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Flash forward: If the bullied child goes postal some day,

Posted By: the BULLY will be the first one shot. -nm on 2008-05-08
In Reply to: That's horrible. OP--Don't follow this poster's example. - You did the right thing.




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Flash back: Going postal? That's so 1990s...

I don't believe anyone should be bullied
for any reason and should not be tolerated in any way!.  My son is gay and I am very proud of him and he's an incredible person.  He goes to a high school where there are many gay students and has had abolutely no problems at all, I'm relieved to say.  In fact, he is very popular and is an exceptional student.  My heart breaks for any child that has to deal with the narrow-minded thinking that seems to be so prevalent in our society.  This current presidential compaign is a prime example of how many haters exist in this country.
I was bullied in school growing up
My mom contacted the bully's mom and the mom asked her daughter if he had been doing what I said. Her daughter said no and she said to my mom I believe my child.
News flash, most of us have had S-E-X. Nothing gross about it.

What are we, in kindergarten here?  Geez, the OP was simply celebrating the fact that she had a millineum baby.  There was nothing graphic about her post.  She didn't give a blow by blow description of the conception process.  I'm sure a lot of people ring in the new year in bed.


I think it's time for you and your parents to have THE talk! 


Bra till hubby gets home, then I flash him!
  Of course, other than his palms for support!!!!!!    -  LOL
News flash: NO birth control is 100% effective.

Maybe she was on birth control. Who knows?  The Spears' do not seem like intelligent people to me, so maybe she wasn't smart enough to be on birth control, but remember that even the pill is only 99% effective when taken perfectly, and I imagine most women forget a pill every now and then, which lowers its effectiveness even more.  I hope and pray my kids don't have children at a young age, but if they do I will accept their children with open arms and try to be the best grandma I can be.  Much of life is about making the best of a bad situation.  Not everything is picket fences and roses.


I'm more forward ...
I would call the nephew and tell them that I had not extended the invitation to he nor his friends, that I am hosting others this year. I would suggest to him that he learn to be a more pleasant guest and tell him (politely and calmly) why.

If he showed up, I would not answer the door.

I would also follow up with my invited guests as an "RSVP" inquiry to make sure you are set for those individuals plus your own immediately family only. I would make it clear you are only expecting those individuals. If they call and ask about the nephew coming, I would state that he had been invited last year and maybe next year you can accommodate he and his buddies but not this year - and he has been made aware of this when he tried to invite himself.

I would not be the slightly bit cool or hateful in my tone but just be very nice and simply state the facts.

Before anyone jumps down my throat, I've raised my boys - I know how a couple of their friends behaved at my home. I did the same with those 2 boys and 1 of them settled down and actually became a great guest. The other, well let's just say he was not interested in being someone we would want around here.

As the host, I believe you have the right to have those you invite, are prepared for, and to have your guests respect the host. It sounds like the nephew and buddies need to learn a little lesson and I would initiate the lesson as above. Whether it is absorbed or finished is up to them.

Good luck!

Oh please, is there a way I can forward this? nm
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Believe it or not, looking forward to being 66!
Ladies, this age comes before you know it. Seems like yesterday I was in high school and now time to draw my retirement- not stopping work- just drawing the money I have put in. I am such a happy girl- I have really worked over the years- the first year showing was when I was a senior in high school. I have worked many, many jobs, at least 2 at 1 time and it now is paying off. Lacking $76.00, I will get home with $2,000 a month - aint that grand! My daughter is returning to college for 2 more courses she needs to take for her job and I can fund that and would love to take my husband on an Alaskian cruise but he is a stay-at-home and would rather spend his vacations around the house. I will think of some place he should love, perhaps tell him about the good food in Italy and get him there! Time just flies when you're having fun....
Thanks for those words, yes, I am looking forward - sm
to some road trips next Spring and Summer; and maybe this Fall as well. This one sounds just like what you had; same set up inside, beds pull out, bed over the table, whole thing cranks up with a turn handle on the outside. It does have a stove, sink/water; with the hook up outside. Very basic but what else do you really need. Probably cook outside most of the time anyways (have a portable coleman grill too) and I have camp training from Brownies too as a co-leader so open fire cooking is not a problem. We have laptops for movies if necessary to have the kids chill with while we chill outside maybe; and for comfort will put in AC/heat eventually, but we would never use it it the heat of the summer probably, more Spring and Fall so we can do w/o the AC. My DH is so excited about this, as I said he has been really wanting to do this for years. He never got to do anything with his parents (they never went on any summer vacations) so he is like a kid all over when he gets to do things he never did before. I am hoping now that we did get this maybe to do a road trip next summer for at least a week, maybe the Smoky mountains down in TN(after we have AC), or head to NY or maybe Maine, go places we have never been and do whatever. It is getting poured on right now so I will find out tomorrow when I pick it up if it has any leaks at least!
Pay it Forward - let's revive it!
With the economy as it is, I was thinking it would be really great to revive the "Pay It Forward Idea" or the "Random Acts of Kindness" idea. If we could all commit to do something nice for someone we wouldn't have done otherwise with in the next week, and ask them to "Pay It Forward" think of how many people would be affected? It doesn't have to be anything involving money, it can be anything that helps the person in some way or brightens their day.  Please say yes!?
I hear ya! I need something to look forward to.
I like to take day trips, Shipshewana, Metamorra, community events where people sell things on the street. Not my husband, that's the last place he wants to be. I've done these things with my sister and my kids in the past. After not going to any of those types of places the last five years, no one wants to go with me next week. So, I'm going by myself.

Just Saturday, I told my husband I was going next week. He asked if the girls were going (they are 16 and 14) and I said nope, I'm going by myself. Kind of scary, but by golly I'm going to do it. I now have something to look forward to!
thanks to both of you! i look forward to getting to know him more and will try to posts occasionall
just had to earn more income this week as it is last paycheck before christmas and i have done absolutely NO shopping. guess i'll be the fool in the crowd on christmas eve. just had to share a funny though as i was explaining diff between acute care/clinics i mentioned macros in the breezing. i am now in the process of helping his office MT girls and docs set up some macros for the docs, LOL. they are inhouse, 2 MTs for 6 FM MDs. i'll make sure to invite everyone on MTstars to the wedding!!!! haha, have a hard work day!!
anybody looking forward to todays Dr. Phil???

cant wait, mine comes on in 1 hour...central time..


Several have come forward to plaster their face on TV
and apparently he inappropriately touched some of them so yes he is on the wanted list. You would think by the time women get to be, oh say 17 or 18, that they would have the sense to know when something really wrong as in this case. One lady shown long enough in the tooth to know much better!!
Do you still love him??!!! Looking forward to life w/o him
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Thank goodness for fast forward on DVR! - sm
One word - LAME!!
POLL:What show are you looking forward to this fall?

I just Netflixed the first season of Friday Night Lights and I am HOOKED! What a wonderful show.  I can't wait for that to start.


Also, looking forward to Gray's Anatomy, but hoping for a much lighter season this fall.  Last year was such a drag after the first two.


Wow, apparently you have not heard of paying it forward. nm
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Should say the child found in Florida proved to be the Caylee child, homicide.
NM
Thanks for the happy thoughts, but I'm really looking forward to Jan. 2nd and back to normalcy. n
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Getting the stick sounds pretty straight forward to me
You could talk to someone at the school, tell them what you know, what you plan on doing, and see what kind of support becuase they may suspect problems but don't have facts.

I admit sometimes it seems easier just to look the other way, but what if there was someone that could have helped Caylee Anthony and "looked the other way". Follow your instincts.

If your suspicious prove unfounded you are out nothing but a "friend". He doesn't seem like someone I would want to be friends with and if his child acts the way you say, I wouldn't encourage a friendship between the boys.
C'mon, It's a mail forward, I didn't write it myself.
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I never forward things based on threats or promises of luck. (sm)
I forward things that I like the message on sometimes but not because I am told to forward it.
Yes, with my second child.
He is now 13 and has never had any problems. Just pray, God will work it all out for you and I will keep you in my prayers also.
Tell me a little about your child, please
Thanks.
Thank God. Having your child taken would be the
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As a child...
I never sucked my thumb and never had a pacifier. I had crowding of teeth as an adult because of wisdom teeth pushing on them. It really is the size/shape of your mouth/palate that determines crooked teeth, and that is determined by genetics.
More than one child
We were planning on only having one child, but 10 years later (she's almost 4 now) we did have a second one which I of course don't regret for a minute. The only thing I can say is don't listen to those that say you have to have a second child. That's all I heard for years. How can yo just have one, and on and on. It's nobody's business but you and your husband.
Yes, have gone since I was a child.
My kids also go, ages 20, 17 and 15.   It fills my spiritual tank for the week and our pastor is so wonderful and uplifting and we have a fabulous congregation. I don't feel right if I miss a week.
No H is an only child LOL.
That is probably what the problem is too.  No other children to dote on. 
A dog is not a child and has different
needs from a child. But even a child is put in a bassinet to sleep in when they are small to control how much they roll around. Then later they are put in a crib. Is that a cage for you too? Or do you put the child on a full-size mattress and hope for the best? No, you carefully listen to all the rules about safe mattresses for infants and how soon pillows can be used and what position is safest for an infant.

For dogs, you need to get to know them before you give them free reign of the house. Otherwise they might get into something we didn't think of to put up and die. This dog is in the age range of 12-18 months. We can already tell he is inquisitive. We don't know how much time he has spent in a house because he was abandoned at the shelter. We will observe him and train him and grant him more freedoms as he proves himself ready.

Dogs in the wild use dens. You are misinformed, probably by PETA folks who would have you release your Yorkshire terrier to the wild to fend for itself if they had their druthers.
I was 29, he's my only child
before I had him I had two miscarriages in the same year (when I was 28). He is almost 13. I'm in downstate NY and at his school school (it's a Catholic school) many of his classmates' parents are at least as old as I am. Hope to get married soon but probably too late for another..
of course he is my child
I have his age wrong though. He is 31. How on earth can I or should I stop him from stating his own opinion? It is certainly not unusual for an 18-year-old male to use the word, even when talking about his evil GM. He was 18 when dear G'ma died. I'm telling you, the woman was evil, evil, evil!!!! Even my ex-DH (is there such a thing) didn't like her. The only reason my older son liked her was because he was the first grandchild and she worshipped him. When my SIL had 2 kids, they were okay for a while, then she didn't want to mess with them either. She liked dogs and cats more than people. And, by the way, I am really relating to all of you out there who go to your MIL's for all the holidays and not your mom's. I did that also, because I dearly loved my FIL and my SIL, BIL, etc. If I had it to do over again, I think I would have shared a little more. My mom is only 70, but no one is promised tomorrow. We do all holidays together now.
Right - I don't think they should take the child because (sm)
no matter what, children love their parents and would be traumatized to be taken away from them, so unless they are being terribly mistreated, I don't think they should ever be taken. Children who go thru life in foster homes are rarely ever happy. But Social Services could go in and help them get things cleaned up if that is why. It may not be, but in my case that was the problem. I eventually at about age 11 or 12 went out and bought bug spray and sprayed my hair and brushes and sprayed my PILLOW regularly to keep the bugs away. I am sure that was horrible for my health but I was desperate.
Because he's still YOUR CHILD, and he still needs to know he is welcome. nm
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child with SVT. sm
Hi.  My 16-year-old son is suspicious for SVT.  Anyone else experience this?  I had made an appointment for March, and now the doc is calling me and wants to see my son next week.  He has already had an echo and an event monitor.  Don't know if I should be freaked out or not. 
Yes, first child....nm
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Would you have said anything about this child?
I was at a very big market (international) this morning and as I exited the lunch room to retrieve my cart, saw a very young child alone in a cart with no one around. I stood there not moving for several minutes wondering where a parent might be. I could not even see a person in front or back of him that seemed to be paying attention to this child (probably around 3 or 4 years of age). The serving line in front does have glass so I could see the people buying their lunches. Finally I noticed a man that was looking around frequently at the child and finally he got through the line and came and picked the child up. I approached him to say how it is so easy for a person to snatch his child (John Walsh's on AMW had his young child snatched and killed in similar, only taking a second) and this man looked annoyed and said thank you for your thoughts and hurried away. Clearly child endangerment here but would you have said anything or just let it go?
How do you know it was actually his child?
That's what's scary.
I have a child like this...

(This turned out long.  Please stick with me.)


Like your son, it started in infancy.  He could throw a fit that could go on for 30 minutes.  If it was related to going to sleep, he would cry for hours no matter what I tried.  (Yes, i did have him ruled out for medical causes.)  He just could not calm himself down and he wanted what he wanted when he wanted it.  It started to feel like a war zone and the other kids were not getting the attention they needed because I felt like I had to deal with his bad behavior all the time.


When he was very young (infancy to about 3 years old), I would let him throw his fits and try to ignore them.  After about 30 minutes, I picked him up and rocked him and he always seemed to be relieved and would start to calm down.  I did not give into his demands.  It just was a way for him to know that I loved him even when he acted bad.


But you know what... A few months ago (he is 5 now), he was acting up yet again and I tried to talk to him.  I told him that I knew he was a good boy and that he was just having a hard time with his anger.  He was totally blown away that I thought he was a "good boy."  In his head, he thought he was bad.  This was an eye opener for me.


Because I had my own issues with frustration, I decided to work on me first.  I was sick of the war zone.  That is still a work in progress, but I feel a lot more calm when dealing with him now.


I explain things to him up front.  If we are going to a store, I tell him that I expect him to stand still by me.  If he wants to look at something, he can ask me, etc.  Then I ask him what he thinks the consequence will be if he does not mind.  Sometimes he answers, sometimes not.  Then, I tell him exactly what will happen.  No favorite TV channel or no playing with a favorite toy, something like that.  Just so he knew exactly what would happen if he makes certain CHOICES.  I also don't argue.  It only gets me wound up.  I put the onus back on him.  Counting 1...2...3 gives him a warning to change his behavior or deal with consequences.


I also communicate a lot about other's people reactions to when he "acts good" and "acts bad."  How the things that happen to him are often influenced by his CHOICES.   "Other children may not want to play with someone who ...only wants their way ... does not share ... hits."  "If you share your toy, your friend probably want to share his toys with you."


I praise him when I notice he has done something "good", like brushing his teeth without being reminded.  I tell how much I appreciate it (Because I do.  When you have 3 kids, its a really help when they can do something for themselves.) Someone knowledgeable told me the ratio of praise to discipline is 4:1.  I doubt that I hit that ratio, but I do look for things my kids do right.


None of this is easy for me.  I feel like I am talking myself blue in the face.  I am naturally quiet and not always willing to communicate verbally.  I'm praying the more I communicate now, then eventually I won't have to talk so much later.  Or at least, we can talk about more pleasant things.


I will say though that my son is starting to understand that he will not always get his way, and if he cooperates with me, I am willing to cooperate with him.  There has been good improvement since I started with this in April.


from a child
My son used to say mazagine and hangaburger instead of magazine and hamburger when he was about 3. I loved that. Not common to most people but it was common to him. :)
If this was MY child??? sm
I would be working my way up the food chain at that school. Who in the he!! at that school thinks they know what my child needs or doesn't need? The last I knew, raising children is up to the parents; not the school, not the state, and CERTAINLY NOT A LESBIAN TEACHER!! I was so upset when I just READ the story that it was all I could do to stop myself from sitting down and writing a letter to the school and giving them a piece of my mind.

To any and all parents in that school district...the threat of recall is an extremely potent weapon. Use it!!
I only have one child, a son..sm
so that helps. I usually spend about $300 on my son, but this year I have spent $400 already on a playstation 3 he has wanted ever since they came out last year. I can't just give him that so I have to buy him some other little things to open. My mom and mother-in-law and sister-in-law are going to buy playstation 3 games because after spending $400 on it I can't buy the games too, which are about $60 each. So I still have to buy some small things for him so I will probably spend about $500 on my son this year. The most I have ever spent on him and he is 10. Like I said it is usually no more than $300. I try to spend no more than $100 on my husband, but this year I know he has said how he would love to have an ipod. So I am going to buy one for about $150. I have my dad to buy for and mom. I know I will probably spend about $50 on my mom. My dad I am not sure yet. In-laws are usually about $20-25 each. My sister about $25. My brother in law about $20. My 2 nephews about $20 each. I also have a niece I will spend about $20-30 on. I try to spend a little more on my niece because my sister in law spends a lot on my son. So you see I have a lot of people to buy for. I don't even know how much that is all together but it ain't cheap. And the people I buy for I have to cause they do for us.
Your child isn't doing bad if he AM
is receiving dental care and has a Wii already.  Why are you hell-bent on making money off a fluke?  You certainly aren't setting an example your child should follow by selling it and I hope they DON'T give a gift receipt. 
How old is your child?
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We did that as a child sm
I hate to "date" myself but we were a struggling large family and my Dad went across the street and asked a guy if he could rent his empty lot to grow some vegetables, etc. Not only was it fun but we had tomatoes, lettuce, cucumbers, etc., and it was great. The only negative thing I remember about it was the tomato cut worms, ugly little suckers! I think it's a fun thing to do and a good lesson for the family (and healthy). Be sure the soil is "good" though. You can have it tested for pH at any college lab (I think). Throw in some flowers, that would be cool. I am going to do some big sunflowers this year, I used to hate them but I think we need them and you can bake, salt and eat the seeds. Have fun!!!
Oh it seems the child did not have it when ...sm
they entered the US or at least showed no symptoms. So my mistake. They had no way of knowing the child had it. Poor kid.
I know this and I am sorry your child - sm
and your family had such a horrible experience. In any way, shape or form it is a horrible thing for any family to go through especially when your child suffers and does not make it through. I know not all kids or adults have an easy time, I am not a total dolt though I am sure you think I am, fine. Some get lucky and it does not affect them as much as others for some strange reason. Jen was on dantinomycin and vincristine, the vincristine was quite nasty and that is what gave her the nausea and make her puke the few times she did. She ate a lot of Zofran though and with that she had a pretty good tolerance to it for some reason, she felt the worst though when the dactinomycin was added in, 7 times. I too find the ped onc very depressing and switched jobs so I did not have to type kids anymore, too upsetting, now I only do adults which I can handle pretty well except for the ones who procratinate to sure fire death sentence. Rant all you want, I have no problem with it. I know this is about this woman's choice, again I think she/boy are wrong, some feel she is right, fine. Agree to disagree.
What do you do when your child gets in trouble?

Spank/Swat   


Time Out   


Natural Consequences (ie, if they won't stop throwing food, then lunch is over, or if they run away while you're out, it's time to go home)   


Re-direction (ie, trying to get your child to focus on something else)   


Other (possibly a combination of methods or something else entirely)


Depends on the age of the child
:)