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I would have called the police right from the start, especially with underage drinking.

Posted By: MT and worn out on 2008-07-07
In Reply to: Next door neighbor's teen having parties - sick of it

the mother could be brought up on charges of furnishing aldohol to minors for starters. Don't put up with it for another minute. The police will not tell who called, they just show up on the door step and take care of business.

Good luck.


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Well, I called the police, told them the situation

and they came by and picked him up because he had a warrant for his arrest.  Apparently, the last time he was in the ER, he had gotten combative and tried to escape and in the scuffle of the EMTs, nurses, doctors, and security guards trying to get him into the restraints, he kicked a security guard in the face who then decided to press charges because he had already been subjected to verbal abuse from him. 


The police told me they are going to take him to the station, call the city where the warrant is and let them come and pick him up and decide what to do with him.  I told the police officer that I would not be going to the ER if that is where he ended up.  I would not be bailing him out of jail.  And I didn't want him back.  Tomorrow, I'm seeing an attorney about the legalities of keeping him out of the house and getting a court order to keep him away. 


I still want him to take the airline ticket I bought him and go to his dad.  I don't know if his father wants the responsibility but I don't care.  Somebody other than me needs to take care of him. 


Thanks everyone for listening and advising and encouraging. 


Report him to the police, let the police...
help you solve the problem.
It is obvious that you and your mom alone cannot do it on your own.
You are much too lenient, if you let it go on, it will not end well.
For those people with school aged children when do vacations start to dwindle and you start getting
ready for school.  I usually take a vacation when things slow down at the end of Summer and I am just wondering when in August most people start getting into school things and less vacations are taken. 
In MHO when they start asking its time to start explaining.
My daughter and I started discussing the basics in like second or third grade.

Good luck it was much harder for me with my son.
Vet called before and after surgery, and assistant called this
this afternoon. I cant wait to see her. She has only been gone for 1 day and as one lady stated, the house is empty. Working from home, I have become quite attached to her and her to me. Thanks for all the well wishes and Boo Boo Kitty thanks you too !!
And the drinking age is....
This might have changed since my kids were growing up. When the kids and I visited Jamaica, no drinking age there and so my 15 year old son was allowed to drink, even his much younger sister could order from a bar but in the US the age was 21 and so that was what I expected out of them. I personally would hold any parents legally responsible for letting under aged kids drink at their home. I am too much of a stickler for the laws of the land.
husband's drinking
I think, from what I have read, is that he can only help himself in stopping. Has to hit bottom....after AA and being sober would be the time for your support. I think by staying with him now you will be co-inabling. He knows you are there, so he probably feels "so what, she's still here and I'm still drinking". He has to want to stop, until then he won't. Remember, it is a disease, and it can't be cured, but can be taken "one day at a time". Best of luck.
drinking for 2 years is not trying it out

Your daughter is headed down the wrong path.  If she's been smoking for 2 years, she's not trying that out anymore, either.  Apparently, both of these new habits "fit" and she's taking them home.  The fact that she says she feels relieved not having to hide it anymore is a sure sign she has no intention of quitting.  I strongly urge you to discipline her.  Children need discipline.  She may hate you for it now, but your job is to be her mother, not her friend.  Both of these habits carry dire consequence over the long-term (which I'm sure you are aware of) and both of these habits only get worse over time. 


Yes, I tried alcohol and cigarettes when I was 16 (no drugs) but only a couple of times.  To this day, I still don't like the taste of beer and never drank any other alcohol until I was over 21.  When my mom/dad found out what I was doing, I was severely disciplined - grounded, spanked (yes I said spanked at 16), and was stripped of any privileges.  This definitely deterred me from participating in these things after I was allowed to resume a normal life.  This may sound harsh, but I'm thankful today my parents put an end to it when they did.  I intend to do the same with my children.  I think that's the problem with a lot of today's youth -- they're parents are too worried about being their friend, instead of doing their job as a parent.


What is Nicki drinking?
I know she is drinking the drink that David drugged, but it looks like white wine or champagne. WTH? It certainly dosesn't look like sparkling water or whatever the recovering alcoholic normally drinks.
I would not drive after drinking it!
Use in place of wine:)
drinking soda
I think that drinking soda aggravates that. Cranberry juice and herbals teas calm this sort of thing down for me.
Legal Drinking Age
Many of the states that have chosen to specifically prohibit alcohol consumption by those under age 21 have a variety of exceptions. For example,

Some States allow an exception for consumption when a family member consents and/or is present. States vary widely in terms of which relatives may consent or must be present for this exception to apply and in what circumstances the exception applies. Sometimes a reference is made simply to "family" or "family member" without further elaboration.

....

Some States allow an exception for consumption on private property. States vary in the extent of the private property exception which may extend to all private locations, private residences only, or in the home of a parent or guardian only. In some jurisdictions, the location exception is conditional on the presence and/or consent of the parent, legal guardian, or legal-age spouse.

Some States also allow exceptions for educational purposes (e.g., students in culinary schools), religious purposes (e.g., sacramental use of alcoholic beverages), or medical purposes.

http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/LegalDrinkingAge.html

if he quits drinking and changes for the better, you have your answer
nm
Lowering the legal drinking age from 21 to 18

I didn't know this was going on.....


The article is long so I didn't copy all of it. See the link below:


College presidents from about 100 of the nation's best-known universities, including Duke, Dartmouth and Ohio State, are calling on lawmakers to consider lowering the drinking age from 21 to 18, saying current laws actually encourage dangerous binge drinking on campus.


The movement called the Amethyst Initiative began quietly recruiting presidents more than a year ago to provoke national debate about the drinking age.


"This is a law that is routinely evaded," said John McCardell, former president of Middlebury College in Vermont who started the organization.


"It is a law that the people at whom it is directed believe is unjust and unfair and discriminatory."


Drinking 9-12 beers a day means he is

No, sure donot see that. Was he drinking the beer
on the unicycle? LOL
Try drinking 8 glasses of water a day...(SM)
I just spoke with a friend whose husband was advised by his doctort to drink a lot of water for his back problem. He did and it worked and he feels better overall. Could be the bones in your feet are dry and building up with calcium.
My daughter was drinking heavily, she didn't know that I knew but she would
act strange and when I would try to come close to her casually, she would pull away. I waited til she fell asleep and could smell the booze on her breath.  The next day I told her I would buy lunch if she could go grab it and when she left I went in her room and found to stashed bottle of some cheap rum.  I know it sounds bad but I put some ipecac in the bottle and then waited.  I didn't put much, but it was effective. She blew chunks and blew and blew.  She thought she just got sick, but about a week later I did it again and after she got sick that time, that was the end of her drinking.  Smart girl, eh? She somehow figured out that drinking rum made her sick!  I may sound like a terrible mom, but I also don't have a drunk for daughter now either.
Red Cross told me excessive tea drinking could cause anemia.
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Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinking.
 Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking. 
 Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines
Try drinking lots of water today, bet you feel at least nm
x
It's the other guy's wife that's strange. I can see guys drinking, watching
xx
EXCUSE ME! Smoking and/or drinking does not make you a bad parent! sm
I smoke. I drink margaritas when I choose too. This does not have any effect on how I raise my children. One is a straight A student. The third is an average student. Then I have my 21yo who is excelling in the nursing program and just told me tonight I was a great mom no matter how she used to argue with me, which she did and regularly. Smoking and/or drinking does not play a role in life unless you are an alcoholic. Just because someone drinks, they are not and guess what... they can still be a mom/dad and raise wonderful children.

If you want to pick something that is wrong, how about a church that teaches children to fast when they are only 11 and already underweight (not mine but a friend's). That is more wrong.
It is just like drinking Coors light determines you will have a boy baby and Miller Lite a girl. sm
I have heard that actually; however, it is not true.

I did hear that too much Mountain Dew makes one impotent!

Don't know who dreams this stuff up, but I would have to say it is not true at all. My hubby only drinks Coors Light and we have a boy and a girl, go figure! LOL
And what would the police have done? I'm sure the police sm
have a lot of things going on they have to attend to, like traffic accidents, etc. What could the police have done in this situation? Make the lady take the dog to the vet? Take the dog themself? I don't know of any policeman who would have been able to do anything except maybe give the dog's owners a ticket for allowing loose dogs to lie in the street. Yes, it's a sad situation. But it was not the driver's dog. I don't think she had any obligation whatsoever to this dog or its owners. Dogs do not belong in the street!
I'd still try the police

Chances are good the little varmint is on their radar for something else.  If they do come out, and if they manage to come out often enough, maybe Mom will get po'd enough to do something about it.   Or maybe he'll do something stupid enough with the cops there that they take further action.


 


The police have enough to take care of besides
a person calling them if they got a card from an unknown person?? That is not what the police are for, them out investigating a birthday card and someone else is being robbed, assulted or whatever.. My goodness, think about your answer before you do post. The person on the post seems to be a caring person. If you have emergency, then the police should be called!!
Have you tried calling the police?
I live in a quiet suburb of a larger city and the police are very strict about keeping the peace and keeping out the riff-raff. I've been here about 16 months and I've called the police about 8 times. Other neighbors also call. Nothing much gets done because the hoodlumbs are too smart to be caught red-handed. But there's a long list at the police station of how many times the cops have been called to that address.
The police should be told about this, & maybe someone in the
s
You can get a police escort to go with you (sm)
If you have somewhere else you can go, you can get the police to escort you to get your things.
I would call the police for sure and
state to them you feel there is abuse going on. You can remain anonymous. I once went to look at a puppy for sale and the breeder brought him out into the living room. The puppy wouldn't even come out from under the table. It was so scared. I left there thinking I'd never seen a puppy act that way and it weighed on my mind. A few days later I read in the paper this man had been arrested for cruelty to animals. Trust your instinct and report this.
definitely would call police
and file a report. Then i would inform hospital that if the ring is returned within 24 hours, no charges will be filed, no questions. Otherwise it will be vigorously pursued.
And others can't help being the niceness police.
moo
Keep calling the police and s/m
You can get restraining orders for longer than 10 days.  The initial one is always temporary.  She needs to see an attorney on top of the cops.  It sounds like the cops are sympathizing with him and not doing their jobs properly.  The cops can verify how many times they have been called and have come out.  This is what the judge needs to issue the restraining order.  I would keep calling the cops and documenting EVERYTHING.  This is about the only way to get him to stop.  You need to do the same.  It sounds like your dad has either a serious mental problem or is just a kid that never grew up and needs to get over himself.  An attorney can get you more information on the restraining order, but the first time he violates it, you need to call the cops.  Who cares if he takes off?  The cops have an OBLIGATION to go and check it out.  If he is a habitual offender of violating it, they can make him wear an ankle bracelet to track him.  There are things that can be done, but only you and your mother can make it happen.  You can't just sit back and take no for an answer.  Be strong, otherwise you'll be dealing with this the rest of your life.
And if the police and school do not take it seriously s/m
as some small towns do, I would also call the local newspaper, television station, etc until you get the results that you want.  Zero tolerance is zero tolerance no matter who it is. 
Please report this to the police (sm)
This is threatening and dangerous behavior. he is not afraid to knock on your door or to leave a note. Please call the police and report this immediately.
Thought Police
Oh, heck. So she has the hots for a boy-toy. Big deal! Who cares!? She already said she's not going to do anything about it.

We all have thoughts, fantasies. I'm assuming you're human & have them too. I know I have. I just figure it's some primal response to height or face shape or jaw prominence or something else that the godhead specifically engineered in order to ensure survival of the fittest, & I just laugh & forget about it because regardless of biology, the social situation won't accommodate it. As it sounds like OP has done.

Relax, for heaven's sake. Thoughts do not abuse make.

I would probably talk to the police...sm
Maybe they could go pay him and his parents a visit.

There is no telling what my husband would do. I don't want to think about it. He would probably go to jail for beating the kid. LOL
The police can watch your car --sm
while you testify. This is not their first rodeo ride either, and probably get this all the time. Let his friends try it and get caught. Then you can testify against them too. ha ha. Glad to hear you are going!! thumbs up!
I would call the police now - he was scouting to see if you were alone and if there were any men

About 5 years ago an MT was murdered in Knoxville by someone selling magazines.  She worked for a national and was alone, but in a nice neighborhood, upstairs working in a townhouse.  That guy may seem weak enough but he may have partners.  Didn't mean to scare you, but it really made me get cold chills.


Yes - I saw one here who helps with police cases
and she was very accurate.  I do believe some people have this gift.  If you think about it, shows like Medium and Heroes are becoming more and more popular and I think people are opening up to the fact that this is real.  I love John Edward too but he's booked for the next trillion years! 
I can't believe all of you are upset about the police comment...
but not that she will be sent to a "meaner mom and dad". lol Priceless and typical.

To me, no biggie. Plus I don't particularly like cops ;)

Poster was having a moment. There is far worse people say and do to kids. And that can be turned around, easily. Geez.

:)
Spelling police? Pleeeeeze no...
Unless you NEVER make mental errors (its versus it's, your versus you're), please don't correct our mistakes.  Rest assured, I always kick myself when I see a typo or grammatical error that I've made without anyone having to point it out. However, this board being named 'gab' implies a casual come-as-you are atmosphere...i.e. no spelling police. We will return the favor.   Thanks!!!
It is better to call the police or the ambulance
if he is in such a miserable condition. Sleeping his stupor off in his truck.
He might die due to alcohol poisoning.
Do something, have him institutionalized and get rid of him. He is playing you! Don't let there be a next time, worse than this time.
yes, but I did apologize for being the spelling police.


I still think you should contact your police dept...
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Spelling police is not necessary on the MTStars forums.
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But why didn't you just call anonymously? The police could have sm
taken care of it had you called anonymously. You didn't have to be outside with him while the dog was barking. I don't understand.....
Call womans shelter/police and ask them where to
x
Ask for first/last name and then call local police department
to see if they will do a check on these people to see if there are any reports of misconduct. This sounds too good to be true, actually. Light housing for free rent may lead to cleaning the pool and pressure washing the house.

I have been trying to find a room mate off Craig's List. There are many legitimate but why take a chance of ending up profiled on Nancy Grace, is my thought. Another woman I know who has done this successfully takes their name and birth date and calls the local police dept. She said when she tells them she is a single woman and about to interview a stranger for a roommate, they oblige.

I'd also say, take a gun if you have one.

Robbery is going to skyrocket in this economy. That is another concern.
You can get in trouble for being spelling police here but as far as living
where I live, these places can be rural as well as in the city- I don’t want to put up with undesirables. Take that anyway you would like.