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Reporting to the IRS

Posted By: Alice on 2008-09-28
In Reply to: keep looking. - dk

I did research the IRS stuff about Independent Contractor versus Employee.  As far as reporting companies, all I could find was 2 forms; one to fill out when you already work for a company and want to dispute your classification (SS-8), and the other form to fill out had something to do with the actual taxes being withheld while your dispute is under investigation.  I was not able to find the form or process for reporting a company regardless of whether I work for them or not.  If you know the details, I would appreciate you sharing them.  I'm sure that anyone can phone the IRS and make a statement, however what does the person on the other end of the phone do with it if there is no formal process or paperwork in that case?  It might just go in one of their ears and out the other, and I certainly don't want to waste my time.


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You could try court reporting (sm)
...If you're that sick of transcription.

My sister does it and makes good money.  I agree with the poster, above, though - there can be two or three people talking at the same time, some people could be hard to hear 'cuz they're really far from the microphone (a microcassette player you bring yourself).  Plus it seems like double the work - you have to go to court and type on that little ShortHand machine (oh, and you have to learn shorthand), then type the stuff out in readable form at home.  And you have to have a professional wardrobe to wear to court.  Yuck; not for me. 

She seems to like it, though.  She does have flexible hours (it depends when there's a case going on), works from home but has an office base.  She has to drive around to different court locations a lot (she might be able to deduct gas mileage).  I think she's considered an independent contractor, with all the pluses and minuses that go with that (more freedom but more taxes, pay for own insurance, etc.).
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I don't work for them. Just reporting what others have said. nm
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I had thought of reporting her
I had thought about reporting her to the Labor Board actually, but was told by a friend as an IC the labor board couldnt do much for me.. then someone else said they could..especially since, even though she likes to call her employees ICs, they really are actually employees she is illegally calling ICs to avoid paying taxes and bennies.. But since I did finally get paid, there's really not much for the LB to do, I would think. Except maybe light a fire under her in the future and make her pay people and not try and play games with their money. The one she really needs to be reported to is the IRS.. you can't have ICs and make them work a schedule and hound them, and threaten their jobs for not working scheduled hours..but they sure do!!
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Reporting companies
From the website:
http://ethicswontcutit.brentcaulley.com/resources/Complaint+Form

Instructions and info:
There are 3 major U.S. Government Agencies that are concerned with
misclassifying workers as independent contractors when they work as
and get treated as employees
1)The first and most formidable is the IRS. Anybody who has ever been
audited can tell you the IRS is bad news. The IRS is interested both
because Independent contractors get tax breaks on their business
expenses and the company hiring them doesn't have to pay payroll taxes.
The types of penalties on a company like Vector for this kind of tax
evasion on a mass scale with tens of thousands of workers are enormous,
possibly even bankrupting. The only drawback to reporting a company
to the IRS is that you can't do it online. You will have to write a
letter, print it out, and either mail it or walk it in to your local
IRS office, which are all listed at www.irs.gov
2)Your local Dept of Labor, which is interested because it is their
responsibility to make sure workers in their jurisdiction are being
treated right, getting all the pay, benefits, and treatment they
legally have coming to them and that employers are following labor laws.
There are both State DOL Departments and a Federal one. Most likely you
will have to mail them a letter, stop by, or call them up. Their
contact information is at www.dol.gov
3)Your local Unemployment and/or Worker's Compensation Insurance Agency/s
They are interested because if you aren't classified as an employee
but you should be, the company that hired you is skimping out on
unemployment and worker's compensation benefits. These agencies are
closely related to the Dept of Labor and often even a dept within the
DOL. These locations can be found at www.dol.org too.

The independent contractor status is not there to allow some employers
to weasel out of all the rights our local and federal governments have
decided employees deserve, it is there because there are a small minority
of business owners out there (like most attorneys, consultants,
accountants, and such) who run their business by doing small, brief
jobs to multiple other people or businesses- usually at the same time.
Those who run their own businesses don't have anybody but themselves to
give them their benefits and don't need rights to protect them from
anybody but themselves (or the businesses they do their brief jobs for,
but employees get don't get a whole lot rights to protect them from
their customers either, just their bosses).

What the government is looking for in determining whether they are an
employeee or not is behavioral control, financial control, and the type
of relationship. Which are all outlined here:
http://www.irs.gov/govt/fslg/article/0,,id=110344,00.html
To determine these 3 factors, they generally use the IRS's 20
questions which can be found here:
http://www.richterscale.org/garage/20ques.htm
(if these links get outdated you can always search irs.gov and google)

Anyone have information on Ubiqus Reporting
Thanks
Does anyone have any info on Ubiqus Reporting?

Can you work part time for them?  How are they to work for?   Do they have enough work to go around?  Is their pay pretty decent?  


TIA!


Wish I'd chosen court-reporting! -(sm)-
When I was 25, my friend & I were both going to trade school. She chose court-reporting, and tried in vain to get me to take it with her. But no, I chose MT because it was faster and I could get a job quicker.

SHOULDA', COULDA', WOULDA' !!!!

If life were on videotape, I'd rewind back to that year and make the RIGHT choice this time. Too late, now - MTs are screwed.
The issue of reporting companies
I would never think of reporting a company because I have a child to care for and I do not want trouble in my life. I was merely passing along what a tax pro told me. I am just glad to be getting out of MTing for good and after January 1, will not look back. What was once a wonderful chance for many women (and men, too; I am sure there are stay at home dads out there) has become rather a school of sharks. I am glad I am leaving it.
reporting cherry pickers falls on deaf ears. I have complained for years.
,,
Bashing?????? You consider reporting nonpaying employers bashing? sm
Yeah, I got my 1099 too.  It included the couple of thousand dollars for invoices that she's never paid me for.  She really deserves her due now, doesn't she??  On the bright side, maybe the IRS can do something with her.  Cuz I ain't paying taxes on that money she's never paid me.