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If an employee, you'd be better off being laid off.

Posted By: CynicalMT on 2009-09-19
In Reply to: No Work - seektruth

If they would just straight up lay you off, you could collect unemployment, which in some cases would be more than the money made sitting in front of the computer for 10-12 hours a day.

And, in a bit of a double whammy, the lower the rate you'll get on unemployment should the time ever come that you can actually file, as most states base unemployment is determined on wages over the last five quarters, so the longer you stick it out the harder you stick it to yourself when they start calculating an unemployment wage.

I know someone who worked 8 days in early June 2008 (his previous work was early spring 2007). He has been collecting unemployment since August 2008 in the amount of $175/week. His home is paid for, he can't drive, and with some investments that pay monthly annuities, he is able to live better than a lot of people, without the stress that MTs endure wondering how they'll make their line count.

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Proscript-Laid off sm

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I got laid off too,. same scenario. sm
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Is this the company that laid off a bunch of
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they did lay off- didnt outsource but laid off a lot
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Statuatory employee versus regular employee....
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Where are these 4 companies that pay $8K a quarter for bonuses?!?! Please, do tell!!

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employee or IC.
IC or employee?
I just checked their website and it states they only hire employees? It is possible to be an IC with them?
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Is this as an IC, or are you an employee? nm
They must be as I don't do employee (nm)
Sorry.. Employee, soon to be EX, at MDI-FL..

Definitely need to clarify that.

Pay for IC vs. employee

I'm interested to learn the average difference in pay between IC and employee--such as, if as an IC I earn 9 cpl (65 char with spaces), as a regular employee what would be the equivalent?  I'm guessing about 2 cpl less, so it would be 7 cpl as an employee.  I don't need insurance though.

Thank you in advance!


IC vs employee
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Employee only. nm
Are you and employee or IC? (nm)
An employee. nm
Really? I am a former employee of one of those
companies and I know one of them do.
are you an employee? sm
if so they are bound to take out state taxes. If you are an IC, of course not. Oh-- and by the way-- you would have to pay your state taxes yourself anyway :)