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Drinking 9-12 beers a day means he is

Posted By: an ALCOHOLIC. - nm on 2008-08-25
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And the drinking age is....
This might have changed since my kids were growing up. When the kids and I visited Jamaica, no drinking age there and so my 15 year old son was allowed to drink, even his much younger sister could order from a bar but in the US the age was 21 and so that was what I expected out of them. I personally would hold any parents legally responsible for letting under aged kids drink at their home. I am too much of a stickler for the laws of the land.
husband's drinking
I think, from what I have read, is that he can only help himself in stopping. Has to hit bottom....after AA and being sober would be the time for your support. I think by staying with him now you will be co-inabling. He knows you are there, so he probably feels "so what, she's still here and I'm still drinking". He has to want to stop, until then he won't. Remember, it is a disease, and it can't be cured, but can be taken "one day at a time". Best of luck.
drinking for 2 years is not trying it out

Your daughter is headed down the wrong path.  If she's been smoking for 2 years, she's not trying that out anymore, either.  Apparently, both of these new habits "fit" and she's taking them home.  The fact that she says she feels relieved not having to hide it anymore is a sure sign she has no intention of quitting.  I strongly urge you to discipline her.  Children need discipline.  She may hate you for it now, but your job is to be her mother, not her friend.  Both of these habits carry dire consequence over the long-term (which I'm sure you are aware of) and both of these habits only get worse over time. 


Yes, I tried alcohol and cigarettes when I was 16 (no drugs) but only a couple of times.  To this day, I still don't like the taste of beer and never drank any other alcohol until I was over 21.  When my mom/dad found out what I was doing, I was severely disciplined - grounded, spanked (yes I said spanked at 16), and was stripped of any privileges.  This definitely deterred me from participating in these things after I was allowed to resume a normal life.  This may sound harsh, but I'm thankful today my parents put an end to it when they did.  I intend to do the same with my children.  I think that's the problem with a lot of today's youth -- they're parents are too worried about being their friend, instead of doing their job as a parent.


What is Nicki drinking?
I know she is drinking the drink that David drugged, but it looks like white wine or champagne. WTH? It certainly dosesn't look like sparkling water or whatever the recovering alcoholic normally drinks.
I would not drive after drinking it!
Use in place of wine:)
drinking soda
I think that drinking soda aggravates that. Cranberry juice and herbals teas calm this sort of thing down for me.
Legal Drinking Age
Many of the states that have chosen to specifically prohibit alcohol consumption by those under age 21 have a variety of exceptions. For example,

Some States allow an exception for consumption when a family member consents and/or is present. States vary widely in terms of which relatives may consent or must be present for this exception to apply and in what circumstances the exception applies. Sometimes a reference is made simply to "family" or "family member" without further elaboration.

....

Some States allow an exception for consumption on private property. States vary in the extent of the private property exception which may extend to all private locations, private residences only, or in the home of a parent or guardian only. In some jurisdictions, the location exception is conditional on the presence and/or consent of the parent, legal guardian, or legal-age spouse.

Some States also allow exceptions for educational purposes (e.g., students in culinary schools), religious purposes (e.g., sacramental use of alcoholic beverages), or medical purposes.

http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/LegalDrinkingAge.html

if he quits drinking and changes for the better, you have your answer
nm
Lowering the legal drinking age from 21 to 18

I didn't know this was going on.....


The article is long so I didn't copy all of it. See the link below:


College presidents from about 100 of the nation's best-known universities, including Duke, Dartmouth and Ohio State, are calling on lawmakers to consider lowering the drinking age from 21 to 18, saying current laws actually encourage dangerous binge drinking on campus.


The movement called the Amethyst Initiative began quietly recruiting presidents more than a year ago to provoke national debate about the drinking age.


"This is a law that is routinely evaded," said John McCardell, former president of Middlebury College in Vermont who started the organization.


"It is a law that the people at whom it is directed believe is unjust and unfair and discriminatory."


No, sure donot see that. Was he drinking the beer
on the unicycle? LOL
Try drinking 8 glasses of water a day...(SM)
I just spoke with a friend whose husband was advised by his doctort to drink a lot of water for his back problem. He did and it worked and he feels better overall. Could be the bones in your feet are dry and building up with calcium.
My daughter was drinking heavily, she didn't know that I knew but she would
act strange and when I would try to come close to her casually, she would pull away. I waited til she fell asleep and could smell the booze on her breath.  The next day I told her I would buy lunch if she could go grab it and when she left I went in her room and found to stashed bottle of some cheap rum.  I know it sounds bad but I put some ipecac in the bottle and then waited.  I didn't put much, but it was effective. She blew chunks and blew and blew.  She thought she just got sick, but about a week later I did it again and after she got sick that time, that was the end of her drinking.  Smart girl, eh? She somehow figured out that drinking rum made her sick!  I may sound like a terrible mom, but I also don't have a drunk for daughter now either.
Red Cross told me excessive tea drinking could cause anemia.
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Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinking.
 Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking. 
 Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines
Try drinking lots of water today, bet you feel at least nm
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It's the other guy's wife that's strange. I can see guys drinking, watching
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I would have called the police right from the start, especially with underage drinking.
the mother could be brought up on charges of furnishing aldohol to minors for starters. Don't put up with it for another minute. The police will not tell who called, they just show up on the door step and take care of business.

Good luck.
EXCUSE ME! Smoking and/or drinking does not make you a bad parent! sm
I smoke. I drink margaritas when I choose too. This does not have any effect on how I raise my children. One is a straight A student. The third is an average student. Then I have my 21yo who is excelling in the nursing program and just told me tonight I was a great mom no matter how she used to argue with me, which she did and regularly. Smoking and/or drinking does not play a role in life unless you are an alcoholic. Just because someone drinks, they are not and guess what... they can still be a mom/dad and raise wonderful children.

If you want to pick something that is wrong, how about a church that teaches children to fast when they are only 11 and already underweight (not mine but a friend's). That is more wrong.
It is just like drinking Coors light determines you will have a boy baby and Miller Lite a girl. sm
I have heard that actually; however, it is not true.

I did hear that too much Mountain Dew makes one impotent!

Don't know who dreams this stuff up, but I would have to say it is not true at all. My hubby only drinks Coors Light and we have a boy and a girl, go figure! LOL
It means...

I don't care for organized religion. I believe there are some truths in most religions - the Golden Rule, live a life of moderation, try to make the world a better place. I believe there are spiritual aspects to our existence, that we are not just bones and skin and blood, we are something more. As to exactly what that "more" consists of - I read, I study, I learn, I experience....maybe one day I'll figure it out. Or maybe not.


Don't know if this answers your question, but it's the best I can do.


perhaps? That means maybe...
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So that means don't put his name in
the hat for gift exchange or expect him to help decorate or attend a party. I think the amount the company spends per employee on any parties (if they are the ones paying) could simply be given to him as a check. Other employees could be told they have this option also. Maybe there is somebody else who thinks it's a lot of nonsense but just kept their mouth shut, but now they have the option of getting a check.

That's what I'd do if I were the OM or giving ideas to the OM. I'd still decorate if the majority want to, but avoid using real greenery for a completely different reason - a lot of people are now extremely allergic to Christmas trees or boughs that have been treated with some chemical to extend their life.
what it means
When he calls you that name, it means he has contempt for you. When he projects everything to be your fault, he also holds you in contempt. This is verbal and emotional abuse. As far as punching the wall, the wall is the stand in for what he would like to do to you and he may eventually punch you. Take it from me, who was called every dirty name ever invented by my spouse and whose doors and walls had holes and dents.

I would put your well-being and that of your child first and seek therapy. It would be great if he went, but he sees you as the problem, and he may refuse to go. You can't fix him. He needs to fix himself.

As much as you may not want to hear this, leaving him may be the best thing for your own sanity and self-preservation and also so your child doesn't have to grow up in that environment.

If you can't afford therapy, there may be a battered woman's group in your area that can give you information and advice. I utilized my local group and found it very helpful.

The only regret that I have about my marriage is that I stayed in it far too long.
means.
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I think she means
that with unstable dry sand, or even with sand of a wetter consistency, if a hole is too deep (over a child's head)it is possible for them to be in the hole and the sides collapse in on top of them. Just inform your kids that they cannot dig over a foot or so deep; make whatever limit you feel safe with. There's nothing to fear if they keep it shallow.

This happened to a man I knew years ago with dirt, not sand, but I agree it would be possible in sand and probably easier done. He was working in a ditch deeper than he was tall, and when it collapsed on top of him, it killed him. I do believe that is what 'SM' is warning against.
And that means?
Marriage is mostly a gamble. Some turn out alright, some don’t. I think it has nothing to do with the fact of the friend spilling her soul to a daughter.
thank you so much that means a lot to me
i'm in tears. I'm so glad you are happy.
No, I would not go. If that means he goes and you spend TG by yourself so be it.
After enduring 13 years of the "in-laws" I gave my husband an ultimatum - either them or me and I meant it. I was not putting up with them anymore. Fortunately, he chose me and his kids, and our lives have been so peaceful for the past 6 years without them in it! I just severed the ties.

Good luck with your situation. I really feel for you.

My mom always says "stay away from those who disrupt your inner peace." I listened to her advice.
I could be wrong but I think the OP means....sm

I read the OP's post as meaning if HEAVEN FORBID something happened either to their relationship (breaking up for example) or to her DH (heaven forbid but we don't know around the corner, eh?) - that she perhaps might want more children (with a 2nd husband is how I read this).  I don't read it as selfish - I read it as WHAT IF HE DIES.......and she chooses to get remarried or WHAT IF THEY DIVORCE and she chooses to get remarried. 


So, yeah, to the OP - the post made some *sense* to me as you were hoping it made to most of us.  Best luck! 


I don't think he is spoiled by any means..sm
he just likes natural food. There is nothing wrong with that. If it was my kitty though, and this is not meant to be judgemental so please don't take it that way, I would probably delay the vacation until the kitty was a little older. But that's just me.
The word means to
water something down, not meaning neuter. IF you have a concetrated solution, you can put water in and that would so call neutralize it. Two completely different words.
I think a *record* means NOTHING if you have to - sm
CHEAT (i.e., steroids) in order to achieve it. He's still so OBVIOUSLY all 'roided up.... puffy face, oversized neck, etc. Heck, if I shot all that junk into my body, I could probably hit just as many homers out of the park, and I don't even play baseball!

I'm just SO thankful they didn't interrupt *Big Brother* to bring us the *news*.
yes, it means something to the Jewis and to
A little cultural education about others goes a long, long way!!  You might want to check into it......
It means, that back then you were in the sm
midst of full living and happiness with important people in your life. To pay attention to now because now is here and you should be creating happiness at this moment so when you look back you can say, ahhh, that was all good. You deserve to be happy. So if your not, find a way. If you are, be aware of it and count your blessings!
I think it means sharp tap.
Kind of like a teacher might do on her desk to get the class' attention.
I think it means you are still willing to learn (sm)
Something I have noticed about being "defined" is that sometimes it gets in the way of learning something new or even correcting old cherished ideas that are really wrong.

I have come to have definite and convictions about things, but it took time and something I still do is draw contrasts with other ideas to see if I still am comfortable thinking the way I do. Some things I have become more sure of, some refined and others discarded.

If I was going to give advice, I would say to keep asking questions about things and when you get answers, analyze whether they really make sense. It sounds like that is already what you do. As you go, you will become more sure about some things you believe now and other things are yet to be discovered.

One more thing I would advise: Keep an open mind and don't discount anyone as possibly having the information you need to find what is right and true.


No, it means you had sex on the same night, 13
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Thank you for caring. It means a lot.
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I think OP means she would use the terms
mentally handicapped or mentally challenged. At least those are the terms I usually hear now-a-days. Good luck to you and your family.
We always have it the night of. Which means
if they set the date for that weekend, it will "interfere" with the rehearsal, dinner, etc.
Let him join 4H by all means

My neice has participated in 4H going on her 5th year since she was 8.  jShes' now 12 and she shows her horse, plus she does enters cooking projects, art, scrapbooking, and crafts.  There are so many different interests and programs for any kid.  Besides horses, there are rabbits and guinea pigs, plus all the assorted farm animals.  There's archery and competetive shooting.  Public speaking, woodworking, art projects, cooking, sewing, dog training, just about anything you can think of.  Your son doesn't not have to have a horse to participate.  Join a club that has a horse group.  A lot of times the leaders have horses they'll loan a kid for the year or know someone who will.  Don't let that stop you.  If you're in a position to do it, you can lease a horse.  That's what we did at first, we leased her horse for 6 months and then ended up buying him.  4H helps keep them out of trouble.  Teaches them responsibility and gives them self-esteem.  It's a family organization, so you and your husband can partiicipate if you like, they're always looking for adult volunteers.  Check with the county extension office where you live or in another county, if you like.  You should be able to find info online.  There's no residency requirement.  Tell them what you're looking for and they'll try to find a club that's a good fit for your son. 


Your dad having a girlfriend means nothing really
Your dad is in love with your mom. I don't know who initiated the divorce, but it seems very obvious your dad is still in love with your mom. Having a girlfriend is just to keep him from feeling so alone, but she obviously doesn't fill that void he has, which is his family and wanting that life he had. YOU are his family, you and your mom were the life he had; divorce doesn't make those feelings go away. I'm sure he does come by to see what your mom is doing or if she is at home but no doubt he just misses that closeness with you as well.

He wants to still know he has a family..... his girlfriend certainly isn't filling that void.
By all means, keep the vet appointment sm
just to make sure of what's going on. She could have just about anything, from arthritis, tendinitis, Lyme, or even a blood clot. I'm glad the med is helping her. Is it Rimadyl? I would avoid using aspirin until you hear from the vet.

Yes, like I said, by all means go to Al-Anon. sm
You work the Al-Anon program for yourself and not for the alcoholic. You'll be more than glad you did. Not to necessarily save your marriage, but to save YOURSELF.
this usually means some atypical cells
were seen - usually nothing diagnostic - sometimes something treatable (in which case I would think they would give you a script) like yeast.  They are not worried, just want to make sure that it is okay in 6 months or if it isn't then it may be something diagnostic.  It happened to me once - think it may also have been after relatively recent birth.  Shakes you up but it is probably okay.  
at their age, they know what "at work" means, and-
nm
I don't either. If she loves your brother, that means she SM
should love you too, or, at the very least, respect the love you have for one other. She doesn't seem very loving.

My stepdaughter just got booted out of house by my stepson DH bought for the two of them by his new girlfriend. Doesn't exactly sound like love.

If you love man, you must love family or at least try to get along.

Sorry you had a bad time. Again, I don't understand this behavior. Life is easier when all get along and life is too darn short.
lol, nope not offended at all. Not sure what that means actually.
But, yes, you would think, right? But nope! Actually I have been going to the up-scale and very expensive salons where they have spas and serve you lattes and finger sandwiches by choice hoping I will get good results and they are the ones I have the most problems with!

If you read my other post, where I mentioned the bleach products and what I said about the expensive versus the cheaper products, you'd see what I mean.

But thanks!
I know for a fact that you dreaming of your ex means sm
that you are "yearning" for a closeness like you once felt. If you are married or have been for a long time, when you are neglected emotionally, spiritually and physically, your body goes back to something you once had that was good.
I don't know if it is our subconscience trying to tell us something (like leave your loser husband if he's not doing a thing for you), but it's saying something to us.

In any case, that's what they usually mean.
One can't put a price tag on what Christmas really means but...sm
if we didn't set limits/budgets in our household then we'd end up spending a cazillion bucks on the season. Having limits set helps keeps us on track of not getting carried away buying gifts yet lets us purchase gifts for people to Celebrate the season.... just as the wise men took gifts when Jesus was born to celebrate his birth. Setting limits gives everyone who is buying in our family line parameters for what kind of gifts they need to look at. Fortunately no one in our family line needs anything per se but that doesn't mean you shouldn't give them a gift. We do buy gifts in addition for foster kids and that comes from a different section of our family budget.
Yes. And discipline means desciple.
Parents are to provide discipline, desciple means one who is taught. Spare the rod means let them do whatever feels right. Well, in the real world that is a dangerous way to approach life. So, to me spare the rod means if you don't set boundaries, spoil the child, you have a child always testing boundaries who will someday have no or little morals. At least that is my idea of the saying.