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I agree with this. I drive all my cars to death.

Posted By: sm on 2007-09-03
In Reply to: Drive your car to death - save $31,000

I've been married 23 years, and between the hubby and I, we've had four new cars in all that time, five if you want to count the car he brought into the marriage with him, which was a couple of years old at the time. For me, I had a 1986 Aerostar van which I bought new and drove to death, and now have a 1998 Windstar van with 110,000 miles on it, plus a really cool custom Yakima rack for my kayaks! We do buy all of our cars new, and it's lovely to have long stretches without any car payments, like right now. DH is driving a 2001 Taurus. But he's got lots of miles on that due to long commute to work and traveling to clients. Bought that one with no money down at 0% because my hubby, a CPA, loved the idea of free money. So that was the biggest car loan we ever had, but the loan cost us nothing. The Taurus has about 160,000 on it, and DH is starting to warm to the idea of replacing it. We're considering either a camry hybrid to save on gas, or a nice sturdy Volvo, because statistics show that Volvos average almost 20 years on the road.


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Drive your car to death

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- By keeping your car for 15 years, or 225,000 miles of driving, you could save nearly $31,000, according to Consumer Reports magazine. That's compared to the cost of buying an identical model every five years, which is roughly the rate at which most car owners trade in their vehicles.


In its annual national auto survey, the magazine found 6,769 readers who had logged more than 200,000 miles on their cars. Their cars included a 1990 Lexus LS400 with 332,000 miles and a 1994 Ford Ranger pick-up that had gone 488,000 miles.
 
Consumer Reports calls the Honda Civic a "Good bet" to make it to 200,000 miles.


Calculating the costs involved in buying a new Honda Civic EX every five years for 15 years - including depreciation, taxes, fees and insurance - the magazine estimated it would cost $20,500 more than it would have cost to simply maintain one car for the same period.


Consumer Reports' "Good bets" for making 200,000 miles: Honda Civic, Honda CR-V, Honda Element, Lexus ES, Lexus LS, Toyota 4Runner, Toyota Highlander, Toyota Land Cruiser, Toyota Prius, Toyota RAV4


Consumer Reports' "Bad bets" for making 200,000 miles: BMW 7-series, Infiniti QX56, Jaguar X-type, V8-powered Mercedes-Benz M-class, Mercedes-Benz SL, Nissan Armada, Nissan Titan, Volkswagen Touareg, V6-powered Volvo XC90.


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we got old cars too...sm

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P.S. I'm not into gas guzzing cars either.
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You should have no problem getting a home loan for that amount ANYWHERE. They will probably try to jack up the interest rate because of your bad credit score, but don't let them. Bargain with them and if they won't deal, tell them you'll go to the bank next door. Get them down to 6.5% or less if you can.


Good luck!


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It looks fun to drive, too! -- nm

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Umm,,,,,,,,death! nm
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What do you think about the lupus, do you think that had something to do with her death?
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That's prey drive for you.
With Siberian huskies, I know all about that. Sasha has been known to catch birds, moles and squirrels. Misha got herself a rabbit once. I could see how proud she was, marching through the living room with it before taking it back outside. No I don't like it, but then again there are also hawks and snakes trying to get them also, even in my yard.

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Then it is worth a drive. I'm sure you will have a
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And why do they have to drive in packs?
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How to drive them all crazy
I put random numbers and/or letters on the presents not to be revealed until Christmas morning, so no one knows whose is whose.  Gives me lots of chuckles year after year! 
We were not celebrating her death,
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Was married to a man with zero drive sm

I mean, he seemed to have some drive in the very beginning, but after about a year he seemed to have no drive at all!  He would constantly complain about being tired...even after spending the entire weekend asleep on the couch.  He took antidepressants and it didn't help.  He took sleeping pills to help him sleep more deeply, didn't help and it wasn't so he would be "up" for fun either.  Hottie lingerie didn't work.  NOTHING WORKED.


We are divorced for some years.  When my oldest child was a teenager and would stay over at dad's with the new wife, he frequently heard his stepmother whine to his dad about always been too tired for relations and he didn't seem interested in it at all.  I thought...mmm...same argument new wife!  It wasn't me!!!


I have talked to enough of my friends to understand that some men lose interest or perhaps they lack any kind of a drive anymore.  This is why my friends and I all agree that you need a younger man so that when his interest peeters out you'll be slacking off too.  LOL


Why not drive down to your parents on
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grandparent's death
I think you should tell them.  My first close loss was my grandfather was when I was 12.  It was actually unexpected.  I believe they are old enough to understand and they would probably be more disappointed if someone slipped up and said something or they overheard it rather than being told up front.  That way they can have some time to process it and hopefully can enjoy the time they have left with their grandfather.  Please know you and your family have been lifted in my prayers.
I would not drive after drinking it!
Use in place of wine:)
drive it until it dies!!!
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When you said get a decent car that will last you the rest of your life, what car at 4K will do that?? I dont think you should close your IRA until you have no other choice you know? unless do you have other savings? He isn't working now? you owe all kinds of other things? I mean... think about it. You already know the answer dont you!! :)
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No, had no idea until her death
Didn't know she was sick until we got the call she had died.
No, had no idea until her death
Didn't know she was sick until we got the call she had died.
No, had no idea until her death
Didn't even know she was sick until we got the call she had died.