't see anything the slightest bit insulting to you personally in what he said. At worst, it was a bit sarcastic, perhaps, but sarcasm and insult are NOT the same thing.
Did you complain when she moderated it in 2004?
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I'll wait and see if that happens before I complain.
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You just called me a bigot, and you have the nerve to complain
Try being happy that people died so you have a right to complain
*FOR WHAT??? So people halfway around the globe can have democracy? Please....*
That is about as selfish a statement I've heard as of late.
What if the soldiers had gotten *so tired* in World War I or II?
What if the revoluntary soldiers had gotten *so tired* in the Revoluntionary war?
Your world would be different today, that is, if you would have existed at all.
Even if you have family or friends in Iraq or Afghanistan right now your complaining and fussing about all the work they are doing is doing nothing to help them. Support them. Send them a letter or a care package. It would make a soldier's day, be it someone you know or someone you don't, and it would certainly brighten your mood in the process. You don't have to support the president or the war, but your frustrations can be turned around into producing something good for someone else.
The caps was so that you who complain about abortion posts...
could just pass it up. But I guess that would be just too much to expect. What it was meant to illustrate is medical fact, nothing to do with religion, at the point of many abortions it is a well formed child, moving, heart beating, all those pesky things that classify we human beings as alive. I do realize that that makes it somewhat more difficult to defend...but I am sure you will find a way.
Nor do I understand the pile on mentality of some of you who post on this board. Instead of posting the issues that are important to you, you seem content to bash me for posting the ones that are important to me.
Abortion is a political issue. Politicians make laws, last time I looked.
Pro lifers are not all "religious." Do some research and you will see that. It is a moral issue. Do you think you have to be religious to be a moral person??
Pray tell, why don't YOU move on? Stop replying to any posts that you don't want to continue. This is all within all of you pile-on flamers' ability to control. Just don't reply. What is so hard about that? I do not post to argue...I post for information. It is YOU who wants to argue. If you don't answer the posts, who is going to argue?
I repeat...it is a free board, and abortion is a political issue.
Open another thread with something you want to discuss instead of taking potshots at me. Much more productive use of your time.
I'm in Ohio. It's aimed at college students for O.
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Okay then don't complain because offshoring has lowered your MT wages. n/m
This lame scare tactic is aimed at
twisting both the free choice of English language usage and the Bible verse/word of Jesus (who you claim is your Savior) to support the claims of a snarky cult. Back in the Puritan times, that was considered blasphemy and the ONES who chose to do this could be burned at the stake.
You make me ashamed to be associated with the Christian faith.
You blissfully ignore that this post is aimed at........
Politicians, not everyday people like yourself.....
Cut the language out. (sm)
It isn't your God-given right on this site, which is privately owned.
Coarse opinions we can tolerate but leave the language out.
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Glenn Beck:Obama's budget a loaded weapon aimed at you.
By Glenn Beck
Host, “Glenn Beck“
Hello America,
If you had any doubt that we were on “The Road to Socialism,” President Obama’s just released budget should clear up that confusion. In fact, we’re so on The Road to Socialism that Barack Obama’s budget reads like he went to MapQuest and printed out turn-by-turn directions to get us to socialism as quickly as possible. So far, President Obama is really making a big scary mess of things and this budget is a giant step in the wrong direction.
Believe me–I understand that I’m not the only one who feels this way. But there have been lots of times in my career when I felt like I was all alone in my thinking (and that’s exactly why I’m having my “We Surround Them” event on March 13th…so you know that you’re not alone –click here for more details). So it’s always comforting for me when I hear others saying the same thing. Just this past weekend on “FOX News Sunday,” host Chris Wallace asked Arizona’s Republican Senator Jon Kyl, “How big a change in direction does the Obama budget represent in the relationship between government and the American people?” Without missing a beat, Senator Kyl quoted The Wall Street Journal by saying, “The budget represents a historical shift in the ideological direction of U.S. economic policy.” No mincing words there. Then he reminded everyone that The Wall Street Journal also stated in an editorial that President Obama is attempting to expand the role of government to such a dominant position that its power can never be rolled back. A respected United States Senator and The Wall Street Journal–oh, I like that company. (Too bad we’re all agreeing on how bad things are getting.)
Here are some of the budget’s broad strokes:
* Obama’s budget takes the size of our government to the largest it’s been since World War II.
* It’s got a $1.4 trillion tax increase in it (and oh yeah–we’re in the middle of a recession).
* It doubles the debt in eight years.
* It never balances the budget and proposes that, for the next 10 years, our deficits are at a record high.
Hmmm. Usually I like to frame things in a “good news / bad news” context. That just won’t work here, but I don’t want to be a big downer. So let me put on a happy face and say that all the above was merely the regular, garden-variety bad news! Now here comes the super awful really bad news:
* Like a loaded weapon, this budget is aimed directly at you.
Is there a quicker way to end a honeymoon period for a new president than to propose a bunch of new taxes? It’s going to take a lot of serenading from Beyonce to make people forget about having less money…especially in this economy. See, not only is there a proposed huge tax increase for the energy and manufacturing sectors (and those get passed on to everyone), but overall tax rates are going up. All this is a real gut shot for small business. What too many people fail to remember is that small business is big business in America–over 70% of all American business is done by a small business. That means it’s likely that you either own or work for one, so President Obama wants more of your money (and I’m guessing it’s not like you have a whole lot extra lying around these days.)
And then there’s Obama’s suggestion of a “long-term investment in the economy.” That’s a fancy way of saying “increased spending.” (You don’t exactly need a decoder ring to figure that one out.) Another $30 billion for AIG…after they paid out six and seven figure bonuses and recorded the highest quarterly loss ever–over $60 billion–in U.S. history? How deep can our pockets be expected to be? Remember–every dollar the government “invests” in failing businesses is one of your dollars. If you had a stock broker who made the kind of crappy investments Washington has been making (and wants to make more of), you’d have fired them long ago.
This really isn’t that new a story–Democrats have a reputation of taxing and spending because, well…they always tax and spend. President Obama tries to soften his budget’s blow by stating that the tax increases don’t kick in until 2011. Um, Mr. President? It’s not exactly like 2011 is off in the sci-fi future where we’ll all have flying cars and live the life of George Jetson. Just like you need to plan ahead for re-election, small business owners need to do the same thing–plan for their future. So congratulations–now they’re doing that by bracing themselves for the tax avalanche coming their way in just a little over a year and a half from now. So instead of fueling the economy now–when we need it–business will tighten its belt and lower today’s bottom line in preparation for tomorrow’s new taxes. That lowers tax receipts! Instead of getting better, things get worse. Even I get that, and I’m the alcoholic rodeo clown.
Is it Election Day, 2012 yet?
Semitic language
The Semitic language is spoken in a variety of dialects spoken by nearly 200 million people. One branch is Hebrew, another is Arabic to name a few. Just because Barack's name means "blessing" does not mean anything.
Learning a second language.
You raised some important points on which I would like to comment. If you are an MT, some of this will already be familiar to you, since we all have gone through the process of acquiring advanced medical language skills.
My husband speaks 5 languages (Farsi (L), Armenian, Greek, German (L) and English (L), and is literate (L) in 3. We met in 1990 as pen pals, a hobby he had adopted to facilitate acquiring and refining his literacy in English. From what he tells me and what I learned from this process, there seem to be certain distinct stages of learning and using another language.
Formal classes or other types of instruction to learn basic vocabulary, phonetics, entymology, grammar/syntax, reading, writing and comprehension, both written and verbal.
Practice, practice and practice some more. Use it or lose it. Typically, beyond the basics, the student will progress through the easiest to the most difficult skills in stages. The first 4 basics (stage 1), followed by the next 2 (stage 2), then written/reading and verbal comprehension (stage 3).
Verbal comprehension in and of itself is also a 2-stage process. In that final stage, most often the student will understand the foreign language much more easily (and for a much longer period of time) when it is spoken to them or around them. The most difficult stage of foreign language usage is the final stage of actually being able to produce coherent conversation with confidence.
Most of us never really get beyond the classroom/instruction level. It is a real challenge to find the time and the stage on which the remainder of the process can be played out. Here are a few ideas on how to overcome that obstacle.
· Finding venues for Spanish acquisition is pretty easy. Watch TV in that language. Start out with children’s programs and advance according to your comfort level.
· Rent movies. The ones with subtitles are particularly helpful.
· Listen to music and/or radio stations.
· Read books. Again, start with children’s and work your way up.
· Put yourself in environments where that language is being used. Perhaps you could volunteer to tutor an ESL student who speaks your language of interest. Church services, ethnic restaurants, public events, etc. Speaking events, such as public political forums, where both languages may be spoken are particularly helpful.
· Find an on-line language partner. See below.
· Make friends with someone who speaks that language.
· Find a pen pal.
Here are a few resources:
- ESL Idea Generator. Great ideas on how to teach English as a second language. Find access to a language partner and you and your partner could try some of these suggestions. It is really fun to do…kind of like a game of charades.
http://iteslj.org/Techniques/Houston-TeachingIdeas.html
http://www.sharedtalk.com/index.aspx?SRC=GAds.SN.en.Language.Exchange&gclid=CIqy8JrcyZQCFSEragodImWSkw
- TT 4 You On-Line Language Exchange. Voice chat forum / enhance conversation skills. Handy translation query text box
http://www.tt4you.com/
Most importantly, keep is casual and fun.
Foreign language
Forgot to say that my foreign language was Latin and my memory is about as dead as the language.
the English language - that's
what I HAVE. Comes in handy with my job.
Is English your third language or what?
Sheep are easily fleeced. Oh-baaaaaaaaaa-ma.
I don't believe that the language of your parents. sm
has anything to do with being qualified to be the POTUS. We are about to have a POTUS whose father was not a US citizen.
Well, there you have it, the language of obama
when is a tax not a tax? when it is a cost of living increase brought on by government regulations that are expensive to comply with.
when are promises made to be broken? when they are airy-fairy generalities made in order to buy votes. *no tax increase* can now be claimed to have meant about anything. he will claim he meant no income tax increase, but didn't mean: no tobacco tax, gasoline tax, excise tax, tax on internet, etc.
how silly all of you are who voted for obama thinking you would have more money in your pockets (taken from the wealthy), healthcare would be free and manna would fall from heaven. you fell for the biggest sucker play in history.
Well, there you have it, the language of obama
when is a tax not a tax? when it is a cost of living increase brought on by government regulations that are expensive to comply with.
when are promises made to be broken? when they are airy-fairy generalities made in order to buy votes. *no tax increase* can now be claimed to have meant about anything. he will claim he meant no income tax increase, but didn't mean: no tobacco tax, gasoline tax, excise tax, tax on internet, etc.
how silly all of you are who voted for obama thinking you would have more money in your pockets (taken from the wealthy), healthcare would be free and manna would fall from heaven. you fell for the biggest sucker play in history.
Still can't come up with that refundable credit language?
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I NEVER START with rude language,
I only REACT to it.
Like SELF-DEFENCE. ever heard of this?
Obama's New Spanish Language TV Ad Es Erróneo...sm
Political Punch
Power, pop, and probings from ABC News Senior National Correspondent Jake Tapper
From the Fact Check Desk: Obama's New Spanish Language TV Ad Es Erróneo
September 17, 2008 5:53 PM
Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., has launched a new Spanish-language TV ad that seeks to paint Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., as anti-immigrant, even tying the Republican to his longtime conservative talk-radio nemesis Rush Limbaugh.
As first reported by the Washington Post, Obama's ad features a narrator saying: "They want us to forget the insults we’ve put up with…the intolerance…they made us feel marginalized in this country we love so much."
The screen then shows these two quotes from Limbaugh:
“…stupid and unskilled Mexicans”
—Rush Limbaugh
"You shut your mouth or you get out!”
—Rush Limbaugh
The narrator then says, “John McCain and his Republican friends have two faces. One that says lies just to get our vote…and another, even worse, that continues the policies of George Bush that put special interests ahead of working families. John McCain…more of the same old Republican tricks.”
There are some real factual problems with this ad, which is titled “Dos Caras,” or two faces.
First of all, tying Sen. McCain – especially on the issue of immigration reform – to Limbaugh is unfair.
Limbaugh opposed McCain on that issue. Vociferously. And in a larger sense, it’s unfair to link McCain to Limbaugh on a host of issues since Limbaugh, as any even occasional listener of his knows, doesn’t particularly care for McCain.
Second, the quotes of Limbaugh’s are out of context.
Railing against NAFTA in 1993, Limbaugh said, "If you are unskilled and uneducated, your job is going south. Skilled workers, educated people are going to do fine 'cause those are the kinds of jobs NAFTA is going to create. If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people, I'm serious, let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do -- let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work."
Not one of his most eloquent moments, to be sure, but his larger point was that NAFTA would mean that unskilled stupid Mexicans would be doing the jobs of unskilled stupid Americans.
I’m not going to defend how he said it, but to act as if this was just a moment of Limbaugh slurring Mexicans is not accurate. Though again, certainly if people were offended I could understand why.
The second quote is totally unfair. In 2006, Limbaugh was mocking Mexican law, and he wrote:
“Everybody's making immigration proposals these days. Let me add mine to the mix. Call it The Limbaugh Laws:
“First: If you immigrate to our country, you have to speak the native language. You have to be a professional or an investor; no unskilled workers allowed. Also, there will be no special bilingual programs in the schools with the Limbaugh Laws. No special ballots for elections. No government business will be conducted in your language. Foreigners will not have the right to vote or hold political office.
“If you're in our country, you cannot be a burden to taxpayers. You are not entitled to welfare, food stamps, or other government goodies. You can come if you invest here: an amount equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage. If not, stay home. But if you want to buy land, it'll be restricted. No waterfront, for instance. As a foreigner, you must relinquish individual rights to the property.
“And another thing: You don't have the right to protest. You're allowed no demonstrations, no foreign flag waving, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our President or his policies. You're a foreigner: shut your mouth or get out! And if you come here illegally, you're going to jail.
“You think the Limbaugh Laws are harsh? Well, every one of the laws I just mentioned are actual laws of Mexico today! That' how the Mexican government handles immigrants to their country. Yet Mexicans come here illegally and protest in our streets!
“How do you say ‘double standard’ in Spanish? How about: ‘No mas!’”
But even if one is uninclined to see Limbaugh's quotes as having been taken unfairly out of context, linking them to McCain makes as much sense as running a quote from Bill Maher and linking it to Obama.
Asked for backup as to how Obama could link McCain to Limbaugh, the campaign provided this interview with McCain refusing to condemn the Minutemen from from the Kansas City Star:
Q: ‘Are they a good thing? The Civil Defense Corps, do you think -- do they help in the immigration fight, or not?’
A: ‘I think they're citizens who are entitled to being engaged in the process. They're obviously very concerned about immigration.’
Q: ‘Are they helpful?’
A: ‘I think that's up to others to judge. I don't agree with them, but they certainly are exercising their legal rights as citizens.’
Asked about the “lies” they’re accusing McCain of telling, the Obama campaign provided evidence that McCain in July 2008 told LA Raza that he would have voted for the DREAM act, a bill that provides scholarships for the children of illegal immigrants, even thought he earlier in the campaign season said he would have voted against the bill.
Let’s delver further into this.
In the November 2007, Myrtle Beach Sun-News, McCain said of the DREAM Act, which he had cosponsored in the past, "I think it has certain virtues associated with it. And I think other things have virtues associated with it. But the message is they want the borders secured first."
The newspaper noted that McCain said he’d vote against a temporary worker program, even though he supports the idea. "I will vote against anything until we secure the borders," he said. "There is no way we're going to enact piecemeal immigration reform."
Before La Raza, McCain was asked by a young Latina if he’d support the DREAM Act, and he said, “Yes. Yes.”
The full exchange, however, goes like this:
QUESTIONER: Hi. I’m a part of One Dream 2009 and I am one of the 6 million who either have an undocumented parent or is undocumented and I wanted to know if you would support humanity all around the world and support our Dream Act that we are trying to pass.
MCCAIN: Yes. Yes. Thank you. But I will also enforce the existing laws of a country. And a nation’s first requirement is the nation’s security, and that’s why we have to have our borders secured. But, we can have a way and a process of people obtaining citizenship in this country. And, we cannot penalize people who come here legally and people who wait legally. And so, that’s a fundamental principle on which we have to operate. Thank you.
The Obama campaign also provided a number of seemingly conflicting comments McCain has made about offering greater funding for education programs in the No Child Left Behind act -- telling the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials in June that he “would fully fund those programs that have never been fully funded,” while not suggesting any greater funding for the bill when he’s talked about education in front of whiter audiences.
That ignores the fact that McCain has suggested reallocating the way the $23 billion for NCLB is spent.
McCain has changed his rhetoric and his emphasis when discussing immigration after almost losing the GOP presidential nomination because of it.
He now says the borders must be secured before anything else happens. And in that, he’s opened himself up to charges of flip-flopping, though the Obama campaign is quoting him selectively and unfairly to make their points.
The greater implication the ad makes, however, is that McCain is no friend to Latinos at all, beyond issues of funding the DREAM act or how NCLB money is distributed. By linking McCain to Limbaugh’s quotes, twisting Limbaugh’s quotes, and tying McCain to more extremist anti-immigration voices, the Obama campaign has crossed a line into misleading the viewers of its new TV ad. In Spanish, the word is erróneo.
-- jpt
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/from-the-fact-1.html
ohhhh so now that I found the refundable language you were looking for...
now you are yiping double standard.
Does McCain's tax credit for health care remove someone's federal tax liability? No.
Is it aimed specifically at the "bottom?" No.
Not even remotely the same. Obama has said himself...spread the wealth. Start from the bottom up. Redistribute that wealth. Have you looked at his history at all? Of course not...wouldn't want that idol to have clay feet.
Now you're speaking my language. Single parenthood
world void of credit cards. Never used one. Not once. Have only paid off one car loan in my entire (long) life...the rest of it, cash and carry, pay as you go. Paid for my condo that way and became proud owner of Acura 2.2 CL in the absence of interest back in the 90s, good ole days from where I sit now. Passed these survival skills along to my son. Credit crunch has left us unscathed. We are wondering how the rest of the folks will fare once the recession (let's not quibble and say it OUT LOUD) sets in. Guess they will have to see what it feels like to live like the great unwashed underbelly. We expect the tables will turn on some of them but will be happy to help them out and give them a "hand up," when the time comes.
freedom of speech excludes and stops at slander and foul language...sm
You are slandering the President of the United States out of ignorance, shame on you!
Where is this written in the Constitution that it is allowed to grossly insult the President?
Even if I disagree with the decisions of the President, I would NEVER slander him.
I am an independent, not a liberal, and I never slandered Bush, although I very much disagreed with him.
Therefore there are presidential elections set every 4 years, when we can elect another President, but we are disrespecting ourselves by slandering the President the majority of the population voted.
And you are calling yourselves
American citizens?
What a hypocrisy.
You are insulting the incumbent President of the United States of America and it is not even PROVEN that he made mistakes up until now. That you disagree with him, does not make it a mistakes from O's side. Or do you want to say that you are better qualified to be the President of the United States?
Can you all look into the future, like Nostradamus?
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