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Old posts say improper line counting and not paying for spaces were SOME of the probs. nm

Posted By: lub-dub on 2005-10-15
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Not paying for spaces can be okay if the characters per line is shorter.
55 characters without spaces is roughly equivalent to 65 with spaces.
line counts, other probs..

I am new with TT - have only worked about 25 hours so far and am up to  200 lph as of my work tonight...it is always slow in the beginning...I am also losing time because I am adding new shortcuts as I get familar with the dictators pet phrases... but it will pay dividends in the future...I love it so far and see no problems...I think if you are working on dictaphone the drag from the real time slows you down a little and makes it seem like you are working harder...but dictaphone is notorious for that...I have checked their line rates with every counter I know...and they are if anything higher than what the counters I trust show...


 


Some do pay more because of not counting spaces. (nm)
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Something said before about it not counting spaces, but maybe that's
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I've heard not counting spaces takes away approximately
17% of your pay - I seriously doubt headers could make this up
Paying for spaces?
Run from a company that does not pay for spaces. Your thumb gets a workout just like the rest of the fingers. My thumb is worth compensation! lol
Line counting
Just wondering, was this company TransTech. I have recently left them. The management is great, but as far as i was concerned the work was awful, every account they put me on, and I had to really struggle to get my lines in. I asked them to unblock the control I function so that I could see my lines and they won't do it. They more or less said that they count the lines the way they want and we have to use the website to find the correct lines. THIS IS BS!

Just wondering. You don't have to respond if you don't want to, but just curious.
line counting
I work for TT and we had a problem with the ichart which counts our lines but I would just wait a couple of hours or until the next morning to get my count and then mark it.  It was always available in time for the end of the pay period.  Transtech is a great company to work for and yes management is great.  They also let us know whenever there were issues with the system and we knew that we would need to wait.  I've been there long enough now to kind of get a feel for the number of lines I have for what I've typed.  I'm typing on the TransNet platform now.  I was on PowerScribe when I started but like this system much better.  So far, there's been no real problem with availability of work.  Can't complain!   Thumbs 






line counting
It really depends on the length of report.  It usally takesme about 70 reports.  You get a better line count of you get some lengthy normals and that helps.  My account doesn't have a lot long reports.  We have nuc med and occasionally there are normals and you get a decent count then. 
TT Line Counting

You know, sometimes I find these posts comical and sometimes they just really tick me off.  Maybe because I have been doing this nearly a half century, I don't need a line counter to tell me if I'm being paid accurately.  I don't go wasting my time looking to see how many lines I've typed during the day or running my work through another line count program.  I KNOW approximately how many lines I have typed at any given time...I just KNOW and I am seldom off more than a few lines just with my head count.  There is no way I'm going to waste my valuable time worrying if I'm being cheated out of a line here or a line there.  Checking line counts takes time..........so does posting on these MT forums.


Let me say that if my in head count was off, I would know it and I would not work for a company where I  had to constantly worry if I was being cheated.  Maybe there is something to the old saying, it takes a thief to catch a thief. 


As for line counts varying, mine is varying at the moment also.  My primary account often runs out of work and I know exactly WHY it runs out of work although no one has actually told me.  Okay, I have a backup account (or several) and I can either jump on those and make the line count I want or I can sit around whining about not getting my primary account, which by now is a piece of cake for me.  The backup accounts have 50,000 physicians on their list, maybe not quite that many actually, but bunches.  It takes awhile to get familiar with all of them as it does to build my normals and expanders. 


Sometimes I have to laugh when I read these petty comments.  I think to myself, if they would get off this forum and actually WORK, they probably wouldn't have so much whining to do.


As I've said before, those who have nothing better to do than bash TT should just move along and leave the rest of us in our blissful ignorance.  I'm chuckling to myself right now because there are posts on this forum at this moment about 2 companies for whom I have worked.  I don't feel it necessary to post derogatory comments but sometimes I do hope that some of the people who love to beat up on Transtech actually go to work for them and learn what it's like to work for a bad (at least in my opinion) company.  Some people deserve it.


Now I'm off my soap box and going to type where I will actually make some money....yes, for TransTech.  They treat me fairly.  If they didn't, well, I was looking for a job when I found this one.


 


 


OSI line counting

OSI question?


Have recently talked to an MT who just started at OSi within the past 3 months.  Line counting does not seem to jive with Word.  A great difference.  Word counting lists 100 lines, OSI counting of the same report lists 40 lines.  They claim they do not count spaces, which I find rather surprising, because the last time I checked, a space is a keystroke.


Any input?  Thanks.


Line counting changes
In my method of calculation, used to be 11% subtracted for headers/footers (and whatever else). Now it comes out to 15%!!!! Gosh, I forgot, the headers and footers have steadily gotten larger - BS. Oh yes, we the transcriptionists must tithe to work on this particular software, if you know what I mean.
At least they were upfront with u on not paying for spaces...
they told me mine included spaces and it doesn't!! RIDICULOUS!!
IF NOT PAYING FOR SPACES BEHIND YOUR BACK
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Companies not paying for spaces
Hi everyone:  I normally produce at least 1200 lines a day and working with a company that does not pay for spaces.  Wow!!! what a diff.  Very discourgaged at this point. 
VBC is code for not paying for spaces
Don't be deceived. VBC (virtual black character) is simply a new way of saying - no pay for hitting the spacebar between words.
perhaps not paying for spaces does not start until your
MTSOs contract is renewed with that particular VA hospital.
So is LeePerfect still paying for spaces, or just VBC?
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But no longer paying for spaces IS a pay cut...?
If spaces previously being paid for are no longer being paid, that constitutes a pay cut; not in the sense of cents per line or cents per character, but nonetheless a cut in pay.

Your post totally confused me.
What company isn't paying spaces?
What Editscript company stopped paying for spaces?   Confused?
documed line counting
Is there anyone out there who works for Documed? Do you know how they count lines? I would appreciate any information anyone has. Thanks very much.
I question their line counting

If their version of Word is provided by Dictaphone, who also provides the line counting website, why aren't the two compatible?  We had some discrepancy between the two and instead of fixing it we got locked out of the lines typed this session feature of MS Word (which was helpful and is not available on the website.  Rather than fix it they disable it.  They're a little heavy handed.  Love it or leave it.   


line counting programs
I know abacus is free to download, but I have found that it is inconsistent with its counting abilities in my own experiences. I believe this site, MTStars has a line counting program available too, but I do not know if it is free. I don't know anything about wtd. lines. best of luck.
line counting program

Does anybody know of a free line counting program I could download?  Also, is anybody familiar with wtd. lines vs. lines in a line counting program?  I assume wtd. means weighted, and what does it mean?  Thanks.


 


 


Line counting messes
I have a positive post but I am not revealing the company - yet... Don't want to jump out there and say what a great company this is like I had done in the past only to find out I was so dead wrong. I am working on the Dictaphone Extext platform. The session statistics ARE enabled within the program. I was told right up front that headers and footers were not counted ---so this is not a good excuse for any company to disable this feature. I find my line counts so far to be fair and accurate and what I would expect. I am glad to finally find a company that is on the up and up and does not give me the run around or the just trust me answer when it comes to verifying line counts. I have been pleasantly surprised. Just hope it continues and I will be happy to post their name here, just don't want to do it too prematurely.
line counting programs

If the line count in a particular platform, for example ExText, is compared to MS Word count where the total word count is divided by 65, shouldn't the count be about the same? 


 


 


line counting programs
In this case, the count in ExText is way below that of MS Word for the same reports. I don't have another line counting program to go by but wouldn't you think from this that something isn't quite right? 
Line Counting Change
I know where you're at and agree with you 100%. Have noticed the same thing myself, only this was not the first time. This has been happening over a period of time in stages. It first became apparent to me awhile ago.
I never understood how MTSOs came up with not paying for spaces. sm
You have to hit the spacebar just like anything else, and the document would be pretty darned hard to read without them.  I refuse to work for cheaterhead companies like that. Thanks for passing along the information.
Line counting methods do vary
from account to account on this platform so ask lots of questions and try and talk with MTs actually working for a company using it before jumping in. I worked for a company that had session statistics disabled and I was very disappointed with the way lines were counted. I couldn't make it. The company I am currently employed with has this enabled and my counts are great. It may have nothing to do with the ability to view the stats but may have all to do with the way lines are counted.
Let us know when the line counting issue is resolved...sm
as in being able to view line counts live as you type, and then I would like to apply to the company.  Seriously, I think it sounds like a great place to work, but no one should ever work for a company where you cannot view your production in live time.  But, if they get that all straightened around, I will be sending in my resume.  Keep us updated.  TIA
Line counting program. I'm sure there are previous
posts regarding this issue, however, I really don't have the time right now to do a search for them.  I was wondering what the best line counting program is, where I can get it from, etc.  I have Windows XP and use Microsoft Word 2003 if that helps any at all.  I would very much appreciate anyone's input on this subject.  TYIA.
Apparently getting a new line counting program
We were told we were getting a new line counting program some time back - but as of yet I have not seen it. Anyone at TT using this program yet?
Line counting system TransTech

Has anyone noticed changes in line counting.  I work in EXText.  As I recall, it used to be if I typed/edited 1600 lines (as counted by EXText), it would then show up as approximately 1400 lines in Ichart, losing about 200 lines.  Now I am showing approximately a loss of 225 in the above-listed scenario.  Maybe I am remembering incorrectly?? 


Anyone else notice any recent changes?


Line counting change under your noses
Yep, I have been with a certain company for several years and have always used the same formula using my own calculator to make sure I match their line counting method to make sure I make the $ I want each day.  This formula has worked WITHOUT FAIL for several years.  Two weeks ago it changed.  And not for the better either.  Not a huge difference, but yep, it has definitely changed.  Probably why nobody has noticed, but I definitely do.  This all comes with the upgrade of a certain program.  Not only is there the stress of low/no work, but now the line counting is changing too, suddenly, with the upgrade I assume, or at least pretty suspicious as to the timing of it.  Must have something to do with VR, no doubt.  Double the production!  Then you will never notice the small, teensy eensy drop in your count!  You VR cheerleaders, smarten up!  You are slowly stamping out the true MT who has given the blood, sweat and tears of learning this profession (and knowing what we are worth, and STILL not getting it) with your tireless pep rallies.  You jumped on the band wagon because you think it is the new sweep of the future.  You were too afraid to stay with what you truly believe.  The saying goes, what goes around comes around..you say this is the new technology?  Well geez, what happens next?  I can't wait to see in future years how YOUR job is stamped out only by yet another new technology.  Now I am paranoid that I need to obtain copies of my medical records because it will be like a credit report...make your corrections immediately!  Lol.  To think that anyone would work for half wage of a traditional MT, and please realize you truly do not make any more, if you do you are truly delusional, it makes me realize just how bad the economy really is.  But in the proces, it is going to stamp out a truly wonderful group of people who have a vast knowledge of MT and who have depended on this knowledge for God knows how many years.  Yes, it is truly a sorry situation.  I am spending every free minute of each day (and no that is not hardly anything since I am spending most of my free minutes waiting on a job) looking at other professions.  The MT profession is dead, and don't be fooled that VR is a profession, you in years to come will be history too....technology!  Remember?  Yeah....  Geez I feel better now.  Oh, and forget your hateful replies to me.  It won't change a thing. 
MEANT to type NOT paying for SPACES....TOO EARLY.NM
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Does anyone know how to control the DocQscribe line counting method?
Every software has a way to mark what to count and what not to count.  Anyone know how this is done with DocQscribe? 
Has TransTech's line counting issue been resolved yet?
But I remember this was a big issue a while back.  Any info appreciated. 
They don't seem the line counting program is too important. No updates on
nm
It's the ExText software. Easy to use. Has it's own expander, if you want, and line counting b
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Anybody know of any good line counting software that is free to download?

TIA


Good sound quality, fair line counting, pay always on time.
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You are right - see posts below about co's paying OT/recording hrs
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Spaces are not taken into account with gross lines....a line is a line...sm

if there seven words on a line.


or two


one


or a full line of typing...all of the companies that I have worked for define a gross line as 1 inch margins, 12 pt courier font....does not matter what we type in margins or font.....we convert all reports to the 1 inch margins and courier 12 font and then count the lines.  not the blank spaces between the lines.


Hope this helps.


I see they pay on a VBC line. Isn't that a huge paycut from a 65-char. line with spaces? nm
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Past posts have them paying only 7 and 7.5 cpl, even for experience. What about
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Old posts say they don't pay for spaces. Don't know about now. nm
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Posts from May said they offered 6-8 cpl with spaces and pay was on time. nm
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Any companies paying .10+/line?
If so, who and where are they?? 
They are paying 0.05 per 65/char line for VR nm
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No. But I see they are only paying 7 cents a line
You can get clients if you undercut. But it is getting good transcriptionists that is the trick if you pay so little.