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How is that going to help me? I wasn't asking for a definition of IC vs Employee

Posted By: Chapelbound on 2009-05-07
In Reply to: Employee VS IC definition - darlene

Just want to find a new job.


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Employee VS IC definition
You need to read up on IC  VS employee status deinitions according to IRS and labor department.  Google the term and read up a bit.  Here is a page, click the various titles and they open up
That wasn't my experience there. I wasn't on that kind of all-inclusive acct, either. nm
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Look up the definition...

Definition of IC
I just experienced something horrible that happened to me this week.  I've been an IC with a small transcription company (prefer not to mention name) for almost 1 year now.  The manager has her moods.  When I started to work this week, I noticed nothing was in my job que to type.  I kept e-mailing her and e-mailing her and she never responded back.  I then tried calling her and she never responded back.  I started to get very frustrated.  I found out from another IC that she had given my work to another IC without even confronting me.  I know that an IC is different than a permanent employee, but how on earth could anybody treat somebody like that for no reason at all.  Talk about being angry and frustrated!  Luckily, I was able to find work pretty fast, but it really stinks when you are an IC that a company could just let you go for no reason at all and especially totally ignoring your e-mails and phone calls.  Has anybody experienced what I just went through?
Definition of IC
The HR manager wants me to call her on Monday in regards to explain to me what the exact term of 1099/IC means. I did e-mail the staff that I was upset that I did not have any work in the cue for 9 straight days. They told me that's the definition of being an independent contractor. You would think they would have at least told me that TOA account went away. They did not even put me on another account. I would be sitting here for months without anything to do unless I did not catch looking on Global Documents and realizing that all of the TOA doctors were gone on the list. How would you handle that if you were an MT? I know you were QA2, but imagine being in my situation.
I've got your definition
IC means they don't promise you a thing with regard to volume of work, but expect you to work as if you were an employee...

IC used to mean Independent Contractor - you contract with a service or doctor/hospital to provide certain services. They define the job needed to be done, but *you* set your price.

To be fair, a qualified MT still has the ability to negotiate rate, etc., and many MTSO's are flexible and fair. Too many however, (MQ) are so totally corporatized they are quickly moving to force the former independent into a employee status - and in the process removing *much* if not all of the production pay incentives that used to make this work (more)bearable.

Watch the new trend: Pay newbies nothing and QAers very little and end up with a finished product that nets a bigger profit. Hey, if we stand for it, we deserve to be exploited.
true definition
what is the true definition of a wannabe? 
Definition of 10-key skills
Accounting courses teach 10-key skills by touch the same way typing courses teach keyboarding by touch. When you are entering numbers, it is much, much, much easier and faster to use the keypad to the right instead of the numbers on the top row of the keyboard. This is by touch, not by hunting and pecking the numbers to the right of the keyboard.
What's your definition of life?

It depends on what your definition of a life is.  I don't have kids, so having a weekend free is not important to me.  I don't believe in organized religion (but have great faith in God) so going to church isn't an issue.  I love having days off during the week so I can do appointments, etc., easier without intruding on my workday.  I am a night owl, so the shift I work for my MTSO which is 5 pm to 1:30 am is perfect for me.  I love my schedule.


Saturdays and Sundays are the busiest days for work, especially if you're in acute care, so it makes sense to me that's when they want the most coverage.


I have lots of work in a failing economy, so I never complain about it.


Actually it's the exact definition of it.
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Depends on your definition of holiday pay - sm
Several companies pay 1.5 times base if you work the holidays they recognize. If the holiday falls on your regularly scheduled day, you either have to work it or use PTO hours (or sometimes you are able flex that time and work it later) to be off on the holiday.
Do you know the definition of RUMOR? Sheesh!
You must be a riot at the laundromat! Yackety Yack!
Definition of syntax inside....

syntax

One entry found for syntax.




Main Entry: syn·tax
Pronunciation: 'sin-taks
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French or Late Latin; Middle French sintaxe, from Late Latin syntaxis, from Greek, from syntassein to arrange together, from syn- + tassein to arrange
1 a : the way in which linguistic elements (as words) are put together to form constituents (as phrases or clauses) b : the part of grammar dealing with this
2 : a connected or orderly system : harmonious arrangement of parts or elements <the syntax of classical architecture>

definition of a cherry picker
Cherry picking is when you get routed the easiest docs to transcribe from a particular account or when the gals in the office get routed the easier docs and leave the crap for the rest of us to do. I do every single doctor that comes to me on my account and do not pass it on to my coworkers. If I were doing that you better believe I would be hearing it from my coworkers as some of us talk between one another!!! You do not know what you are talking about and I am getting the impression that you are either a newbie or extremely immature. Somehow you seem to think that I owe you good accounts. Go out and find them, they are out there!!! Sounds like you are too afraid to expect more and lack the assertiveness necessary.... All careers have people who make the low end, middle end, and high end pay wise and job wise. I choose, here I use the word again choose to be one of the ones on the top end of the pay scale. It works the same way with for instance my husband's job. He chose to move his way up the ladder while other guys stayed down. What, is he supposed to stay down because they choose to not get ahead??? This is all so infantile... I gotta get back to work or maybe my coworkers will start to feel I am not pulling my weight!! Gee wiz....
Depends on your definition of change
No where on Nuance site could I find where it said they were moving everything to the US.  Heard from Indian company the other day who was trying to recruit that Focus is hiring like crazy and are even signing up companies over there to subcontract their work to. Kinda interesting since they profess that they own all their own labor.
Definition of an Independent Contractor
Defining the Independent Contractor

No consistent, uniform definition distinguishes an employee from an independent contractor. Some statutes contain their own definitions. The U.S. Supreme Court has held that when a statute contains the term employee but fails to define it adequately, there is a presumption that traditional agency-law criteria for identifying master-servant relationships apply (National Mutual Insurance Co. v. Darden, 503 U.S. 318, 112 S. Ct. 1344, 111 L. Ed. 2d 581 [1992]).

One comprehensive test that takes into account agency-law criteria and numerous other factors courts have created to define independent contractor status was developed by the Internal Revenue Service. Known collectively as the twenty-factor test, the enumerated criteria generally fall within three categories: control (whether the employer or the worker has control over the work performed), organization (whether the worker is integrated into the business), and economic realities (whether the worker directly benefits from his or her labor). The twenty factors serve only as a guideline. Each factor's degree of importance varies depending on the occupation and the facts involved in a particular case. Twenty-factor test [nl] 1.

A worker who is required to comply with instructions about when, where, and how he or she must work is usually an employee.

2.

If an employer trains a worker — requires an experienced employee to work with the worker, educates the worker through correspondence, requires the worker to attend meetings, or uses other methods — this normally indicates that the worker is an employee.

3.

If a worker's services are integrated into business operations, this tends to show that the worker is subject to direction and control and is thus an employee. This is the case particularly when a business's success or continuation depends to a large extent on the performance of certain services.

4.

If a worker's services must be rendered personally, there is a presumption that the employer is interested in the methods by which the services are accomplished as well as in the result, making the worker an employee.

5.

If an employer hires, supervises, and pays assistants for a worker, this indicates control over the worker on the job, making the worker an employee.

6.

A continuing relationship between a worker and an employer, even at irregular intervals, tends to show an employer-employee relationship.

7.

An employer who sets specific hours of work for a worker exhibits control over the worker, indicating that the worker is an employee.

8.

If a worker is working substantially full-time for an employer, the worker is presumably not free to do work for other employers and is therefore an employee.

9.

Work performed on an employer's premises suggests the employer's control over a worker, making the worker an employee. This is especially true when work could be done elsewhere. However, the mere fact that work is done off the employer's premises does not necessarily make the worker an independent contractor.

10.

If a worker is required to perform services in an order or sequence set by an employer, the employer has control over the worker that demonstrates an employer-employee relationship.

11.

A worker who is required to submit regular oral or written reports to an employer is likely an employee.

12.

Payment by the hour, week, or month tends to indicate that a worker is an employee; payment made by the job or on a straight commission points to an independent contractor.

13.

A worker is ordinarily an employee if an employer pays for the worker's business or travel expenses.

14.

An employer who furnishes a worker with significant tools, materials, or other equipment tends to show that the worker is an employee.

15.

A worker who significantly invests in facilities used to perform services and not typically maintained by employees (such as office space) is generally an independent contractor.

16.

A worker who can realize a profit or loss resulting from her or his services is generally an independent contractor.

17.

A worker who performs for more than one firm at a time is generally an independent contractor.

18.

If a worker makes his or her services available to the general public on a regular and consistent basis, that worker is generally an independent contractor.

19.

An employer's right to discharge a worker tends to show that the worker is an employee. An employee must obey an employer's instructions in order to stay employed; an independent contractor can be fired only if the work result fails to meet the agreed-upon specifications.

20.

If a worker has the right to terminate her or his relationship with an employer at any time without incurring liability, such as breach of contract, that worker is likely an employee.

See: Employment Law; Labor Law; Master and Servant.
Just a quick definition for you anon for now...


SATIRE


1.the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc.
2. a literary composition, in verse or prose, in which human folly and vice are held up to scorn, derision, or ridicule.
3. a literary genre comprising such compositions.

obviously my post wasn't trying to trick anyone into believing I was a TT CEO, I didn't even give his name, and if anybody is slow enough to think that I am the CEO for a minute, please email me, I have a bridge to sale you.

This whole thread is about the pay decreases and why they are happending...satire, my friend, satire. I need to buy you one of those word-a-day calendars.

What is the definition of "Very nice?" $25, $50, $100, $1000?
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Everyone has a different definition of good money. Mine is 50K or more.
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definition of decent: Acceptable standards
making $50,000 a year as an MT is beyond decent, it is really great, but realistically a decent living would be less, which is what the poster asked, as the definition of decent is to have acceptable standards.
Axolotl employees----have questions about line definition, etc. sm

How does Axolotl define a line?  Do they pay for spaces, headers, footers, & expansions?  Are you docked for blanks or sending things to QA?  If so, how much.


Thanks for the info.


Have a fabulous 4th!


Statuatory employee versus regular employee....
Can someone tell me the difference between a statuatory employee versus a regular employee?  My company offeres IC or SE status....I am confused about whether switching over the SE would benefit me more than IC status that I have been for some time with them?  What are the benefits and disadvantages of being an SE versus IC?  Thanks for all of your help!
They hire both IC and employee. I am an employee (see message)
and I have full benefits. I am very happy that I came to work here. I came as a statutory employee from a large company. Everyone at MDI has been great to me.
Depends on if you are employee or statutory employee (sm)
Employee, 8th and 23rd of month
Stat. Employee, 15th and 30th month
Diskriter - Anyone go from their employee to hospital employee with them?
Thinking about giving up on being their employee and applying for a hospital employee position through them, they have one in PA right now that looks good.  How is it for scheduling?  Do you keep your line rate or get whatever the hospital pays? Who manages those accounts, is it the same PM and DR that are on the other ones?  I have DR and feel like she doesn't have a clue what she is doing and it is so annoying, but I just don't have the guts to let the company know she needs to step it up a notch because the transcriptionists are not happy under her.  Are QA the same people or through the hospital.  They have 1 QA that is constantly asking us questions on doctors and format, things we should be asking that QA person.  Annoying that new people move up to QA but people who've been there 2 or 3 years get treated like dirt and jumped account to account.
Only employee and statutory employee..no IC
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Wasn't right for me at all. nm
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it wasn't a can you help out, it was I need everyone
to work extra. 
wasn't for me
pay was directly tied to quality and number of blanks you left.
Are your sure her name wasn't
I even talked with the owner over the discrepancies of my checks.  He gave me his word that the problem would be fixed --- it never was.  Your right, they should be sued, but who has the time and/or money to do such?  That's why they're still around.  One other thing -- I can't believe that a company like this is allowed to advertise on this website.  We have to follow rules as an MT when we chat.  Why shouldn't companies have the same stipulation.  With all the negativity with this company (and I can back it up with phone records, paystubs, etc), they should be banned from advertising here, or anywhere else!
No, she wasn't.

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Boy, it sure wasn't that way when I was there...sm

We were always behind, it seemed, and always asked to type more, more, more.  I'm not defending OSi, but this was in later part of 2006.  Wonder what has changed?  I can't believe, if this is the MK account, that they would send charts overseas.  They were so !#$# picky (MK) that I got put on probation for some really, really tiny errors.  Took me for a whirl and hurt my feelings, big time.


I had to quit just from mere principle.  Harsh, very harsh!  I can't imagine, from the quality I understand comes from India, that they would get away with making any errors whatsoever.  Neither here nor there now, I'm just amazed at how fast things changed.


thanks - I wasn't using the right box
sounds like mixed reviews. Guess you never know til you try it yourself.
It wasn't MTs that were let go, it was QA, as that

is now going to India.  I wonder how many accounts that CBAY will have this time next year. 


A company that I used to work for offshored work to India.  First it was just overflow because they couldn't stay in TAT, but then company saw how much they could save and sent more work to India.  The problem is they weren't QAing the work and was of such poor quality that the lost the account, which ultimately cost them their business. 


 


 


**wasn't
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It wasn't all THAT bad for me

I will admit when I first started with Amphion, I HATED it! However, I was there for 4 months and only left because I was offered better pay somewhere else, also I was really running out of work bad on my primary account, I assume from overhiring. 


It is true about the mandatory OT, but I liked the money, so I did do some.  When I didn't do the OT, I was not reprimanded.  I attempted to quite because of the QA person on my accounts was really condescending and I just couldn't take it anymore.  I was talked into staying by the supervisor I had and I was even offered (later) a QA position there, but didn't take it.  My supervisor there was fantastic and wonderful.  I know they have other supervisors, but I couldn't tell you how they are/were. 


I fell upon hardtimes close to Christmas and was having to move back to my mother's to take care of her house, my husband lost his job, and after explaining my situation to my supervisor, they sent me a 300.00 dollar check to help me with getting the lights turned on at my mom's house.  I was informed I did not have to pay that back, but under the condition that I help someone else in need.  I did feel appreciated at Amphion, but as I stated, I needed higher pay and I needed affordable insurance.  With my account running so low with work, I just couldn't do those things, and it really made me sad that I had to leave. 


Yes, they are very picky about quality and really some of it was so minute that it was ridiculous.  However, if something ever happened with the company I am at now, I would go back.  Under the condition I was with the same supervisor. 


Anyway, I wish you the very best of luck with finding the company of your dreams.  I am now with Axolotl and like it very, very much.  Of course, there are a few bumps just about anywhere you go, but I enjoy my job. 


Good luck and take care


Wasn't here for that
so I couldn't say. I generally only pop in to research a company I may be considering because I know this is where to go to hear all the actual negatives and then some about a company which is why I felt compelled to say that my experience has not been the same as the other people. But whatever. I'll just take my positivity elsewhere since it apparently is unacceptable on this board. Oh, and I didn't take Carlotta's email that way. Then again, I'm not the one on here complaining.
No that wasn't me

MT Chat?  How do I find that?  Thanks


Are you saying your pay wasn't cut?
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Yes, it wasn't... Not yet, anyway.
So am I waiting for the other shoe to drop? That's why I said I'm feeling MORE paranoid, not less.



Thanks! At least I know I wasn't seeing
things (or not seeing them as the case may be). :)
Hey, that wasn't me!
Someone else is using the name fed up but I am not that person.
I wasn't
arguing!? I was just stating my opinion... or is that not allowed anymore?

Per Moderator - ALL OPINIONS ARE WELCOME ON THIS BOARD!
I wasn't happy, but to each his own. nm
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eTransPlus-- I wasn't going to say anything else but.....

the other poster hit the nail on the head about the insulting gifts sent for transcription week, and don't get me wrong, I don't expect anything as far as "gifts" from my employer, because they are not obligated to it, but give me a break,  "I'm still trying to figure out what my gift is, either a mini mouse pad, the size of a coaster, or is it a coaster."  They really showed me how much they thought of me when I received that gift.


This post wasn't from CW either. This was from me.

Just as you have never understood why people would come here and talk about their problems with Transcend, I simply cannot understand why the posts bother you SO much.  You like working there, we get it. Others don't.  Why is your voice any more important than ours?  How fair is it that you think you can stop every single post where people have had problems just because YOU don't want to hear them?  Obviously from the outworking of events yesterday, what I said on the Forum was true.  You guys wanted details all along, so you got them.  None of it was refuted by the company, instead it simply "vanished." When I had said that my emails were burning up with people writing me with words of support and thanks, you should have seen it AFTER they removed the post.  There were just as many people appalled by that as there were the content of my post.  You may think I'm in the minority, but you would be wrong. As wrong as you were about CW all along.


 


It wasn't sarcasm
It was sympathy, but I then again, I guess shouldn't have depended on you to know the difference.
Wasn't happy with them at all . sm
Check the archives.  They're famous for giving you a setup or hire date and then never bothering to get in touch with you again.  It was almost 2 months from being offered the position to actually working.  Maybe that's changed with new HR.  I can't say.  I was given many promises that were never kept.  I know I worked on two accounts that were both horrible.  Slow, boggy platforms.  Very long CTs and MRIs.  If you do one or two specials a day you're lucky.  The worst for me was the hand written log you have to keep ... all day long, with about six rows of information on every patient.  Very time consuming.  Not for me.
Your post wasn't that bad, but . . .
From what I've seen on here, if the moderator gives anyone an inch, someone else is HIGHLY likely to take 10,000 miles. Some people don't need much encouragement to go to the extremes with it, as in the 2 really foul-mouthed posts that got deleted yesterday. Maybe zero-tolerance is the only way they feel they can handle that. IMHO
Thanks! It wasn't deductible at all when I was an IC. sm
But I will never work as an IC again and I could not get an independent policy anyway, having had cancer and ongoing therapy.  A lot of MTs are in this position with either age, a serious disease, such as hypertension, diabetes, etc.  It just isn't that easy to get self-insured anymore.  That's why I don't understand companies who don't offer benefits.  The last figures I saw, benefits were worth about 1.5 cents a line.  Something to figure in when considering great wages.  Thanks for the information.
Sten-Tel wasn't the only one
A company called DW Transcription, hired me for QA and asked me to fill out forms, sign contract, etc. They asked me to start on a particular day and I waited and NOTHING. And so a few days later I called.... I get the feeling the person who hired me disappeared. Someone else contacted me by email and said I could start THAT day and I was just very uneasy about the whole thing. How could they just blow me off? I really wonder about this business.