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Can you name 3 meds that don't come with scary waringing?

Posted By: nm on 2007-05-21
In Reply to: Scary reports on Eladil possible side effects, though. (sm) - Me

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BP meds (sm)
When my husband started a medication for BP he started having strong muscle twitching he'd never had before. I think it was something odd, like his pec or abdominal muscles, but I can't remember. The MD had just started him on 3 new meds, one of them being a BP med. That's the one I suspected, and sure enough, muscle twitching was a possible side effect, especially if the patient exerted himself and perspired a lot. I think it could cause potassium depletion and that was the reason for the twitching.
Thanks, so scary
I put my cats in the powder room with their blanket in the inner part of the house. I watched TV and was ready to join them as soon as I was told to take cover as was being told to people just down I-75 from me. Like I said, rotation 2 miles away and that is too close for me. Live on a high hill and last year tornado touched down in exactly the same place where rotation was today. Hope I have missed the bullet for this time. There has been damage though in my state from a tornado today. Thanks, I was praying also.
A scary day for NY

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/19/nyregion/19scene.html?hp


Yes, it's very scary (sm)
I remember when the study came out in a health magazine back in the ྖs. I found this link, which tells more of the story than I remember from the health magazine article.

http://www.all-natural.com/microwa1.html

I've been told I'm an alarmist (even a whacko!)....so I don't really talk about these things very much. My own family doesn't believe in much of this either, and I won't go into it here in great detail. But let me just say this:

The best thing to do is to be informed, and then each of us can make the decisions for ourselves, of what we put into our bodies, or on it, etc.

For myself, I do not to use a microwave.

I do not buy genetically modified food, if I know what it is, and can help it, that is. Corn is the scariest thing out there right now, that's in so many different foods/drinks:


http://www.truefoodnow.org/shoppersguide/guide_printable.html#baking

I buy organic food and non-hormone and non-antibiotic meats, non-irradiated as well.

I use only biodegradable household cleaners, nothing toxic.

I do not use flouride toothpaste or antibiotics that are fluoroquinolones.

I do not to use a deodorant that has aluminum in it.

I will not have any vaccinations that have mercury in them.

I now get only porcelain fillings, no more amalgam (silver, mercury). It's on my wish list to get all the old mercury out of my mouth, and I've been doing it slowly.

I also stay out of the sun, because I have fair skin, and skin cancer runs in my family.

I try to make as many healthy choices as I can.

Like I said, though, all we can do is inform ourselves. Find out everything you can on things that may be poisoning us, without our even knowing it. Then choose how you go about living your life.


yep very very scary

I was born in the 50s...so I'm old enough to BE your mother *snickers*  *winks@U*


In my opinion, this country slowly but surely is becoming a dictatorship....I'm just glad my kid is an adult now and I don't have to face these Gardisil issue(s), until she has children of her own.  And if she has a girl - I'm against that mandatory thing......


if we raise our girls right, we can cut down on these problems.  I raised mine right and she waited...and listened....I think I just lucked out....but I didn't stop talking and still don't...*laughs*


and on her myspace page she has put me as Her Hero....*flattered* and *humbled* by this kid!!!  We have a great relationship, something I didn't have with my own mother...(though had it with my father and is probably why I didn't have it with my mother, and they remained married for 48 hours until her death....) 


My Dad was THE BEST!  They don't make 'em like they made 'em in the beginning of the prior century....I always told him.  He died a couple of years ago, I miss him badly...I never did miss my mother...oh that's not entirely true - I missed her growing up while she was alive...(her social life was more important than her kids, the post WWII moms, some of them were like this....)


Keep The Faith is what I think.....


me too - it is scary, isn't it? (sm)
We have had our money split up for severaal years. In fact my husband recently bought a $7,000 boat without even discussing it with me :(
that is scary
I'm glad you had the dogs there with you - I too never lock my doors - also living in a rural area. I have dogs also. . but I may start locking my doors when I am alone. .
Scary isn't it?
I don't have any advice for you, but I have an 11 year old son. Found out that lots of kids in his MIDDLE SCHOOL are having sex, drinking, smoking, and using drugs. This is in a 'supposedly good' school in a suburb of Atlanta. There is also some gang activity. I will be homeschooling him starting this fall.

I am so sorry to hear of your problems with your daughter. I hope that someone here is able to offer you some sound advice. I know that it is not a good feeling to have someone living in your house whom you feel you cannot trust.
Not scary now, on TV, but REALLY scary in the
Best line:

"I think we're gonna need a bigger boat."
He is scary sometimes...sm
I have told my mom on more than one occasion he is not right in the head. I think he has mental issues. He does not demonstrate normal behavior at all.
I agree his girlfriend can sew it back on. You know what is funny is his girlfriend doesn't know how he REALLY is. He hides that side of himself. My mom said one day it will come out and she will see him for who he really is.
He thinks nothing of calling one time right after another if you don't answer the phone and will ride by and spy on you to see if you are home or just not answering the phone. My mom did have to threaten to call 911 one night though cause he was on her front porch banging on the windows and the walls and crying and yelling to let him in please. She had to threaten to call 911 before he would leave.
Can you say insane?!
I don't think the depression meds --sm
should be taken in conjunction with pot. Anger and anxiety issues were already present prior to father's death. He may be grieving on some level, as his own psyche will allow, but sounds more like an excuse to me. I have lived with these types in the past. His lack of ambition is probably due to the pot, as well. Thinking of the child, I feel that separation from the source of this frustration would be the best thing for the boy. Counseling rarely works for the spouse, but it would probably benefit you. Go with your gut reaction on this as to what is best. You live with the man, and you know more about him than what you can post here. Trust your instincts. Good luck to you.
Fibro meds

I was diagnosed in January of this year by a rheumatologist after having problems starting last August that began with a rash and my GP did a battery of tests - the rheumatologist started me on 1500 mg of Relafen (which has greatly diminished the tender areas like my hip areas), I also take 150 mg of Zoloft, 600 mg of neurontin, 50 mg of Tramadol every 4 hours as needed (which do me has not really helped the pain 100%, but it does lessen it a good bit) and I take a muscle relaxer at bedtime and sometimes during the time.  These meds do not zap me and I feel more functional with them than before. I also take Halcion if I am unable to fall asleep, however, these days it seems that I am so exhausted that I have no problem sleeping as long as I am not hurting and the muscle relaxer at bedtime seems to help with that. Of course now that my inflammatory markers are at a near normal range I am walking 30 minutes a day and have begun stretching exercises 15 minutes in the morning, 15 minutes at night to help with the muscles.  The rheumatologist has said that all of these will change as the fibro progresses and I age (I'm only 33) but he said if we stay on top of it it should be very tolerable for me from now on - I am thankful to my GP for the referral to this doctor because I have read of so many stories where the GP ignored the patient's complaints only putting them on powerful pain meds and not really getting to the source of the problem or telling them that there is nothing wrong or nothing they can do...I feel now that the pain is being managed, my biggest complaint is being tired at doing the simplest of things - like folding clothes - I feel that I need to rest after I do that - whereas before it was just a normal thing.  My rheumatologist has stressed that sleep/rest is very important so he says when your body tells you to stop and rest - do it - whatever it is you have on your to do list can wait - otherwise you're gonna really feel bad and then nothing on your to do list will get done. I see my rheumatologist every 3 months right now and he says once I am doing okay on the meds and everything seems in check we'll go to every 6 months and then yearly until something goes out of whack and my treatment needs changing - he seems to really be on top of things.


What meds are you taking?  Do you see a doctor on a regular basis?


Needing meds
I think just the opposite - it's the rest of you who could use the meds - or at least not be so judgemental - but I have found that this board - regardless of the subject has quite a few very rude, mean and just downright B***tchy women - sorry if you were offended, but it was my right to BF as long as I chose - and until you work hard enough to get a law passed against it - it's something you must deal with - I think that most of you are jealous of the fact that this is not something that you could do - or wanted to do - maybe you are feeling jealous because my kids are great - we have great relationships and maybe your kids don't even speak to you unless they need money - Most of you would give anything to have a family as close and functional as mine.  However, it is something that you will never know.  God has been very good to us - and thankfully I followed his Word and not yours.
Thanks - have been seeing a psychiatrist for meds

After a couple of years or so on the same meds, they stop being as effective. That's why we're trying Cymbalta.


I am more cyclothymic than bipolar (rapidly cycling, less extreme mood swings). I tend toward the depressive end of the scale most of the time. The Cymbalta did trigger my hypomania - but I'm hoping once my body gets used to it, it will keep me on the higher end of the scale but not as far as hypomania.


I'm going to give it a while longer to see what happens. Many thanks to all who responded!


No advice about meds, but...
if you are consuming caffeine, try cutting back.  It helped me significantly.  Even 1 cup of coffee was aggravating my anxiety.
I was on three meds before finding the right one (sm)
Zoloft made me too sleepy, Effexor didn't do much but gave me strange buzzing sensations when stopping it. Prozac, low dose (10 mg a day) has helped a lot. I take it in the a.m. so it doesn't keep me up at night. But by the end of the day it helps me sleep. (I also take melatonin for sleep). At first you may have some palpitations when your body is getting used to the Prozac, not sure about the other meds with that symptom. I definitely think Prozac is the best.
cholesterol meds sm
I was given Tricor (expensive) and it gives me embarrassing gas, only take it when I'm going to be alone, so it wasn't powerful enough and they added simvastatin which they told me to take before bed because supposedly that's when the cholesterol is best treated by this. I found it kept me awake or ? psychological??? I tried to stick to it because I have a doc's appt. Mon. and was so tired and nauseous from taking both, I actually feel like I have the flu. I think I am going to express the desire to just try diet but know I'll catch He*l, as they seem to prefer you to take all this stuff. I never heard of statin shuffle, can't find it, that's awful! Last time my #s were down to normal and they were so excited, well, now I think it's my turn to start to live again. If you can take it with no side effects, then do it, but I'm sick of feeling sick. Both parents had and died of heart disease, so I'm scared. There has to be a better way!
There are some Club Meds that do not
admit anyone under a certain age. Not all are family friendly, some very adult themed.
noncovered meds
Yes... This has happened more in the last 2 years than it has in my other 40!

I asked for birth control about a year ago and chose "the patch". My insurance company didn't cover that, so I decided to go with Depo Provera. Guess what... they didn't pay for that either.... LOL
You got it!!! I am so real, it's scary *LOL*

And I never tried to push my upbringing/religion onto anybody ever in life and now I'm not into organized religion but very into G_D!  And I would never push my ways down anyone else's gullet.


 



very scary indeed - (I used to live in AZ)....no msg

I think the scary thing about #2 is - sm
not so much that the ad is out there, but that it will probably get a ton of responses.  The Internet is a wonderful and very frightening tool. 
Vegas scary?
My husband and I visit all the time- he has nights when he goes where he wants and I go where I want- I love the shows, he does not- we split up and OMG, I am a woman all by myself out on the streets of Vegas… I am scaring myself! People are all over the streets day and night- I feel completely safe, probably safer than in my home town. Why scare someone??
scary games
They are so much fun though. I really really like them. I am on a community now online called There.. Kind of like a visit chat community.. almost a game for me.. Meet a lot of nice people.
How scary! Big hugs to you. sm

Take a deep breath, say the Serenity Prayer, Let Go and Let God, make sure you are taking care of yourself by eating and getting the rest you need.  That's what Al-Anon has taught me and it has served me well. 


This is scary. How could they be so careless? nm
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Wow . . . that is shocking and very scary.
Our school district has an exception to the medication policy for children carrying asthma inhalers, where paperwork is completed in advance and kept on file.
Can tell you that Ambien is a little scary
my daughter was prescribed it and she did very bizarre things in her sleep that she has no recollection of - covered the entire bathroom floor with an entire box of tissues very neatly, sat down to go to the bathroom without pulling down her pajamas, walked into other people's rooms and did strange things.  Jack Nicholason said he nearly drove off a cliff on Ambien. 
Scary! Thanks for sharing because
now I'm going to be on high alert. Thank God you caught it when you did! BTW, which company are you talking about that might have been an inside job? I'm hoping it's not one I have an account with! :0)
Pretty scary, isn't it?

I just don't know how much worse this nation must get before it is worse that Sodom and Gommorah.  Those cities must have been wicked beyond compare.  Part of me says "Wait just a little longer, Lord" but another, ever increasing part of me says "Come even so Lord Jesus."


OH MY GOSH! how scary.
when i picked up those 2 guys, i was raging mad at my employer and in one of those "i don't care" states of mind. another time when i passed a decent looking guy in a hospital parking lot, i ignored the bad feeling i had, and he tried to kidnap and rape me. so maybe our "senses" don't always clue us in, but when they do, we need to LISTEN!!
I commend you for that...I am on Rx pain meds
and on 4 per day or every 6 hours. After doing this for a couple of years, I feel it is time to stop even if it means having to have surgery down the road. If I take even 1 less pill a day I feel the anxiety you mention among many other very unpleasant symptoms if I take less than that (clammy, achy, etc.) How many pills were you taking? And how did you do it?
Did you know that vaginal yeast meds
and many of the meds for jock itch, ring worm and athletes' foot are the same exact drug? Now the sprays and/or powders use different ones from some of the creams, but the some of the athlete's creams are just like some of the vaginal yeast creams. It's all for fungal infections, but the makers want you to buy 3 or more tubes please, LOL.
pre root canal meds
Hi, sorry you are feeling bad. I am too, same reason. Here, we have a waiting list for the endodontist and they call you if and when there is a cancellation. I take 2 Advil LiquiGels and 2 Extra-Strength Tylenol every six hours and it works for a while. Do you have antibiotics? Make sure that you check daily for abscess because that is an emergency and must be dealt with. I hope I get mine fixed before my liver falls out from Tylenol. I have had several and now am about to give up because I don't have another $12,000.00 These are all from fillings I had as a child that expanded and made micro-cracks in molars, that then led to this horrible toothache. Last time I had one I had trigeminal neuralgia for 8 months afterward from the injection. Now I know why some people are "suicidal" when they have trigeminal neuralgia. I can't even have cold air on my face or cold beverages or it feels like I am going to die. I am with Hayseed. There has to be a better way to apply fillings and a less expensive way to repair teeth. We are upper middle class and still can't afford all this. Our insurance is of the "very good" variety and only pays a minimal amount for root canals and crowns. Is this discrimination to those of us who have lived to be over 35?
I have ADD and recently went back on to meds
My oldest child does as well.

I had a hard time medicating him until I found the right doc that listened to my son and how he felt and even asked for feedback from teachers and family.

We found a happy medium for him so that he could be himself and not feel drugged and be able to control his impulses as well as stay on task. Now at 21 his strong intelligent young man who no longer needs medication and makes his mommy so very proud of him.

Now on the other hand Mom now is back on medication because it seems with the big M looming on the horizon I need help to be able to stay on task and get my work done.

Don't rule anything out because its not what you want what is important is your child and how he feels. They have some new medicines out there now and Strattera is a good one that worked for my son however it didn't for me I take Adderall.

If I can be of help in any way feel free to contact me.
First off, don't be so quick to get meds. You just sound like a sm
disorganized person who finds it hard to concentrate. It's called stress. I think too many people are running to the doc for a cure all/fix all, when all they really need is peace of mind and a less hectic schedule. It can be done. As far as the disorganization, start one room at a time. One closet. One cupboard, etc. I had to do this. I was told I was "crazy," which is worse than someone saying ADD. I don't think I'm crazy.

Prayer and church is the one thing that helped me tremendously having never been to church growing up. I'm not throwing religion in your face, but something has to be said about these miraculous changes I've been through since "finding God." He's helped me in every single area of my life including the "craziness, disorganization, beating myself up for wandering when I should be working."

I think the meds suppress the actual symptoms. I've had to deal with much deeper issues and insecurities in my life - always chasing things I shouldn't be chasing after.

Anyways, the kids need me so I better run! I just don't like people telling you that you need meds. I've NEVER taken a medication for anything mental-related. Never. And I have never been happier and more accepting of my life - disorganized or not! The freedom it gives you to accept yourself the way you are is priceless!! it really is.
So they will finally deliver your meds
on Monday but the transcription equipment they have for you has to wait until the 2nd? How messed up is that, you would think they would do it all in 1 trip. Geesh.
I was diagnosed with GAD in 2005. I think everybody's different as far as meds go. SM

I am on Effexor XR 150 mg a day and it works wonderfully for me, although when I forget to take my pill, I do get that strange dizzy, buzzy feeling that someone below described.  I also have Klonopin if I need it.  It's not as strong as Xanax, but it takes the edge off and helps with sleep.


I'm curious what was the catalyst for you being diagnosed?  I have always been a "worrier" ever since I can remember.  I bite my nails, but it was always manageable worrying.  Then in the fall of 2005, I had a full blown panic attack.  It was the worst experience of my life and I hope that I never have to go through it again.  I had a gallbladder attack.  I new it was my gallblader.  I knew I wasn't have a heart attack and yet it was like one half of my brain could not convince the other half.  I started feeling lightheaded, dizzy, and like I was in a tunnel.  I was at work and someone told me I should go to the employee health nurse.  I did and my BP was through the roof, my pulse was 130, and the nurse just ripped that BP cuff off my arm and said you need to be seen in ER and made sit in a wheelchair and wheeled me down there!


The irony is the more urgent she acted, the worse my panic got.  Finally, it was established that I was not having a heart attack, but still my body was freaking out.  I could not calm down.  Then I started crying and cried for two weeks straight.  I couldn't sleep at night.  I didn't want to be home alone.  I didn't want to go out in public.  I just basically sat in my house, on my couch for two weeks straight crying and fretting.  My doctor tried me on several different medicines including Lexapro and Zoloft, both did nothing for me but make feel nauseous.  Then he wanted to prescribe an antipsychotic which made me freak out even more.  Being a medical Transcriptionist and knowing about drugs, side effects, etc. was NOT conducive to my anxiety disorder!


Finally, I found a female nurse practitioner who was wonderful.  She new exactly what I was feeling.  Told me her daughter had the same issues and started me on Effexor.  I have been panic attack free going on three years.  I get what I call mini panic attacks where I can feel myself starting to freak out, but I've taught myself relaxation and breath techniques that calm me down.


I'm just jazzed to meet people who have the same "disorder" as me, ya know.  When I've described my anxiety and panic attack to my family and friends, they just look at me like I should be committed and when I was going through it, my family didn't have a clue what to do with me or to say to me.  They were afraid of me, really.  My mom kept saying "you need to snap out of it."  Yeah, ma.  If only it were that easy!


Um, YES and YES?! Haha. Also some of those meds have been found sm
to cause prostate enlargement and I believe prostate cancer.
insurance not paying for meds
Insurance said I had to be on Medicare before they would pay for Celebrex even with rheumatologist asking for exemption.
Frontline: Kids on Meds
The medications that they put the kids on can cause permanent brain damage. Go to PBS.org and watch kids on medications by Frontline.

Good luck.
No, what comes next? Force feeding meds?
Example:

If I am depressed it is MY choice to take antidepressants or not. If I do not feel comfortable with them, no matter what the doctor says, I can stop it.
Antidepressants have a LOT of bad side effect and there are alternatives!
one should never take meds prescribedfto pets
and vice versa! It is even more dangerous for pets! One shouldn't even take meds prescribed to somebody else! This is plain crazy.
You think that is scary; read the contract
that the parents had to sign, make sure to read the numbered portion. Now tell me, what type of parent would allow their child to do this? Digusting. I will definitely not be watching this garbage.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0823071kidnation1.html


They should have responded sooner. How scary!
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Yes, those Batman movies sure are scary.
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They ARE amazing, aren't they? Definitely scary - (sm)
when you're indoors.... so much banging, rattling, stuff falling, etc. But if you're lucky enough to be outdoors, as I was during the 1989 Loma Prieta quake (7.1 on the Richter), it's totally awe-inspiring. I was getting ready to wash my truck, and was carrying a bucket of soapy water across the yard. Suddenly the trees started shaking, and I thought a sudden breeze had come up on what had been a quiet, muggy day. Then I saw that the barn was swaying back and forth, and realized it was a quake. A few steps further, and it really started rolling. Had to hang onto the side of the truck to remain standing. Giant redwood trees were whipping back and forth so far that the tops of them were almost horizontal. We had a large pasture in front of the property for horses, and there were large waves in the ground, moving up and down with more than a foot and a half of vertical displacement. I couldn't help but laugh... it was pretty funny. Interestingly, all the horses turned and stood facing in exactly the direction of the epicenter. Once it stopped & I could let go of the truck, I ran into the landlord's backyard to look at the pool. The waves were big enough to surf on.

A friend of mine who lived up in the Santa Cruz mountains was driving down a long, steep, straight road when the quake hit, and she actually saw a big wave in the pavement (the primary, or P-wave) coming straight at her. She stopped and rode it out in the truck.

Another, very LUCKY friend, had been driving on I-880, and had just emerged from the covered section of freeway that collapsed when the quake hit, so wasn't caught in that awful disaster. He said it was weird... felt like he had a front flat tire, so he stopped on the side of the freeway to check his tires. As did several hundred other people! Imagine the whole freeway stopping, and everyone looking at their tires.... a 'Chinese fire drill', California-style.

My mom lives directly on top of the epicenter of the Northridge quake of ྚ. It was a very sharp vertical quake, and it literally threw her out of her bed, lengthwise. Good thing, because the bookshelf/headboard part of the bed fell over and landed where her head had been on the pillow.

I lived down there during the 1971 Sylmar quake, and I was trying to stay in my bed while it bucked like a bronco. My sister was in the bathroom hanging onto the sink & screaming. We had a jillion aftershocks from that one, which were more unnerving than the original quake. Every time we had an aftershock, another of my sisters started hyperventilating. That night, my parents were having the floor measured for new carpets. The poor contractor doing the measurements was so rattled by the shocks, not to mention everyone screeching and running out of the house when they hit, that he measured everything wrong, and the carpet they brought didn't fit. So a couple weeks later he had to come back and do it all over again. I was in Jr. College back then, and had a part-time job working at a stable. After the quake, when the sun came up I went up to the stables for work that day, and it was too dangerous to clean stalls with the horse in there during the aftershocks, so I had to take each horse out and put it in a corral while I cleaned the stall. Took me forever! I was up there all alone all day, and wasn't really worried, 'til I sat down on the ground to sharpen a pair of animal clippers. THAT'S when I realized that the ground was continually moving all the time.... jiggling very faintly, sort of like Jello. That's what got me feeling spooked.

Another time, I think in the 80's, when I was at work we had a long, not-that-strong, rolling quake. I was in the basement using the copy-machine at the time. I'd had a migraine that day and had just taken Fiorinal for it, which made me feel a little strange sometimes. While at the copy machine, I was feeling really dizzy and strange, and hearing strange creaking noises. I'm thinking, 'Wow... I don't feel so hot!' The rolling continued, and I felt kind of nauseous. Tried not to look at the light in the copier, which has triggered migraines in me in the past. Noticed lots of people standing in the doorway to the Medical Records dept. and Radiation Oncology, and my foggy brain wondered why they were all taking their break at the same time. Still felt sick, and decided that if I didn't feel better within the hour, that I would go home to bed. Right about then, (with the floor still rolling), someone commented to me on how nonchalantly I was copying away during an earthquake! I was actually relieved to learn that's what the problem was, and not a reaction to the medication! :D
but remember, back then that WAS scary. LOL. sm
I remember going with my friend to a matinee and when the shark came up onto the back of the boat, we both of us pulled our feet up on the seat. LOL.
Scary - you gotta be kidding
Lol - that's the most ridiculous thing I've read thus far. Scary?? Well, I guess most of the men around the world are scary then - ha?
Thanks for the update! Hoping the meds work
for your pooch!