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Pupils equally reactive to light, they do not always dictate the whole exam abbreviation, they ..sm

Posted By: Cyndiee on 2008-11-19
In Reply to: He's using the "PERL" as a word for trick or shortcut. NM - me

Subject: Pupils equally reactive to light, they do not always dictate the whole exam abbreviation, they ..sm

do not always examine all aspects on PE.  Hope this helps!


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Subject: Pupils reactive 4 to 3 ????

4-3?  4:3?  New one to me!
Could the doc be trying to say radiant light as in using a little flashlight to check pupils.
Subject: Could the doc be trying to say radiant light as in using a little flashlight to check pupils.

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Subject: ...reactive to accommodation and light? Usually heard as 'to light and accommodation.' nm

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there is the abbreviation MAR docs dictate for medication administration record, but not sure...sm
Subject: there is the abbreviation MAR docs dictate for medication administration record, but not sure...sm

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Subject: Ear exam...good bony light

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I don't think so. PERL is pupils are equal
Subject: I don't think so. PERL is pupils are equal

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Subject: could he be talking about left and right pupils?

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Subject: phrase is usually normal pupils, visual fields and disks. nm


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C-reactive protein
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Patient is a 13-year-old male with a


past medical history of rheumatic


fever and ---- strep-reactive


arthritis? 


 


I am not sure about any of it really


after the rheumatic fever to the


reactive arthritis.  The blank, I


don't know if it is a stuture or


not, but sounds like "spin".  TIA


 


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Subject: How does he dictate it? Is he actually - sm

Is he saying "CBC, MSP, and stool" because stool is not a test so just wondering if it could be the name of a stool test. If you state just how the whole sentence is dictated, it may help us figure it out for ya.
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Good says it stands for keep-open-vein.  So, it should fit, and it also is all CAPs. 
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Subject: Usually if they dictate Seldinger...

they will say "via Seldinger, or Seldinger technique."  I don't believe they would do this en route either.  Are you sure you are hearing "sandwich?"  I have been transcribing ER reports for years and I have never heard this term used.  Anyway, I would not guess on this one.  IMO, it is better to leave it blank and have QA inform you later so you can keep it on file .
Yes, that was how I was taught and most always they dictate cc nm
Subject: Yes, that was how I was taught and most always they dictate cc nm

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welcome; got it from my docs that dictate it as i never could figure them all out either, lol. nm
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Account specifics would dictate whether you sm
Subject: Account specifics would dictate whether you sm

write it out or abbreviate. The abbreviation for beats per minute is bpm. Ask your QA person for approved abbreviations for this account (accounts will differ sometimes which can make us crazy).

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Subject: no matter what they dictate, they are wrong...nm


LOL..the way these docs dictate anymore
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like a poke in the eye to me!!! Brings me to a screeching halt. I just tend to ignore them, in a report, especially if it is a resident. I do puncturate letters and memos, but half the commas I see people use on this board and other boards are totally not necessary. Just call me
anti-comma!!!!! 
If you dictate the full sentence I could probably help you figure it out. nm
Subject: If you dictate the full sentence I could probably help you figure it out. nm


Thanks for finding that. I just had doc today dictate this...hmmmm
Subject: Thanks for finding that. I just had doc today dictate this...hmmmm


doc didn't dictate that....her brain was thinking that...
Subject: doc didn't dictate that....her brain was thinking that...

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Thought so thanks wish they would dictate the drugs correctly
Subject: Thought so thanks wish they would dictate the drugs correctly


or may be mistakenly thinking of their pet's food as they dictate?
Subject: or may be mistakenly thinking of their pet's food as they dictate?


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Subject: wrong - they ALL dictate decubiti...no such word


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Subject: did he dictate the point, or did he say 1 5, to make sure you did not hear 50

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That's what I mean by "ask your QA!" Account specifics dictate style, sm
Subject: That's what I mean by "ask your QA!" Account specifics dictate style, sm

but the AAMT BOS dictates what is correct for the industry, getting its information from sources such as the Chicago Manual of Style, the American Medical Association book of style (which I own), etc. As the poster below states, Joint Commission goes by BOS and does not like "same" or abbreviations for diagnoses, impressions, op titles, etc. They will randomly choose patient charts and go through them to check things like this! It's the Joint Commission which recommends or removes hospital accreditations--a very powerful entity.

So, ask your QA what the account wants. If they want "same," give them "same." For other accounts, do it the correct way.
Derm docs often dictate "Allergy to CARBO mix" - sm
Subject: Derm docs often dictate "Allergy to CARBO mix" - sm

I don't know what the full word is, but this validates your hearing the partial "carbo"