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your remark is totally obsolete, low-class, belligerent ..sm

Posted By: () on 2009-06-21
In Reply to: Maybe gourdpainter did not, but you and JTBB slam - people all the time. -dont be hypocritical at leas

and not even worth reading, let alone answering.

Follow the example of Senator MrCain, a truly decent loser.

His today's statement made me respect him a lot!

Stop your imbecile tit-for-tat and choose a user name you coward!


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    I do not like this man, very belligerent..nm
    nm
    I want politics of division to become obsolete.
    Hope is not a dirty word.
    So I guess people's death bed wishes are obsolete once they die? sm
    You are really sounding very disgusting tonight. I hope you are not really this evil in your daily life. God help your family members if you are.
    helping the lower class and middle class will NOT
    Giving handouts to those that do not work certainly does nothing to help their situations; it only encourages it. Middle class are your working class, the support and backbone of this country. Obama's interference in their lives is just that, interference. The democrats have always felt they have the right to interfere in our lives by taxing us to death. What does that do to help us? It only makes us MORE dependent on the government......nothing about MORE government is helping us in any way.

    I'm glad you think crime is JUST a biproduct of poverty, not race, which proves you obviously don't live in an area where that would prove you wrong. I live in an area where I know that every BLACK has the same opportunities as whites, the EXACT same education and FREE two college years....FREE, FREE, FREE.....all they have to do is finish high school....not all As or even any Bs, just finish high school. Now, a lot of young people take advantage of that but MANY do not. What do they do instead? Stand on the street corner, run around with their pants hanging down to the knees, steal for drugs, sell drugs to make money so they can buy expensive hubcaps for their souped up cars, buy their expensive shoes and ugly pants, and make MORE BABIES, which by the way, I SUPPORT with my taxes. No, I don't want to hear all that hogwash about their poverty. The media has made so much of that garbage, those that don't live in or near it, don't realize many blacks have the same opportunities; it's just that a lot of blacks, especially in my town, have grown up generation after generation living off the taxpayer and see no reason whatsoever to change their situation. They make more babies.....I'm forced to raise them so that generation can make more babies. Do I wish their situation would change? ABSOLUTELY! Do they have plenty of resources available in this town alone to change that? ABSOLUTELY! Do most of them take advantage of that? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!! Yes, the majority of crimes in our town is committed by blacks but it AIN'T because of poverty; it's because THEY WANT TO COMMIT A CRIME!! We have poor whites as well and the majority of those do not feel they have the right to steal what belongs to others, kill someone over drugs or a stupid girl, or whatever else one wants to use as an excuse.

    Obama will do nothing to help those that feel entitled and look to Obama as just a bigger free paycheck. You don't help anyone by giving them free handouts. If they don't want an educate, won't help themselves, and continue to feel ENTITLED to MY money, Obama certainly won't change that by encouraging laziness and lack of worth ethics.

    Making the middle class dependent on the government is in no way helping them; if anything, Obama will be the end to the middle class as we know it today.
    Was that a racial remark!!!!!
    !
    Such an intelligent remark from

    nm


    Boy, is that a laughable remark, *the
    Fox News! And you claim to be unbiased! You knew you were never unbiased. Even the *regular news* have now admitted they were in favor of Obama during the campaign, as if it was not evident!
    Is that why YOU remark on everyone's post?
    nm
    Did you see Hilton's remark about
    No wonder people think she may have lost her crown. Hilton wanted called her a Bi***, but he really wanted to say the "C" word. His video was shown on CNN. This guy needs to go. Who are the idiots who wanted Hilton for a judge anyway? THERE ARE JERKS!!!!
    What an asinine remark..........
    You have been obviously fed such asinine statements and propaganda by those around you that you were NEVER taught that Martin Luther King WAS A REPUBLICAN!!! Now, pick your mouth up off the floor and get over your racism crap. MLK knew all along what the true agenda of democrats have been all along and that was to keep them from EVER having civil rights... one document after another proves that.

    You need to get your head out of a hole and do your homework!! MLK would be ashamed of the democrats.... he was never for any of this garbage they are dumping on the American people. He would know exactly who would pay the price and why....he was FOR freedom, which is why he stood with the Republican party!! CLUELESS!!
    I take back the whining remark. sm
    I will replace it with pitiful.
    black prez remark

    My, how classy.  That so-called retardate graduated Yale & Harvard.  Now who's retarded?  Bill Clinton is plenty of things, too, but stupid, retarded, etc. are things that I've never heard a conservative say...ever.


    I'll let Chris Rock lie in the gutter with his money and his filthy mouth.


    Class always speaks for itself.


    There you go - another disgusting liberal remark
    especially when this post wasn't directed towards you. You really need to keep your negative, nasty, cruel and disgusting remarks to yourself. Nobody is interested in your puney little snide remarks.
    Here is a poignant remark by a black man...

    Posted by: Matt | Apr 8, 2008 4:55:32 PM



    " "


    What This Democratic Primary Has Taught Me...


    Hillary is a conservative democrat.


    McCain is a moderate republican.


    Obama is a liberal socialist that will keep my race, blacks, looking for a means to become whole citizens, never finding a way and eventually becoming as content as before him in their victimhood.


    Settle down - I was just poking fun at your remark.
    Chill, chick. Seriously.

    I was just commiserating with you and your 'names I've been called' remark. I don't take anything personally on this board. Why would I? And why would you?

    You do realize what "LOL" means, right?

    I don't know why you flew off the handle like that.

    Maybe you need to take a few minutes away from the MB to just go out and enjoy life and get a little perspective.
    I was a little surprised at the "snotsdale" remark
    since I live in Arizona.  I don't live in Scottsdale but have been there.  Nice town with nice residents.  Great shopping and restaurants too.
    Thank you for your intelligent, logical remark...par for the course
    x
    Whether or not we are personally offended by his remark,

    I think most can agree that it falls under that old catch-all phrase 'poor judgment.'   I think much of his first 60 days has fit that category, I'm anticipating many more examples of it in the next four years.  This is what happens when the man wanders too far from TelePrompTer and handlers. 


    Bush was considered a cowboy,  Palin a hick, and both would have been publicly eviscerated by the big-3 networks for such a blunder -  yet another example of their ineptness.  Obama has been characterized as so smooth and sophisticated, and this is considered a simple 'off-the-cuff remark' or a harmless misspeak.


    Should we all stop being weenies who are wounded by carelessly offensive remarks?  Sure.  I just would like an end to the double standard.


    Idiotic remark from Barbara Bush

    What a stupid remark from Barbara Bush.  That whole family lacks compassion.  Unbelieveable.


    Barbara Bush: Things Working Out Very Well for Poor Evacuees from New Orleans

    By E&P Staff

    Published: September 05, 2005 7:25 PM ET updated 8:00 PM


    NEW YORK Accompanying her husband, former President George H.W.Bush, on a tour of hurricane relief centers in Houston, Barbara Bush said today, referring to the poor who had lost everything back home and evacuated, This is working very well for them.

    The former First Lady's remarks were aired this evening on National Public Radio's Marketplace program.

    She was part of a group in Houston today at the Astrodome that included her husband and former President Bill Clinton, who were chosen by her son, the current president, to head fundraising efforts for the recovery. Sen. Hilary Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama were also present.

    In a segment at the top of the show on the surge of evacuees to the Texas city, Barbara Bush said: Almost everyone I’ve talked to says we're going to move to Houston.

    Then she added: What I’m hearing is they all want to stay in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality.

    And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this--this (she chuckles slightly) is working very well for them.





    E&P Staff (letters@editorandpublisher.com)


    OMG! What a ridiculous remark from....but that wasn't my point..sm

    Thank God, tomorrow it will all be over.
    And that was a crude, ignorant, presumptuous, pompous remark.....sm
    which seems to abound with many on the right who are on the defensive regarding our situation, how we got here (hello, why weren't you screaming at Bush during two administrations as we all crashed and burned and thousands of lives were being lost in Iraq, an illegal, immoral, opportunistic war)??? You know absolutely NOTHING about me, my past, or my politics so please get some class and intelligence, frivolous, mindless attacks are soooooo overdone.
    And that was a crude, ignorant, presumptuous, pompous remark.....sm
    which seems to abound with many on the right who are on the defensive regarding our situation, how we got here (hello, why weren't you screaming at Bush during two administrations as we all crashed and burned and thousands of lives were being lost in Iraq, an illegal, immoral, opportunistic war)??? You know absolutely NOTHING about me, my past, or my politics so please get some class and intelligence, frivolous, mindless attacks are soooooo overdone.
    I speak English very well thank you, and the nasty little remark you made
    regarding the usage of 'ebonics' and other insulting comments you have made is totally unwarranted and again a cowardly and racist stereotype you do not seem to have a problem posting on this board.  You have repeatedly insulted many who post on this board with your racist bigoted rants and it is sickening.  Yes, I am a black woman but more importantly I am an American and ALL people matter to me, regardless of party lines or color - not just a select few because we are all in this TOGETHER.   But I am glad you have exposed yourself regarding your thoughts - just proves to many here that your bigotry, predjudice and hatred of people different from you definitely casts you in a light that is not flattering at all. 
    I speak English very well thank you, and the nasty little remark you made
    regarding the usage of 'ebonics' and other insulting comments you have made is totally unwarranted and again a cowardly and racist stereotype you do not seem to have a problem posting on this board.  You have repeatedly insulted many who post on this board with your racist bigoted rants and it is sickening.  Yes, I am a black woman but more importantly I am an American and ALL people matter to me, regardless of party lines or color - not just a select few because we are all in this TOGETHER.   But I am glad you have exposed yourself regarding your thoughts - just proves to many here that your bigotry, predjudice and hatred of people different from you definitely casts you in a light that is not flattering at all. 
    it appears you lost your opinion or you wouldn't feel the need to remark on mine....nm
    @
    Wow, my post was totally and completely respectful and yours is totally and completely not. sm
    what a surprise.  Can't stand to be corrected or proven wrong, can you.  Have to call everyone a liar, don't you.  Got to tell people to stick things somewhere, don't you.   TSK TSK TSK  Anger management might be helpful.
    I took a class
    I took the NRA class, but I haven't gotten up the nerve to buy the gun.
    Still low class
    But would expect nothing less.
    Welcome to the Class War,
    Companies that take advantage of the provisions of the tax laws are not "tax cheats", by the way. A very prominent Supreme Court justice once said that no one is obliged to pay one penny more in taxes than the law requires.
    Sorry, he has no class
    Sorry, he has no class and neither does she. They are a couple of scam artists. They got where they got by scamming people into believing something that is not true. And race had a big play in it. People felt threatened...remember the panthers standing in front of the voting areas with clubs, and remember when people said they didn't like his policy about this, or his plan about that and they were shouted back with "your a racist". Then there was the oh so lovely (NOT) Garafool gal that when people were trying to stand up at the tea parties because we were tired of being taxed to death she called them all racists. There was just so much wrong with what has happened. However, back to the point - he has no class. He's a smooth talker and struts across the stage. Sure he may move gracefully and has a pleasant speaking voice, but I don't equate that with having class.

    I know about his history, how he was raised, where he has been, his associations, how he got as far as he has today, and what he plans to do to our country. It's all been one huge scam and we the people have been duped.

    Compared to the last president...sure he has class, but taken on an individual basis he has no class, and if I see that evil creepy grin he has one more time I feel like I will just throw up.
    You have so much class, reveille...
    really, so much class. You could not debate an issue if your life depended upon it. Let us hope that it never does.
    The LADY has class.
    nm
    Pure Class.

    Adults acting like children once again.  Proves my point every time. 


     


    Middle class
    Didn't McCain define "middle class" as anyone with $5 million???  How realistic is that?  I don't personally have, nor do I know anyone, who has $5 million. The "real" middle class is screwed with either of these clowns.
    I agree...what a guy. A class act. nm
    nm
    Nice. Another dem with no class.
    nm
    If the new middle class is $120,000 (sm)

    Then my income will just push us into that bracket.  I wonder if that will negate my entire income?  If so, I guess we may be better off if I just quit? Right now I work because I can't afford to quit.  I won't be able to afford it then either so what will I do?  I wonder how many others will be in my situation? 


    FYI, we live in a small older home that we are trying to pay off so that when our two children are college-age, maybe we can afford it. We don't live extravagently by any means.  What will happen to people like us?


    Middle class? sm
    If Obama is elected, that is something that our children's children will be reading about in a history book. It is fast disappearing and will be completely gone if Obama takes office.
    Class attitudes
    We are all in this together, there is no your side and my side. If you truly have the American spirit you will rise about your petty class attitude.
    Well, you can't say Dems don't have class...
    oh wait, yes I can. LOL.
    Class certainly shows.

    The UK presents diplomatic gifts of great antiquity, value  and meaning and in return we  hand them, what?  Plastic model planes?   Talk about a low-rent reception!  Yeah, I guess we  really are illustrating that we don't care enough to give the very best.  


    A New Way To Tax the Middle Class

    Just call it something besides a tax.


    Who Pays for Cap and Trade?


    Hint: They were promised a tax cut during the Obama campaign.Article


    Cap and trade is the tax that dare not speak its name, and Democrats are hoping in particular that no one notices who would pay for their climate ambitions. With President Obama depending on vast new carbon revenues in his budget and Congress promising a bill by May, perhaps Americans would like to know the deeply unequal ways that climate costs would be distributed across regions and income groups.


    Politicians love cap and trade because they can claim to be taxing "polluters," not workers. Hardly. Once the government creates a scarce new commodity -- in this case the right to emit carbon -- and then mandates that businesses buy it, the costs would inevitably be passed on to all consumers in the form of higher prices. Stating the obvious, Peter Orszag -- now Mr. Obama's budget director -- told Congress last year that "Those price increases are essential to the success of a cap-and-trade program."


    Hit hardest would be the "95% of working families" Mr. Obama keeps mentioning, usually omitting that his no-new-taxes pledge comes with the caveat "unless you use energy." Putting a price on carbon is regressive by definition because poor and middle-income households spend more of their paychecks on things like gas to drive to work, groceries or home heating.


    The Congressional Budget Office -- Mr. Orszag's former roost -- estimates that the price hikes from a 15% cut in emissions would cost the average household in the bottom-income quintile about 3.3% of its after-tax income every year. That's about $680, not including the costs of reduced employment and output. The three middle quintiles would see their paychecks cut between $880 and $1,500, or 2.9% to 2.7% of income. The rich would pay 1.7%. Cap and trade is the ideal policy for every Beltway analyst who thinks the tax code is too progressive (all five of them).


    But the greatest inequities are geographic and would be imposed on the parts of the U.S. that rely most on manufacturing or fossil fuels -- particularly coal, which generates most power in the Midwest, Southern and Plains states. It's no coincidence that the liberals most invested in cap and trade -- Barbara Boxer, Henry Waxman, Ed Markey -- come from California or the Northeast.


    Coal provides more than half of U.S. electricity, and 25 states get more than 50% of their electricity from conventional coal-fired generation. In Ohio, it totals 86%, according to the Energy Information Administration. Ratepayers in Indiana (94%), Missouri (85%), New Mexico (80%), Pennsylvania (56%), West Virginia (98%) and Wyoming (95%) are going to get soaked.


    Another way to think about it is in terms of per capita greenhouse-gas emissions. California is the No. 2 carbon emitter in the country but also has a large economy and population. So the average Californian only had a carbon footprint of about 12 tons of CO2-equivalent in 2005, according to the World Resource Institute's Climate Analysis Indicators, which integrates all government data. The situation is very different in Wyoming and North Dakota -- paging Senators Mike Enzi and Kent Conrad -- where every person was responsible for 154 and 95 tons, respectively. See the nearby chart for cap and trade's biggest state winners and losers.


    Democrats say they'll allow some of this ocean of new cap-and-trade revenue to trickle back down to the public. In his budget, Mr. Obama wants to recycle $525 billion through the "making work pay" tax credit that goes to many people who don't pay income taxes. But $400 for individuals and $800 for families still doesn't offset carbon's income raid, especially in states with higher carbon use.


    All the more so because the Administration is lowballing its cap-and-trade tax estimates. Its stated goal is to reduce emissions 14% below 2005 levels by 2020, which assuming that four-fifths of emissions are covered (excluding agriculture, for instance), works out to about $13 or $14 per ton of CO2. When CBO scored a similar bill last year, it expected prices to start at $23 and rise to $44 by 2018. CBO also projected the total value of the allowances at $902 billion over the first decade, which is some $256 billion more than the Administration's estimate.


    We asked the White House budget office for the assumptions behind its revenue estimates, but a spokesman said the Administration doesn't have a formal proposal and will work with Congress and "stakeholders" to shape one. We were also pointed to recent comments by Mr. Orszag that he was "sure there will be enough there to finance the things that we have identified" and maybe "additional money" too. In other words, Mr. Obama expects a much larger tax increase than even he is willing to admit.


    Those "stakeholders" are going to need some very large bribes, starting with the regions that stand to lose the most. Led by Michigan's Debbie Stabenow, 15 Senate Democrats have already formed a "gang" demanding that "consumers and workers in all regions of the U.S. are protected from undue hardship." In practice, this would mean corporate welfare for carbon-heavy businesses.


    And of course Congress is its own "stakeholder." An economy-wide tax under the cover of saving the environment is the best political moneymaker since the income tax. Obama officials are already telling the press, sotto voce, that climate revenues might fund universal health care and other new social spending. No doubt they would, and when they did Mr. Obama's cap-and-trade rebates would become even smaller.


    Cap and trade, in other words, is a scheme to redistribute income and wealth -- but in a very curious way. It takes from the working class and gives to the affluent; takes from Miami, Ohio, and gives to Miami, Florida; and takes from an industrial America that is already struggling and gives to rich Silicon Valley and Wall Street "green tech" investors who know how to leverage the political class.


    Perhaps you could illustrate for the class

    how cap and trade is not a tax?


    You're a class act, Teddy.
    I hope you decide to stay. 
    I hardly consider myself some upper class individual trying
    to keep "lower class" in check.  You assume incorrectly.  We can't make everyone happy but we try our best.
    40% of TOTAL US population (i.e., most of mid class)
    Folks, this is the sum total of every SINGLE person (not family income) whose income is less than $57,490. Again, if this describes your economic class, ask yourself, does 40% of all work force (those persons who earn under this income figure) do less than 1% or more than 1% of the work. People, this is a question of fair pay for work performed. MTs battle cry. Is this okay with you?
    She actually grew up middle class
    and made her own money. Then married Sir Rothschild. Why couldn't I have found a guy like that?!?
    The lesson I learned is that Sam has class...you are

    The middle class has already all but disappeared under...sm
    republican rule. Based on earnings, we have a huge lower class, a very small middle class, and a tiny upper class that makes over 90% of the income in the US.
    Sad he uses the working class as an excuse
    This man has abused/used the working class/middle-class name to climb the backs of those hardworking people who actually are so sick and tired that they are willing to fall for anything.

    Only he has climbed their backs up the ladder to socialism. Looking at his early years, the only people he wanted to help and still ONLY want to help are the minority. And by duping some middle-class families into voting for him, he will take their hard earned money and increase the welfare payroll.

    It is so disgusting. Flame all you want!!!!
    The middle class needs to realize

    that John McCain's economic plan is designed from the ground up to raise incomes and create jobs for Americans - especially middle-class Americans - and get our economy moving again. It is in sharp contrast to Barack Obama's plan, which does not treat the middle class well and which will reduce jobs rather than create them.


    "The McCain tax plan will allow middle-class Americans to keep more of what they earn than the Obama tax plan. McCain will increase the exemption for children from $3,500 to $7,000 per child, and he will provide a refundable health care tax credit of $5,000 for every family. What does this mean for middle-class families? Consider a married couple, one of whom works, earning $55,000 plus employer-paid health insurance of $8,000, and who rent their home and have two young children. Under McCain's plan, this family would receive a tax refund of $2,087 for health care and other things. Under Obama's plan, including his proposed worker's credit, this same family would not get any tax refund; in fact, they will have to pay taxes of $1,213. That's a $3,300 advantage for that family with McCain's plan compared with Obama's.


    McCain's plan also provides incentives for firms to hire more workers and to pay them more. He will stop penalizing American firms when they create jobs in America rather than overseas. The U.S. tax code now levies a tax of 35 percent on American firms, the second highest in the world. McCain would reduce the tax to 25 percent, an important reason why his plan creates more jobs than Obama's. Another reason is that McCain will not raise the tax on small businesses, as Obama's plan does. Under Obama's plan, the top marginal income tax rate, which many small businesses pay, will rise to over 50 percent, including his proposed 5 percent increase in the statutory rate, 3 percent for Medicare, 3 percent for Social Security, and 4 percent from the phase out of exemptions.


    McCain's economic plan is comprehensive and helps the middle class in many other ways. By promoting domestic energy production, including nuclear power and exploration and production of oil and gas - which Obama has opposed - McCain will reduce the price of gasoline, electricity and heating oil. By promoting free-trade agreements, he will reduce taxes on job-creating exports and reduce the prices that middle- and lower-income families pay for food and clothing. In contrast, Sen. Obama opposes good trade agreements - voting against the Colombia free-trade agreement - that would create jobs in America."