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Ctrl+I counts headers and footers, but we don't get paid for that sm

Posted By: Happy New TTer on 2008-02-09
In Reply to: So if you transcribe 100 lines, you dont get paid for - 100 lines? How is this right? nm

and we don't type it in, in any case. The headers and footers usually have text that is a lighter color and these are embedded headers and footers. We get paid for the regular color text. You aren't being cheated in the least. Consider, I worked for a company where they charged the MT a 65 character line for every report, although the headers and footers compromised a whopping 30 to 40 characters. On a short report, you paid the company for the privilege of transcribing it!! Embedded headers are not things we transcribe, but ARE paid for what we DO type.

This 1.236 accounts for the headers and footers, on ICD1. Different accounts have different headers or lack thereof and so it varies.


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Yes, it counts spaces. It does not count headers/footers. sm
Chartscript counts the demographics i.e. headers/footers. That may be where your difference is. ES used to count them, but no more. It is about 15% less lines now that they do not count them.

Spaces are counted.
headers and footers are paid too. nm
nm
Do you really get paid for headers and footers with
About how many headers and footers are per report?
Should you get paid for headers and footers.

I was called in to test for a company who do not pay for headers or foots and starting pay is 7 cpl.  They do not pay for bolding, underlining, nothing.  Is this still a good deal?  Should I waste my time testing?


 


thanks.


Probably not getting paid for headers, footers, or spaces. Do you get
s
So you don't get paid for headers/footers... just a straight 65 character line
How about spaces?

If you don't get paid for H/F, are you given a higher line rate?
Hired by Cymed and told they did not pay for spaces, but paid for headers and footers. Just did a

check on the line count, and not only do they not pay for headers and footers, they also pay for 2 lines less than I typed.


If you have horrible platform, do not get paid for headers, footers, template data, etc.,
even though it might take 3 or 4 minutes or longer to edit that stuff, you are going to take a big pay cut.  This program was designed by idiots.
TT sent out email saying CTRL i function is 7-12% higher than paid-for line counts,

so you would need to deduct 7-12% off function of CTRL I.


Per TT email regarding this subject, the headers and footers average between 7-12% of a document . . .   Conversely, if you are transcribing a two to three line report/addendum, the header and footer may be as much as 50% or greater.


So, it is true that if we transcribe short reports, we are given the pleasure of transcribing almost FREE for TT !!!


This is about as clear as we MT's can get from TT regarding this line counting issue.


Headers and footers
Have you spoken with your manager about this? Are you not getting the demographic info from the hospital?
YES they pay headers and footers nm
nm
Headers and Footers
This really hits my hot button and I think a lot of companies have found this as a big time way to rip off the MTs. I wonder how many are charging the client for this data which most times does not load in and even if it does you are still verifing that it is correct, doing carbon copies, etc. All clerical functions the MT is not being paid for. I just left a company to go to a company where we get headers, but no spaces. Even with no spaces, my production in 4 weeks is up almost 50% so I have no doubt it makes a significant difference. To actually get back to your question, the 30% would depend on the size of the document. It should not be a % but a flat line rate, such as 8 lines per document or whatever. 30% of a 3 100 line document would be 30 lines and no way would that be fair for headers/footers.

Headers and Footers
I nearly had a panic attack when my paycheck had $450.00 deducted from it. They kind of mentioned it in passing when I was hired there was a small deduction for information we did not type that went into the header and footer, but had no idea it would be 30% off my total line count.
Not about headers/footers
This goes above and beyond the headers/footer. Needless to say, they are safe with having to pay out a bonus. Not very many good standing employees are left from what I understand. Interesting, you sound exactly like a manager employed by them.
24% OFF FOR HEADERS/FOOTERS

167.28/683 X 100 = 24%


683 - my count (Tools/Word count/Lines)


admin.ichart count:  515.72


 -167.28 difference


do they pay for headers and footers for ER?

Headers/footers
They don't pay for them but you don't have to type them. Line counting appears to be what you would expect and I think is accurate.
No headers/footers
Since you don't actually type the header/footer, makes sense you don't get paid for them. If you have to look up an ID or something it really only takes a few seconds, so that's not a problem. I've been with them over a year. My production went up. It was a good move for me. They are very honest with their MTs and will address any concerns you may have. Of note, QA and Tech support are really good. Pay is on time, every time. Good incentives.
Headers/Footers
I agree with you about the headers and footers. Did a recent count and found it to be about 13%. That is excessively high when losing time looking up demos because they are too lazy to input the info. This header/foot thing has gotten worse. I believe I had previously figured 11%. It is morally wrong to take out a percentage. A true character count would count the whole amount and take out for whatever is pre-printed on the page. This is especially horrible when doing 30, 40 or 50 small jobs, don't you think?
Headers and footers
None anymore probably, but that's not the point. When you work for companies that count lines at the remote IC site, go ahead and subtract those lines from your total at Control I. Does 13% difference seem fair to you? Don't you think a fairer thing would be an actual count of characters subtracted?
If they don't pay for headers/footers, it's
easy enough to highlight & delete the block before running the count... It's not rocket science.
they said they pay headers and footers at Transcend??
You better double check that.
headers footers lines
There are many different platforms that cheat you out of lines. If you saw what actually printed at the facility you would see a completely different page. The headers and footers you don't see on your page, magically appear - the lines that were single space are now double space and formatted I am sure to give the company the most $$$$. WHere in the world do you work at 10 cpl? Thats really good!
Most companies don't pay headers & footers
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Well what companies do pay for headers & footers?

Keystrokes headers and footers
Does Keystrokes pay for headers and footers?
Not all CyMed accounts pay for headers and footers.

The account I'm on does not and also you get paid 2.3 lines less than the report line count. 


What companies pay for spaces, headers and footers?

I've been an acute care Transcriptionist for 27 years now, pushing age 50, and 
"burned out" I suppose.  Anyway, looking to maybe do some easy multispecialty clinic work or pediatric clinic with little or no ESL, making at least 9 cpl with benefits, with 12-24 hour frame to finish a predetermined amount of lines.


Are there any jobs out there that would offer me this? 


I don't think headers or footers count (you don't have to type them)
nm
You cant go by that alone- some dont count headers and footers, etc.
You cant always go by Word count alone.
Person below posted that she gets spaces and headers/footers.
NM
Does Diskriter pay for headers and footers, as well as spaces and returns? OR - sm

do they pay for just spaces and returns??


Thanks


Not a discrepancy, just a lag time - they don't count headers or footers.
nm
Could that have been a result of not paying for demos, headers, footers? NM
x
I'll take a guess and say TransTech as they tell you up front you don't get headers/footers an
b
Is this a live count of lines paid for or same as CTRL I that we do not get paid for ?? nm
m
If you read in their FAQ section, fixed headers and footers are NOT counted as well as bolding, un-
s
Go to their website. They don't pay for headers, footers, special chars. and they're Indian
s
From my experience, it is all in how the company sets it up to count i.e. footers, headers, spaces
etc.. I work on another platform but I noticed the same thing when I worked for a company and it would me 12 hours to get 1000 lines, and at the time, I had nothing to compare it to. Then, I thought..this is just wrong. Working 12 hours to make $80 is ridiculous so I quite. I went to work for another company...same platform... and routinely do 1500 to 2000 lines a day and I can tell the difference. You know when you do a whole page report and all you end up with is at the max 40 lines.. something is wrong. I'd say keep the best paying and dump the rest. They are obviously shorting you somewhere.
If you're with someone that doesn't count the demographic info or headers or footers, line cou
s
We could check our line counts up-to-the-minute with CTRL I inhouse n/m
b
Me too.. the outsourced company was paid for and paid me for headers, but OSI does/did not.
x
Do you think all the headers and footers aren't getting counted? Lots of places aren't giving
s
Ctrl i in EXText for us MT's with TT gives a higher line count, because we do not get paid
for everything that that function shows.  I-chart is as close to the exact amount of lines we get paid for than anything that we have.  Ctrl i was blocked from us, but lately opened up for us to use; however, it is not what we get paid for.  Hope this helps you.
Watch your paycheck go down. Transcend does not pay the same line counts that MDI-MD paid.
nm
If Ichart deducts 8% from ExText line counts, you are actually not getting paid for spaces

It is the equivalent of a 70.2 character line with spaces, 65  characters without spaces. 


All compaines count lines different--with spaces, without spaces, headers or no headers, 65 characte
a line, 75 characters, etc. I would ask each of them how they count their lines. Sometimes the way lines are counted does not make a company worth working for.
sometimes when I do Ctrl Ctrl to put
in a new expansion nothing happens, but my existing expansions still work. Then when I get out of Extext and then back in, it works again with Ctrl Ctrl. It's strange. I thought it was just something with my computer.
Using Ctrl-I, you can get the count
for previous days by changing your PC calendar date to whichever day you want the counts for. To do this, at the lower right corner of your PC (called the system tray), right click on the time displayed. Click Adjust Date/Time and change it to the date you wish to see counts for. Go back to EXText and run your counts using Ctrl-I. Remember to change your date back to the current date.
On some O accounts you do have Ctrl I option
?
I work for TT and just tried to uset the Ctrl I sm
but got the message that I didn't have the right to view session statistics.  It is a shame, because it would be nice to be able to check things like that while you're working.