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as well as the ones that answered this!

Truly a horrible turn of events for you.  Two deaths of loved ones so close together.  Lean on the one who tells us to bring our cares to Him.   It is believed  by many that it would be limiting God to teach that this life is the only time that God can call a person to Himself.  Second resurrection may be the answer.   Also preaching to souls in prison, think about why they would need to be preached to, if these were evil spirits, not human spirits, what good would it do to preach to them?God is a God of love and your family members are in His hands. 

Re suicide, no sane person can take their own life. no matter how "rational" they make it sound.  Those who do kill themselves are not responsible for the sin of murder because they are so sick.  

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- By keeping your car for 15 years, or 225,000 miles of driving, you could save nearly $31,000, according to Consumer Reports magazine. That's compared to the cost of buying an identical model every five years, which is roughly the rate at which most car owners trade in their vehicles.

In its annual national auto survey, the magazine found 6,769 readers who had logged more than 200,000 miles on their cars. Their cars included a 1990 Lexus LS400 with 332,000 miles and a 1994 Ford Ranger pick-up that had gone 488,000 miles.
 
Consumer Reports calls the Honda Civic a "Good bet" to make it to 200,000 miles.

Calculating the costs involved in buying a new Honda Civic EX every five years for 15 years - including depreciation, taxes, fees and insurance - the magazine estimated it would cost $20,500 more than it would have cost to simply maintain one car for the same period.

Consumer Reports' "Good bets" for making 200,000 miles: Honda Civic, Honda CR-V, Honda Element, Lexus ES, Lexus LS, Toyota 4Runner, Toyota Highlander, Toyota Land Cruiser, Toyota Prius, Toyota RAV4

Consumer Reports' "Bad bets" for making 200,000 miles: BMW 7-series, Infiniti QX56, Jaguar X-type, V8-powered Mercedes-Benz M-class, Mercedes-Benz SL, Nissan Armada, Nissan Titan, Volkswagen Touareg, V6-powered Volvo XC90.

We actually do have the death penalty in PA...it is just not used that often. 

It does turn out to be true in a lot of families. So...we have Ed McMahnon (sp), Farrah, and now Michael. If no one died within the next couple days (I think that is also 3),  it should be okay.

Dang! I haven't felt this bad since Elvis died.

Would you watch someone being executed by lethal injection?  What if he murdered your brother?   Your child?  or anyone else close to you?

I know there is no right or wrong answer to this.  I will have to make this decision myself and it's been in my head lately.  I may not know my decision until the day of.

They should have to pay for pain and suffering because most of us treat our animals like our children.  This is not fair.

I'm sorry to all who have lost their pet to this horrible thing that has happened.  They should have to pay and pay deeply!!! 

What do you think is worse?

I would think being locked in a jail cell for life, with the key thrown away is MUCH worse, than ending their life.

Can you imagine sitting in a cold jail cell, no windows, no tv, no books, no paper and pen, just a room, w/ a toilet, a cot, and bare minimum food to keep you alive.

I think that is worse.

I know some of you weren't even born or were toddlers, but for us older folks, I was just curious where you were when you heard the news that Elvis had died.

I was working in a very small factory pasting crystals in a base for radios (gee - what a job that was!) making $1.85 an hour and that was with shift differential. Anyway, I was working 2nd shift & heard the news just as I pulled into the parking lot. My supervisor cried all night and the plant manager played Elvis albums on the overhead speaker all night.

Just thought it would be interesting to see where everybody was.

Posted Jan 4th 2009 10:45AM by TMZ Staff

There's a conflict brewing between the Bahama PD and John Travolta's camp regarding the time line of Jett Travolta's death.

People who are with Travolta are bristling at the suggestion Jett might have been left unattended for more than 10 hours, but this morning cops say they are sticking to their story. Meanwhile, we've learned Jett had suffered from grand mal seizures in the past and had taken anti-seizure medicine which the Travolta's say did not work, so the medication was stopped.

As for the time line, we're told Jett, his family and his two nannies had been boating on January 1. They returned to their townhouse at the Old Bahama Bay Hotel at around 6 PM. Jett was tired, went into his bedroom and went to sleep.

We're told nanny Jeff Kathrein watched TV in the adjoining room. The other nanny, Eli, returned to the townhouse at around 11:30 PM. Both Jeff and Eli turned in at around that time. After Jeff got up, he went into the bathroom and discovered Jett laying on the floor.

As for when Jett was last seen, cops say it was the at around 11:30 the night of January 1, when he went to the bathroom. Michael McDermott, John Travolta's lawyer and close friend, says Eli or Jeff may have gone into that bathroom during the middle of the night so the time frame would have been compressed.

McDermott also tells TMZ when Jeff and John Travolta administered CPR there may have been signs of life -- as in there may have been some respiratory function -- though that is not confirmed.

We're told Jett's disabilities included the inability to communicate well, in addition to some physical disabilities. As a result, there was a baby monitor in his room as well as a chime on the bathroom door. It's unclear if the two nannies slept through any signs of movement. The townhouse is relatively small -- around 1,000 square feet -- and the nannies and Jett were all on the bottom floor.

McDermott told us it's not unusual for Jett to sleep 12, even 16 hours a day, so Jett not being present is not unusual.

As for cause of death, the coroner will presumably determine that tomorrow.

As for John Travolta and Kelly Preston, McDermott tells us "they stopped crying long enough last night to try to write a press statement, which they haven't finished."

That's unreal. I would be interested to hear his explanation after your phone call. If you cancelled the appointment you should not have been billed, much less that amount. Good luck with that one!  

we lived in South Carolina, and his daycare center asked me to sign a form giving them permission to spank him if he misbehaved.  He was a BABY and they wanted to spank him!  Holy Cow!  I refused to sign it and took my son out of their daycare, but it was legal there (this was 14 years ago...not sure what the law is now).  But I was shocked.

I'm not anti-spanking...I just think only a parent should be able to spank their child.  Definitely not someone who doesn't love your child and who may be too heavy handed.

Chickadee