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FABERE (Flexion, ABduction, External Rotation, and Extension)

Posted By: Cathy on 2008-05-21
In Reply to: FABERE or fabere - mmp

Subject: FABERE (Flexion, ABduction, External Rotation, and Extension)




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FABER (flexion, abduction, external rotation)? NM
Subject: FABER (flexion, abduction, external rotation)? NM

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FABER stands for Flexion, Abduction, and External Rotation of the hip.
Subject: FABER stands for Flexion, Abduction, and External Rotation of the hip.


flexion and rotation of the tibionavicular?
Subject: flexion and rotation of the tibionavicular?


more likely flexion/extension
Subject: more likely flexion/extension


flexion? extension?
Subject: flexion? extension?

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humeral external rotation (full can position), (sm)
Subject: humeral external rotation (full can position), (sm)

only found one site on Medscape that notes this, but it is restricted for use unless you are a member to view the whole report...
cervical flexion and extension? nm
Subject: cervical flexion and extension? nm

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Examination and inspection of the left hip reveals 90o of flexion. Full extension. sm
Subject: Examination and inspection of the left hip reveals 90o of flexion. Full extension. sm

No **flexion** contracture. Would this be flexor or flexion?
Torticollis is one of a broader category of disorders that exhibit flexion, extension, or twisting o
Subject: Torticollis is one of a broader category of disorders that exhibit flexion, extension, or twisting of muscles of the neck beyond their normal position. Maybe doing range of motion is causing the shoulder pain?


he has full extension of the s/l elbow box at full flexion. nm
Subject: he has full extension of the s/l elbow box at full flexion. nm

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ABduction or abduction of the vocal cords?
Subject: ABduction or abduction of the vocal cords?

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Actually fabere test (Patrick's) test or fabere sign. nm
Subject: Actually fabere test (Patrick's) test or fabere sign. nm

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?abduction" nm
Subject: ?abduction" nm


abduction
Subject: abduction

The dictator is just giving you help that it's "abduction" rather than"adduction." They just give you the first two letters to help differentiate.
as in flexor abduction?
Subject: as in flexor abduction?

I know that's the opposite but if the finger is messed up...
abduction vs adduction
Subject: abduction vs adduction

I will try to make this question make sense -

When a doctor dictates A-B-duction or A-D-duction, is he supposed to say 3 letters on one or the other? i.e. ABD-duction or ADD-duction? I'm just wondering if there is a rule that they go by that will help me to better know which one they are trying to say when they are not too clear.
Word help (abduction)
Subject: Word help (abduction)

To the best of my knowledge it would be "abduction" but there are so many client specifics these days that I hesitate to give advice.


While I'm about it, I hesitate to give word help on this board because my rules are: 


1)  Never ever guess.  If in doubt leave a blank.  More preferable would be that there is soemone you can call who can listen to the actual dictation.  If I could hear the actual dictation I could likely tell you what the words are but I won't guess and guessing is what most of the word help requests would be, even though I could usually "guess" at the answer.  That is not appropriate for anyone to do.


2)  Lacking anyone to call, my best advice would be to leave a blank and send to whatever editor department your company has.  Ask them for feedback but don't be surprised if you don't get it.


3)  Make a note of the word request as you post here and when your day's work is done, do some research.  A good rule of thumb, if you don't find the word in 5 minutes, you aren't likely to find it.  Maybe your own physician or his nurse would be willing to help you.  Use your dictionary and all your hard word books, research the internet and then learn what the term/word/sentence actually means and you won't soon forget that way.  I always maintained a "help" relationship with a pharmacist that I could call for new meds.  Always had one willing to take the time to look in his "book" and find the med.  Pharmacists have THE latest medication names, uses and dosages...they have to.


Don't despair, one day you will know the terms just by being able to get a sound because you will know what the word is because you will understand how it fits or doesn't fit in the dictated sentence.  In the meantime never ever guess and don't let anyone guess for you.  I promise you'll always guess wrong.


I've always told my students that they should expect to take 5 years before MT-ing finally clicks.  Count on it, about the 5 year mark it will suddenly all click and you'll take off like a kite.  That is provided you continue to learn and learning is really a self-study thing.


limited IN opposition and abduction nm
Subject: limited IN opposition and abduction nm

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some docs say ABduction and ADduction
Subject: some docs say ABduction and ADduction

In my dictation, they will dictate A B -duction and A D -duction to separate the words because abduction and adduction sounds so much alike.  Just been my experience.  I have never posted a reply, but thought I could offer some advice on this one.  Hope it helps. 
Sounds good to me. Thumbs-down abduction it is
Subject: Sounds good to me. Thumbs-down abduction it is


you are right, it does read better that way...but either way no comma needed after abduction nm
Subject: you are right, it does read better that way...but either way no comma needed after abduction nm


? might mean subcutaneous rotation
Subject: ? might mean subcutaneous rotation


subacute rotation ?
Subject: subacute rotation ?


passive rotation?
Subject: passive rotation?


internal rotation
Subject: internal rotation


with 10 of internal rotation.
Subject: with 10 of internal rotation.

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Dictator is just clarifying the word...abduction with a "b" and adduction with a "d". nm
Subject: Dictator is just clarifying the word...abduction with a "b" and adduction with a "d". nm


No, just the 2 letters to give you some direction. ABduction or ADduction.
Subject: No, just the 2 letters to give you some direction. ABduction or ADduction.

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s/l ill-fill hip abduction brace? more info inside
Subject: s/l ill-fill hip abduction brace? more info inside

Toddler with bilateral acetabular dysplasia.  Doc prescribes s/l ill-fill (L-field?) hip abduction brace.  TYIA! 
internal rotation to her arm across her belly
Subject: internal rotation to her arm across her belly

It has been a long day and I need an opinion.  Thanks!!
four levels of internal rotation?
Subject: four levels of internal rotation?

That's probably correct if it's a shoulder exam. Internal rotation is measured by vertebral levels.


S/l Katel medial rotation
Subject: S/l Katel medial rotation


Multiple GSW:  At this point we then proceeded with a s/l Katel medial rotation of the colon which was again done sharply and bluntly in order to properly inspect the inferior vena cava and the aorta, which all appeared to be normal with no injury.


maybe internal rotation is normal?
Subject: maybe internal rotation is normal?

depending on what part of the body you are at.
Usually hear "center of rotation" (nm)
Subject: Usually hear "center of rotation" (nm)


It was center "of rotation"
Subject: It was center "of rotation"

Thank you both so much for taking the time to help! I certainly appreciate it.
lacks four levels of internal rotation??
Subject: lacks four levels of internal rotation??

nm
MRI: under rotation of the head of the left *** (bacampus).
Subject: MRI: under rotation of the head of the left *** (bacampus).

An MRI of the brain revealed a globular appearance and under rotation of the head of the left *** (bacampus). 
fabere - nm.
Subject: fabere - nm.


fabere?
Subject: fabere?

fabere test

Definitions:
1. acronym for flexion, abduction, external rotation; extension.



Fabere
Subject: Fabere


FABERE or fabere
Subject: FABERE or fabere

Does anyone know which is correct or if both are----> In Stedman's ortho word book it is FABERE and in Stedman's abbrev book it is fabere


fabere
Subject: fabere

anybody find out. My steadman's ortho 3rd says lower case and the old Tessier's has lower case.
FABERE
Subject: FABERE

Thanks so much smurf!!
abduction? adduction? apprehension? Google signs + shoulder testing. nm
Subject: abduction? adduction? apprehension? Google signs + shoulder testing. nm

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Full ER (externl rotation) band position?
Subject: Full ER (externl rotation) band position?


FABER or fabere
Subject: FABER or fabere

Can anyone give me a good rule of thumb to use for distinguishing these, or are they the same, and if so - which is preferred?
definition of fabere
Subject: definition of fabere

Patrick's test, FABERE, from the initial letters of movements necessary to elicit it, thus (flexion, abduction, external rotation and extension)


Fabere's test
Subject: Fabere's test

What is the correct spelling?   Seems every facility is different....


I went with fabere as it is in my surgical
Subject: I went with fabere as it is in my surgical

word book as well as medical terminology book. Thanks for the help.
could it be fabere test?
Subject: could it be fabere test?

although they usually pronounce that "fah-bear," I have heard it pronounced differently sometimes.
It's FABER or FABERE (sm)
Subject: It's FABER or FABERE (sm)

FABER stands for Flexion, ABduction, and External Rotation of the hip. FABERE stands for Flexion, ABduction, External Rotation, and Extension. It could be either. Luckily, my dictators usually spell it for me.