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Love birds, too, but once you get hit on the head or in your eye with a plop of poop,

Posted By: that pretty much ends the desire to feed 'em! ; on 2007-06-17
In Reply to: sea gull opinions -- i really angered a woman today - XanaX

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Fun, huh? I love watching the birds
and I have my desk set up by the picture window so I can watch them and the squirrels, too.  I have a pair of red-breasted nuthatches that are regular visitors to my back yard.  They are new here this year and they are just adorable.  We also have a few Cooper hawks that cause trouble from time to time.  My favorite bird is a Carolina wren.  The bird I would like to see most is a pileated woodpecker.  Do you have a back yard list or just a life list?  I only have the back yard list.
would love to slap more than a dish towel on his head!!!
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You must eat where you poop since you talk out

Cities scare the poop out of me...

I don't even like to visit cities, much less live in one.  I lived 20 minutes outside of Boston my whole life and NEVER visited it for funsies.  I only went there as a kid for field trips, and to Logan Airport a few times as an adult.  I have some sort of meltdown/panic disorder when it comes to traffic, tunnels, tall buildings, and angry people...which are plentiful in that neck of the woods.  Everyone all hopped up on their fancy-pants Starbucks shouting all angry-like on their cell phones...gives me the heebs just thinkin' about it!


Yep, whole other food chain those cities are. 


Get rid of the cat? Seriously, this is like having babies and asking how to keep poop off the diaper
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You know mascara is made with bat poop, right? nm
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Oh! Head in the SAND! I thought you said head in the CAN!
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You bet! Their poop is greasy and foul-smelling! Ugh..If the room can't
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Animals are desireable, the unwanted poop in my yard is not. nm
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birds

Your Goffin found a perfect home!  That's EXACTLY what they want and need!!


I had a pink Mollucan (like a Goffin but bigger) who was my "baby" and she too had to be held all the time with her head resting on my chest or she'd scream so loud you could hear her houses down the block from me.  Sometimes only the hard of hearing can find them to be acceptable pets because of this but they are SO affectionate!!!  They are said to have the intelligence and demanding nature of a toddler.  Your former Macaw comes in at around a 5- to 7-year-old.  Greys are rated at 9 years old intelligence-wise but I disagree and think Macaws and Greys rate higher based on owning many and seeing what they can do.  I've bred/owned many kinds of birds for many years.  If you want a small parrot who just pretty much sits and thinks and keeps quiet but is company, get an Eclectus.  They are affectionate but quiet and pretty much trouble free, not obsessed with curiosity like a Grey!  Pionus are good too. 


Just watch whatever you use around the house that has an odor or scent.  Birds can die in a matter of minutes before you realize what is happening.  Reptiles react too so be careful with them.  And never use Lysol around a rabbit, especially to clean the cage.   


Feel free to e-mail me if I can ever be of any help.  I'm posting this here in case others watching this thread have birds, use candles and self-cleaning ovens and Teflon, especially this time of the year. 


birds
I am originally from NY/NJ and am fairly new to NC but last week saw a whole bunch of robins in the yard.  I thought it was early for them.  Then, we had snow.  Does anyone know what is going on?  Also, have what I think is a hawk that I see all the time on the roof top across the street.  He has a tail with strips.  I think it is a hawk.  Amazing..
Birds of a feather....
well you get the idea. I just saw a picture of them in my weekly dirt magazines so guess they are still hanging out.
Cats eat birds.
I no longer put feeders anywhere near my yard but I'm not going to punish my cat for eating a bird.
Watching birds
That is so cool. I know there are lots of beautiful birds around here (N FL), including woodpeckers (have pecked trees to prove it lol), but I never thought to actually watch and document them.

The other night around 1 a.m. I was walking my dogs and there were probably 4 or 5 owls (I counted 4 for sure) situated within may a 100-yard radius. They kept 'talking' to each other. Each would repeat the previous 'chant.' It was really interesting to listen to them. They really had a rhythm goin'!

My son's GF said she saw a hawk on the fence a couple days ago. Wish I could have seen that!

But... shameless confession... my favorite bird is the vulture. They are magnificent... I know many people don't like them because of what they do for a livelihood, but I love them.

Anyhow... happy bird-watching. And thanks for sparking a potential hobby over here :-)
Complaints about birds sm
Have one of those neighbors who complains about everything, dogs, cats, and birds. I have a few feeders, do not feed from the ground, etc. Anyway, even in this cold northeast weather, I can hear the birds chirping away. I tell my husband they are saying "thanks for keeping up the feeding," as many must be totally confused with the on-off weather we had this winter. Week after Christmas it was near 70 one day. I love the cardinals and we have one what we call "crazy bird" who loves to make noise in the dark. I will not stop feeding my feathered friends, use squirrel-proof feeders but find some, along with cats, will sit under the feeders just hoping to get themselves a bird who happens to be within reach. Haven't seen a "capture" yet. How can people complain about birds? Geez, I love to hear them sing and I love it in the summer when they keep the bugs off my flowers. I guess I'm just venting. I don't understand how people can hate animals, birds included. BTW I have 3 feeders, one back, front and side, not an over-abundance.They say they like to keep pristine cars and property. In my mind, they may as well be dead.
Because wild birds are not usually fed
grain that has been tampered with by man and has all kinds of questionable additives, and even usually contains dead chicken waste.  I grew up in the poultry capital of the US and it's a wonder I even still eat chicken!
feed the birds
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Eye_Is_on_the_Sparrow
Snakes mean one thing to birds......
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Speaking of cats getting birds...sm
We have 2 feral cats that we feed (they've been trapped, spayed/neutered, vaccinated, then released, as the feral cat groups advise). They're actually very tame with us now. We've named them Isabelle and Nigel.

We have a covered patio area, almost entirely enclosed, where we feed them and have beds for them, so our dogs can't get to them (we call it the *cat house* LOL).

About a month ago, we went out to feed the cats at night, as usual, when what should fly into the cat house but a baby/young bird! It caught Isabelle's eye *immediately* (Nigel didn't seem to notice/care) but it was up high and she didn't move towards it. She seemed to be more focused on my husband as he prepared her food. I thought about trying to shoo the bird away with a broom, but I didn't want to startle it and send it right towards the cats.

Well, next thing you know, the baby bird decides it's time to fly away. As soon as it did, Isabelle took off after it at warp speed. It was amazing, really. She was up and over the fence after it in the blink of an eye. We stood there in shock, thinking there's *no way* she could have caught it. She was too far away from it when it took off. But then a few seconds later she jumped over the fence back into the cat house with it in her mouth, already dead.

Poor little thing. I wonder whatever possessed it to come in the cat house with 2 humans and 2 cats, at night. So sad, but that's the circle of life, I guess. ;o(
You were surprised she got it? A cat's instincts for birds, especially, are sm
great. They keep their eyes on it and it's over. Especially a young one. So sad. I hate the circle of life. All of our goats were attacked and killed by neighborhood dogs a few weeks ago and people are telling me, "Oh well, that's what dogs do!" I wanted to slap them.


I feed birds on the lake
quite often and really enjoyed doing it. I have seen others do as well and I do not see them becoming aggressive as a result of this. I also see the geeze and ducks feeding on their own when not being fed by humans. I have deer in my neighborhood and as much as I would love to feed, know this is not a good idea and should not so I don’t. I think that other mother is a total jerk for her reaction, though.
Not nice to insult birds like that. nm
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Birds and Mother Nature sm
The birds tell us a lot. The morning of the Great Blizzard of ྊ I could not hear myself think for the noise of the birds everywhere. I live in the NE, I had a feeling they were trying to tell us something. I packed up everything I had that day and left for home and stocked up. I was not able to get out for the whole next week and my husband could not get home. I was fully prepared, but did not know for what. They do warn us! Lots of acorns here this year as well which means it is supposed to be a bad winter. The same thing happened in 1978 with the acorns. We shall see!!
I have been noticing birds at night
also. I did find out some owls don't sound like owls at all, so that might be one explanation, but it is very strange to be walking the dogs and having birds calling out. Or being in the house and coming outside at midnight to see why birds are squawking.
Used to have one at Wild Birds Unlimited
think there is a web site - that was mirrored on the other side.  It has been a while but they had one at their store where I shopped and the goldfinches were right there outside the window totally oblivious. 
The Birds by Alfred Hitchcock.
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Small birds keep nesting in my ferns on the
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Have seen lots of birds do this with those fake bird-like
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Just something so soothing about watching birds. BTW, one of my cats
defintely knows there is a new bird in the house. Don't worry, it is impossible for him to get to them. Still working on a name, my daughter went to the site suggested above and has a list for me.
My kitty has her own video, with birds, squirrels, etc. - sm
She gets a real kick out of it, especially the moths and the chipmunks. She always trys to reach out and grab the chipmunk!

Now that it's summer, though, I've got bird seed and hummingbird feeders outside the window, so she can watch the REAL THING all day long.
global warming...I'm in S. Florida and birds

this is NOT normal......been in Florida 30 years and never heard birds in the middle of the night unless one is in the Everglades....and I'm not located there.


Been going on for almost a year.........it's very bizarre to me.


I'm in SoFla, but have my air conditioner on to sleep. Birds
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The birds in my yard need body guards
I have a few birdfeeders out in front of my office window for something to enjoy while I'm working. The squirrels come and the birds visit. Lately there has been a hawk (for lack of knowledge I'll just call it a hawk, it's some kind of big predator), swooping through and picking off birds right off the feeders, and now it has even tried to fly off with the squirrels.  He sits up in my trees and waits to attack. Now I fully know this is the way of nature and he needs to eat to, but does he have to do it while I'm watching. Is there anything I can do to get rid of him (keep him away, not kill him or anything)?
things that kill birds and their care

You have to be careful what is in the candles. I don't burn them with birds around.  Self-cleaning ovens will also immediately kill birds, as will a Teflon-coated pan that overheats.  Also be careful with home permanent solutions, room deodorizers, and DO NOT USE FEBREZE (yes, I am shouting because so many people use this and it is a KILLER for birds).  Just be careful with any of these types of things.  Birds are ultra sensative to inhalants.  Better not to use them at all. 


Regarding the eggs, if you remove them she will just lay more before she's had a proper rest and that will deplete her of calcium. While she's sitting on her eggs, her body is rebuiding for the next clutch.  Try to find things that resemble the eggs in size and color, like marbles, beads, etc.  Put them in place of the eggs.  Don't let her see you doing this.  Warm them in your hands first (NOT HOT) and sneak them in one at a time when she's not looking.  She should sit on them and you can pitch the eggs.  But let her sit until SHE abandons them so that she maintains proper calcium.


Also, if the eggs aren't fertile, there is no problem in letting her sit on them.  Take them out and hold them up to a light, like a light bulb or a flashlight, and look into the egg.  If you see red lines or a solid dark mass, you've got babies.  If you see just space and yolk, you've got a dud.  She can sit on duds and get her rest and you won't have to worry about babies.  Not all eggs are duds, though.  You have to look at each one.  Date them lightly in PENCIL and then you can tell when you last looked and keep checking until you're sure they are duds. 


Keep plenty of cuttlebone around for her calcium and sprinkle baby bird handfeeding formula on her food to give her extra supplements for the egg laying whether duds or not.  It's good for her.  Even if you don't want babies, her body needs to be replenished with this stuff to keep her healthy. This is a good treat anytime for a bird. 


I'm sorry to hear about your experience with babies before.  Many times the youngest die in the next because the larger ones get on top of them and they don't get the food. Finches are tricky.  I'm crazy about them but they do need careful watching.  Parrots are SO much easier to raise!!!  Guess you don't want to suggest that to your kids, though LOL!!! 


Feel free to e-mail if you have questions!


I feel like I am in an Alfred Hitchcock movie, The Birds.
I am sitting here at home, at my desk, and a bunch of black birds are flying past my window.  When I got up to look out my window, and my front entire front lawn and side lawn are covered with black birds.  Glad I am not in a phone booth.  Very strange to have so many of them in one place.  Guess they are getting ready to go south for the winter, but today it feels like a muggy summer day, 70 degrees at 9 a.m. in northern NJ.
I LOVE love love shallots! I use them in everything that calls for an onion and/or garlic. Mmmmmm. n
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American Idol - Love, love, love Adam!!!
I think he'll make it til the end! At least I hope so!


Thanks for the head up!
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I think you hit it on the head with that one. NM
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It sure looks like we could head toward ...sm
a great depression. Well about the questions. My mom is queen of stocking up. I do some too. But not like her. I need to do it more. But the things you stock up on are like mostly things that will stay good a while like can items and flour and corn meal and cooking oil and cereals. Just look at the dates and see when it expires so you can see how long it will stay good. Canned items you have a few years usually. Stock up on drinks, tea, coffee, sugar. My mom puts sugar, flour, and corn meal and rice and things like that in stock piles in her freezer. It will keep a long time in there. What my mom does and me too is look in the sale paper at the grocery store and when something goes on sale and is a good deal buy plenty. Like one time they put hamburger helper on sale for $1 a box and my mom bought 10 of them. Just look for good cheap deals and stock up. Toilet paper too. Paper towels. Soap. Whatever. Just when you catch sales get a little here and there and put it up. Don't go spend a fortune in one day.
As far as shortages of food I have no idea.
$4 a head?!?!

Wow.  Plotzing right next to you.  jeez.


I put up a greenhouse last year, which I love.  It's still being tweaked so I haven't completely maximized its use yet, but all my plants made it through its first winter.  We even planned ahead and my handyman ran electric and water into it, so it's pretty self contained. 


I love growing things, but don't necessarily like to be outside for the growing of them.  Weird, I know.  Plus, the greenhouse lets me stay away from my creepy neighbor who makes passes at me while his ailing/dying wife is inside. 


The other thing that I've started doing to try to cut costs is hanging the clothes out on a line.  I've seen a lot of comments about that lately, too.   I'm really curious to see how much of a difference that makes on the old electric bill.


 


I think your gut has already told you what your head
knows - avoid this change at all costs.  I won't go into all the reasons I would avoid because you know them in your heart - best of luck!
Wow. You SO hit the nail on the head with this one--sm
It seriously sounds like you have been there before and found your way out of it somehow. I so applaud your way of helping this poor exhausted woman, and I feel badly for her, because I have been there too. My ex was ALOT like this, controlling, passive-aggressive, and had a very abusive anger problem, as well. She did not state how long she has been with this man, but if things don't change, I fear abuse may be the next step. In my experience, people like this do not change. You do. Sometimes the only way to change the situation is to leave it, entirely. forever. I am also sorry to say that when I left my ex after 13 years of abusive control, he moved on to the next one...she took her own life after 14 years due to the same treatment. He married again after that, with the roles reversed and his wife controlling him...he took his own life last year. The ones who suffer? the children. MY children, his children, who will never be the same because of all of this. Think about all of this *exhausted*. It is only meant to help you open your eyes, see your options, and ACT on them...for your sake, and your children. Hugs to you, as well. Your post brought back some very unpleasant memories for me. Good luck to you!!!
The coroner's head . . .
What's with Anna Nicole's coroner's head.  Has anyone else noticed this?  The left side of his head is just out of wack.  Do you think he has craniosynostosis? 
his head IS very very bizarre
I also noticed this.  I have never seen anything like it in my life!  It almost looks like part of his skull is gone.  I kept staring yet didn't want to look, if you know what I mean!
Did you hit your head before or after fainting?
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When I got this flu, I did have a touch of the tummy trouble, but no fainting. But both sides of my neck were very sore to the touch. Must have been nodes, but weird that it was such large areas. I took Tamiflu, and the neck soreness went away, but I still had chills and exhaustion for 2 weeks.
my mom said same thing about wet head...

it's like if you spill the salt, it's bad luck....these are old *wives tales* perpetuated WAY_BACK_WHEN....a.k.a. superstitions for some of them...


don't walk under a ladder


don't let a black cat cross your path


swallow a watermelon pit and you grow a watermelon in tummy


swallow a piece of gum and it stays in your system for 7 years or clogs you up


(Most of them are ridiculous and a waste of time)....I have owned black cat(s), purposefully walked under ladders, spilled salt and think nothing of it, swallowed gum and/or small pits of fruits, and I'M STILL KICKIN.......and getting OLDER THAN DIRT *L*



 


you hit the nail on the head! Thank you for saying better than me. sm

He did not offer to pay for the car.  When you are in marching band in high school you don't always have the luxury of working. He taught music lessons.  That was enough for spending money not car payments.  He has a scholarship but other than that I pay for everything.


We had a good talk this afternoon.  I told him that there would come a time in the not too distant future when that trip would be allowed.  However, I want a phone call before he leaves and one when he gets there.  I want to know he made it safely.  Honestly, I told him I was not mad about this and I understood that he wanted to see her, but lying is wrong.  End of story.  When I asked him if he was there I wouldn't have been near as upset if he had told me the truth but he kept digging his hole deeper and deeper.


 I don't know what my husband is going to decide to do about the car.  I asked him to consider leaving it.  I told him I don't think my son will do it again.  I told him that it is important that the girlfriend's parents like him and pulling crap like this is not going to endear them to him. 


I put the idea in my husband's mind that maybe he could take a picture of the speedometer when he gets there tonight so that we know the milage.  He is going to talk to him tonight.  If he did that, he will still have local use of his car.  I don't know.  Everyone is pretty upset right now. Me, my husband, my son, his girlfriend, her parents.   


I actually think that maybe he understand where I am coming from.  I reminded him what if I got a phone call saying he was in an accident and severely hurt or worse and I think he is safe at school. 


Wow - you hit the nail on the head - for me (sm)
"...hung onto the relationshipeve afer it was obviously not good for us. I think we just had to prove that we were good enough to be loved." That is exactly how I ended up in this marriage and exactly why I have been in it for so long. I was so determined to prove that I was good enough to be loved. Unfortunately, now there are children involved and I have to figure out what is best for them.
My mom always held my car over my head....

and it honestly just encouraged me to lie to her.  My kids are younger, so God only knows what I'll do when they are teenagers, as I know that is a very hard time, but your son is in college now, and I think it is reasonable for him to want to drive to see his girlfriend on weekends.  I was always a pretty honest kid with my mom, but losing my car was a big deal, so I did lie to her from time to time, because even though I felt bad lying it didn't feel as bad as losing my car would have!


Is your son maintaining good grades?  If so, I wouldn't worry about his texting or how much he is talking to his girlfriend, because I honestly think that is his business and he will have to learn some hard lessons by messing up - not by having his mom tell him how life is all the time.  Sometimes you have to learn that you can fall and pick yourself back up.  If he is getting really bad grades, however, then of course you should step in because you don't want him messing up that scholarship!  I'm already afraid for when my boys go off to college because I know how much many college kids drink and party and am afraid they will drink too much or something and get hurt, but if your son is just wanting to see his girlfriend then that might actually keep him from partying as much as other college kids.  Are you just worried that he will get hurt on the drive to see her or something?  Does he have a safe car?


I would say just be careful.  If this girlfriend is really nice and he feels like you "messed up" his relationship with her in any way he might try to get back at you by dating a "lesser quality" girl or something.  Good luck to you.  I'm sure this is a difficult situation, but it's great he got a scholarship and is a good kid overall.


I eat different from hubs because I'm the veg head & he
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