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But that philosophy doesn't work unless

Posted By: another mom of a daughter on 2008-07-18
In Reply to: Yes I have children - Shana

practiced from the beginning. You can't expect a child who has been virtually allowed to make no decisions from the get-to to be capable of making them later.

I completely agree with your philosophy, but I think at this stage in the OP's situation, it may be too late for that.

I actually insisted my daughter make her own decisions since she was able to communicate. Of course, you don't let them run out in the street if they want, but I taught her right wrong, guided her (which included punishment guidelines for inappropriate behavior), and gave her my opinions, but for the most part, she was in control.

When they're able to make the little decisions (like the example you gave) when they're young, they are more equipped to graduate into the more important decisions down the road.

My DD is 21 now and I feel like the luckiest mom in the world because other than just menial, normal things/stressors, she's really been just a wonderful child.

I'm not saying I'm mom of the year because I do believe in the 'bad seed' theory and I just think she'd have turned out good if the wolves had raised her, but I do believe she has a certain confidence in herself that is a result of being able to make choices and suffering the consequences or reaping the benefits.

I've gone on way too long, but I just wanted to say that I totally agree with your post and even though every child is different, they do need to learn how to make decisions, just like they learn how to talk. But you can't throw it at them all of the sudden... jmo ;-)

Just want to say one more thing. I've know many kids there were raised 'do it my way or no way' and just about every one of them are the worst behaved kids outside of the presence of their parents. And what's really bad is they're sneaky about it. They've mastered how to get away with things because they have to... and that's dangerous...


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With our experience, he doesn't need
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My mom doesn't like when mine rub against her, either

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He doesn't really look like he has aged all that much
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Ugh, doesn't sound
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It doesn't look sore, red or anything. Just
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How do you know he doesn’t like you/kids
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Doesn't bother me
For some women it takes more than soap and water. Not a biggie.
Doesn't bother me at all either
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I think you are the one who doesn't "get it"

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