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Daughter called, said don’t panic but you know that TB case?

Posted By: Bea on 2007-06-01
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Daughter and husband divorved last year and the guy from Atlanta being treated was the SIL divorce lawyer in October of last year. As she met this guy she was telling me this morning no really close contact (being in a room is close enough for me though), no outward signs of illness on his part.  I did not freak, rather told her to call her doctor. My former SIL has sickle cell disease and he is in the hospital with a flare as we speak. SIL recognized the guy on television, told the personnel at the hospital and now, you guessed it, he is in quarantine. It is really a small world, isnt it?




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in my case it was son-in-law and dear daughter
it can be confusing and actually I am not even sure I use them the same way as others!
Just went through this with my daughter. After trying everything, called the doctor's office
and they recommened Cetaphil facial moisturizer. You use it once a week for 3 weeks. You can Google it and find the website. It worked great! When I called and was told about it I guess I sounded a bit skeptical, but the nurse said they have parents calling in constantly telling them how well it worked.

Don't panic.
How is it invested? All 401K's have various investment options. Is some or all of it in stocks? In guaranteed income funds? In a money market? You should NOT take it out of the 401K. The 401K is just a basket that holds investments, and you are penalized heavily if you take it out of the 401K before retirement age. You can move around your investments within the 401K, though, which may or may not be a good idea. I would tend to hang tight for now.
Panic Attacks
I have had panic attacks since I was 38 and am now going to be 55. It started with a lot of stress in my life.. work, my sister committed suicide. I went like this for about 8 months before anyone would listen to me. I bought self-help books and i KNEW i had a panic disorder. Went to several therapists, psychiatrists. They wouldn't listen to me.. They asked me a million questions. Finally a friend at work suggested her Internal Medicine physician. I walked in to his office, told him I have a panic disorder. He said you don't look nervous. I said I am having a panic attack as we are3 speaking. I would have 4-5 panic attacks a day every day. I told him I had seen therapists, psychiatrists, etc. He said are you going to keep seeing the psychiatrist. I said NO.. because the first one i went to said " So tell me about your crazy family". That was it for me. I was shocked. So the Internal Medicine doctor put me on medication and my whole life changed.. I felt so much better, was able to cope, etc. Medicine is not for everyone but my panic attacks had blown so out of proportion that I finally became depressed because I could not function even though I went to work every day and many days having to leave work. I am still on medicine and feel great. The Internal Medicien doctor helped me more than the others. He listened to me and said " okay we are going to get you the right medicine and he told me that I needed to be patient. I have changed medicines now with the new one of Paxil and I am sooo much better. I am thankful for the day I walked into his office.
How about the feeling of panic as you
are about to turn left across traffic and get on an on ramp? I always suddenly panic and wonder if I'm about to meet traffic coming off because I'm trying to go up an off ramp.
A panic attack
can present as a heart attack, with the same initial symptoms of shortness of breath, chest pain, clammy and sweaty, irregular or rapid heart rate, etc. The first thing done at the hospital would be stat blood work and an EKG.  Depending upon what these showed, then an MRI with or without contrast would be done.  A mandatory 24 hour stay is required for all chest pain admissions. I've been working in a cardiopulmonary dept. as a respiratory care practitioner for 6 years and have seen this many many times.  So if it makes you feel any better, he could be telling the truth about this. 
And Kim has a panic disorder and is agoraphobic.
It's no secret she has a bunch of mental disoders. As I said, the poor kid. Can't win.
I would have hit that panic button if she said pregnant!
This is exactly what is happening all over the states, people in a panic, not me - I told her just to check with her physician next week. If it is not a mysterious box or package being found and a panic about that, it is this or something else, all the time. I was actually relieved to hear what she said!
Before you push the panic button sm
This is a recession, quite possibly the mother of all recessions. It may turn into a depression, but it will run a very distant second to the Great Depression, IF it does.

Pre the GP (Great Depression) you several things going on that are NOT true today. We had come out of WWI not that long before. It had been a very bloody war, the first war with mechanized destruction. What the Doughboys witnessed was for them what we saw on 09/11...unimaginable death and destruction. It changed how they viewed America.

When these boys came home from the war, they came back to the farm, by and large. We were an agrarian country and with the exception of east coast, there were hardly any factory jobs and most people worked the land. Plenty of places all over the country people worked on "shares" and they were not all in the deep south and they were not all black. There was not nearly the land/home ownership that there is today. Most of these dirt farmers lived in poverty and barely scraped by enough to eat twice a day. When the great Dust Bowl came through Oklahoma, it took the enormous clouds of dust eastward and dumped it into the Atlantic Ocean. This was a man-made disaster and the story of the Joads in the Grapes of Wrath centers on the Dust Bowl and the farming habits of families, like the Joads caused them problems. It was their fault that the top soil blew across FDR's desk in the Oval Office.

There was no infrastructure to speak of, in those days. There were roadways, but not the spider web of paved roads there are today. Goods were carried on the rails, not over the roads. You didn't have Walmart or Kroger. You had the store "in town" and the Sears-Roebuck catalog. If you couldn't find it there or could not afford it you either cobbled something together or did without. You can look the Coal Miner's Daughter about being so low-down dirt poor it is unbelievable. That movie is quite cleaned up and Hollywood presentable. You could look at the sparse surroundings of the ranch house in Broke Back Mountain where Ennis goes after Jack dies, and while the time frame is more modern, the very plain, only the very basics of life appear in that ranch house. They are both a bit sanitized, but reasonably realistic.

Today, Americans live extraordinarily different lives than we did 80 years ago. Most people have a vehicle. Most people have more than a dirt floor shack to live in. We, have thanks to the Great Depression and FDR's recovery plan, electricity, roads, water, sewage and other sanitation. We take these things for granted, but we should not. The GP did bring some food shortages, not because of the depression, but because of the lack of infrastructure combined with people on the move to find work to subsist. The food shortages you are thinking of came with WWII and rationing...another problem secondary to lack of infrastructure and subsistence farming where there was not enough food produced to meet the need.

If you are going to stock up on food, let be for more common sense reasons. If you put your money in the bank, you will make 2% or 3% return on $500. If you put that same amount into nonperishable food (think canned goods), you make a better return on an investment. You don't earn 2% or 3%, but you can end up leveraging against future price increases that will meet and exceed what interest you make from a bank, which is nothing right now. You will need food whether you buy it now or buy it later. Squirreling away extra under the bed or whatever place you can find room, is a wise investment...financially and in peace of mind.
Right, but dont panic. Thousands die from flu every
nm
Remember Me? Caught Between Pride and Panic?

Well, my daughter has been accepted at her #1 college choice, and we're going to the Accepted Students day this weekend. 


In her Creative Writing class in school, they were assigned the task of summing up their Senior year in six words and then to illustrate it. What she came up with blew her father and me away!  I hope those of you who have had children leave home will get an inkling of the emotional impact this had on us. Suffice it to say, there was not a dry eye in the house!  See below.


I would say that you have every reason to have panic attacks what with all the stress you've SM

been under.  I take Effexor XR for my painic attacks and atenolol to help control my BP and it keeps my heart rate down.  The combination works wonderfully, although I wonder if I've become a little too dependent on it as I sometimes get a little anxious at the thought of being without my Effexor.


I would have periodic episodes of anxiousness going all the way back to my teenage years, but I would always work through it myself.  Then a year ago, in the midst of marital trouble and feeling alone as I lived two states away from friends and family, I started having what I now know to be gallbladder pain while I was at work.  In my mind, I knew I wasn't having a heart attack, the pain was in my right rib cage and radiated around to my right scapula.  But I couldn't seem to convince my body.  My heart started racing, my mind was racing.  I felt dizzy and short of breath.  I went to the employee health nurse who took my BP and it was sky high.  She immediately rushed me to the ER which freaked me out even further.


Long story short, I was having a full blown panic attack and I hope that I never experience anything like that again.  I ended up crying for three weeks straight, was afraid be left alone, was afraid to leave my house, couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, would pace the house with my heart racing, not able to calm myself down.


I saw three different doctors before I found a female doctor who listened to me and told me she knew exactly what I was talking about because her daughter had panick attacks too.  She started me on Effexor and set me up with a therapist who taught me breathing techniques and meditation techniques to help calm myself when I feel anxious.  One technique, as simple as it sounds, is something I practice almost daily which is deep breathing:  in through your nose and out through your mouth and as you exhale allow your body to relax starting from the shoulders down.  It seems silly, but it really works.  I noticed that I clenched my jaw a lot and so that is were I focus my mind when I'm trying to relax.  I focus on the tension in my jaw and start relaxing from there down.


Exercise is another great technique for relieving anxiety and stress.  All the experts say that, and it's true.  Just getting outside and walking can clear the mind.


Well, I've rambled on and on.  Sorry about that.  Let me just add one more thing, if you decide to try medication, my advice would be to be patient.  Sometimes it takes a few different trials of medication before you find the one that fits.  My doctor explained to me that panick attacks are caused by an overactive fight or flight response in the brain and so SSRI antidepressants like Zoloft or Celexa won't do the trick.  You have to have a NRI (norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor) to calm the response.


I'm not saying you need medicine, but I am saying that you may want to get a handle on it now so you don't have to go through what I did.  I can't even explain how horrible it feels to have your mind spinning of control.  I felt like I was genuinely losing my mind. 


Well, anyway I feel for you and I wish you well.


Be careful if you have a tendency to anxiety/panic. Wellbutrin
people who suffer with anxiety/panic.
Vet called before and after surgery, and assistant called this
this afternoon. I cant wait to see her. She has only been gone for 1 day and as one lady stated, the house is empty. Working from home, I have become quite attached to her and her to me. Thanks for all the well wishes and Boo Boo Kitty thanks you too !!
Daughter's phone is daughter's responsibility. Valuable lesson learned.
It should be between the daughter and the friend if the friend is going to pay any of the fees. They are teenagers, not preschoolers.
I am sure this is not always the case, but
I have had the cashier call me over if there was no one in her line even though I told her I had more than 10 items. She said she hates not having anything to do...Of course, as soon as I am finished loading my stuff here comes someone with 2 things in their hand! :-)
I don't believe this is the case.

Come with your opinions of spooning out meds.  Yoga is a great way to channel stress, but sometimes an SSRI for the long term is better.  As most of us know, if you don't have time to exercise, you will probably not do Yoga either. 


I have come the conclusion that older people are not as understanding of what SSRIs are used to treat.  You are not weak because you have anxiety and/or depression.  Most of the older generation think this is just being lazy.


I'm living proof it is not being lazy, it is an actual condition.  Don't make my mistake and wait until you crash and burn.  I'm still recovering from a severe anxiety attack that occurred almost a year ago.  My mind still raises at night.  My severe anxiety attack was due to a few different stressful situations all occurring at one time.  My brain/body could not tolerate all of that stress.  This field does not allow much in the way of vacations, but knowing what I know now, I take the vacations and DO NOT TAKE THE WORK WITH YOU WHEN YOU GO. 


Believe me, it will be there when you return.  I am still struggling with time off, but I have decided to take two days out of the week where I do not feel the need to WORK! 


Try this OP in addition to seeing your doctor.  Take some time off every week!  You will be amazed how much better you feel.


I want to believe that would be the case (sm)
I really want to believe that would be the case. If I can just get him to cooperate - I would love to be able to be friends with him and raise our children the best we possibly can.
In that case
when you send out invites to anything, I think you should stipulate no gifts. No gifts, no thank you cards. I think not sending a thank you note is just bad manners, no upbringing. I give money to charities and expect no response but an invite and getting gifts, only nice way to handle this.
If that is the case, I think what I have is really
better. If it runs off batteries, can it whisper sweet nothings in your ear, does it give you strokes, talk dirty to you at the appropriate times, etc? If this is no, think I will just stay with my best half.
Unfortunately that is not the case here.
With a family this size there have been a few losses. No one extremely young, but still losses. Like I said they lost her husband about 20 years ago and while there was definite grieving it was not like this at all and his death was very unexpected.
no not the case...
When it is just her and her mom she always calls. She says mom is driving me up the wall today or something to that nature. She loves her mom to death but sometimes they clash. She always talks when her mom is home. I am not JEALOUS. I am concerned because this is not her and I don't understand it. I am looking for opinions on postpartum depression, which if she does have it nothing I can do anyway. All I can do is send her a card and let her know I am there. But I have never seen anyone behave this way after giving birth. I guess there is a first for everything.
In my case, it does.
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in my case
Da#m husband. HA HA HA
Even if that's the case and they do in sm
fact get paid minimum wage (keep in mind, some make less and are expected to supplement with tips), $7.75 is still not an adequate amount added to the cheap $2 tip to make it worth the gas, insurance and wear and tear on one's car.  I stick to my OPINION that $2 is insulting.
In my case,
I'm the one who strayed. It's all my fault, because I married a man who I felt safe with instead of working through childhood traumas before trying to get married. So now I've been married forever and this near-perfect match came along, except for an impossible age difference. It honestly felt like I could not stop myself, though I never thought this would happen to me. The physical part lasted 6 weeks, and the infatuation lasted 6 months before that. I think this one person was unique, but without a good sex life at home, I'm certainly vulnerable to temptation in future. I did not and would not have ended it because I was ecstatically happy.

My husband is a good man, but I think I should divorce him to be fair, but financially it would be a disaster for both of us. Plus he doesn't want to split. All my friends' marriages are at the breaking point also.
Oh, in that case
I don't think I would call. I'd just leave it alone.

That just stinks if he doesn't hear anything though. They should atleast call him back and let him know. I hate when people say "I'll get back to you on Monday" and then don't. If that is the case, he might be better off not working for this guy. Or, you could think of it another way...maybe they are conflictd between 2 applicants and still trying to decide. They should atleast call him back though. That's what the secretary is for! lol
But in this case ...
My dog didn't want anything to do with the technician. If he came in the room, my dog growled and kept backing away from him. I will admit it was kinda neat looking to see the hair standing up on his back.
more on above - as I said in my case - sm
I do trust him BUT I would still wonder....in my case my DH did cheat on his first wife 2-3 x (I'm his 2nd wife--he did not cheat with with me, I did not even know him then, met him 3 years after his divorce) despite his paranoia of STDs, pregnancy, etc, though he was adament about using condoms so that kind of took care of his paranoia I guess. A few months ago my DH all of a sudden wanted me to buy condoms (we don't use a standard BC). I thought it rather odd since we have not used condoms since before the kids were born. I have just kept my eye on them and made sure the numbers have not changed as he has only used 2 of them since I bought them. He travels from time to time so has many the opp to cheat if he really wanted to (he's been out of town now for a month, home on the weekends). So while I trust him I am not blindly accepting that he will not cheat. He knows though if he ever did (and I caught him) I would divorce him over it and make sure I got full custody of the kids to boot, so I think that helps, that and I know he does love me still after 14 years together. So just keep the eyes and ears peeled and look for anything out of the norm. Good luck.
Jan. (in case you are the same jan)

Isn't Gy a unit of measure?


In this case, my DH had been her only - sm
sexual partner ever, and she his at that point. They were high school sweethearts, etc., married when he was 20, she was 19.
Just in case you want to know
I was at the animal shelter 1 day and a man brought in a dog, said it belonged to his son but his son left and the guy could not afford to feed the dog. He was asked if he had ever fed the dog since left there and the answer was yes. The people then informed the man he was legally responsible for the animal and he could be and would be held legally responsible for the dog. As far as their dog being in heat, your dog apparently has not been neutered or else even in heat they could not have mated, right? You have responsibility as a dog owner, also.
Maybe your way is the better way. But every case is different.
I could never ask my children for money. I suppose this is wrong, too.
I just cannot take their money for which they work so hard.
Last not least, I am the mother and them becoming 18 does not change much in the relation.

That is not the case --
My son had never been in my home before (we had not seen each other in 6 months) until last week. The minute he walked in the door and she came into the room, she started barking and growling and behaving in a manner that I had never seen before when a stranger entered my home. It has only gotten worse and I swear to you, he has not been in the house alone with her and she will not go into a room with him. He honestly did nothing to her to start it. Believe me, if he did, we would be estranged for another 6 months! that is why I am so out of ideas.

We have tried everything. He is really upset by it too. He has sat in the floor quietly and not said a word holding snacks for her, he has laid in the floor and not moved while placing the snackes within arm's length, and nothing works. She will not even go close to his shoes at the door without turning around and running back to my office and hiding.

She was not abused as a puppy (she came from family friends), but she did get parvo and have to be in the hospital for a week and I am wondering if something about him reminds her of something there. That is all I can come up with.
until the DNA is done in California (case)....they had

Well I do NOT believe Stern is the father at all........but Bahamian law is vastly diffferent from USA law....unfortunately.  But there is the DNA case in California ongoing......


I think they didn't want Daniel's DNA accessible and is why he is buried in the Bahamas.  However, Larry Birkhead may very well be the father.......so we will all still have to wait until the DNA case is over in California.


Patience............the truth shall prevail..................eventually....even if it takes decades..........it shall surface one day. 


Just in case you didn't know...sm
I initially had the same complaint as you with my Tracfone. About 95% of the time, if I technical issues, etc. and needed to call them, I would get someone who spoke very little English and was incredibly difficult to understand! As you know, extremely frustrating, especially when you are already annoyed with your phone not working.

At any rate, in case you didn't know, a lot of times you can avoid calling the company completely by going to their website at www.tracfone.com (I had the phone for a good 2-3 months before I was made aware of this). You can buy minutes and other accessories, add minutes, etc. The most convenient thing IMO is you can resolve a lot of techical issues online. All you need to do is register your account and go to technical support. There, you will find a list of common error messages. You can also activate or reactivate your phone. Usually any technical issues just involve clicking on the appropriate error message, entering your SIM card #, and you are given code(s) to enter into your phone. You usually do have to wait a few hours for this to go through. However, I still find it much less frustrating than calling the company.

If you already knew this, sorry about the long, drawn out reply, LOL.
The ONLY one I have ever felt for in their case is....

Years of therapy due to what both of her parents have done.  THEY have done it - nobody else - and the child is COMPLETELY innocent at 11....


In these cases, it's only the children who suffer...and these 2 nutcases should definitely know better, not like they are ill-educated and/or ignorant throughout the life.


Evidently they both need parenting classes and anger management classes....they have both created a very bad emotional situation for their daughter and personally she should probably be removed from their homes (possibly placed with a grandparent or some other relative) until these 2 nutcases CHOOSE to get themselves together.


 


I'm not going to jump on your case about this sm

But I wonder why you think these kids need to be told now? Has something happened that makes you think that someone besides their parents might let it slip? If that is the case, then maybe you need to talk to the parents about it and tell them that so-and-so found out and isn't good at keeping secrets, or whatever the case may be.


In any case, if you talk to anyone about this, talk to the parents.


If this was the case, then the doctor
should have had something like this posted in the office.  One would think.  I think $100.00 is a little high for a missed appointment anyway.  The standard is $25.00, but most offices have it clearly posted if that is the case.  Good luck!  Give 'em h-e-l-l------!!!!!!
Probably dust in case
It is very easy to open up case. Just look for some big screws holding case cover on. They usually just spin and you won't need any tools. After you get it off, used canned air to clean out the inside of case. Lots of dust can get on fans, boards, air vents and makes PC heat up.
No. In this case I believe in incompetence.

The rest of the time I believe in incredibly good luck, usually brought about because of someone else's incompetence. 


 


Why the civil case since
your son returned the stuff?

Perhaps something more could be worked out between the store, your son, and the police (or his counselor) so you needn't pay this fine.

In that case, Texas ought to be against also
because their capital punishment rates right up there with Florida and I would bet Texas is definitely into whuppings!
Is someone studying your case? (nm)
x
I might go get it checked, just in case (sm)
With all the pool infections and such going around...has he been swimming in a public pool lately?
Just in case you don't know and can watch
this is what Oprah is about today.
Yes, the case was in Atlanta
The rings he took were from a young, married mother and her husband was relentless in finding out who did this. Not only was he able to recover his wife's rings but others saw the guy on TV and he also had committed crimes against their relatives. I definitely would ask about cameras that might be there. The home should want to assist.
In case nobody mentioned it,
the cat could have a UTI or kidney stones. However, I had a cat that started urinating on the bed because we introduced a dog to the family and she didn't like the dog. Then the littlest thing would set her off, like using the vacuum cleaner, or DH staying out late. DH would come home, flop into bed, and shriek in a most unmanly fashion after landing in cold urine. I talked to a cat behaviorist, who told me to put out 7 different litterpans with all different types of litter. I couldn't live like that.

A second young cat we adopted at about 6 months of age played much too rough with me and with another cat we had. I had to take her back also.


I think she's a verifiable nut-case! Even her own
so many kids. (It's the mom taking care of the 6 she already has, too.) And as soon as she got out of the hospital, Nadia went and started doing all this self-promotion on TV.

I watched the interview, and noticed something rather glaring about her. Her eyes never seemed to match what her mouth was talking about. (Sure sign of lying.)

I think this was all done in the name of publicity and hoping to make money off of it. The doctor was totally irresponsible for implanting her with so many embryos, to begin with, because of her age, number of kids she already has, and financial status. (I wonder who paid the bill for the implantations? I don't think Medi-Cal pays for things like that!)

Also, it was negligent of both the mother and doctor to her her carry all 8 of them. Even if she had 'only' 4, or 3, the chances of prematurity and developmental problems would go way up. I type this stuff every day - all these 'million-dollar babies.' Each one will probably be in the NICU for months, and cost for 8 of them will run in the millions. And that doesn't even take into account all the future assistance they're going to need - speech or physical therapy, IEP's if they have learning disabilities, special classes or schools, special equipment or tubes if they have breathing or feeding problems, the list is endless. And guess who indirectly pays for all of this?

If ever there was a case for MANDATORY STERILIZATION, this nut-job woman is definitely the most deserving.
Where I live that is not the case
All places have hooks and I have been in lots of restaurants as well as the nicer hotels in Las Vegas so don’t know where you are coming from.
Same as in case with my father,
but not of bad mind but insurance policy that he had taken out years before, had no named beneficaries, his wife had died before him, his son and I was the only 1 left (not counting my brother's children) so the money went exclusively to me. This was a policy from probably the 1950s he probably just forgot about. Heck, he had even forgotten about loads of stock that his nephew told him about and he cashed all that in prior to his death in the 2000s. Just a simple case of forgeting, not dementia in his case.