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I have a bread machine but....

Posted By: starving artist on 2008-11-02
In Reply to: I have used disposable pans and made pies before. Went over VERY well. nm - SM

how do you bake without using the pan they provide? I have an Oster and the pan has the mixer built right in.


 


 




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Does anyone have a bread machine?

If so, would you recommend getting one and which brand is good? 


Bread Machine
Hi - I love bread!  I have a Hitachi that is old and works great.  I am antsy to get a new one though and think I will get a Zojirushi - they are the best I know of.  I mostly use mine to mix dough and then I proof it outside the machine (I proof in my dehydrator, you just take out the shelves and set it on low and shortly thereafter all the rising is finished - I use a big dehydrator from Excalibur so a lot of bread can fit in there!  Yummy bread.  It also saves a lot of money because bread is now about 2.50 a loaf or more for good bread, but mine is better and is way cheaper!  I got one for my daughter and got her the one she wanted (a Panasonic), which is half the price of a Zo and she thinks works just as well.  Just get one with the bigger size insert so you can make big bread if you want (you can always make it smaller, just by using the small recipe size if you just mix in your machine and get one that has a setting for adding in add-ins (like raisins or nuts or whatever).  Those are the important things in bread.  Go to King Arthur Flour website and check out the bread!  It is the best place to buy ingredients that you might not find in your own town if you live in a small one.  Now I am hungry for bread from all this and think I will go put some Portugese Sweet Bread in there for later! Good luck with your bread!  Maybe we could quit transcribing and open a bakery!  That might be fun!   
I made Cinnebons with my bread machine one year.
That was the year I heard the most positive comments back. Loved them! Used disposable 8 x 8 tins and wrapped them up pretty with red and green Saran wrap.

Over the years I have gotten the plastic trays that are shaped like Santa or something like that and made cookies, fudge, made 1 of the slots mixed nuts and mints. Those also went over well, especially the families with kids.
Just use the machine to
Make the dough. Then pull the dough out and put it in your own loaf pans to bake in the oven.

Or bake them in the bread machine pan and pull it out when its done and wrap it in xmas colored plastic wrap wiht a bow on top. It's the though that counts. Who cares if it looks like it came out of a bread machine.

I'm actually wishing now that I hadn't gotten rid of my machine. I felt it was just taking up space for how little I used it. This would have been a great use for it!
what machine do you have?
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We tried the sound machine...
and he didn't like that. I think he likes the air flow even if it's not directed at him. I hadn't ever thought about the cost that fan is running constantly.

I'm not clear about the white board (drywall?, white boards that you write on?) but certainly is a consideration. I could make that easily removeable and yes cover with fabric. Thanks for the ideas too.
Leg Magic Machine
I saw this new Leg Magic machine on TV.  Does anyone have one?  Does it work?  I could use some more tone in my legs and I hear it can be of benefit to your back as well.
I have a breast machine also
Only thing is I told him I would not tell!! He, he.
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New Washing Machine
A gentleman that I took care of/helped for a while (because of MS and being somewhat immobilized) had a Maytag, which was a top loader, but had all the computerized bells and whistles on it and I was amazed at the amount of water that was extracted after the spin cycle was completed -- it took HALF the time for the clothes to dry because of that, but another suggestion that I would make is checking out Consumer Reports and just do an internet search as well to see what the top rate machines might be -- no sense in "going inexpensive" only to have to replace in 2-3 years :)
If you operated the machine
you would be a moderator here, but you're not...and that's why you're angry, because you aren't in control.
HA! Me too. My son is using my step machine
!
Sorry! What type of machine do you have? :)
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Breadh machine help!!! sm
Due to the economy, I thought it wise to purchase one of these. I went to Kohl's and purchased a basic Oster on sale. I do not have official 'bread machine flour" or official yeast. I did make an attemt with King Arthur (KA) 2 cups and Flischman's yeast. It is set to go off at 9:00 PM and it doesn't look to promising but it smells good! Any info on making bread - refuse to pay all that money per loaf. Help - some may not agree, but I think we should bring back the recipe board to help us through winter. Thanks so much for your input!!!
Yep, just mix up the dough in the machine
for Cinnebons, pizza dough, rolls, etc.

Home-made bread turns out great baked in the machine. I don't use those box breads from the grocery store.

My sister has 2 machines and bakes 2 loaves of bread daily, all different kinds. Her house smells so good!
Don't know if this machine is broken or not...help?
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Anyone scrapbook and have the Cricut machine? sm
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Need a new washing machine...any suggestions? sm
Either a regular top loader or one of those front loaders I am looking for but nothing over $700.  All opinions welcome!
You can make one yourself at Walmart with their machine (sm)
they have them here in North Carolina beside the photo drop-off area. I had someone help with my mother and father in-laws though because I wanted music added. If you are very computer savvy though, you may be able to do it yourself if adding music matters to you.
Take a sewing class, and take the machine - sm
with you. There you will learn how to use it and how to sew too. I have been sewing since I took home-ec in 7th grade. I have a Singer that is about 20 years old or more. It is a pretty basic one with about 12 different stitch types. Have never had an issue. Sounds like you don't have the bobbin in right or wound wrong, and the tension too tight too. The tension is adjusted with the different fabrics you use, and the thread of course. But sounds like you need a simple "how to sew" class. Call a local craft store and see what they offer. Even one private lesson would probably do you a world of good. Good luck.
bread recipes
Would the kind lady who posted her bread recipes please reply to me, even if it is my private e-mail address,  with the recipes that she had for 4 loaves of bread.  My hard drive crashed and even though I copied the recipe  to my word expander, I was not able to print it out.
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I know this isn't latte, but my husband and I found a certain organic wheat bread at Sam's Club that we absolutely loved. It was 4 loaves in a bag for around 5 bucks....great price and great bread. It was fresh bread, so 15 minutes in the oven and it was ready!!!! They discontinued it and I called them. The marketing guy said he knew exactly what I was talking about because he and his wife loved it also, but the numbers showed it wasn't selling as well, so they placed it in different places in the store locally, but it still didn't sell well, so they discontinued it. I can't imagine that because every time I went in, there were tons of empty boxes I had to move around to get to the new ones. Did they tell you it wasn't selling well?
Homemade Bread

I'd like to start making my own bread. I can only tolerate easy recipes and not too time consuming. Is making your own bread easy, moderate or difficult? if it's easy, do you have any tried and true recipes?


Should I buy a bread machine? What can you tell me about bread machines and their ability to pop out good tasting bread, also, with bread machines, do you have to use a pre bought packet or can you stick your own ingredients in there and bake?


Homemade bread
Well, I'm old-fashioned. I've never used a bread machine in my life. But I do make four loaves of bread at least every week and my family can't live without it (I say in all modesty). I've won blue ribbons at the County Fair for it. This is how I do it - This may seem very long and involved, but it's because I'm trying to describe it really thoroughly. Don't let the length of the instructions put you off. Do try it!

The initial makinag and kneading of the dough only takes about twenty minutes - the rest is waiting time, mostly.

I start with dry yeast, one package in a half a cup of hot tap water, stir it up and let it sit for 5-10 minutes. While it's sitting, I put three cups of hot water in a big mixing bowl with two teaspoons of salt, two tablespoons of sugar, and a quarter stick of margarine (or butter if you prefer). I heat that in the microwave for three minutes.

Then I add two cups of flour to the ater/salt/sugar/ butter and stir it up. You'll need a strong spoon because it'll get pretty thick later on. I have a favorite wooden spoon that I use. Once that's mixed in (it doesn't have to be completely smooth) add the yeast, then add another half cup of hot water to rinse the rest of the yeast out of the cup and into the dough. Stir that up, and then start adding your flour. I start with a total of ten cups, usually get close to twelve. You can do that all at once or two cups at a time. After it gets too hard to stir, it's time to put some of the last two cups of flour on the table and dump the dough mixture out onto the table. Then comes the fun, especially if you're stressed. Start kneading the dough, adding more flour when it gets sticky. Depending on how humid it is, you may need another cup or two cups. I usually add about half a cup at a time gradually each time it gets sticky. If you put in too much all at once, it may turn out too heavy. At eleven or twelve cups, you will hit the point when your hands don't stick to the dough anymore. Then just knead it for another several minutes until it's smooth "as a baby's bottom" was how I was taught.

Then I wash out the bowl and dry it with a clean dish towel, spray the inside with cooking spray, put the dough in, then thoroughly wet the towel (not dripping, but don't wring it out all the way either), and cover the bowel. That'll keep the dough from drying out while it's rising. Set in in a warm place to rise. In the summer I set it on my stove with the light on over it. In the winter, I'll put a pan of warm water in the oven on the bottom shelf and put the bowl on the top shelf.

Let it rise to double its original size, about an hour. Can be more. Dough is very forgiving if you let it rise too much. Then fold it in on itself, recover it and let it rise again. I usually let it rise at least two or three times. The more often you let it rise, the lighter it will be.

After the last rising, I spray my four loaf pans with cooking spray, then take the dough out, put in on the table and divide it into four parts with a large knife. Then, fold it in and under to form a loaf and put it in the loaf pan. Set that to rise to double. At about 45 minutes, start preheating the oven to 375 degrees. When the dough is the height you want (it will rise a little more in the oven), stick it in the oven for 30 minutes. It should be golden brown on top when it's done. Take the loaves out of the pans immediately and put them on a cooling rack so moisture doesn't accumulate under them.

The family will attack the first loaf of bread immediately, be forewarned! The other three, when they are almost cool, put them in regular bread bags you have saved from store-bought bread. I freeze mine, because this has no preservatives and does get stale quickly. It's best eaten within a day or two of making it or thawing it. That's never a problem in my house.

I hope you try it. It's a great feeling, getting all the accolades from your family and friends. PS - if you're lactose intolerant, like me, there are no milk products in it. I never eat store-bought bread anymore. It also makes the best toast in the world, and French toast?!? Wonderful!
homemade bread
She's absoloutely correct! I love making my own bread. My kids are gone now, so I don't make as much, but give it away. It doesn't last long if it sticks around here and there is such a good feeling when you've done it yourself. No preservatives and junk included. That being said, I do have a bread machine as well, have rarely used it, but when I do, it does a gresat job and I can make more types of bread because I can just throw everything in and let the machine do the rest. It really does turn out good and I am freed up to do other stuff, like work!!
homemade bread
Thanks for sharing your recipe. I lost my bread book in a flood here in Florida when there was 8 inches of water in my house and my recipes were on the bottom shelf of my cabinet (among other recipes) and have not made any bread since. My mother bought me an "earthenware bowl" that she paid a lot for to rise the dough which retains the temperature. I only have 3 loaf pans but will buy another. I bought a breadmaker machine but did not use it much. I used it for rye bread which is hard to knead because it is more coarse. My family loved my bread and I pretty much loved to have my hands in that dough. I know it is somewhat exhausting, but I find it almost therapeutic and stress reducing. I am going to try your recipe.
Bread recipe
When you say you put yeast in hot water, do you mean just warm water??  I thought hot water would make the yeast not work. 
Never could get the bread machines
to work really well using fresh ingredients, the boxed mixes worked good but are more expensive than a loaf of bread. I have a few recipes for the oven that turn out great though.
Bread help appreciated sm
The bread came out just "okay" with King Arthur Flour, it was a great experience though and I can't wait to get to the market to get the actual "bread flour;" hopefully will be within a few days. We have a Christmas Tree Shop in the next town and will try to get there to get the flour cheaper. We are also close to (excuse this) Wal-Mart. The aroma alone was great and I was amazed at how it kneaded itself, etc., as this is the part I was dreading when making bread. The Oster does it all for $59 with a $10 coupon good next week at Kohl's. I can't say it was that good this a.m., I did cut a thin slice and toasted it. Our Golden Retriever was salivating but we're watching his diet. I will be looking for bargains and enjoying having the aroma in the house. We have cold winters in NE so the smell of bread and crock pot meal or mac and cheese is a good thing! I feel like Martha! (I could pack on the pounds with this.) The crust was crunchy and the inside well cooked. I may try pizza dough in it one night as well. I could become addicted to this experimenting with bread over $4 to $7 a loaf around here. Thanks for the input.
Maybe point and shoot like two machine guns? ....LOL!
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I just use the answer machine to screen calls - sm
if its a recorded call, it doesn't record. If it's a sales call, they rarely leave a message, and if they do, I erase it. If I need to be available to family members, I tell them to identify themselves in the message, and I'll pick up.
I use the answering machine to screen calls too--sm
if it is something important and they begin to leave a message, I will answer, otherwise I won't. Most of the time, they will not leave a message.

The do not call list is helpful, but not for everything. If you really want to take the time, you can answer the phone and before they start their pitch, tell them nicely that you wish to be removed from their call list. They are supposed to remove you. If they call back after that, you can report them to the do not call list and they will be fined for it. Also ask for the name of who you are speaking to. Sometimes two or three different people from the same place have your number and even though you ask to be removed from one person calling, the next may not know that and call you anyway. It took me almost a week of doing this on a daily basis and eventually the calls stopped. It takes time, but it works. oh, heavenly peace and quiet!
machine to remove cigarette smoke?
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Machine of my choice - divorce lawyer
I couldn't live like that. Besides the awful stench and the health hazards, I wouldn't stand for his lack of respect for me.
followup on machine to remove cig smoke

First, thanks again to those who tried to be helpful/supportive.  Secondly, i may (!)have made a breakthrough this morning, Praise God!!  Sparing the details, after another fit of mine over trying to eat in a 'cloud', i put it to him this way:  Saying, "i've been looking into air cleaners to remove the smoke smell from the house, and they will cost from $700 to $1000.  So which is it going to be -- will you quit smoking, smoke outside the house or do we invest in these expensive air cleaners?  I just can't tolerate it like i used to."


I let him ponder awhile and asked again for the answer.  I about fell off my feet when he said he'd try harder to quit smoking and that he might start smoking outside the house, and might even consider a prescription to help...Good Golly Miss Molly!! 


Wonders truly never cease!! 


My daughter has for some time said to let answering machine
get the phone calls- she knows a lot of telemarketers call so it is not my idea, but hers to begin with! I have for years and years tried to explain that IF she thinks by my tone of voice I am upset, to please ASK, that is all- I will tell her no, not much upsetting in my life. If most parents would be truthful, they would probably say they preferred 1 child over another- my son was the chosen 1 so to speak. I thought he hung the moon when he was younger. He changed a lot- to be so disrespectful when if not for me- even his own father told me after son grown if not for me- where would my son have been- that I was like the rock, he was the rolling stone, never sticking around. I would hate for that to happen- I think most parents would hate to see a child die but at the same time- what about if his mother dies and he does not try to make amends- the road goes both ways you know. I feel I have done no wrong in the relationship at all. I am at peace with myself. As far as the daughter goes- wish you could ask my housekeeper who has been with me for years about my daughter- you would get an earful- she is a very spoiled girl, a me type person and her mother is not first on her list of people to see- she does for her friends and I have always been on the backburner with her. Told my aunt yesterday I love her but I don’t like her a lot of the time. And no flame for this- other parents feel the same and I know they do about certain children. Always asked if she is only child- that should tell you a lot.
Agree. 1 of the masses. A tiny cog in a machine. I
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Love white bread. nm
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Definitely good bread - something dark or rye, or
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Skip the bread, which is where the carbs are -
Make the rest into a salad to eat with the soup! :-)
bread; soft fruit
nm
I made my own bread for years sm
I have celiac disease, so no more, but the kids loved it.

I have had a bread machine, but they are not friendly in higher altitudes, so I gave it away. I baked by hand and yes, I was an MT at the time. I used to make 6 to 10 loaves at a time, which is a lot of kneading. I found that kneading it as I did clay when I was throwing on a pottery wheel worked best for my hands. It is a spiral kneading technique, hard to explain. I sit on the floor and knead in a very large steel bowl. The angle of my wrists and hands is much better that way.

Anyway, my favorite bread recipes come out of the original Laurel's Kitchen. I don't like the new anniversary edition and I don't like their bread book. You'd need to look in the library for this, but it is worth it.

While I don't own one (have not found one) I understand that the best and easiest way to knead bread is a bread bucket. You can buy them from a couple of places on line that cater to Amish people. It looks sorta like an old-fashioned ice cream bucket, but you put bread in the bucket and crank.

I stand by something called Hungarian High-Altitude flour. I have used it at high altitude and low altitude, it is equally good. If you can, get bulk yeast from a health food store because those packets are pricey and not as fresh as you need for premium bread. Made by hand, the best bread comes from the best sponge beforehand.

Feel free to email me about anything I have said.
NYMT - bread recipe

Just reading over your recipe.  What kind of flour do you use?  Bread flour or AP?


Half a loaf of bread better than none
My husband (who is union) and I have talked about this and he definitely said he would take pay cut in order to keep his job if need be.
You could use them to make Monkey Bread. sm

You stack and layer them in a tube pan, let them rise as normal.  Then take a mixture of melted butter, cinnamon, white and brown sugar and poor over the bread.  Bake at 400 for about 40-45 minutes.  Delicious for breakfast!


Won $1000 on a poker slot machine about 4 years ago...
and 2 weeks ago won $800 on another slot machine on a $20 investment on a penny machine.
Does anyone every use a KitchenAid mixer for kneading their bread?
I have never made bread before but the mixer has a bread hook attachment, wondering if this works well or not?
My aunts always made friendship bread.
Not sure exactly, but they would get a "start" from someone and always had a little left to use to mix up the next loaf, so on and so on.
People love my bread stuffing sm
I use Pepperidge Farm seasoned bread stuffing, don't know what other brands are out there, this is put out by a bread company. Then instead of water, use orange juice. I once tried chicken broth but too greasy. I add freshly chopped onions, celery and sometimes raisins and small amt. of chopped cranberries. I never stuff the turkey but bake it separately in a casserole. If it looks too dry, I may add a teaspoon or more of the final turkey drippings just over the top. This is one time I use butter. I have tried rubbing the bird with mayonnaise and that works well. Like to experiment but always the turkey comes out just fine at 20 minutes per lb. and use a thermometer. They always ask for more stuffing.
Eat your bread crust and it will make your hair curly! nm
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