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A panic attack

Posted By: Christina RTMT on 2008-09-09
In Reply to: Not only that but.....sm - Think someone is lying to me

can present as a heart attack, with the same initial symptoms of shortness of breath, chest pain, clammy and sweaty, irregular or rapid heart rate, etc. The first thing done at the hospital would be stat blood work and an EKG.  Depending upon what these showed, then an MRI with or without contrast would be done.  A mandatory 24 hour stay is required for all chest pain admissions. I've been working in a cardiopulmonary dept. as a respiratory care practitioner for 6 years and have seen this many many times.  So if it makes you feel any better, he could be telling the truth about this. 


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When these boys came home from the war, they came back to the farm, by and large. We were an agrarian country and with the exception of east coast, there were hardly any factory jobs and most people worked the land. Plenty of places all over the country people worked on "shares" and they were not all in the deep south and they were not all black. There was not nearly the land/home ownership that there is today. Most of these dirt farmers lived in poverty and barely scraped by enough to eat twice a day. When the great Dust Bowl came through Oklahoma, it took the enormous clouds of dust eastward and dumped it into the Atlantic Ocean. This was a man-made disaster and the story of the Joads in the Grapes of Wrath centers on the Dust Bowl and the farming habits of families, like the Joads caused them problems. It was their fault that the top soil blew across FDR's desk in the Oval Office.

There was no infrastructure to speak of, in those days. There were roadways, but not the spider web of paved roads there are today. Goods were carried on the rails, not over the roads. You didn't have Walmart or Kroger. You had the store "in town" and the Sears-Roebuck catalog. If you couldn't find it there or could not afford it you either cobbled something together or did without. You can look the Coal Miner's Daughter about being so low-down dirt poor it is unbelievable. That movie is quite cleaned up and Hollywood presentable. You could look at the sparse surroundings of the ranch house in Broke Back Mountain where Ennis goes after Jack dies, and while the time frame is more modern, the very plain, only the very basics of life appear in that ranch house. They are both a bit sanitized, but reasonably realistic.

Today, Americans live extraordinarily different lives than we did 80 years ago. Most people have a vehicle. Most people have more than a dirt floor shack to live in. We, have thanks to the Great Depression and FDR's recovery plan, electricity, roads, water, sewage and other sanitation. We take these things for granted, but we should not. The GP did bring some food shortages, not because of the depression, but because of the lack of infrastructure combined with people on the move to find work to subsist. The food shortages you are thinking of came with WWII and rationing...another problem secondary to lack of infrastructure and subsistence farming where there was not enough food produced to meet the need.

If you are going to stock up on food, let be for more common sense reasons. If you put your money in the bank, you will make 2% or 3% return on $500. If you put that same amount into nonperishable food (think canned goods), you make a better return on an investment. You don't earn 2% or 3%, but you can end up leveraging against future price increases that will meet and exceed what interest you make from a bank, which is nothing right now. You will need food whether you buy it now or buy it later. Squirreling away extra under the bed or whatever place you can find room, is a wise investment...financially and in peace of mind.
Right, but dont panic. Thousands die from flu every
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Daughter called, said don’t panic but you know that TB case?

Daughter and husband divorved last year and the guy from Atlanta being treated was the SIL divorce lawyer in October of last year. As she met this guy she was telling me this morning no really close contact (being in a room is close enough for me though), no outward signs of illness on his part.  I did not freak, rather told her to call her doctor. My former SIL has sickle cell disease and he is in the hospital with a flare as we speak. SIL recognized the guy on television, told the personnel at the hospital and now, you guessed it, he is in quarantine. It is really a small world, isnt it?


Remember Me? Caught Between Pride and Panic?

Well, my daughter has been accepted at her #1 college choice, and we're going to the Accepted Students day this weekend. 


In her Creative Writing class in school, they were assigned the task of summing up their Senior year in six words and then to illustrate it. What she came up with blew her father and me away!  I hope those of you who have had children leave home will get an inkling of the emotional impact this had on us. Suffice it to say, there was not a dry eye in the house!  See below.


I would say that you have every reason to have panic attacks what with all the stress you've SM

been under.  I take Effexor XR for my painic attacks and atenolol to help control my BP and it keeps my heart rate down.  The combination works wonderfully, although I wonder if I've become a little too dependent on it as I sometimes get a little anxious at the thought of being without my Effexor.


I would have periodic episodes of anxiousness going all the way back to my teenage years, but I would always work through it myself.  Then a year ago, in the midst of marital trouble and feeling alone as I lived two states away from friends and family, I started having what I now know to be gallbladder pain while I was at work.  In my mind, I knew I wasn't having a heart attack, the pain was in my right rib cage and radiated around to my right scapula.  But I couldn't seem to convince my body.  My heart started racing, my mind was racing.  I felt dizzy and short of breath.  I went to the employee health nurse who took my BP and it was sky high.  She immediately rushed me to the ER which freaked me out even further.


Long story short, I was having a full blown panic attack and I hope that I never experience anything like that again.  I ended up crying for three weeks straight, was afraid be left alone, was afraid to leave my house, couldn't eat, couldn't sleep, would pace the house with my heart racing, not able to calm myself down.


I saw three different doctors before I found a female doctor who listened to me and told me she knew exactly what I was talking about because her daughter had panick attacks too.  She started me on Effexor and set me up with a therapist who taught me breathing techniques and meditation techniques to help calm myself when I feel anxious.  One technique, as simple as it sounds, is something I practice almost daily which is deep breathing:  in through your nose and out through your mouth and as you exhale allow your body to relax starting from the shoulders down.  It seems silly, but it really works.  I noticed that I clenched my jaw a lot and so that is were I focus my mind when I'm trying to relax.  I focus on the tension in my jaw and start relaxing from there down.


Exercise is another great technique for relieving anxiety and stress.  All the experts say that, and it's true.  Just getting outside and walking can clear the mind.


Well, I've rambled on and on.  Sorry about that.  Let me just add one more thing, if you decide to try medication, my advice would be to be patient.  Sometimes it takes a few different trials of medication before you find the one that fits.  My doctor explained to me that panick attacks are caused by an overactive fight or flight response in the brain and so SSRI antidepressants like Zoloft or Celexa won't do the trick.  You have to have a NRI (norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor) to calm the response.


I'm not saying you need medicine, but I am saying that you may want to get a handle on it now so you don't have to go through what I did.  I can't even explain how horrible it feels to have your mind spinning of control.  I felt like I was genuinely losing my mind. 


Well, anyway I feel for you and I wish you well.


Be careful if you have a tendency to anxiety/panic. Wellbutrin
people who suffer with anxiety/panic.
What attack?

No one was attacking anyone's culture, that I could see.  The OP was venting and I quite frankly agree with most of what's said on here.


I'm as liberal and open minded as anyone out there, but I have to tell you that it horked me off to no end when the housekeepers in the hotels I worked for couldn't understand me and what I was asking them to do for a guest because none of them spoke English.  I had potential customers come up to the front desk to try to get a room and then have the nerve to get pissy with me when I didn't speak Spanish.  Hello.  I may be in New Mexico, but it's still the freaking United States.


I have worked for ESL doctors who were very aware that they had an accent and went to the trouble to spell words for me that they prounced differently.  I loved those doctors.  I have also worked for other ESLs who sped through it like many domestic docs do, had the phone or the recorder on the other end of the desk, and quite frankly didn't give a rat's butt if what was on the other end understood them or not.  Those doctors got back exactly what they gave me - garbage.


I have to say, my sister told me that Slumdog Millionaire was a great movie.  I have no desire to see it..................call me prejudiced, but I don't want to hear the accents if I don't have to.


Am I having an anxiety attack?
Okay, this has happened a few times now lately.  I do have a lot of stress, but I don't think it is more than anyone else.  I fell like I can't sit still, very antsy (sm), my shoulders and neck feel like they are being pulled/stretched.  Sitting in this chair I have to keep rocking.  It's the can't sit still that is driving me nuts.  The more I try to stop it the worse it gets.  Try transcribing with this.  What can I do to get past it?  I'm was trying to go to sleep and couldn't lie still in the bed.  If I truly focus on something I can get a few minutes of peace, but it doesn't last.  Can anyone help?
No attack on a zoo keeper
She didn't attack the keeper a year ago - she chewed on his arm when he was feeding her, in other words, being a tiger. She probably thought the arm was part of the food he was giving her. They changed their feeding technique after that incident.
Heart Attack!

Let's say it's 6.15pm and you're driving home (alone of course) after an unusually hard day on the job.


You're really tired, and frustrated……


YOU ARE REALLY STRESSED AND UPSET ….


Suddenly you start experiencing severe pain in your chest that starts to radiate out into your arm and up into your jaw.


You are only five miles from the hospital nearest your home.


Unfortunately you don't know if you'll be able to make it that far


WHAT TO DO??


YOU HAVE BEEN TRAINED IN CPR, BUT THE GUY THAT CONDUCTED THE COURSE DID NOT TELL YOU HOW TO PERFORM IT ON YOURSELF !!!


HOW TO SURVIVE A HEART ATTACK WHEN ALONE?


SINCE MANY PEOPLE ARE ALONE WHEN THEY SUFFER A HEART ATTACK, WITHOUT HELP, THE PERSON WHOSE HEART IS BEATING IMPROPERLY AND WHO BEGINS TO FEEL FAINT, HAS ONLY ABOUT 10 SECONDS LEFT BEFORE LOSING CONSCIOUS


WHAT TO DO??
 
 


ANSWER:


DO NOT PANIC, BUT START COUGHING REPEATEDLY AND VERY VIGOROUSLY.


A DEEP BREATH SHOULD BE TAKEN BEFORE EACH COUGH, THE COUGH MUST BE DEEP AND PROLONGED, AS WHEN PRODUCING SPUTUM FROM DEEP INSIDE THE CHEST.


A BREATH AND A COUGH MUST BE REPEATED ABOUT EVERY TWO SECONDS WITHOUT LET-UP UNTIL HELP ARRIVES, OR UNTIL THE HEART IS FELT TO BE BEATING NORMALLY AGAIN.


DEEP BREATHS GET OXYGEN INTO THE LUNGS AND COUGHING MOVEMENTS SQUEEZE THE HEART AND KEEP THE BLOOD CIRCULATING. THE SQUEEZING PRESSURE ON THE HEART ALSO HELPS IT REGAIN NORMAL RHYTHM. IN THIS WAY, HEART ATTACK VICTIMS CAN GET TO A HOSPITAL


ARTICLE PUBLISHED ON N.º 240 OF JOURNAL OF GENERAL HOSPITAL ROCHESTER


TELL AS MANY OTHER PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE ABOUT THIS.


IT COULD SAVE THEIR LIVES !!! DON'T EVER THINK THAT YOU ARE NOT PRONE TO HEART ATTACK AS YOUR AGE IS LESS THAN 25 OR 30. NOWADAYS DUE TO THE CHANGE IN THE


LIFE STYLE, HEARTATTACK IS FOUND AMONG PEOPLE OF ALL AGE GROUPS.


Pitbull Attack!?!?
This is a newspaper clipping from an attack that happened locally. When you read it you think to yourself "Oh my gosh! another pitbull attack" and it sounds like it is the dog's fault right? It is pretty convincing. THIS is what the public reads. What you DON'T KNOW is that the owner of this dog was training this dog to be mean, yes even with him having kids he was training the dog to be mean. And you ask how do I know this? It's because I was at the vet's office when they brought this dog in & this wasn't the first time they had a problem with this owner training dogs to be mean, and this was out of the vet's mouth himself. So because of this owner's training that he wouldn't admit to doing sadly there was a dog attack as a result and the dog had to be put down, but yet everybody will go on thinking "oh another vicious pitbull".
Ask sis what she will do when dogs attack a child, which is the
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Still have your GB? Sis thought she was having a heart attack
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Is it fair to attack her parenting?
I thought Christians weren't supposed to judge. Is it because she *let* her daughter make her own decision to become atheist? I can't stand hypocrisy. It's what starts wars.
Sorry, actually "when paparazzi attack" . . nm
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You say pits were bred to attack...sm
They were. But they were bred to attack dogs not humans. One thing the unscrupulous people who bred these dogs did right was breed them to not be human aggresssive. Because when they were in the ring with the dogs they couldn't be worried about the dogs attacking them. So they wanted a dog that wasn't aggressive towards humans. I have done research and read this to be true. That doesn't mean all pits are not human aggressive. There may be some that are but it wasn't bred into them.
I had a 30-hour gallbladder attack, and
it was rough. I'd just been diagnosed with stones and then had the attack. I had to wait a few days before my scheduled surgery.

My surgeon told me his story. His abdominal pain started and 3 hours later, he was checked and his GB was already gangrenous. What if yours is?
Don't bash or attack me for that, but wasn't
AIDS a consequence of this 'lifestyle' or am I missing here something?
I would fake a heart attack before I put myself into that situation. Don't let me get sm
started on in-laws. I can't stand mine either. Ohh, it's bad. Hey, at least you have 1 who is a nuisance - I have 3! All DH's sisters...We are going to a friends (REAL friends) for Thanksgiving this year. My DH finally smartened up to their nonsense and really don't want to be around them either, thankfully. Good luck. My heart goes out to you because I know how you feel. There will be many on this board who will tell you to "go, put a smile on your face," and obviously they've never been where you and I have been. Good luck in whatever you do and know that you are NOT alone. I can't stand evil, hateful, jealous, condescending, rude people one bit. My life is too precious to deal with mess like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SIL was having heart attack "pain" that turned out to be
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sounds like a menopause sneak attack
Your call on how to handle it, but it sounds hormonally motivated to me....the crying inappropriately about a child you are not raising kind of gives it away.
A heart attack and cardiac arrest are 2 ....sm
different things. Cardiac arrest simply means the heart stops. It can be caused by many things. Overdosing, mixing drugs, hearrt attack, etc. I have read a lot about Elvis' death. He had cardiac arrest BUT it was because of an overdose. The autopsy results today on MJ said his heart was okay as far as a heart condition or clogged arteries, etc. Something made his heart stop beating and sent him into cardiac arrest. I used to think cardiac arrest was the same thing as a heart attack. Upon reading into it further it is not. A heart attack could cause cardiac arrest I guess. In MJ's case, according to the medical examiner, he did not have a heart attack, per se. So now they will look into toxicology to look for drugs, etc. in his system that could have caused the cardiac arrest. You know, I read just today, Demerol when mixed with other drugs it shouldn't be mixed with can cause cardiac arrest. When they obtained a search warrant a few years back for Neverland Ranch looking for evidence for the molestation charges, they found syringes and Demerol then. I am willing to bet too many drugs sent him into cardiac arrest. :)
Just heard, Michael Jackson had heart attack?
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