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I beg to differ. Forgiveness, even Biblical terms, can

Posted By: Coal on 2006-12-16
In Reply to: This is all about forgiveness and letting go - ER MT

only genuinely happen AFTER the offender repents for having hurt/offended you. Forgive and forget is just a wimpy nonconfrontational thing. The only way one can feel true forgiveness is if the other party repents. One can make informed decisions and move on, but forgiveness is not one-sided, though it sounds all warm and fuzzy.


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Biblical prophesy will be fulfilled.......
"And he demands that everyone, both small and great, rich and poor, free
and bond, receive a mark. No man may buy or sell, save he that he has
the mark "

Confession to a priest is not biblical.
Maybe that's why the priests traditionally hide when they perform it?

http://www.gospelgazette.com/gazette/2006/jun/page5.htm
Forgiveness is something
we chose to do. We have the power to give or receive forgiveness. The question is, after doing all that you could possibly do, can you forgive yourself for past indiscrestions and move forward. In this situation, you do not need the forgiveness of others to validate your own kindness. Be patient, be kind, do not return evil. Most of all, know that you have tried - and that is all you can do.
forgiveness
You are letting her control your life. Never let anyone do that - take responsibility for yourself and use your power to forgive her. You CANNOT make another person do or say anything. Her forgiveness of you is not in your control but it sounds as if you have already done your best to forgive her.

At the get-together, greet her and if she doesn't pick up on it, so be it. Move on to other relatives and make it a pleasant time for yourself.

Good luck to you. You have a generous heart and you can handle this.
Even biblical scholars do not believe the Bible is the word of God (sm)
They recognize the Bible as written by humans. I just finished a very insightful course at my local university with an extraordinary instructor who is a minister and very learned scholar of the Bible. It opened my eyes and reaffirmed my beliefs (or lack thereof).
This is all about forgiveness and letting go

Obviously your husband has some deep hurts and a lot of anger.  Forgiveness is the key.  I know it's a lot easier said than done but it benefits the person doing the forgiving, not the "forgivee".  It doesn't mean he is condoning what was done to him.  Maybe the stepfather is doing the best he knows how, who knows.  We all have our issues.  Your husband does need to work on his anger and not bring the kids into it though.  Prayers for your hubby and your family. 


I agree that forgiveness is overrated
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terms
Did you read the terms of donating? That right there tells you it is a scam - it even says you agree not to report them to the host site, what a rip off
In terms of what? - sm
Could be Pentium 4, or it could mean someone who has had 4 childbirths-----Pregnancy history, written as "(gravida, para, X-X-X-X)," where gravida is the total number of pregnancies (including the present one), para is the number of deliveries after 20 weeks of pregnancy, and X-X-X-X is the number of full-term infants-number of preterm infants-number of abortions-number of living children-----written as G4, P4, A0. (cannot remember if it is with or w/o the commas, I don't do many of these).
OP can use whatever terms she wants and can also take care of herself (sm)
However, in her absence if her friends want to defend her that's ok too.  Maybe we all need to get a life if we are going to be on here debating something so trivial.
Personally, I think it needs to be on their terms - sm
My son is actually my stepson. I have been with his father since my son was about 7 years old. I always had a little suspicion but stayed quiet. I figured if he was, he would eventually "come out" to us.

He was actually about 17 when he called me one day from school and asked if he could just come home and talk to me. We sat for three hours, just the two of us, and he spilled everything.

It was absolutely heart-breaking to know that he was so terribly uncomfortable with his "secret life".

You love your kids unconditionally. It was a little hard for his dad to understand, very hard for his grandparents to understand but he needed to be himself.

The only thing I can offer to you is that you need to let it be their timing.

If I had asked my son about it directly, I think it would have sent him over the edge emotionally. He just wasn't prepared for it because he wasn't sure what was going on with him either.

He knew that I had gay friends and I was okay with that so I think this is why he chose to talk to me first, rather than his mother or his father.

I know it was a very difficult thing for him and I just told him that I was so proud of him for having the courage to be himself.

He's not perfect by any means but I love him the same as the rest of my kids.

He will soon by 25 and I am just as proud of him as I am my of other kids.
I think OP means she would use the terms
mentally handicapped or mentally challenged. At least those are the terms I usually hear now-a-days. Good luck to you and your family.
But, she and her ex are on excellent terms
They see and talk with each other every week, no animosity there so that is not a problem. If fact when she was here Thanksgiving she had invited him if he were going to be in town.
Terms of Endearment
I remember when
Shirley McClaine was screaming for them to give her daughter her meds because it was time. I was 17 when I saw this movie and I kept thinking, my mother would be exactly the same way.
Those terms are used all the time around here..sm
A lot of southerners use those words when talking to people. Sometimes when they don't even know the person. It is really no big deal to me.
but I differ on some (sm)
Brad is getting on my  nerves following Victoria around.  He should get with Sharon and be done with it.  I love Nick and Phyllis together (especiallly Nick with a beard - now that's HOT).  Victoria and JT I like together.  Jack and who knows who?  I like Lily and Daniel together.  Couldn't stand Dru. I hope she NEVER comes back.  Yes, it's always good to have someone to chat with and figure out what's going to happen.   - LOL
Ok, this is where we differ
I moved into my new home in 2004, at my previous one had been on the budget bill for electricity like you. I was told if I wanted the budget for this home, I would have to accept the old homeowners budget bill moving out- or else pay for 12 month straight before I could get on my own budget. Mind you, same company, just 30 miles down the road some. The woman said this was a different home from mine and I said yeh, and different family. Long story short- the previous owners were paying in excess of 200-300$ per month. I just had my bill reduced once again from 80 (wound up with credit paying that each month) and for the next 12 months $76.00. I tried to tell her- different family!! I would never accept their price because knew I did not use that much.
I beg to differ on this (sm)

My mom was in a health care plan supposedly run by doctors. Well, they would NOT cover a hospitalization or doctor because,even though I had prior consent to use this hospital and doctor ahead of time, they refused to pay the bill! I had to beg the doctor to release her ahead of time as Mom did not have that kind of money to pay out only living on $500 a month.


I took them through the appeal process and did win. They had to pay...but found out,in talking to others, that they were even worse than a regular insurance company! I dropped that insurance fast and got her signed up with regular insurance!!! No more headaches.


 


Beg to differ
First of all, this forum is called GAB - it means we express our opinions. SO, stay off this board and keep your judgments to yourself. Your're judging us just as you're complaining about how we are judging the Spears kid.

Secondly, this does concern all us. Not only because it affects the young people in our lives, who will be talking about this among themselves, but also because this 16-year-old child Jamie Lynn is having a baby who will be going to school and living in this country. So, that child will indeed be affecting my tax dollars. I may not pay for the delivery of the kid, but everything that impacts that child's life is paid for by our tax dollars.

You would have to an @diot to be happy about this kid having a kid. There is nothing nice to say about it unless you just have no clue.
I beg to differ . . .
nobody's trying to shove any agenda down anyone's throat.  Just because you personally don't like homosexuals, doesn't mean they don't deserve the same rights as anyone else.  Otherwise, we would still have slaves and women would still be considered inferior beings!!
I beg to differ
I have met quite a nasty handful of man hating mothers lately who have raised a bunch of foul mouthed daughters who hate men. My son deserves better!
Tell your mother in no uncertain terms (sm)
that your son and his soon to be wife are deciding who they want at their wedding, and that they will decide.  If she keeps calling, just simply say, "please stop calling, we are not going to change our minds.  And then don't.  If she chooses not to come, that's her decision.
ooh, you are right - see inside for link to their terms

http://www.myspace.com/Modules/Common/Pages/TermsConditions.aspx


 


Quite common terms in the South. We
call everyone something like that, whether we know them or not.
I beg to differ.....going by who she hangs around with.
Jay-Z attended George Westinghouse High School in Downtown Brooklyn and Trenton Central High School in Trenton, New Jersey but did not graduate. He claims to have been caught up in selling drugs, which he refers to in his music.

Jay-Z was accused of stabbing record executive Lance "Un" Riviera for what he perceived was Riviera's bootlegging of Vol. 3... Life and Times of S. Carter. The stabbing allegedly occurred at the record release party for Q-Tip's debut solo album Amplified at the Kit Kat Klub, a now defunct night club in Times Square, New York City, on December 9, 1999.

Jay-Z's associates at the party were accused of causing a commotion within the club, which Jay-Z allegedly used as cover when he supposedly stabbed Riviera in the stomach with a five-inch blade.

Nice role model, huh?

LOL
I beg to differ - Carpetbagger ! sm
New York State does NOT bring you Hillary Clinton! She is, was and always will be a carpetbagger - the only reason she came here was to set herself up to run for President! She swore back then she would not do that. See how honest she is? I'm ashamed of anyone who voted her into office!
I differ in my opinions - sm




Everyone has limitations and personal problems, including those with high IQ.  When we examine those on the other end of the scale, the mentally challenged, many of them seem very happy, and easily contented with the simple things in life.  Its because they are able to concentrate on that one thing and enjoy it.  Often the rest of us are too distracted by what's going on in our head to enjoy the here and now.  The smarter one is, the more easily they can identify what is wrong with a situation, so perhaps the more problems they see the more they tend to be distracted by worries, etc. and cannot enjoy the simple things in life.


Alcoholism?  The tendency to that type of escapism is inheritable.  Wise people that know it runs in their family will never indulge at all.  But smart doesn't necessarily equal wise.  In fact, smart often leads to arrogance, which leads to risk taking.  You can also wonder how smart people can smoke, gamble, vote the way they do, whatever.  These behaviors may be unwise, but they don't make them any less smart (except when the activity actually kills their brain cells).  Guess what my ex said to me - "I have so many more brain cells than most people, I can afford to kill half of them off and STILL be smarter than you".  Gee, I wonder why I divorced him...


I knew a brilliant guy (not my ex) that I posed your question regarding self-destruction.  He claimed it was his brain, and his right to waste it, or not, as he saw fit.  I suppose it will be between him and his maker to discuss whether or not it is a sin to do so.  I don't think anyone blamed his mother.  Nobody blames my ex's mother (indeed she has tried very hard to make him see the error of his ways).  They lose the respect of people that had high hopes for them, yes, the definitely do.  Their future looks really dismal.  But they can still run rings around us in calculus, even three-sheets-to-the-wind.  Aggravating as heck, but oh well,


I am one that believes that if a person wants to trash their life, its between them and God.  But as I told my ex, when judgement day comes, he'll have some explaining to do, and I wouldn't want to be his his shoes.


Begging to differ. sm
If I had Michelle's figure, the world wouldn't be ready for me! I've been short, stocky and usually overweight from day one, and even at my age, I'd love to have a figure like that! :D :D
curious - R U on speaking terms today with sis?

I am divorced and now on good terms with MIL, but not while we were married! sm

She was very critical, called me every name in the book and kept telling her son I was no good that he belonged in the home I could not PROVIDE FOR HIM, as in the home they could.  Umm last time I checked he was an adult too and we were to make a home TOGETHER. 


I can remember being sent to the hospital with preterm labor with my daughter.  I was scared, I had had to drive my sons to my mom's and then myself to the hospital.  My doctor was furious with him.  Why did I have to do that?  Because SHE needed to go to the doctor about her 'rrhoids and her rear end was more important than OUR unborn child!!!  Oh and he could have been available sooner, but she wanted to go shoe shopping.  She was truly the other woman in my marriage and when anything happened where I truly needed him, he was with her...shopping, taking her to the doctor, driving her to the dentist.  He eventually lost a job because all of that.  He didn't learn and continued until he finally has not had a full time job since.


What finally bridged the gap was our divorce.  He didn't see his kids or pay support because he didn't feel he should have to.  BUT I never kept my kids from her, she is their grandmother and they are her only grandchildren. She never forgot a birthday or Christmas and she didn't play favorites like my mom did. I respected her for what I felt was her important role in their lives and she grew to respect me for my that.


What finally did it is the fact that my ex up and remarried.  The gal he married has many documented mental health issues (I saw the report her ex had on her, but that is a long story).  My MIL tried with wife #2, she really did.  Finally, just about the time they married, this gal threatened my MIL's life and hit her in the face hard enough to knock her down!  This was done in front of my oldest son and my MIL's boyfriend at the time (FIL had passed on). 


From that day on, I was welcome in her home anytime and "that woman" was not. I suddenly became the nicest of her 3 DILs and she told me that herself.  Although the kids are grown and I have moved out of state, I send her birthday and Mother's Day cards. I know she regrets the things she said and did, she told me that too.  I told her that stuff was all in the past and what really mattered is the here and now.


 


The categories are as specific as terms like "violence" allow - sm
Admittedly, there could be some disagreement about "marginal" situations. Is a raised fist "violence"? Some would say yes, some no. Away from these margins, though, there wouldn't likely be much disagreement as to which category a movie belongs in.

And since all movies are fantasy (fiction), whether they contain this sort of thing or not, the question being addressed here is what sort of fantasy is doing better at the box office?
I think different states may differ in rules...
but the answer was yes in my case. He "quit claim" deeded the house to me, but the mortgage was still in both names. No way is a bank or mortgage company going to let one off the hook in case the other defaults.

Hope this helps.
I beg to differ; NOT just the *rich and famous*..sm
this problem crosses every socioeconomical level.........it's not just involving the rich and famous.........
i beg to differ. I wish i had freedom FROM religion
I get treated by a leper because I am athiest.

I beg to differ -- Our menstrual cycles
are designed to repeat approximately every 28 days, therefore allowing us the opportunity to avoid pregnancy or seek it.  Of course, I know not everyone is regular enough to rely on the rhythm method, but it certainly seems that Mother Nature designed it that way on purpose.  A little bit archaic though, I think, to say that we shouldn't be deciding whether we want children or not.  Planned parenthood has been around for decades.
To anon..She was trying to explain to the rest of us in simple terms...sm

how mares foal, bkz most of us don't have the opportunity to see that. You don't even know how many horses and other animals Hayseed has and cares for every day!  


I suggest you apologize immediately.   Cat      


I beg to differ - chocolate tastes better than "skinny." LOL. NM
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Your idea of details and mine differ greatly.
Details would be a blow by blow.  Simply stating I conceived my child 9 years ago on this night is not detailed.  Saying I did or didn't have a BM today is not detailed giving you a play by play explanation of said BM would be detailed.  We all have sex and we all have BM -- saying so isn't gross.  Doing it in front of you would be gross.  Showing home movies would be gross.
Yes, true, the daily lifestyle does not differ, but the nightly does,nm
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