sorry...meant Fox has more democrat contributors than the others have conservative ones....nm
Posted By: sam on 2008-08-27
In Reply to: Agreed. And anyone who looks at it objectively and not through partisan... - sam
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Conservative vs true conservative
The Conservative:
I'm a conservative. I believe in individual liberty, free markets,
private
property, and limited government, except for:
1. Social Security;
2. Medicare;
3. Medicaid;
4. Welfare;
5. Drug laws;
6. Public schooling;
7. Federal grants;
8. Economic regulations;
9. Minimum-wage laws and price controls;
10. Federal Reserve System;
11. Paper money;
12. Income taxation and the IRS;
13. Trade restrictions;
14. Immigration controls;
15. Foreign aid;
16. Foreign wars of aggression;
17. Foreign occupations;
18. An overseas military empire;
19. A standing army and a military industrial complex;
20. Infringements on civil liberties;
21. Military detentions and denial of due process and jury trials for
citizens
and non-citizens accused of crimes;
22. Torture and sex abuse of prisoners;
23. Secret kidnappings and renditions to brutal foreign regimes for
purposes of torture;
24. Secret torture centers around the world;
25. Secret courts and secret judicial proceedings;
26. Warrantless wiretapping of citizens and non-citizens;
27. Violations of the Constitution and Bill of Rights for purposes of
national security;
28. Out-of-control federal spending to pay for all this.
The Libertarian (true conservative):
I'm a libertarian. I believe in individual liberty, free markets,
private
property, and limited government. Period. No exceptions.
USA is hardly conservative (ha!)
and no I'm not unsettled. I am firm and settled in my beliefs. You can live in your dreamworld that the conservatives are coming unglued, but you are living in an alternate universe.
USA right leaning. You gave a good laugh!
If you think CNN is at all conservative....
'Nuff said. LOL.
What exactly is the conservative way?
I'd much rather be a conservative....
than an "anything goes" liberal. Yeah, we make mistakes sometimes, and we're not perfect, but at least we have a goal we're striving for. And for every conservative you ridicule, I could name 5 liberals that did the same thing but the media doesn't make a big thing about it. Of course, if it's a conservative, it's broadcast 24/7 - like Sanford - but the Edwards affair was actually covered up by the mainstream media and got no attention until the National Enquirer forced it into the open. Selective outrage, anyone?
What about what YOU said on the conservative board?
I try not to visit the bog of eternal stench. Funny though...sm
The very people who whine about "intelligent debate" now have whole threads devoted to crying to their mommy about being asked to be respectful. Pitiful.
Pardon ME?! Who ever said I was a conservative? sm
Why would you assume so very much. There were a lot of posts pro and con by veterans. The post I quoted was one that struck me because I was born and raised in Oklahoma and it was a soldier from Oklahoma. My goodness, what a huge brouhaha over one simple little post. Well, I certainly won't post here again.
Very easy to tell you're no conservative
or else you'd have mastered the art of "twisting" and wouldn't have such high regard for the truth.
Lesson 1: Visit the Conservative Board and study closely.
(Lesson 2 will follow as soon as you have successfully completed Lesson 1.)
Didn't you know that as a conservative....
We feel like well, if whoever nominates another liberal, well who knows what will happen. Half the country is happy to have a progressive and worry about another conservative, and half the country feels the same way about another liberal. From my observation, the liberals are so worried about conservative activism, when liberal activism is running rampant. Even in Vermont, The People did not vote for civil unions. Gay marriage wouldn't be voted in by We The People in ANY state, so activist judges are foisting it on us, state by state.
get on back conservative
So, conservative in liberal clothing poster, what is this post supposed to mean? You believe in a god..good for you, I believe in my god too and more power to the ones who dont believe in a god..To each their own..See, that is how liberals believe, to each their own, and by your post you show everyone you are truly not a liberal, you are a false poster, a conservative posting as a liberal..Bye, bye, sweetie..get on back to the conservative board.
This page alone looks like there are more conservative.sm
posts on here than liberal, if not the number would be pretty darn close.
I am more libertarian/conservative.sm
The conservatives in office now are too extreme for me in many areas.
No, he is not conservative - he is neoconservative. sm
There is a difference. Though he claims to be a conservative and christian, his policies and actions indicate otherwise. I think he might have a bit of difficulty getting into the pearly gates.
Same old conservative arguments
Well, if the posts of Democrat Liberals bother you so much (as seems to be from reading your posts), you dont have to post or read them here. I must remind you, this is the Liberal board. I look forward to read dialogue with the opposite view point, however, bringing up the same arguments is getting a bit old.
Take it to the conservative board.
You apparently have issues that are not going to be solved by endless bashing on a liberal board.
Although I may not like the rules on this board I am mature and courteous enough to at least try to follow them.
How liberal or conservative are you...sm
Take a quiz. You might be surprised, I know I was. I am an independent, who through the years, have become more conservative. However, I'm surprised I even have any liberal views anymore. Interesting stuff.
Put aside your differences, have some fun, and see what you find about yourself.
http://www.blogthings.com/howliberalorconservativeareyouquiz/
My political profile is:
Overall 80% conservative, 20% liberal
Social issues: 100% conservative, 0% liberal
Personal responsibility: 50% conservative, 50% liberal
Fiscal issues: 100% conservative, 0% liberal
Ethics: 50% conservative, 50% liberal
Defense and crime: 100% conservative, 0% liberal
george will, conservative
icon, declares McCain temprament unfit for presidency. You don't get any more conservative than George Will. Meanwhile, Sara P has pictures taken with foreign leaders but absolutely no questions allowed. Photo op.
Okay, here it is from NPR.....NOT a conservative site by any...
stretch:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93954519
Slate (definitely NOT conservative)....
describes Pelosi as lacking substance and policy smarts (sound vaguely familiar?).
She said: "I believe in natural gas as a clean, cheap alternative to fossil fuels," she said at one point. Natural gas "is cheap, abundant and clean compared to fossil fuels," she said at another. Natural gas IS a fossil fuel. Hello.
That is just a couple. She hs been in the public eye at the federal level for how many years? Palin has been on the federal level how long? A month?????
Some people really have a problem with plain-spoken people. Me, not so much. I fully understand what "get my head around Putin's" means. Trying to understand him. Or like McCain said: I looked in his eyes and saw KGB. Yup...I think John was right.
Did you happen to see the interview Obama did with O'Reilly? He did exactly the same thing. He would give some nuanced non-answer and when O'Reilly pressed him, he kept repeating it over and over. But I suppose since he did using the "proper" words, somehow that is more accetapble to you? And he is running for the TOP spot, not the #2 spot.
I am probably 1/2 liberal, 1/2 conservative
I don't think I'm particularly dense, just able to sort fact from fiction.
It's not about conservative vs. liberal.
It is about responsibility and accountability and right vs. wrong with regard to using fear and hate to influence people. Rovian politics with its "if you aren't with us, you're against us" mentality will hopefully become a thing of the past.
As a conservative, I disagree.
"Smaller government and lower taxes" is one of those slogans that our side slings around but doesn't have any real meaning that allows us to defend it.
You can't just say such things without defining your terms. How small should government be? How low should taxes be? Government - at every level - DOES have a critical role to play in the life of this nation. We could never defend ourselves from foreign enemies, create a nationwide system of roads, or even coordinate interstate commerce among the states if not for federal government. You'd be paying tariffs on everything produced in other states, for instance.
We need law enforcement agencies that operate at every level of government. We need coordinated programs to help deal with problems like unemployment. We need to know that our food and our drugs are safe.
A better slogan would be "Only as much government as needed to do the relatively few things that government does well, and only the taxes needed to support it."
So? The EU parliament just went conservative.
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Thank you Democrat
you are right. I'm wasting my time here.
Well said, Democrat! Well said.
Applauding. 
Thank you, Democrat
My fingers are crossed too, Democrat...I hope and pray for all of us that our country can repair itself..I have always been an optimist in life, until the last few years..Yes, I will think optimistically..with hope in my heart..Thank you for your post..you are so kind..
Same to you, Democrat!
Hope you had the best day ever! 
Thanks, Democrat.
I've been following this case and have written to the Governor in protest. Someone has to care about America's children. It's obvious this particular judge doesn't.
Thanks, Democrat.
He raises some very interesting points, doesn't he? I'm glad, too, that he wasn't fired. I wish somebody like him (or he) WOULD run for President because I'd vote for him, as well. After our invasion of Iraq, how DO other countries know they won't be next, and why wouldn't they want to protect themselves from an unwanted, uncalled-for American invasion?
We need someone who can straighten out America and make it a much better place and lead by example so other countries WANT to be like us, rather than having our form of *freedom* forced upon them.
No, actually that was DEMOCRAT.
You really need to stop obsessing on me, Nina. You've made your hatred of me known, but it's starting to get spooky. Please find another hobby. You're beginning to resemble a stalker.
At the very least, you might want to scan the board before accusing me of saying things I didn't. It will only take you a second, and you will appear to at least have some common sense and credibility if you do so. Right now, I seem to be your target, and your hateful obsession is quite transparent.
Have a lovely day, dear.
Thank you Democrat..
I have been trying to make 2 points about Churchill for 2 days but it is like free association here. I get everything and the kitchen sink back. As far as Coulter, I was just putting an article out there that I thought was humorous (intended only for liberals as it knew it would offend others and even the heading I posted was attacked) and somehow that morphed into I am attacking Coulter and defending Churchill. Talk about pretzel logic. Again, thanks for actually reading my posts and actually understanding what I said.
Thanks, Democrat.
I hadn't read the part where they included the US troops in the mix. What I read was that the Iraqi Prime Minister wanted amnesty only for terrorists who killed American soldiers and NO amnesty for terrorists who killed Iraqis. I felt this was a slap in the face to America, and that's the precise reason I'm so outraged over this.
It's interesting that you said that's what you *make of it.* Every time I've read something on this issue, I walked away just kind of scratching my head because I was unable to grasp an understanding of most of it. Even the bill itself that was voted on yesterday did nothing but express the *sense* of the Congress regarding this issue. How can it be so important to take up Senate time, including the debate and vote, when the end result is that they are EXPRESSING THEIR SENSE? Seems like a big waste of time to me and lends even more credibility to Harold Ford's view that it was nothing but a stunt.
What I don't understand is why 19 Republican senators would publicly place themselves in the position of voting their *sense* that they were in favor of letting terrorists off the hook when it comes to killing our soldiers, given that the majority of Iraqis think it's okay to kill Americans.
I suppose some sense could be made of the reasoning behind it if we were dealing with terrorists/insurgents that could be trusted, but with 65% of the general Iraqi population thinking it's okay to kill Americans and 88% of the Sunni population believing so, I don't feel comfortable placing any trust in them.
Democrat
I do not and did not excuse Mark Foley. He was wrong. What I have a problem with, is the same people who ask for his head are the same people who excuse the same behavior in Democrats who have done the same thing. Barney Frank...male prostitution ring out of his apartment. Not sure all of them were of legal age. Representative Studd. Had a sexual relationship (not internet) with a 17-year-old page. Not only not apologized for it, but accused critics of gay bashing and that his relationship, with a 17-year-old, mind you...was consensual. These are Democrats, and Democrats did not ask for their heads. But they ask for Foley's head. I am not excusing ANY of them. I find it odd that Democrats do not recognize a pedophile when he is a Democrat, but recognize him when he is a Republican.
No, extramarital affairs are not illegal. PERJURY is. In all 50 states. I didn't hear any Democrat, NOT ONE, asking for HIS head.
I can say without a doubt that they were ALL wrong, all morally corrupt, and all should pay for it. Clinton didn't, Studd didn't, Frank didn't. Foley IS. There is another BIG difference.
Same to you, Democrat! sm
Merry Merry Christmas and God Bless.
I am sorry, Democrat...I just don't get it....
You guys jump to champion Teddy when she has attacked me over and over, just like you claim some conservatives have attacked you...but it is okay for her, keep up the good fight. I am sorry, but that only tends to reinforce the feelings of most conservatives that liberals walk in lock step and support each other right or wrong. Please explain to me how it is okay for Teddy to call me a fool, tell me she cannot talk to someone who is mentally ill, has no common sense, that I defecated upon her...to name a few. Why is that okay for her, and you come along rah rah Teddy, and then complain when conservatives post similar, but not nearly as hateful...posts? Can you please explain to me why that is okay? Because, actually, in looking at your posts, you seemed a reasonable person and not prone to attacking anyone. Is it that same old well, I wouldn't do it myself, but if she wants to do it, I will support her thing?
Thanks Democrat..
Good to have yet another point of view. I have been reading Rabbi Kushner's Book, Overcoming Life's Disappointments. He uses the Old Testament (obviously) and Moses. What I really love about this guy is his working knowledge of so many faiths other than his own and how he can find, quite easily, the similarities...anyway, one thing I found interesting was that he said (and I certainly did not know) the Torah has 613 commandments and more of these deal with the poor (spiritually, physically, financially poor) than any other issue. Then along comes Jesus and what does he say??? My gosh, I think it is the same thing!!! I wish that some of the really right religious people (Dobson, Falwell, etc. could team up with Rick Warren, Al Sharpton, TD Jakes, Pope Benedict, Rabbi Kushner et al) and look at the issues that the Bible addresses other than abortion and same-sex marriage. The most mentioned virtue, it would seem, would be humility and the willingness to serve God by serving others, especially the least among us, no questions asked. In the Old Testament taking care of those in need was an obligation, not charity.
Democrat here
I do check in to see what's going on here once in a while but to be honest all the republican propaganda and lies disgust me. Thank God the majority of the country isn't buying into it.
I'm a democrat!!!!!!
And I am not one of the two that you say have posted here. But I am proud to be a dem!
I'm a democrat
I havent attacked anyone on here. I have no problem with the republicans. It takes both parties to run this country. I do feel that we have gotten off on the wrong track and I do feel that Bush has not done a great job. I dont feel that way specifically because he is a republican but because I just dont feel that he was the best guy for the job.
I will vote for Obama. If I had more choices, maybe I wouldnt vote for him. But McCain worries me and I feel that given my opinions of him, I have no choice but to vote for Obama.
I am a democrat
I did not vote for Obama. I have a question for those that did. Do you read the articles from Reuters and other papers from other parts of the world? Do you watch foreign news? Because I do. I have found that you cannot get the real picture just by relying on our news media and papers. If you want to get a true overview of what is going on, you have to go outside of us. Have you not read/heard the news on O? He does want to make our kids join some sort of community service organization. He stated that would be mandatory. He did have associations with people of a sordid nature that goes contrary to US benefit. And the minute that someone, anyone, posts something that they have read or heard about that man, people become angry and defensive. I am sorry that you all voted for O. Can you not see what is happening? Hitler was elected into office during a democratic state. I am not saying that O is Hitler, what I am saying is that someone with such extreme ideas has been elected to the highest power and there are many signs pointing to the fact that we are going to see some changes that even those that voted for him are not going to like. I think it will be subtle, until one day people are like, what happened to us? Also, McCain and Palin did not win, so let them be! I mean come on already, you guys won, let it die. I have never seen one person have such a following and a following that is so mean spirited. 
Duh! Wow, a democrat is saying that?
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I am and have always been a democrat, but
I don't agree with this at all. I guess I agree more with Clinton's 'don't ask, don't tell' stance. I also don't like how the whole 'gay movement' has attached itself to the Democrats. We need Democrats in power to help get us out of this economic nightmare created by the republicans, and this is distracting & costs us votes every time.
These posts were on the conservative board
where we are free to talk about the extreme hatefulness coming from this board. However, when some people wish the president dead...well that's bordering on a THREAT to the president. I actually be afraid to post things like that. You might receive a friendly knock on the door from the FBI.
Again, There were trolls on the liberal board (no consistent moniker that's the first thing that gives trolls away) posting VERY NASTY replies anytime a conservative posted anything on THEIR OWN BOARD. It takes a lot nerve to argue with the administrator of this board who can delete you and ban you for any reason. It is a private board BTW no public doman. Many of you have been stalking on the conservative board for weeks. You have been posting near threats on the president....what do you expect the administrator to do!? Start talking about real subjects and quit having a hate fest over here and you might find the administrator a little more sympathetic to your plight....
I believe your key point is that it was on the CONSERVATIVE board. sm
I did not post it here and I did not post it THERE in response to a liberal poster. It is no worse than what is being said HERE about THERE. And this could go on ad infinitum and serve no purpose whatsoever.
And those of us who are conservative are living in fear that...
our courts will further erode our society to the point that everything goes. Heck, one third of the country already has to live with the notion that their 12-year-old can consent to an abortion without our knowledge (thanks to the 6th circuit court in California, legalize gay marriage without letting "we the people" decide how we want our society (yes, 78% of Americans are against it), and I could go on and on. Do you like the fact that another priviate citizen can now take your property just because HIS use of that property would generate more income for the government? Sounds like socialism is rapidly becoming fascism to me. You can thank the imminent domain decision to those wonderful progressives on the court. Yes, let's hope we get another Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the court so our country can continue it's slide down the toilet.
You are welcome on the conservative board any time! SM
Come on over!
He has already met with her. See article on Conservative board.
How many times is he supposed to meet with her?
The conservative board is quiet because SM
you and your bully friends made numerous and repeated drive-by postings. Do you know what a drive-by is. It's where you go merely to harrass and cause dissention and then scoot on back over here and brag about it. If you behaved like this in your own personal life, you be shunned and ridiculed. Instead, you and your friends here fall into that dysfunctional class of people who can only be tough on-line.
The conservative goons are all over the TV trying to discredit
what the two democratic governers of Arizona and New Mexico are doing. I can't believe it.
In light of the republican president and republican senate and house doing NOTHING about the problem, they have no room to talk.
At least these guys are on the ball.
Come no over to the conservative board. We'd love to have you! nm
conservative board..YIPES..no thanks
I do not frequent the conservative board, as it would make my blood boil and I have enough to deal with you conservatives on the liberal board, LOL, However, as many Marines that you show me enjoy war and blood shed and illegal occupation of Iraq and war without end, I will show you Marines and Army and Navy and National Guard, et al., who are horrified by what we are doing and have been forever changed because of Bush's illegal, immoral, criminal war.
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