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Canada has MT union lowest pay $23 hr

Posted By: . on 2009-10-06
In Reply to: IC Status - Employee - dsauverwald

Wow 7 cents and then also the exchange rate, I forget what my MT email friend said it was.  Gad you are making zip per hour.  Glad you are happy with it.  Not me. My friend has some of her own accounts and charges $20 and hour.


Oh well, guess you are happy.  She is unhappy with %20 an hour.




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Well, there is nothing I can do about what line rate is offered here in Canada. I have chosen this career so have to take the good with the bad. And, depending on how many lines you can type in an hour depends on how much you will make per hour - With the amount of lines that I can type in an hour, it works out to pretty average - and almost triple what I used to get paid when I worked in-office, so pretty pleased.
lowest pay ever!
I too have manyyears experience as a transcriptionist.  As the hospital where I worked was outsourced I am looking elsewhere - just got offered 6.5 to 7 cents a line!  This is very very sad for us hardworking knowledgeable transcriptionists - should have gone into coding!
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I think the lowest is $1.10 per report so for a CT abd/pel you would get sm
$2.20 - 2.50.

Specials are anything interventional including a PICC line placement (5 lines and a normal!) to an IR but the operative reports are by the line or hour as they are so long.

For radiology, I have found KS to be the best.
It is mostly because they see what the lowest is they can get away with or hire someone at....
They can't really say cpl between 6 and 11, now can they? And some MTs will take 6! That is what is killing us.
From my checking around TTS has lowest pay
NM
Average, certainly not lowest. NM
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Spheris for one. They have accounts in Canada as well.
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Spheris has both MTs and accounts in Canada.
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And industry would pay the lowest wage possible
if people are willing to take it! People have to be pretty desperate or just not too bright to even agree to do this kind of work for low pay.
They were lowest cpl in my recent job search

Also, I saw an ad for them for $12.50/hour. It seems they are leading the charge to push down MT salaries.  


In addition, they do not pay based on experience.  My 25+ years in acute care teaching hospitals in EVERY specialty counted for nothing.


BTW, when I changed jobs, I spent exactly FIVE reports on full QA and then was turned loose, immediately meeting their daily requirements. So I think Spheris is a better fit for those with very little experience and needing heavy QA. They must pay MTs so little because they have big overhead with QA.


Heads up, I just found out this is a BC, Canada company!!
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Does anyone have any info on Terra Nova in Canada?? TIA
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Amen. Look at Canada/Sweden/England who have UHC. sm
A patient has to wait literally months to get a simple doctor's appointment. In the news just yesterday was a lawsuit in England where a patient died of breast cancer waiting to get an appointment with an oncologist. That is why Florida sees an influx of Canadians every winter; they save all of the routine healthcare workups for once a year, go to Florida, and get their healthcare taken care of.

Universal healthcare is not free. We will pay for it with increased taxes and pay for it DEARLY.


Terra Nova is located in Canada....
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Evoluz Inc. hiring transcriptionist in Canada
Evoluz Inc. is a Toronto (Canada) based transcription company and they have been hiring currently.  My friend currently works for them from home and she is quite happy. They also provide interview and business transcription.
it may be located in Canada. See web link inside. SM
again, I'm not sure if this is the correct one you are looking for. I know nothing about this company however.

http://www.transrx.ca/
It's a good thing we don't live in Canada then
as my hubby was 64 when he had his 2 heart attacks and CABG last fall. He was lucky to have survived it as it was! 
I think these guys are based on Ontario, Canada. nm
nm
Unions in Canada, MTs make $23 hour plus Yep
I communicate with an MT in Canada and that is what she relayed.
Why not email ask lowest to highest rate sm
say prior to testing and interview as it will save both sides time. Also, ask, if there is a deposit on their supplied computer. Spheres was $500 returned in SIX MONTHS another was $300. I will not even consider this crap of 7,8,9 etc even down to 4 and 5. Don't waste my time, I worked hard to learn and stay current. When these rates are turned down, they will come up 10/line minimum.

Transolutions do not pay for spaces.
In a recent job search, they were the lowest offer.

My cardiology account is actually my lowest paying.
nm
Just curious -- did getting paid from Canada mess up your taxes in any way? sm

I have a friend in Toronto, and we were talking about me trying to do some work for them (they pay 18 cents per line!) but wasn't sure how complicated it would be taxwise.


Thanks. 


Think the lowest I've seen is 600 lpd (maybe 500?) with Phoenix MedCom in 24 hours, but they..
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Not the lowest! Was offered 2cpl back in April.

nm


 


Always email first, ask lowest to highest rate offered.
I bet they offer prob. 7 cents if that.
QUERY - What is the lowest cents-per-line or hourly

I have been looking for an MT Employee job for a couple of months and I have noticed that more and more job opportunities are asking for Independent Contractors rather than Employees.  Out of the hundreds of MTSOs out there, I could only count less than 2 dozen MTSOs who offer employee status. 


Between off-shoring to India and VR, it has almost become impossible for a single MT to make enough to pay the mortgage, etc.  Medical Transcription is becoming a secondary employment in two-worker households.  If some of the MTSOs who hire ICs would admit that they are actually hiring employees and treat them as such, MTs might have a better chance of getting paid what they are worth.  With less than 2 dozen MTSOs offering employee status, they can pretty much set their wages and we are stuck with it if we want any benefits at all.  They are on the verge of almost a type of price-fixing or monopoly.  We need more employers to create more competition for the well-trained MTs looking for work. 


There is an ad for employment as an INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR – Editor at $10.00 per hour.  After the Editor pays taxes and Medicare, etc (which can be 20 to 30%), they are actually working for less than minimum wage. 


I am interested in knowing if anyone would take a position for this wage and also if you think this is actually an Independent Contractor or really an employee. 


Below are the IRS guidelines for IC versus employee. 


I think if the IRS audits this company, the MT will be stuck dealing with the IRS for years to get their money back. 


WHAT DO YOU THINK?   Is this IC Editor job really IC or employee? 


Thanks. 


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In determining whether the person providing service is an employee or an independent contractor, all information that provides evidence of the degree of control and independence must be considered.


Facts that provide evidence of the degree of control and independence fall into three categories:


1.    Behavioral: Does the company control or have the right to control what the worker does and how the worker does his or her job?


2.    Financial: Are the business aspects of the worker’s job controlled by the payer? (these include things like how worker is paid, whether expenses are reimbursed, who provides tools/supplies, etc.)


3.    Type of Relationship: Are there written contracts or employee type benefits (i.e. pension plan, insurance, vacation pay, etc.)? Will the relationship continue and is the work performed a key aspect of the business?


 


Type of relationship refers to facts that show how the worker and business perceive their relationship to each other.


The factors, for the type of relationship between two parties, generally fall into the categories of:


·   Written contracts


·   Employee benefits


·   Permanency of the relationship


·   Services provided as key activity of the business


Written Contracts


Although a contract may state that the worker is an employee or an independent contractor, this is not sufficient to determine the worker’s status.  The IRS is not required to follow a contract stating that the worker is an independent contractor, responsible for paying his or her own self employment tax.  How the parties work together determines whether the worker is an employee or an independent contractor.


Employee Benefits


Employee benefits include things like insurance, pension plans, paid vacation, sick days, and disability insurance.  Businesses generally do not grant these benefits to independent contractors.  However, the lack of these types of benefits does not necessarily mean the worker is an independent contractor.


Permanency of the Relationship


If you hire a worker with the expectation that the relationship will continue indefinitely, rather than for a specific project or period, this is generally considered evidence that the intent was to create an employer-employee relationship.


Services Provided as Key Activity of the Business


If a worker provides services that are a key aspect of the business, it is more likely that the business will have the right to direct and control his or her activities.  This would indicate an employer-employee relationship.


 



 


I recently emailed asking for lowest to highest line rate sm
it was toooo low 7.5
I routinely email lowest-to-highest rate offered sm
and did in April. Rate only 8 cents, to low for me.
Spheris Canada...Applied on line per instructions but problems with template...

After completing page 1 it flips to page 2 and asks you for to choose a State...obviously I'm in Canada (for which page 1 had that option).  I am hoping this did not screw up my application. 


I am very experienced so I am sure they would contact me...Checked out their web site and there is only a general inq # to call. 


Is anyone working with the Canada (Ontario) Division...is it all through US head office....any insight ?


we CAN get a union
It takes hard work and yes, they will launch an all-out war against us *malcontents who probably are louse MTs anyway* but it has been done before against greater odds and CAN BE DONE AGAIN. It just takes a few people of like minds and determination.
Union for MTs
MTs may join the National Writers Union. This union could help us if more MTs would join. It is a good deal for ICs because one can get health insurance through it. http://www.nwu.org/

MT Union
MTs may join the National Writers Union http://www.nwu.org/nwu/.  I am a member and have spoken to them about MT.  They say they would very much like to help us, but very few MTs are members.  Membership has another benefit as well.  I have picked up various typing/editing jobs unrelated to MT from time to time.  They also offer medical benefits. 
union
I would support it.
i am in a union..sm
our union ratifies our contract every 3 yrs.
Union
Is there a court reporter's union? I think we might fit better there. One thing is obvious. We would need a central site to air our grievances and organize. I'm not sure if this forum is willing to allow that. This is something we should have been discussing years ago.
What is the name of your union?
I'm sure we would all like to know.
Where's the union?
I feel the same as anyone on the India thing, as I have QA'd their reports for a certain company and it was horrendously bad.

My question though is... everyone keeps complaining, but I have yet to see anyone form a union, to which I and I am sure many many others would join.

Where's the action behind the anger and the talk?
Union

I worked in a hospital where the transcriptionists were unionized, for some reason we were part of the United Steel Workers union (don't aske me what that has to do with healthcare).  It included all non-clinical employees of the hospital. 


I am in a union...sm
At a local hospital. Our Union ratifies our contract every 3 years. In fact, it renews again this month.
union
JustMe. Because this is an anonymous board, many of us MTs don't know if we are chatting with MTSO sup or managers.

If you can get ONE union rep with a legitimate web page, I think we'd all being willing to go their and sign up with a disposable email address.

At least, that is a start to us coming togeter. We can have state leaders and go from their with one union rep.

I look forward to hearing from you.
I'm in a union...sm
And we have the same problem of losing our positions to outsourcing--maybe not as quickly, but we are the last hospital in my state who have in-house remote employees who work at home. We slipped through last year, but it's a matter of time before they cut us.
Union

If there was a way to do it, I would.  I am not a super hard nosed union type, but I know what the teacher's union here in our town has done for our teachers.  Not only that, but I am also one of those who are disabled and need to work from home.  If a union would protect that option as well as help promote MT as a solid work at home solution to many who can do this type of work from home instead of drawing disability, well, I am all for that.


Anne


RE: Union
I've seen the good and the bad a union can do. If we were to unionize, do you not think that we would be risking putting ourselves out of jobs? Some MTSOs cannot afford to pay 10 cpl. I know that most can, Medquist and the other biggies. But what about the smaller ones that don't have a ton of accounts? Some of us have jobs with them and are quite happy because while we're not making 10 cpl, we do have plenty of work, our boss is not over hiring and we are treated decently. If you start to force the companies to pay more, we're going to be out of work and back to either working in-house or somewhere else out of our field of expertise. I've also seen the unions 'fight' for the worker, meaning .25 cents more a pay period, while at the same time the insurance premiums per paycheck went up just enough to eat that raise, while giving less coverage. And while I may not be talking about unions for MTs, really it does not matter what industry you're talking about, the unions are fighting for themselves. It'd be great to be paid what we deserve. I personally know an MTSO that could pay more but chooses not to. She'd rather hire MTs at a disgraceful rate and give 1/4 cent raises when she remembers. Those MTSOs do need to stop screwing with us. In the same vein though, MTSOs like that don't keep quality MTs. They lose them to companies that are fair, or at least try to be. I really don't see anything changing for us. We're not really considered at all in the grand scheme of things except when the reports are late or wrong. Merry Christmas.
Not a union fan.

You have an interesting viewpoint, Union Now.  At first I skimmed your post because I am not interested in a union and I tend to avoid the posts that proclaim that's what we need to do.  Then I went and re-read it and my second reaction (first being boredom and amusement at a couple of typos) was could you be any more condescending? 


I suppose you would consider me one of the GRATEFUL faction.   I am grateful that I have steady income and it's an income that can be as big or as little as I choose to make it.  Maybe that makes me naive in your eyes.  I lost a very well paying job of 4 1/2 years duration last year with about 2 months' notice.   My then-employer was a man who I had known for 30 years.  I had watched his kids for him when they were little.  This man used the phrase I'm throwing you all under rthe bus when he informed us that he was selling the agency and we may or may not be hired by the new administration.   I was at the mercy of a 57-year-old man having a mid-life crisis.  Now I make a decent wage that allows me to pay my mortgage and my bills and I have a very nice roof over my head.  And I know I can always find a job somewhere doing this kind of work.


My rambling, probably boring point is that I am indeed grateful to have employment and to have a steady income.   Is Voice Recognition the way of the future?  Very probably.  Is it going to put us out of work?  I don't think so.  Not unless they make those programs a whole lot better and not unless they magically make doctors and PAs slow down and enunciate.   We all know THAT ain't gonna happen.  


Why does it seem that so many people are entrenched in only one way of doing things?  Why does it seem that the refrain that I hear a lot is but this is the way we've always done it?  Just because that's the way something has always been done doesn't mean that it's the best way or the only way.


Personally, I think we sell ourselves short if we stay entrenched in the past and refuse to learn new technology and new technique.  We only end up hurting ourselves that way.  I don't think a union will do anything except force even more off shoring even faster.  You think hospitals are going to go union and pay higher union wages and benefits when they have options in India and the Phillipines?  Why do you think so much other American manufacturing and industry has gone overseas?   Unions, my friend.  Unions.   They served their part in the past.  They served a very good part in the past.  I firmly believe their time has come and gone, though.  The fact that information can be sent around the world in nanoseconds completely changes the game.


All a union would accomplish (in my admittedly limited viewpoint) is to ensure that bad MT's stay employed and good MT's don't get as far as they could on their own.  In my mind unions tend to pander to the lowest common denominator.   If you're good at what you do, I don't think you'll have any problems. 


So yes, for those of you who have gotten this far and whose eyes haven't crossed yet, I am grateful to have a job.  I actually have 2 jobs and I'm grateful for them both.  I know I can pay my mortgage and keep the lights on and buy cat food.  That last part is important - the little varmints outnumber me.  I don't plan on rocking any of my financial boats in the near future with the global economy tanking like it is.  If we knock over our boat, there are 100 other people here in the US and abroad who are happy to take over from us.


Union
Don't be so sure. As for Detroit, they were making more money than the collective bunch of us would see in 100 lifetimes. It was not the unions, but the big shots who controlled the $$$$. If it wasn't for unions, my dear, we would be working 12 hours a day 7 days a week with no BENEFITS. You forget what our forefathers fought for, but there are many of us who do not. I say that those of us who are interested, when we find a representative union, such as SEIU, should all agree to meet in D.C. or better yet where ever our headquarters is now.

We will at least give it a try. Do we really have anything else to lose? Count me in.
union
We are not talking the same sort of things that happened with the steel mills, etc., we are talking about being represented and treated fairly. Unless we do something, we won't be able to keep typing for the Q as the electric bill might not get paid, no electric, no type. There is not a one of us who are thinking in terms of driving cadillacs and going to Hawaii 3 or 4 times a year;no it is to make a decent wage, keep the decent wage, and not be subject to random wage cuts at the mere discretion of the company. Representation. Maybe there are some bad things along with the good, but if we keep going the way we are, well then.....you fill in the blanks. I was a union steward for 22 years. It is not easy to fight for what is right. It is not easy to go against those who are paying the meager wages, but sometimes the time comes to pull up the bootstraps and take care of us.
union
Ok, I will come back on this board in 1 year from now and I want to hear what you have to say then, after you have had your fill of the changes, the crap, the lousy money, etc. NObody is happy with the Q as it is. If you are, then there is something wrong with you. Oh, you are probably one who would be against unionizing for representation, bitch and moan about it, but accept whatever contract the members accepted.
And those of us who do not want a union?

If this movement to start an MT union goes forward and actually happens, then what happens to those of us who have seen the negative side of unions and decline to participate?  Are we then treated like scabs, bullied and harrassed, unable to find work because we decide to not joint a club that takes our money and gives nothing in return?  Are we going to be ostracized?  What happens when this union organizes and immediately goes on strike because X company will not pay them X per line, plus hourly plus benefits? 


Like someone posted below, what happens to those of us who are ICs?  I am not able to work a set shift for various personal reasons, and so where would that leave me?  I have to have IC status in order to work. 


Also, what happens when all the US based companies decide to take ALL their business overseas because of the unionization of their workforce? 


I agree there needs to be a standard for the industry other than the AHDI or whatever they are calling themselves these days, but a union is only going to benefit a few.  What I have personally experienced with a union is that it drives the cost of operation for a company through the roof, and companies are in business to make money, not support people.  Also, the good, hard workers (for the most part) carry a lazy, inefficient work pool who refuse to do hard jobs because they are union and you can't fire a union worker. 


Basically, unions do not work for the honest folks who work their tails off to make a living.  They do work for the ones who think they deserve ____(fill in whatever you would like) because they are special because they belong to a union. 


Just saying my piece, and thank you for letting me vent.