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You were surprised she got it? A cat's instincts for birds, especially, are sm

Posted By: OP on 2007-04-26
In Reply to: Speaking of cats getting birds...sm - GLF

great. They keep their eyes on it and it's over. Especially a young one. So sad. I hate the circle of life. All of our goats were attacked and killed by neighborhood dogs a few weeks ago and people are telling me, "Oh well, that's what dogs do!" I wanted to slap them.




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You have to follow your instincts and
A therapist ideally really should be able to adjust their style to the needs of the client. In the end, what matters is are you making progress? ... is she helping you address the issues you came to her with in a way that is meaningful to you? ... and is she challenging you emotionally? It reminds me of the movie, Girl Interrupted, where Angelina Jolie's character is lamenting that nobody cared enough to push her buttons. It's one thing to be a friend who is supportive and accepting of one as they already are. It's another to not care enough to "push the right buttons" to help someone challenge their shortcomings.

It sounds like you have examined this relationship and find it lacking. There is no shame in telling someone, even a therapist, that you are not getting out the relationship as much as you are putting into it (in this instance, a lot of money). At least you can say learning to trust your instincts is one thing you did get out of the relationship.
Follow your instincts
I had this happen years ago with my brother. I tried to make him realize I didn't do what he thought, but he wouldn't budge. I chalk it up as a lesson learned in life, you can't make another person think or believe anything they don't want to. If I dwell on it, it still burns me up, so I try to leave it behind. Anyway, trust your instincts, they will never let you down.
Use your motherly instincts and keep
your child safe. I live in Georgia and we hear of so many accidents involving children and ATVs. No one can replace your child if something should happen. You know what to do.
Use your motherly instincts
You have a right to have normal motherly instincts, and I think you know what those are with regard to this situation. A 4-wheeler is not safe enough for a child of that age, and your MIL should know that. Even adults have been killed in accidents with these vehicles, even when they are driven safely, but too much can happen. There is no real protection for children on these vehicles, and she can easily be thrown from one. Just think, you put your child in a safety restraint seat in your car for a reason, these vehicles have no protection, and she is not old enough to protect herself should something go wrong, so definitely I would not even think about putting a child on something like this.

Just tell your MIL the same things I have told you politely. If she puts up a fuss, just ignore her and think about the safety of your child first. My daughter lives on a farm and would not even let my grandson set foot on one of these until he was over 8.
Trust your instincts. nm
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Thanks so much! I went and got Clairol natural instincts
sunflower medium golden blonde - the one that washes out after 28 shampoos and doesn't lift or lighten because I was a little afraid to try that right now. I will tell you it straightened this mess right up! At least now all of the highlights appear the same color and are more golden, it is just overall darker than I would like but still much more flattering than what I had. When this starts to wash out I will go to Sally's and maybe try an overall lighter color as you suggest. Hopefully when all is said and done I won't even have to go to the salons anymore for color and pay them hundreds of dollars for a lousy job. I am a little annoyed because I did put out over $200 between the highlights and cut and tip but I guess I'll get over it :(

Thank you to all who helped! I feel so much better! I really am thankful for this board!
My instincts are telling me you're right (sm)
He seems so genuine and grateful and tells me how much he loves me all the time...but I have a feeling that when I wasn't coming through with cash he found someone else who would. I know he really does "need" the money, but I guess he will get it however he can.
birds

Your Goffin found a perfect home!  That's EXACTLY what they want and need!!


I had a pink Mollucan (like a Goffin but bigger) who was my "baby" and she too had to be held all the time with her head resting on my chest or she'd scream so loud you could hear her houses down the block from me.  Sometimes only the hard of hearing can find them to be acceptable pets because of this but they are SO affectionate!!!  They are said to have the intelligence and demanding nature of a toddler.  Your former Macaw comes in at around a 5- to 7-year-old.  Greys are rated at 9 years old intelligence-wise but I disagree and think Macaws and Greys rate higher based on owning many and seeing what they can do.  I've bred/owned many kinds of birds for many years.  If you want a small parrot who just pretty much sits and thinks and keeps quiet but is company, get an Eclectus.  They are affectionate but quiet and pretty much trouble free, not obsessed with curiosity like a Grey!  Pionus are good too. 


Just watch whatever you use around the house that has an odor or scent.  Birds can die in a matter of minutes before you realize what is happening.  Reptiles react too so be careful with them.  And never use Lysol around a rabbit, especially to clean the cage.   


Feel free to e-mail me if I can ever be of any help.  I'm posting this here in case others watching this thread have birds, use candles and self-cleaning ovens and Teflon, especially this time of the year. 


birds
I am originally from NY/NJ and am fairly new to NC but last week saw a whole bunch of robins in the yard.  I thought it was early for them.  Then, we had snow.  Does anyone know what is going on?  Also, have what I think is a hawk that I see all the time on the roof top across the street.  He has a tail with strips.  I think it is a hawk.  Amazing..
Birds of a feather....
well you get the idea. I just saw a picture of them in my weekly dirt magazines so guess they are still hanging out.
Cats eat birds.
I no longer put feeders anywhere near my yard but I'm not going to punish my cat for eating a bird.
Watching birds
That is so cool. I know there are lots of beautiful birds around here (N FL), including woodpeckers (have pecked trees to prove it lol), but I never thought to actually watch and document them.

The other night around 1 a.m. I was walking my dogs and there were probably 4 or 5 owls (I counted 4 for sure) situated within may a 100-yard radius. They kept 'talking' to each other. Each would repeat the previous 'chant.' It was really interesting to listen to them. They really had a rhythm goin'!

My son's GF said she saw a hawk on the fence a couple days ago. Wish I could have seen that!

But... shameless confession... my favorite bird is the vulture. They are magnificent... I know many people don't like them because of what they do for a livelihood, but I love them.

Anyhow... happy bird-watching. And thanks for sparking a potential hobby over here :-)
Complaints about birds sm
Have one of those neighbors who complains about everything, dogs, cats, and birds. I have a few feeders, do not feed from the ground, etc. Anyway, even in this cold northeast weather, I can hear the birds chirping away. I tell my husband they are saying "thanks for keeping up the feeding," as many must be totally confused with the on-off weather we had this winter. Week after Christmas it was near 70 one day. I love the cardinals and we have one what we call "crazy bird" who loves to make noise in the dark. I will not stop feeding my feathered friends, use squirrel-proof feeders but find some, along with cats, will sit under the feeders just hoping to get themselves a bird who happens to be within reach. Haven't seen a "capture" yet. How can people complain about birds? Geez, I love to hear them sing and I love it in the summer when they keep the bugs off my flowers. I guess I'm just venting. I don't understand how people can hate animals, birds included. BTW I have 3 feeders, one back, front and side, not an over-abundance.They say they like to keep pristine cars and property. In my mind, they may as well be dead.
Because wild birds are not usually fed
grain that has been tampered with by man and has all kinds of questionable additives, and even usually contains dead chicken waste.  I grew up in the poultry capital of the US and it's a wonder I even still eat chicken!
feed the birds
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Eye_Is_on_the_Sparrow
Snakes mean one thing to birds......
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Speaking of cats getting birds...sm
We have 2 feral cats that we feed (they've been trapped, spayed/neutered, vaccinated, then released, as the feral cat groups advise). They're actually very tame with us now. We've named them Isabelle and Nigel.

We have a covered patio area, almost entirely enclosed, where we feed them and have beds for them, so our dogs can't get to them (we call it the *cat house* LOL).

About a month ago, we went out to feed the cats at night, as usual, when what should fly into the cat house but a baby/young bird! It caught Isabelle's eye *immediately* (Nigel didn't seem to notice/care) but it was up high and she didn't move towards it. She seemed to be more focused on my husband as he prepared her food. I thought about trying to shoo the bird away with a broom, but I didn't want to startle it and send it right towards the cats.

Well, next thing you know, the baby bird decides it's time to fly away. As soon as it did, Isabelle took off after it at warp speed. It was amazing, really. She was up and over the fence after it in the blink of an eye. We stood there in shock, thinking there's *no way* she could have caught it. She was too far away from it when it took off. But then a few seconds later she jumped over the fence back into the cat house with it in her mouth, already dead.

Poor little thing. I wonder whatever possessed it to come in the cat house with 2 humans and 2 cats, at night. So sad, but that's the circle of life, I guess. ;o(
I feed birds on the lake
quite often and really enjoyed doing it. I have seen others do as well and I do not see them becoming aggressive as a result of this. I also see the geeze and ducks feeding on their own when not being fed by humans. I have deer in my neighborhood and as much as I would love to feed, know this is not a good idea and should not so I don’t. I think that other mother is a total jerk for her reaction, though.
Not nice to insult birds like that. nm
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Birds and Mother Nature sm
The birds tell us a lot. The morning of the Great Blizzard of ྊ I could not hear myself think for the noise of the birds everywhere. I live in the NE, I had a feeling they were trying to tell us something. I packed up everything I had that day and left for home and stocked up. I was not able to get out for the whole next week and my husband could not get home. I was fully prepared, but did not know for what. They do warn us! Lots of acorns here this year as well which means it is supposed to be a bad winter. The same thing happened in 1978 with the acorns. We shall see!!
I have been noticing birds at night
also. I did find out some owls don't sound like owls at all, so that might be one explanation, but it is very strange to be walking the dogs and having birds calling out. Or being in the house and coming outside at midnight to see why birds are squawking.
Used to have one at Wild Birds Unlimited
think there is a web site - that was mirrored on the other side.  It has been a while but they had one at their store where I shopped and the goldfinches were right there outside the window totally oblivious. 
Fun, huh? I love watching the birds
and I have my desk set up by the picture window so I can watch them and the squirrels, too.  I have a pair of red-breasted nuthatches that are regular visitors to my back yard.  They are new here this year and they are just adorable.  We also have a few Cooper hawks that cause trouble from time to time.  My favorite bird is a Carolina wren.  The bird I would like to see most is a pileated woodpecker.  Do you have a back yard list or just a life list?  I only have the back yard list.
The Birds by Alfred Hitchcock.
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Small birds keep nesting in my ferns on the
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Have seen lots of birds do this with those fake bird-like
sdf
Just something so soothing about watching birds. BTW, one of my cats
defintely knows there is a new bird in the house. Don't worry, it is impossible for him to get to them. Still working on a name, my daughter went to the site suggested above and has a list for me.
My kitty has her own video, with birds, squirrels, etc. - sm
She gets a real kick out of it, especially the moths and the chipmunks. She always trys to reach out and grab the chipmunk!

Now that it's summer, though, I've got bird seed and hummingbird feeders outside the window, so she can watch the REAL THING all day long.
global warming...I'm in S. Florida and birds

this is NOT normal......been in Florida 30 years and never heard birds in the middle of the night unless one is in the Everglades....and I'm not located there.


Been going on for almost a year.........it's very bizarre to me.


I'm in SoFla, but have my air conditioner on to sleep. Birds
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The birds in my yard need body guards
I have a few birdfeeders out in front of my office window for something to enjoy while I'm working. The squirrels come and the birds visit. Lately there has been a hawk (for lack of knowledge I'll just call it a hawk, it's some kind of big predator), swooping through and picking off birds right off the feeders, and now it has even tried to fly off with the squirrels.  He sits up in my trees and waits to attack. Now I fully know this is the way of nature and he needs to eat to, but does he have to do it while I'm watching. Is there anything I can do to get rid of him (keep him away, not kill him or anything)?
things that kill birds and their care

You have to be careful what is in the candles. I don't burn them with birds around.  Self-cleaning ovens will also immediately kill birds, as will a Teflon-coated pan that overheats.  Also be careful with home permanent solutions, room deodorizers, and DO NOT USE FEBREZE (yes, I am shouting because so many people use this and it is a KILLER for birds).  Just be careful with any of these types of things.  Birds are ultra sensative to inhalants.  Better not to use them at all. 


Regarding the eggs, if you remove them she will just lay more before she's had a proper rest and that will deplete her of calcium. While she's sitting on her eggs, her body is rebuiding for the next clutch.  Try to find things that resemble the eggs in size and color, like marbles, beads, etc.  Put them in place of the eggs.  Don't let her see you doing this.  Warm them in your hands first (NOT HOT) and sneak them in one at a time when she's not looking.  She should sit on them and you can pitch the eggs.  But let her sit until SHE abandons them so that she maintains proper calcium.


Also, if the eggs aren't fertile, there is no problem in letting her sit on them.  Take them out and hold them up to a light, like a light bulb or a flashlight, and look into the egg.  If you see red lines or a solid dark mass, you've got babies.  If you see just space and yolk, you've got a dud.  She can sit on duds and get her rest and you won't have to worry about babies.  Not all eggs are duds, though.  You have to look at each one.  Date them lightly in PENCIL and then you can tell when you last looked and keep checking until you're sure they are duds. 


Keep plenty of cuttlebone around for her calcium and sprinkle baby bird handfeeding formula on her food to give her extra supplements for the egg laying whether duds or not.  It's good for her.  Even if you don't want babies, her body needs to be replenished with this stuff to keep her healthy. This is a good treat anytime for a bird. 


I'm sorry to hear about your experience with babies before.  Many times the youngest die in the next because the larger ones get on top of them and they don't get the food. Finches are tricky.  I'm crazy about them but they do need careful watching.  Parrots are SO much easier to raise!!!  Guess you don't want to suggest that to your kids, though LOL!!! 


Feel free to e-mail if you have questions!


I was surprised, but I saw it for $1.99
NM
Here's what my son did, and I was surprised
My son has been seeing a particular dermatologist since he was 16. He's 19 now. We've NEVER waited less than 90 minutes past our appointment time to see this doc, and the longest we've waited was 2 hours and 10 minutes. We've never received explanations or even apologies. Well, one day my son missed his appointment and was charged $50. I told him that was on him. As bad as it is that we've waited for the doc in the past, it was my son's responsibility to keep the appointment when scheduled.
So my son did a little research and found out that the practice is owned by our local private hospital. He wrote a check for $50 and wrote a letter to the office manager, copied the doctor, and then copied the practice manager and whoever heads the medical practice management group at the hospital. He gave dates and lengths of waits at previous appointments. He explained that he was willing to pay for his missed appointment, but that he wanted everyone involved in the management of this dermatology practice to know that the consistently excessive waits past appointment times were not acceptable, as his time is valuable to him.
He received a letter from the practice manager who apologized and returned his check to him! We don't know if the wait times have improved at this practice, because my son decided to see another dermatologist who sees her patients on time.

Anyone surprised? Not . . .
Lindsay Lohan in jail again - what a dodo.  Can't she afford a driver?  I think she's really going down this time. 
I am surprised this still goes on,
Who would paddle her. At 14, she is a young lady. Some adults get a sexual defiancy out of administering that and I would never, ever let someone take a hand to my children. It sends the wrong message.
Not surprised
As a former teacher, I can tell you that 98% of kids will tell you that their parents or grandparents are their heroes. Yes, they get enthused about sports stars, movie people, TV people, etc., but kids are not fooled about the important things. As your daughter indicated in her essay, they are most impressed with how we adults treat other people. They especially notice how we treat the people who cannot do anything for us - other people's kids, the obnoxious parents at the sports events,the homeless, those among us who are impaired intellectually or physically, etc.


I am surprised
how much this question has made me reflect on the differences in parenting and some of the similarities, too. My parents never had a problem saying no, which was final, no matter how much our feelings might be hurt. I realize now they probably did not like to hurt our feelings, but things were totally opposite then; they had more morals than money!
Surprised.
I would really hate to think a lack of an organism would be a driving force towards divorce. I love my husband with all my heart and here 10 years later and never had one! I enjoy sex tremendously and have achieved 1 in the past but not with him. While making that blanket statement about a driving force towards divorce, you say the ex left instead of your husband leaving. Maybe he is not the most pleasing guy you think he is. Just my observation.
Not surprised at all
When she was alive and I'd see her here and there on TV that snake was always with her. I always believed he was drugging her big time. If he truly cared about her he would have given her the help she really needed - to get off the drugs. But since I believed he was supplying her I figured he had some monetary stake in it. So glad he was not given custody of her baby daughter.
Not surprised at all
When she was alive and I'd see her here and there on TV that snake was always with her. I always believed he was drugging her big time. If he truly cared about her he would have given her the help she really needed - to get off the drugs. But since I believed he was supplying her I figured he had some monetary stake in it. So glad he was not given custody of her baby daughter.

What I wonder is was he supplying Anna's son with the drugs as well?
Is anybody really surprised by this? sm
Obviously, the stress clinic came a little too late for this soldier.  Having been connected with the military for nearly 50 years, I believe they have never done enough mental health wise for their people.  Most soldiers in the military today STILL will not admit they might have stress issues and need help because this all goes in their military record that follows them from one assignment to the next and can prevent them from advancing in their careers.  So, what do most of them do when under so much stress they feel they are going to explode?  Beat their spouses or commit suicide.  My husband was in the Middle East as a contractor for a year.  The things he saw on a daily basis were unimaginable to those of us in the good old USA.  Mind you, he was there by choice and could have left at any time.  Besides dead bodies being loaded onto planes daily, he saw soldiers coming in from the field looking worn down and so depressed they had no emotions at all.  Factor in one problem from home or a letter or e-mail that does not arrive when it should and it is no wonder there is not more of this happening.  Shame on the military for not taking better care of their people!!!   
Love birds, too, but once you get hit on the head or in your eye with a plop of poop,
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I feel like I am in an Alfred Hitchcock movie, The Birds.
I am sitting here at home, at my desk, and a bunch of black birds are flying past my window.  When I got up to look out my window, and my front entire front lawn and side lawn are covered with black birds.  Glad I am not in a phone booth.  Very strange to have so many of them in one place.  Guess they are getting ready to go south for the winter, but today it feels like a muggy summer day, 70 degrees at 9 a.m. in northern NJ.
Won't the be surprised next month
This happened to an older friend of mine.  Poor thing couldn't get another policy to save her life, and it wasn't a cosmetic issue, it was like entire siding pieces that flew off of her house.  Oh, they and came fixed it, then they dropped her like a bad disease.  They'd better be careful.  Just a friendly warning...  I don't know if I'd let the homeowner's insurance in on that deal, I'd cut my losses and replace the carpet. 
You would really be surprised as maybe this is how your hubby is but
this man likes to watch Animal Channel along with me. We have been married for 7 years now and I can truthfully say he never drools, shy, quiet and reserved. More women could use a hubby like mine!
You would be surprised at what people--sm
do and do not wear at these types of functions these days. Personally, I would dress a little bit up, but I have seen people in shorts and khaki pants, as well, not to mention jeans, as well as gowns. Totally up to you. I would say nothing is taboo, as long as you are dressed. been there. Have fun!
You know, I wouldn't be surprised (sm)
if there are A LOT of effects from microwave cooking that we don't know about.  It's scary when you think about what you could be doing to yourself EVERYDAY.
I am surprised myself at how low my cholesterol is
and so was my physician. My hubs very much against eating red meat but he knows I love a steak which I eat less of now since we married. When physician remarked about how good level is, he told me tell hubby alright about that steak and just about anything. No worries here but thanks anyway.
You did right. Surprised so many parents ok with
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I am surprised you work if you don't have to - sm
but where would you be I wonder if your wonderful doormat of a husband lost his job. I am from the Philly area and it is pricey depending on where you are, and jobs are not stable now. So unless he has his own business that is doing quite well I would get off my high horse. You could end up like to poor rich folks who lost every penny to that con artist Madoff. My DH and I had $400K saved until the downturn, now it is about $300K. We only have a mortgage too but lots of monthly bills too which add up to about $3500 a month. We do not think we are better than anyone else. I guess you don't eat, or have phone bills, electric bills, college funds, life insurance, health insurance, etc. One of my husband's paychecks easily pays our mortgage too, and it will be paid off in less than 4 years, but you don't see me bragging to everyone how great my life and finances are. We have ups and downs like anyone else, and no I don't "have" to work but if I didn't we would not have more than $200 left over each month, and that is no way to live if you can help it. You'd better hope to *ell that your DH does not lose his job though, or your perfect little world will come crashing down.