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sorry 'bout that...this one should work

Posted By: MTPockets on 2008-09-25
In Reply to: I found this almost sad... - MTPockets

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/24/eveningnews/main4476173.shtml


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sorry 'bout that GoUrdpainter!!! nm
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How 'bout something a little newer......

September 18, 2008: Edge of Collapse




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02/11/09 Baltimore, Maryland When Bob Woodward slaps together his next instant-history book about the Panic of ‘08 (c’mon, you just know he’s going to), I imagine the book will open with the events of September 18-19, 2008.


Just using public sources, it’s now easy to glean that on those two days, a run on money-market funds brought the financial system to the edge of collapse, and Hank Paulson was threatening members of Congress with martial law if they didn’t pass a bailout.


The collapse revelation came a few days ago from Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D-Pennsylvania) when he was interviewed on C-Span.


On Thursday [the 18th], at about 11 o’clock in the morning, the Federal Reserve noticed a tremendous drawdown of money market accounts in the United States to a tune of $550 billion being drawn out in a matter of an hour or two.


The Treasury opened up its window to help. They pumped $105 billion into the system and quickly realized that they could not stem the tide. We were having an electronic run on the banks.


They decided to close the operation, close down the money accounts, and announce a guarantee of $250,000 per account so there wouldn’t be further panic and there. And that’s what actually happened.


If they had not done that their estimation was that by two o’clock that afternoon, $5.5 trillion would have been drawn out of the money market system of the United States, would have collapsed the entire economy of the United States, and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed.


Now we talked at that time about what would have happened if that happened. It would have been the end of our economic system and our political system as we know it.




Couple this with the remarks of Rep. Brad Sherman (D-California) on the House floor just days after the first bailout bill went down in flames.  “Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill… that the sky would fall, the market would drop 2000-3000 points the first day, another couple thousand the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no.”


Careless bloggers have jumped to the conclusion this threat was delivered the same day there was a run on the money-market funds.  But by the recollection of Sen. James Inhofe — who confirmed to a Tulsa radio station it was Hank Paulson himself who delivered that threat — the discussion took place on Friday the 19th.


It’s possible Paulson resorted to such dire language because the Dow popped 400-plus points in the final hours of trading the day before on rumors that Treasury and the Fed were hatching one of their many rescue plans — a rally that continued into the first hours of trading Friday.  Ordinary scare language wouldn’t do under those circumstances.  Or it’s possible Inhofe’s memory is fuzzy and the threat came the same day that everything nearly melted down.


Well, I’m sure Bob Woodward can make a few phone calls and clear up any discrepancies on the time frame.  In the meantime, I’m more concerned about the potential for another Black Swan to show up before the month is out.


How 'bout something a little newer......

September 18, 2008: Edge of Collapse




leadimage

02/11/09 Baltimore, Maryland When Bob Woodward slaps together his next instant-history book about the Panic of ‘08 (c’mon, you just know he’s going to), I imagine the book will open with the events of September 18-19, 2008.


Just using public sources, it’s now easy to glean that on those two days, a run on money-market funds brought the financial system to the edge of collapse, and Hank Paulson was threatening members of Congress with martial law if they didn’t pass a bailout.


The collapse revelation came a few days ago from Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D-Pennsylvania) when he was interviewed on C-Span.


On Thursday [the 18th], at about 11 o’clock in the morning, the Federal Reserve noticed a tremendous drawdown of money market accounts in the United States to a tune of $550 billion being drawn out in a matter of an hour or two.


The Treasury opened up its window to help. They pumped $105 billion into the system and quickly realized that they could not stem the tide. We were having an electronic run on the banks.


They decided to close the operation, close down the money accounts, and announce a guarantee of $250,000 per account so there wouldn’t be further panic and there. And that’s what actually happened.


If they had not done that their estimation was that by two o’clock that afternoon, $5.5 trillion would have been drawn out of the money market system of the United States, would have collapsed the entire economy of the United States, and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed.


Now we talked at that time about what would have happened if that happened. It would have been the end of our economic system and our political system as we know it.




Couple this with the remarks of Rep. Brad Sherman (D-California) on the House floor just days after the first bailout bill went down in flames.  “Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill… that the sky would fall, the market would drop 2000-3000 points the first day, another couple thousand the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no.”


Careless bloggers have jumped to the conclusion this threat was delivered the same day there was a run on the money-market funds.  But by the recollection of Sen. James Inhofe — who confirmed to a Tulsa radio station it was Hank Paulson himself who delivered that threat — the discussion took place on Friday the 19th.


It’s possible Paulson resorted to such dire language because the Dow popped 400-plus points in the final hours of trading the day before on rumors that Treasury and the Fed were hatching one of their many rescue plans — a rally that continued into the first hours of trading Friday.  Ordinary scare language wouldn’t do under those circumstances.  Or it’s possible Inhofe’s memory is fuzzy and the threat came the same day that everything nearly melted down.


Well, I’m sure Bob Woodward can make a few phone calls and clear up any discrepancies on the time frame.  In the meantime, I’m more concerned about the potential for another Black Swan to show up before the month is out.


How 'bout something a little newer......

September 18, 2008: Edge of Collapse




leadimage

02/11/09 Baltimore, Maryland When Bob Woodward slaps together his next instant-history book about the Panic of ‘08 (c’mon, you just know he’s going to), I imagine the book will open with the events of September 18-19, 2008.


Just using public sources, it’s now easy to glean that on those two days, a run on money-market funds brought the financial system to the edge of collapse, and Hank Paulson was threatening members of Congress with martial law if they didn’t pass a bailout.


The collapse revelation came a few days ago from Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D-Pennsylvania) when he was interviewed on C-Span.


On Thursday [the 18th], at about 11 o’clock in the morning, the Federal Reserve noticed a tremendous drawdown of money market accounts in the United States to a tune of $550 billion being drawn out in a matter of an hour or two.


The Treasury opened up its window to help. They pumped $105 billion into the system and quickly realized that they could not stem the tide. We were having an electronic run on the banks.


They decided to close the operation, close down the money accounts, and announce a guarantee of $250,000 per account so there wouldn’t be further panic and there. And that’s what actually happened.


If they had not done that their estimation was that by two o’clock that afternoon, $5.5 trillion would have been drawn out of the money market system of the United States, would have collapsed the entire economy of the United States, and within 24 hours the world economy would have collapsed.


Now we talked at that time about what would have happened if that happened. It would have been the end of our economic system and our political system as we know it.




Couple this with the remarks of Rep. Brad Sherman (D-California) on the House floor just days after the first bailout bill went down in flames.  “Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill… that the sky would fall, the market would drop 2000-3000 points the first day, another couple thousand the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no.”


Careless bloggers have jumped to the conclusion this threat was delivered the same day there was a run on the money-market funds.  But by the recollection of Sen. James Inhofe — who confirmed to a Tulsa radio station it was Hank Paulson himself who delivered that threat — the discussion took place on Friday the 19th.


It’s possible Paulson resorted to such dire language because the Dow popped 400-plus points in the final hours of trading the day before on rumors that Treasury and the Fed were hatching one of their many rescue plans — a rally that continued into the first hours of trading Friday.  Ordinary scare language wouldn’t do under those circumstances.  Or it’s possible Inhofe’s memory is fuzzy and the threat came the same day that everything nearly melted down.


Well, I’m sure Bob Woodward can make a few phone calls and clear up any discrepancies on the time frame.  In the meantime, I’m more concerned about the potential for another Black Swan to show up before the month is out.


How 'bout something to back up your facts.
As far as I know, it happened under Clinton's watch. He didn't want to do anything but talk. Talk got us 911.
How 'bout the "luxury tax" on beer, wine and...sm.
soda since the govt has decided that these things are detrimental to our health. Wonder where the "taxes on" phase will end - in 2012????? One can hope.........
How 'bout taxing health care, too

Heard dribs and drabs about this about a month ago. He wants to tax the employers who provide health care to the employees. Does that sound like he wants all of us to abide by HIS healthcare plan?


More on this later.


Well, I say good for him! 'Bout time somebody grew
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Okay, my friends, how 'bout a little Friday comic relief?
Probably already heard/read these, but here we go:

Only in America. Even though he stole 2.4 million he has agreed to pay back 1.8 million to make it right. So let that be a lesson to all you other congressmen out there. If you get caught stealing you may have to pay back a small fraction of what you took ... Don't you love how our system works? So if you're poor and you steal a loaf of bread it's a $200 fine, if you're a congressman who steals $2.4 million you get to keep a 25% bonus. --Jay Leno

Former head of FEMA Michael Brown has opened up his own private disaster agency. That's like Robert Blake opening up a marriage counselling facility. —David Letterman

A hunk of marble fell from the front of the Supreme Court building, a big hunk of marble. I believe it was the biggest thud at the Supreme Court since Harriet Miers —David Letterman

California Congressman Duke Cunningham resigned from office after admitting he broke the law by taking $2.4 million dollars in bribes. It's kind of ironic. The only time you can really be sure that a politician is telling the truth is when he's admitting that he's a crook. —Jay Leno

In his speech President Bush said we need to rebuild Iraq, provide the people with jobs, and give them hope. If it works there maybe we'll try it in New Orleans. —Jay Leno


From David Letterman:

Top 10 New President Bush Strategies For Victory in Iraq
10. Make an even larger 'Mission Accomplished' sign
9. Encourage Iraqis to settle their feud like Dave and Oprah
8. Put that go-getter Michael Brown in charge
7. Launch slogan, 'It's not Iraq, it's Weraq'
6. Just do whatever he did when he captured Osama
5. A little more vacation time at the ranch to clear his head
4. Pack on a quick 30 pounds and trade places with Jeb
3. Wait, you mean it ain't going well?
2. Boost morale by doing his hilarious 'Locked Door' gag
1. Place Saddam back in power and tell him, 'It's your problem now, dude'
Haha - how 'bout "rich peoples' fat wallets first?"

Well, now this is what I REALLY HEAR when tuning into Faux News...sorry 'bout that...

There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling the transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image; make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to the Outer Limits.


LOL


 


As usual, bringing up the past...how 'bout something original...
your inexperienced leader is already in over his head. It's okay sweetie, you'll get used to hearing your leader bashed and getting no respect. We had to endure that for 8 years now you will for the next 4.
'Bout time, too! This science shows such great promise in
N/M
That could work, PK.

but hey where do you work now
exMQMT? if you do not mind that is.  Thanks! 
Sam, please let me know where you work.
I am an excellent MT who would love to have enough free time to post messages on this board all day long, but the companies I work for require me to spend most of my day transcribing. I would love to find a company who would allow me the freedom that you have to spend hour-after-hour posting to my little heart's desire. Please point me in the right direction, as I would love to be as free as you are to repeatedly force my opinions on everyone who reads the MTStars board. You can e-mail me if you would like to keep this confidential. I want to be just like you!!!!!
no thanks, does not work for me.
I will never agree with you no matter what you say or do on this board -

As far as taxing rich democrats, I remember President Clinton objecting to not being taxed and coming forward that he was against that from the beginning.

{You really think it is fair for those who have been successful to redistribute their money to other people? Be punished for success? I do not get that mindset}

- hey you are trying to convince someone who is older than 50 that I do not deserve anything for my hard work for some 30+ years, not going to happen.

I am from the days when employers had to pay you what you were worth, health insurance, full benefits, etc etc. You will never ever convince me I am better off just by repeating it over and over.

Sorry, not interested in any how, any way or, any time for rich corps to have the right to make me work twice as hard for less, so they can send the majority of work overseas to avoid paying people decent wages or by contributing anything except by their own will to anything in this country at their own discretion. If I am forced to pay taxes, they should be also.

trickle down theory, what has trickled down to the middle class but hardship, suffering, back to slave labor and poor working conditions...

Sending work overseas and all the side-effects from that directly affects me and my family and our quality of life.

Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice - not.
I have done all the work.....all you have to do
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Not quite sure how that will work
but I think he meant that they would look at the value of a house and renegotiate the mortgage based on the new value of the house since values have gone down.  That way people aren't upside down with owing more than their home is worth.  He isn't just going to buy up and pay for these mortgages. 
I know who most will have to work for
The government.....sadly enough. That is socialism for ya!!!!!
And those that do not work get all of BOTH of
@@
Won't ever work

It's not the law-abiding hunter gun owners that you have to worry about.  The bad guys will always find a way to get a gun, just like drugs.  It doesn't matter what kind of law there is in place.  Those laws just punish the rest of us. 


 


I don't know how this should work......nm
Then the whole responsibility would be with the people.
okay .. i have to get to work
you want to research it

the one I am talking about was posted the day after the election

and it was changed on saturday or sunday ...

the site I saw the images posted has archived that and I am not sure how to retreive it.

believe me or not, it is your choice.

and this "change" is just another reason I remain skeptical about the future administration.

peace out ..

work on your

excessive focus on what "they" think and do.  Spend more time on what you think and do.  Works everytime.


 


What I work on...
Working 2 full-time jobs 90+ hours a week, excessive focus on paying my own bills and staying afloat. Not much time for much else but sleep. Truth is truth, the reality is what it is, you know.
do you work in the

overused cliches department proliferation section?


 


If they don't work....(sm)
then they obviously need help making them work.  Hence....funding.
You are probably right. SOME MT work may
nm
and, obviously, you don't work!
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So you don't work?
Must not. And you think the KKK is gone? lol - sure you're black, uh-huh. whatever. Now I'm supposed to kiss your @$$? yeah, right.
Even those who work sometimes have
to get gov't assistance. Not all are lazy good for nothings as you depict, many are the elderly or the disabled. Who cares what they buy to eat.
I use to work for SS and if you are sm
an adult who has never paid in or do not have enough working credits you cannot draw SS disability. You can draw what is called SSI which is a social security supplement paid through your state to folks who don't qualify for SS or don't get enough.

Kids who get SS like Octomoms kids are getting SSI unless its a situation where a parent who was working died, then there are death benefits for minor children.

IF there is no SS for you when you retire it is not because of what people who are drawing it now are getting it is becasue our government has robbed the SS fund. Your SS benefits are based on what you have made in your lifetime. If the fund is still there and the government doesn't take it all, you will get exactly the amount you are suppose to get based on what you have made in your life time.

As far as these lawyers advertising to get benefits for folks who are depressed, alcoholic, whatever.......these people, again, cannot get regular SS disability benefits if they have not worked and paid in. These commercials don't tell you that. The attorneys can fight for SSI (the supplement) for their clients but not disability SS if not worked and paid in.

As far as someone with depression drawing benefits, there are many folks out there who suffer from debilitating depression who do deserve these benefits and are totally disabled. I do know the type you are talking about though, the deadbeats who draw benefits and then do everything else under the sun. I have seen it also. Then I have seen people with strokes and totally disabled who have to fight like dogs to get what they are entitled to. Its ridiculous. I just wanted to clear up the different funds that money come from.

Bottom line is for the regular SS disability benefit, if you have not worked and paid into it, you cannot draw it. You may be able to draw from SSI through your state but that is basically welfare and you have to qualify financially for that unlike social security disability.
I use to work for SS and if you are sm
an adult who has never paid in or do not have enough working credits you cannot draw SS disability. You can draw what is called SSI which is a social security supplement paid through your state to folks who don't qualify for SS or don't get enough.

Kids who get SS like Octomoms kids are getting SSI unless its a situation where a parent who was working died, then there are death benefits for minor children.

IF there is no SS for you when you retire it is not because of what people who are drawing it now are getting it is becasue our government has robbed the SS fund. Your SS benefits are based on what you have made in your lifetime. If the fund is still there and the government doesn't take it all, you will get exactly the amount you are suppose to get based on what you have made in your life time.

As far as these lawyers advertising to get benefits for folks who are depressed, alcoholic, whatever.......these people, again, cannot get regular SS disability benefits if they have not worked and paid in. These commercials don't tell you that. The attorneys can fight for SSI (the supplement) for their clients but not disability SS if not worked and paid in.

As far as someone with depression drawing benefits, there are many folks out there who suffer from debilitating depression who do deserve these benefits and are totally disabled. I do know the type you are talking about though, the deadbeats who draw benefits and then do everything else under the sun. I have seen it also. Then I have seen people with strokes and totally disabled who have to fight like dogs to get what they are entitled to. Its ridiculous. I just wanted to clear up the different funds that money come from.

Bottom line is for the regular SS disability benefit, if you have not worked and paid into it, you cannot draw it. You may be able to draw from SSI through your state but that is basically welfare and you have to qualify financially for that unlike social security disability.

Also if the government stops borrowing from SS and wasting it, you will get exactly what you worked and paid into. you can determine that by looking at your SS statement you get every year.
What works for you may not work
If you are a good Christian, good for you; be a shining example of your faith. But if in the process of being a good Christian you trample MY rights and/or faith, well, sorry, that isn't good. THAT is why I believe in the separation of church and state. We are all different and have different levels of development, spiritual and otherwise. God is the ONLY and ultimate judge; I believe we all come before Him to account for our lives. My relationship with God is between Him and me...no one else. I don't think it is the job of my fellow humans to judge me and and tell me, *My religion/faith is better than yours* I don't care how much YOU believe it.
I can't get the video to work...sm
But I read an interview on the web where he talks about the clash of civilizations. Will read more on what he has to say. I will agree this has gotten far bigger than politics - far.

For the record, I don't hate Bush I just don't think he is the best choice for president.
Thank you very much for such a good work
Congratulations on a great web site. I am a new computer user and finding you was like coming home. Continued success.
Hopefully the link will work
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/TCR-ABC-Path.mov




Works for me. But it will never work for you and we all know it. nm
nm
Link did not work, here it is sm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhh89RVs3ps&mode=related&search=
Oh well, I guess it's not going to work....
You can find the same piece on the 2nd page of the MQ board (11/15) under "Christmas off???...What luck!!!!  it seems to work there just fine. 
That ought to work well for you, at least for tonight.
nm
Doesn't work that way.

IF Obama gets in, then Hilary can't run against him next time.  He would be the incumbent, and I don't see her jumping ships.


She can run against McCain in 2012...


Work less, earn less.....
Well, that is called socialism to the core. Those that make less think they have a right to those that make more, but do they ever think WHY someone else makes more? Maybe a higher education, many many many longer hours and a MUCH harder job?

My husband has worked his butt off for 30+ years and made a good salary for it. But there are sacrifices made along the way. So he should be penalized because he worked his way through college, struggled the entire time, worked his way up in a company and has paid his dues? No, I don't think so.

If you want more money, get a higher education and go work for it just like he did.
That one doesn't work either. What's it about? nm
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and you work with words all day? sad.
x
heck, why work?
x
I work hard and get no help from anybody.
nm
Why don't any of your links work? nm
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Start at the top and work you way down.
then why not remove yourself from the dialog?
I'm here - been swamped with work
Just thought I'd check the board before signing off. I've been swamped with work the past couple days. I also decided to not post for awhile because no matter what I posted I was cut down by others. I was posting my opinions like others do, and posted articles I found of interest and got the usual cut downs. So I saved my sanity for awhile by not doing anything. I did read a couple posts below and see more insults, so at least it's not only me (not sure if that's a good thing). LOL. Anyway...it's going to be a very interesting day tomorrow and hope whoever wins whether it's McCain or Obama there will be some decency and just not coming on to gloat no matter which side wins. Will hope once this election is over time will mend hurt feelings.

I'll be the first to admit it does look like Obama will win (if you are going by the polls), but I'll also be the first to say you can't judge everything by the polls and then I'm reminded of last election and what happened. So mix that in with mostly democratic areas being polled, voter registration fraud, and all that, I've learned not to count on the polls too heavily. One thing for sure, it will be interesting day.

There has been a lot of animosity on this board and everyone is entitled to their opinions. I would have liked to have asked some serious questions, but I have learned just to keep silent as I was called a racist among other things. Didn't matter that I was basing my vote on issues, and that I am a black woman, and that I voted for Obama in the primaries, I just kept getting screamed at that I was a racist because I was not voting for Obama. So, figured I'd take a break from here and focus my time on my work and some other projects. It is sad though that people cannot express opinions without getting cut down, and then watching others pat each other on the back for being hurtful towards others. I was even going back through the past couple days to see what I missed and I saw someone say "Oh look a Kaydie clone". So just another nasty smear towards me without any real reason for it. Just not worth the headache anymore.

So for me, I will be working tomorrow and keeping my ears open through the day as to how the election goes. I may post again on this board just not sure at this point. I may just stick to the Gab board as that is a little more uplifting. Haven't decided yet.

Thanks for the "what happened to Kaydie message", didn't think anyone would notice I haven't been on.