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I hear ya on the working-to-death thing.

Posted By: see/msg on 2009-06-19
In Reply to: Needing A Mental/Emotional Jump Start - LONGLONG POST Feeling The Pressure

My younger brother doesn't live in a dump, but he and his wife have no visible means of support. They have a really nice, 4-bedroom condo (even with no kids) in a nice part of town. They've been to Europe. They take several Carnival Cruises per year down to Acapulco, Cancun, etc. He quit his job like 4 or 5 years ago. He claims they're living off his savings, but I find that hard to believe. He only worked at that job for about 5 years, how much savings could he have? Certainly not enough to support a rather cushy lifestyle and a huge, 2-story, almost-new condo.

MT has soured me on working, period. I'm sick of it. Every day I'm more and more tempted to just drop out of MT, collect unemployment, and just see what happens. My motivation got up and went quite a few years ago.


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as well as the ones that answered this!


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Autopsies have to be done very very soon after death.
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Dang! I haven't felt this bad since Elvis died.


LOL - guess you are bored to death too then :)
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Well, what does 'til death do us part' mean anymore then? If you take the oath, sm
loser or not, you are husband and wife and I certainly don't take that lightly. If he didn't cheat on her or vice versa, then he and she should have done everything in their power to make it work for the children. She's probably post-partum, humiliated at his 'lack of success,' and after 2 years of marriage, according to prenups - would have been ordered to pay and astronomical amount of money and they were just approaching their 2 years. Talk about timing!

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Sure is true. I thought I typed enough to bore you all to death!
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