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I'd still like a place to discuss religious

Posted By: Apple Scruff on 2007-12-06
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or nonreligious beliefs for those of us who are not Christian. I'm sure that is not allowed on the Gab board, which is okay, but where does one go then?

I love hearing other points of view if they are willing to hear mine, and that certainly goes for Christians as well.


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We DO discuss men issues. Bob & his ED, the
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They usually have to discuss their choice with
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in my opinion, if you don't want to discuss it here, why did you bring it here?--sm
You write a lengthy post and then dismiss any response with *I don't want to discuss it here.* You are not looking for help then. sorry. JMO
Can we discuss the call girl?
Gov's Spritzer's special someone. I read where she's an aspiring musician. I wonder if the publicity will hurt or help her.

Can you discuss this with family doctor? There is more than
NM
I know its human nature to discuss things such as

there is a 21-year-old college student missing from my home town.  She has not been seen since Friday.  Her name is Leah Hickman.  Her sister and the police were on Fox News last night - Greta (not sure of her last name) interviewed them.  Please keep Leah and her family in your thoughts and prayers.


Too early to discuss New Year's Resolutions?

I'm going to put extra effort into getting more organized and get back into crocheting! 


Is it too early to discuss New Year's resolutions?

I have already decided that 2009 is going to be a much better year.  These are my realistic resolutions:


1. To take better care of myself (this includes eating healthier, exercising even if I can only find 15 minutes, indulging in a bubble bath now and then AND making time for some of my long-forgotten hobbies).


2. Gain control of my finances.  I would like to pay off one credit card by summer and do everything possible to avoid creditors calling.


3. Be a better friend by spending more time with them.  It may be just having lunch once a month or surprising them now and then with their favorite chocolate or coffee.  Something to show that they mean something to me!


Chiropractor sites often discuss point tenderness
at those dimples like you are describing. I really think it is due to psoas muscle tightness from sitting too much for your job. If you do see a doctor, make certain you mention the point tenderness in that dimple area. And definitely stop sitting on a foot (as I sit here on one foot to take pressure off my sitter bones).

http://www.squidoo.com/psoas

But this article was also interesting:

http://www.massagetherapy.com/articles/index.php/article_id/602
I think you should discuss this with your doctor or maybe your local cancer center.
Get a professional opinion and professional help, yes I'm referring to a psychologist with the second. It almost sounds as though you think if you continue smoking you won't get cancer as quickly?! Nothing comes without work, quitting smoking or fighting cancer.

My father died of lung cancer, shortly after quitting. He had the same fear as you but after finding the cancer said he wish he had quit sooner and lessened his risk. The risk is always there, it is just how much you let it increase before you do something about it.

Quality of life is also something to consider. If the cancer is there (assuming there is by your fears), it will probably be caught at an earlier stage and very well be treated successfully.

I say start with your PCP. Then talk to your friend and get a first hand opinion on her situation since that is basically what you fear.
This is exactly why some of us are not religious ! LOL
I am quite content with my life the way it is, thank you :)
please get off your religious soapbox....SM

How DARE you infer that anyone who isn't *born again* isn't getting into heaven......You are insulting the black community and the Jewish and Muslim communities among MANY OTHERS.


Please get off your religious fanatic soapbox.............


 




FOR. I don't see them as a religious statement - sm
but rather, a statement of love for the person who died there, an expression of sadness that they were lost, and a little reminder to everyone else driving past it to back off on the throttle a little bit.
Actually, certain religious groups have to earn their
way to Heaven by "saving" people - getting them to hear the salvation message and be "born again"...They keep a tally, and believe that God keeps a tally, and first of all earn their place in heaven and then lots of bonus perks - some jewels in crowns, certain seats at the big old banquet table, positions of authority, etc. In particular, the Jehovahs' W group focuses on this. Poor things - they want us to believe that Heaven is for everyone, while they are busy earning bonus points - sort of like the old Green Stamp days, or earning frequent flyer miles! So, they don't care that they are obnoxious and in our faces - they believe this is what they have to do, and it has its perks in their sick minds. Poor things. And I believe this confrontational style in any religion turns away far more than it saves - even THE savior was meek and nonconfrontational - he never forced himself on anyone - but some just don't get it...though they will some day.
No MT, politics or religious posts here. NM
Goldbird
Have you spoken with your religious advisor?
If you have one, you might want to try that route.  It may be that because she was so well-behaved before that talking with someone she respects would make her realize how bad her behavior is.  Kids at that age can be awful; I know I was.  I never did drugs or drank, but I really resented my parents for always being on my back.  I think with the situation she is in now, you need to stay a step ahead of her.  Good luck.  I'll be thinking of you.
No, not adherence to religious dogma at all (sm)
Christians believe that every person on Earth is a sinner, and for our sins to be forgiven, we believe that Jesus was and is God's son and that we can pray to God and tell him that we believe Jesus died for our sins. There is plenty of evidence to be found to show that Jesus was not just some nice guy or prophet who died on a cross. Believe me, I looked into it when I had doubts. As for adherence to religious dogma, if you study the teachings of Jesus himself, you will see that he was against those who clung too tightly to their religious beliefs, the Pharisees, who thought they were better than others. Jesus did not hang around ultra-religious pious people, but instead hung around those who were hated in their community, and caused quite a bit of gossip because of it. He stopped the stoning of a woman who was caught having unmarried sex with someone else's husband and said let he who is without sin cast the first stone. No one threw a stone. That is how it is supposed to be.
Ask your religious leader what he thinks about

it -- isn't that why they make those tithe envelopes with stubs on them?  I claim all deductions that I have a record of. 


The hyper-religious phase
The world's hyper-religious phase is almost out of style,but it has been a long run don't you think?

I taught sunday school for years and I was considered not "religious enough." The next generations will not care for all the "in your face" stuff either.

All the same, you still have a lot to do to get down to two trucks and looks like DH is ready to leave yesterday! So I won't pray for you, but I will say get busy!
Religious conviction is a narrow road for some.
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Btw, wasnt thinkin of this from a religious standpoint
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I disagree with that...Gab is for all but not for religious discussions I guess so (sm)

It would only be fair to give others who are non-Christian but want to discuss religion a forum to do so.  The thing is I am a Christian but I love to hear others' points of view as well.  But if we can't discuss that on Gab board, and can't discuss it on Christianity board because it would be offensive, then I guess we can't discuss it here at all?


There is a religious not hygenic reason for circumcision.
Like so many Jewish commandments, the brit milah is commonly perceived to be a hygienic measure; however the biblical text states the reason for this commandment quite clearly: circumcision is an outward physical sign of the eternal covenant between G-d and the Jewish people. It is also a sign that the Jewish people will be perpetuated through the circumcised man. The health benefits of this practice are merely incidental. It is worth noting, however, that circumcised males have a lower risk of certain cancers, and the sexual partners of circumcised males also have a lower risk of certain cancers.

The commandment is binding upon both the father of the child and the child himself. If a father does not have his son circumcised, the son is obligated to have himself circumcised as soon as he becomes an adult. A person who is uncircumcised suffers the penalty of kareit, spiritual excision; in other words, regardless of how good a Jew he is in all other ways, a man has no place in the World to Come if he is uncircumcised.
Religious difference between husband and wife?

I am Christian and interested in a guy who is Jewish. What are the pros and cons of marrying someone from other religion?


Give me a broader view of problems that can arise in a relationship when your spouse is from other religion in general and Christian/Jewish marriages in particular.


TIA.


 


adminstrator...can we have a religious political radical board until the election?...sm
so as not to disturb the rest of the flotsam and jetsam of the gab board?  So far everyone has been reasonable...  Cat
Religious posts and political posts go to appropriate boards. NM
Goldbird
Sorry, don't believe in that place either!
Hmmm, that was a very christian-like post - NOT! lol
she's in a much better place now

and with her son.  I wonder who raises the baby.


there's a place for everyone

:)


That's why this is no place for it
I can tell you right now a lot of people would not like that. I asked someone how they would like it if it was the satanic bible and they have yet to answer. Although they were mighty quick to come back accusing me of being a non-believer when they have no idea what my background is. People don't want the Koran or Tanakh or the Jehovan bible (if they have one), the Wiccan Book of Days, or better yet, how about the Satanic bible. No, they wouldn't like that. To them its the bible or nothing else. People need to keep their religious beliefs to themselves.
I think I might have already gotten something to take the place
My husband the other day told me we needed some new towels, others worn. I thought well just let him get those as I seem to always be the one to buy things needed in the home. Yesterday UPS delivered a brand new 32 inch television to me, an early birthday gift for March from hubby. This morning I went out and bought him lots of new towels (and wash cloths also).
In the first place...sm
Sounds like he went to rehab for all the wrong reasons. Namely, for you, not for himself. The only way an alcoholic/addict has any chance for long-term recovery is to want sobriety more than he or she wants anything in the world. You work the program not for your family, not for your friends, not for your employer, but for yourself. Otherwise, he'll go right back out. Trust me on this.

Meanwhile, get yourself to Al-Anon STAT! The Al-Anon program shows you how to detach and take care of yourself and have your own life. It shows you how to make healthy decisions for yourself and not to enable to alcoholic/addict.

Best of luck to YOU.
What happened in the first place??
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I'd have a BIG problem with it. Not her place. (nm)
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Yes I would - it's not the teacher's place to do this....sm
shouldn't they be spending time teaching anyway instead of being worried about what kids do and don't believe in outside of the classroom?

Teachers are being allowed to do whatever they want this day in time. My high schooler listens to her biology teacher rant and rave each day about the "evils" of eating meat and she's sick of hearing it every day and is anxious for the end of the semester next week to get rid of this obsessive teacher.
Maybe look for a bed and breakfast place in that...
area. Chamber of Commerce might be able to help you.
Congratulations to her and to you!!! You should place the right arm
far over the left shoulder and give yourself a pat on the back. What a wonderful support you have been in helping her achieve her goals and you should be very proud of yourself, too. I know she is so appreciative for all of you that made her dream come true!
It's OUR place to tell our government that
Don't forget, the government is supposed to be owned by us, US citizens. They have gotten so giddy with power, they have forgotten that. Why else do they write their own paychecks, given themselves raises, and can continue to draw HUGE incomes after they leave office for the rest of their lives, including HUGE incomes for their wives long after they are dead, free healthcare, all the perks. These are public officials. Once they are out of office, they're on their own. We have let them take control of OUR government. It's up to us to take it back. You have a phone, e-mail, petitions.......you get the message across to them. Don't wait for others to do it for you.
I will take more than I bought in the first place
if they don’t cough up the $700 plus Tuesday morning and according to what (if that is the way it goes) it brings in on the court house steps, then I get % and the courts take % but not as much as mine. I can hardly wait until Show-Down at the OK Corral Tuesday morning. I just get ticked off thinking about their nerve.
NO WAY. It is not your place to tell them, let their parents tell them when they
think the time is right!!!!!
"No other place...."


NO OTHER PLACE
By Sondra Stallman ( poetry from II Cor. 5:8)

I turn and walk down a corridor.
Even though it is a strange and different place, I am not afraid to walk it.

There is a deep quiet here, like a hush and a soft sound of singing.
Everything has gone white. I am in a Most Awesome Presence.

There is no time nor space.

The Presence is all encompassing.
There is no “air” as I know it, yet I care not.

I am still. I feel no need at all.
No hunger. No thirst. I’m not tired.

The greatest change within me is the total lack of desire to utter a single word.

My thoughts seem to have stopped.  It is like I am floating.

I have always been very conscious of my “self”….my “body”….my “thoughts”,
my perception of things around me! In this place, I am utterly emptied of “self.”

My awareness is keen, however, of the Presence that is everywhere.
It is a Peace so deep it sustains all things that come near.

I feel as if I’ve been shot into the very center of a hot and burning star.

I can feel the energy that is creating and re creating every milli second.

There is a distant sound of song, as if miles away.

Voices that sound like velvet feels
are floating past me.I linger before the songs.

I reach out.

I can touch them with my finger.

I can TOUCH the SONGS!

Suddenly,it seems that the SONGS are INSIDE ME!

The light is bright and deep and all wrapped up in the songs.
I see no one.

I feel only Ecstasy.I know of no other place.

I know nothing but the Love
And The Light.

I Will never Leave.

II Cor. 5:8…”to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.”




Looking for best place to raise a kid

I like where I live...but after a week from H E double toothpicks last week, I really feel that a bit of distance between myself and any family members would be better.  Long story short, you think your family will be there to help when you need it, but instead all you get is beaten down and end up feeling bad and having to deal with your crises by yourself anyway (it's the ONLY reason I moved back to this area a couple of years ago).


Currently, I live in the deep south and my city has an excellent !!! school system, but I know there are other good school systems out there.  So, here are some of what I would like in addition to a good school system.


Near water and mountains (could be lake or ocean, or state park), easy access to public transportation (in case my car breaks down), a good YMCA or city recreation center.


I've been looking at a borough just north of Philly, a couple of small cities in Virginia, a city north of Denver, some areas in North Carolina.  I would like to avoid the west coast unless it's somewhere in Washington State or Oregon.  I've considered the Reno area, but I've never been there and I don't know what the schools are like.


Any ideas?  Thanks!  


Another place to check...
My basement has a sump pump and water collection area behind a basement wall.  The drainage pipe goes out to a pond down the street.  It took a while to figure out that was how tree-frogs were getting into my house.  Sorry about your snake problem--it's one of my few phobias (though I still will not kill them).  BTW, I also saw one go through a crack in the sidewalk.  Amazing critters aren't they?
There is no place in my house
where these would fit in. I am no where into the shabby chic thing, have had these in a cabinet and going thru all my stuff for the last day before the sale next weekend found these and hey, since I am not using, am gonna try to sell selling. I have some things of my hubby (who is a pack rat) and just hope he does not find what I have gotten of his. Ekk...I have everything but the kitchen sink, carpets, vintage jewelry, floor lamps, table and chairs, etc. I can hardly wait.
What a beautiful place for all of you!!! nm
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He never was yours to let go in the first place. Make the
.
If OP wants to be messy, get own place. But then
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Got cables all over the place, what to do?
As most of you know, these cable from the computer, fax, printer, etc. can be a mess. What systems do you use to help control these, any information would be helpful.
No - no place for a bible
I know this is going to infuriate a lot of people, but in my opinion the bible does not belong in the classroom. If someone brings one in but keeps it their desk drawer or backpack to read on their own time that is one thing, but to keep it out in plain site? There is a place for that - it is called church. In this day and age there is such a multitude of people of different religions. How would anyone like it if I was an instructor of your child and I kept the Satanic bible or books of other religion out in plain site - don't think you would like it.
Anyone know of a good place
to go on the web when lonely and/or bored (of course I come here, but we all need a variety).  I sometimes surf single sites and read profiles (both sexes just for fun), but I am wondering if you know of something fun to do. ? 
There is a special place for them
The worst crimes committed are abuse to children and to animals. In the bible it does state that hurting or maiming an innocent animal is one of the worst sins, the first being abuse to children. These are innocent creatures who are here to help us and give us comfort and love. They never ask for anything, are always there for us and never complain. It sickens me to my stomach to hear of abuse to animals. When I was younger I had a dalmatian pup. He was outside one day, fenced in, and got out through a small place in the fence. Someone in our neighborhood saw him, hit him with their car, and left him to die. I was heartbroken and it took me a long time to get over it. I would not like to be the person that will have to stand before God in judgment when it comes it comes to abusing these blessed animals. Only a coward and a bully would commit such an act.