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Besides the obvious humiliation the girl has suffered

Posted By: MichiganMT on 2009-02-11
In Reply to: That just burns me. I have to say...sm - They said what

Isn't this also the equivalent of performing medical testing on a minor without parental consent?  I agree with all of the above posters.  This child has been humiliated and that counselor needs to lose his job.  I have a 12 yo and she would be MORTIFIED if this was done to her.  She's uncomfortable enough with her body changes,  such as her breasts developing and just starting to have periods.  She would be embarrassed beyond words if something like this happened to her.


 




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I'm not obvious about it, but...

it is obvious by her mood swings when it is approaching, and we all run for cover!   Also, when she gets hers, I know my is only a few days aways, so that is helpful to me, too.


I also regularly check her BC pills (she's 17) because she is in a serious relationship for over a year with the same guy and I'm not ready to be grandma for a long time. 


obvious to who?
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Never said that she was, just stating the obvious......
I know if she were my sister (I'm around her age) I would not have wanted anyone to know, that's all.
The most obvious question here is......
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It seems obvious but I feel bad (sm)
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and the obvious question is
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I know this is stating the obvious but sm
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If you can't change your SIL's mind (and it seems obvious you can't) sm
Then you need to build a fence around your property to protect your children. Yes, I know it's expensive, but what are your children's lives worth?
he shouldn't even ask-it's too obvious and classless

again, just my own *take* on the situation...betcha these people always get called by virtual strangers or acquaintenances to stay with them while the guests do Disney Parks.....living in Orlando and all that....


it reeks of using them.....just to stay there.....


Bad taste, to say the very least.


You are a caring, loving person. That has been obvious SM
from your posts for a long time to me. You are doing the right thing and staying on top of this. With your close eye and caring and with professionals on board I think your son has a bright future. Keep us informed.
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Obvious error in prior reply - meant to say
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You go girl...
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Man do I hate that phrase but guess it says it in this case.

Why do people always assume we have to be indebted to our parents/children for the rest of our lives. As we get older this is the time we are suppose to take care of ourselves, and for once in our lives think about ourselves. We raised our children, watched them grow from children into adults, put them through school, rooted (sp?) for them at their sports games, supported their ups and downs, watched them proudly at their wedding, or supported them if they decided to be with another person and not marry. We did everything for them. Now when we are at the age of retirement and want to take time for ourselves and think about ourselves for a change we are called selfish and are supposed to feel guilty?????? Give me a break! So who is going to take care of us when we need it? Retirement is the age of "me". That's not a selfish wish, it's what happens in life. Yes we are here to support our kids (emotionally - who are no longer kids), and financially if we can if they need it or if we want to slip them a $20 in their pocket from time to time for no reason, but I'm with the above poster. It's my golden years its now time for me! Life is about growing, knowing who we are, learning about ourselves. Society forces us to follow the bandwagon meaning...your born, you go to school, you graduate and get a job, you get married, have kids, watch your kids grow, retire and take time for yourself. Not once have I ever seen anything talking about getting to know oneselves before going and getting married to another. I do not believe we are born in life just to always take care of other people. We've given enough of ourselves to others. It's now time for me.
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Your little girl - sm
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LOL you go girl!
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Girl,
don't go away mad . . .
You GO Girl
Agree 100% with everything you say & stand for. Send me an e-mail & if you have PayPal I will send you some money for your rescue animals (I have 2 myself) right now.

Don't let ANYONE tell you animals are less important to the universe than children; NFW.
You GO, Girl!
I have been thinking about it a lot lately myself. It is very difficult. I've "quit" a couple of times myself, yet here I am, a smoker still.

I have been meaning to ask, are those of you on this board who were discussing group quitting following through? How's it going? Do you keep in touch/support each other through e-mails? Just curious because I haven't seen any discussion about it since the new year began and wishing you all good luck and success, and same for you XanaX!

(Kicking myself for not joining in with you guys!)
You go girl!!!!

Congrats and have fun!!!


WOOHOO...you go girl (OP)...

She was the white girl with the
kind of "punk" look.  Dark hair, large red highlight in front. 
lol, I definitely don't think the little girl was a *plant*....
but I do agree she may need a psychiatrist! Yikes.
boys or girl
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I'm no young girl...
I'm a lot older and I think Blake's adorable. To each is own. And by the way, he's as tall as my husband, who by the WA is no creep. LOL.
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Amen girl!

We are NOT all hillbillies, either!