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My child got in trouble at school.

Posted By: time-out on 2007-02-04
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I need some opinions from other moms.  My little 5-year old dd got in trouble at school and was put in time-out.  First, she was talking to her other friends during a movie that they were watching, then she was talking and playing during nap time.  She did not get to go skating or get ice cream like we usually do on Saturday nights.  We went to Lowes to get some things for the house and she found a book that she wanted, I told her no because she acted up in school.  That has been her punishment so far. I am thinking about having her go apologize to the teacher Monday for acting so ugly Friday or would that be too much?


 


She has been in daycare since 1 year of age and last September she went to Pre-K.  This is the first time anyone has mentioned having any problems with her.  The night before my 15 month old kept us up all night and I know with my 5 year old doesn’t get enough sleep she does act up and I feel that was the real problem, she was tired.




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What do you do when your child gets in trouble?

Spank/Swat   


Time Out   


Natural Consequences (ie, if they won't stop throwing food, then lunch is over, or if they run away while you're out, it's time to go home)   


Re-direction (ie, trying to get your child to focus on something else)   


Other (possibly a combination of methods or something else entirely)


What would you do? School trouble.

We moved here to Texas about 2 years ago and have never had any to deal with the kids and school behavioral issues before, but my 14-year-old daughter apparently just had her 5th tardy to a class (she's a talker and I can easily see how's she's distracted getting from locker to classroom) and was given a choice in school today of ISS (in-school-suspension) or take swats.


Swats?  I had no idea they still spanked kids at school.  Didn't that stop happening about 20 years ago?  I talked to one mom earlier and apparently in Texas it's still legal and she didn't think twice about it and said her own kids had been paddled in school and she thought it was just fine.


It's not that I'm trying to get my daughter out of her punishment, but apparently since I didn't sign a "paddling permission" slip, she has to choose the school suspension thing.  Though she brought the slip for me to sign tonight if I choose.   She apparently actually wants the swats because she says that's what all the other kids do and (quote) it doesn't hurt.  She says she doesn't want to miss class anyway and it's dumb to miss classes if she doesn't have to.


While I agree with her on the missing class part, I can't help but wonder what the point of a punishment of a paddling is IF it the kids say it doesn't hurt AND they choose it instead of in-school suspension.  It seems so barbaric.  Do they really think smacking the kids with a piece of wood is going to keep them in line?  I suppose it worked when we were kids but I thought our society was past that now.


So I'm just wondering what you all would do (need opinions).  As I said, I talked with one mom tonight that said just go ahead and let her be paddled, it's no biggy.  I asked my daughter if she thinks that will keep her from being so chit-chatty and not making it to class on time and she just shrugged her shoulders.  How can the kids be so calm about the whole thing? 


I hate parenting sometimes!  So do I sign the "no paddling" slip or not?  


Used to be in you got into trouble at school,
expect more of the same or worse when you got home. I do not consider abuse at all, good children then unlike the ones now.
Yep...I always made good grades...never got in trouble in school (sm)
Never get in trouble with my job...I know I don't have any type of learning disability. But I just can't stay focused. I keep wondering why I can't stay organized despite my efforts.

Thanks
If it was my child, I would be at that school in a hot New York minute.
Regardless of what is or is not wrong with the child, that comment from the teacher is totally uncalled for and extremely unprofessional. A teacher should know better, period, end of discussion. And I agree with tnmt, ask for a meeting with the principle and teacher.
Does anyone with a learning disabled child home school them? sm

If so, how did you go about figuring out how to teach them? 


Our daughter was in public school but we moved her to a private school at the first of the year because she was very behind in the public school and they refused to give her extra services.  Since moving her to the private school we have found out that she does have learning disabilities, which means that she would need to return to the public school since the private school doesn't have special education services available.  She has learned a lot while in the private school because of the small class size and a teacher that spends a lot of time with her and we know that she has learned much more than she would have if she had stayed in the public school.


Now the public school is wanting her to repeat the grade when she returns there in the fall.  Yes, the very same public school that refused to help us before and actually blew off my questioning if she had learning disabilities now only has a "repeat the grade" attitude.  The problem I have with that is that she has proven on testing done at Sylvan learning center that she is academically half way into her current grade, so if she repeats the grade she will be bored for half of the year because she knows that material.


Therefore we're considering home schooling but don't know how effective this might be with her learning disabilities.  Does anyone else do this?  How did you find out about the techniques you needed to teach your child so that they could learn?  We know that she has an average IQ so that's not a problem - it's just getting her brain to process the information correctly.


Thank you.


Upset with my child's school -- failed eye exam

First, the facts.  My child has retinitis pigmentosa.  His vision is 20/200 without glasses and his best corrected vision is 20/70.  I have taken him to the specialists at the University of Michigan and the prognosis is not promising.  He is only 8 years old and I don't feel he needs to know the true extent of what his future might hold.  He inherited this through me, as my parents were both blind, and this is a congenital defect. 


He came home from school yesterday and informed me they were all tested by the Health Department with an eye exam, which, of course, he failed miserably.  He informed the technician that he could not see the chart, so she told him "just guess."  Then he was asked if his glasses were old, that he might need new ones, and he informed me that she would be sending me a letter stating he needs an official eye exam and new glasses.   


So, before I blew my top, I went to the school office this morning.  I asked to see my child's emergency contact sheet, which includes a section regarding existing medical conditions.  There it was, plain as day, stating all of his ophthamologic conditions.  I feel this information should have been checked by their staff before they administered and unnecessary test on my child.  I informed the principal that I did not want him subjected to any more visual testing (which they plan to repeat in two years).  They didn't seem to understand why I would not want this free testing.  I asked them if they would perform a hearing test on a child with a hearing aid -- then they finally got my point.  I think permission slips before testing might be appropriate. 


Because my biological child is a high school science teacher who
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I still think it should be the parents who teach the child these things, not the school's place.
Each child goes to school to learn facts. They learn their social skills, values, etc.at home and from friends that their parents allow them to associate with. The school is a public entity full of many INDIVIDUALS who all have different values and opinions. Teachers should not be teaching children their own personal values and should leave that to the parents.
Make a fuss to school board, principal, teachers, dept. of child welfare (sm)
whoever you need to. I understand these are difficult to get rid of but obviously the mom of that little girl is not getting rid of them, maybe she treats the child but if you don't clean up the environment reinfestation is a sure thing.

We got a letter from the school yesterday stating there is a lice outbreak in the school. Then we had a program last night in which all the 3rd graders put on these little capes (that came out of a community bag where they had used them before at practice and then bagged them back up) They of course went over their heads and rested on their shoulders. I wasn't the only person that sucked in air when they saw this last night.

I am sure that poor child is and will be embarrassed about this and probably other things in the future if her health/hygiene issues are not being taken care of properly.


Call the school. I had a threat like this in my high school and they cancelled school that day.
Thankfully, because the person making the threats was found with material for home made pipe bombs and quit a bit of ammunition and a shotgun. He was arrested and charged. Never allowed back in the school.

I think it would be safer to call the school and get classes cancelled for a day to investigate versus make a scene in the parking lot, especially if the student with the knife is inside with the knife.

Good luck. If nothing happens, pull your child out of school for a week. See what happens. I know that sounds horrible, but small towns is where this happens most often.
Should say the child found in Florida proved to be the Caylee child, homicide.
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Sounds like my kids...on a school day "we just got home from school!" on a vacation day....sm
But this is our vacation! My husband takes vacation days and leaves town without us...lol! He would never dream of taking a day off to work around the house!
How is the school's fault if Johnny comes to school armed?
And how is the school's fault if off campus people are getting jumped? Everybody wants to blame the schools, but the reason places have gone "zero tolerance" is because every parent whose kid gets popped for an illegal weapon says, "Oh, my little pookie wouldn't do that." Which is exactly what the parents of every perpetrator of school violence has said. At 15, this girl should have been aware that it was verboten and, if they felt that strongly it was necessary, kept it hidden. If she is not capable of thinking that part through, maybe she shouldn't be trusted with pepper spray anyway.
How is this kid in school with chronic infestation? School nurse
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Have you ever had trouble with your
bones just aching and thought something else and come to find out you did not have enough calcium and once supplemented, the pain stopped? Has anyone been so deficient in calcium that this actually happened? Thanks.
Trouble is.

That I think they believe her that they cannot do anything without her.  I think she just loves to bully.  It gives her some sort of power or something.  I think that is why she kept insisting she look after my kids while I work.  Normally I am a submissive type that is a target for bullys but when it comes to my precious girls, I draw the line. I have become better and taking up for myself and especially my babies.   She had some ugly things to say about me too from what I understand when I told her no that the girls and I were happy with the child care they were receiving at the daycare.


I have been wondering, if I called the CPS if they would make the parents put the children in a regular daycare or something better then what they are getting.  She still feeds that 2 year-old and insists that the DIL still feed that 2 yo baby food because Aunt does not want and is not going to cook.  DH told me that when I left the room that she told the little boy that he was going to get a dose of Tylenol because she needed to get some sleep.  It is a shame that she treats him like he is a burden. 


The only way you could get in trouble with the IRS sm
Is if that person worked ONLY for you. A lot of people try to pass their full-time housekeepers off as IC because they don't want to bother with the taxes. Those are the people who get into trouble. That person is an employee, not an IC. But if they work for other people as well, they are an IC and responsible for their own taxes.
If you have that much trouble trying to....
communicate when you're trying to buy something off her, imagine how bad it will be if there are problems later and you are unhappy with the product. I would just go to some other place.
I'm not sure I want to know what trouble that may be LOL - NM
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potty trouble
Just like when a pacifier mysteriously disappears, you can hide the pullups and act like you ran out. She may suggest buying more, but conveniently, the store will be out of her size. She won't tolerate going in panties nearly as well as the pullups at her age. You may have more laundry, but if you stick to it, she'll come around. To avoid the pullups at night (so she doesn't catch on), use rubber sheets and avoid late drinking. Continue with the praise, rewards, and all the other methods simultaneously. If she's able to hold her poop that long, with the right foods, she'll be less able to put it off (of course, I don't mean give the poor thing diarrhea). It's just that children tend to be on the constipated side according to my pediatrician, so that might be partly why she can go so long. Make sure she eats plenty of veggies and put her on the potty at the same time daily, preferably in the morning after breakfast or warm milk, cocoa, etc.
Potty Trouble
Was reading the board tonight and just wanted to share my experience with you about my son (who is now 18).  He was also a very independent, smart, could do anything kid, but refused to potty train.  However, he really wanted to go to "school".  After explaining that they did not let kids into school who still went to the bathroom in their pants, he informed me that he would starting wearing his big boy pants and going to the big boy potty once he started school and by gosh that is what he did.  Stubborn as all get out!  Your daughter sounds a lot like him...used to hide to have his bm and could have cared less about wearing dirty diapers or pull-ups (I cannot remember, but I don't think they were available yet).  Anyway, I got a lot a grief from many friends and especially family about this.  He was my first child and it really stressed me out, but he took care of it on his own in good time.  I am not sure whether you can try something like this with your daughter such as a special place that she might like to go or the all time favorite...a bribe.  Whatever happens, it will work itself out in the long run. Just remember not to get too stressed about it and take it all in stride and do not worry about what other people say.  My son is now a terrific young adult who has been wearing his big boy pants for a long time and has suffered no severe mental setbacks that I can tell () from all the pleading and begging his father and I did.  Sorry so long, but I worried so much about this and frankly I could kick myself now since there were so many other huge issues that we would be facing later on.  She will get it....hang in there.
When I had trouble, it felt like a really...sm
sharp, hard pinch along my sternum.  I was given Motrin.  I did have a workup first before the doctor decided on costochondritis -  EKG, treadmill, echo.  I do have mitral valve prolapse.
Arm hair trouble

It seems like over the last several years the hair on my forearms has gotten darker and darker. I'm so self-conscious about it, I feel like it makes me nice and mannish looking :(


Here's my question: would it help to put hydrogen peroxide on my arm hair everyday? Bleaching is such a hassle for a large area like that, and I don't have the money now for laser removal. I think hydrogen peroxide lightens hair, but would it make a noticeable difference on my arms?


anyone have trouble with their neighbors...????
beginning to wonder if there could be anything worse to have to put up with.  I have been dealing badly with these people for almost 2 years now and am in the process of remodling to sell out and find a better spot to live.  my neighbor is going down hill quick.  what used to be the all american suburb, has turned into trash neighbors...sorry had to vent!!!!
Well, guess I am in trouble then because
my housekeeper who has been with me exclusively for the past say 15 years or so only works for me. No taking out of taxes, all under-the-table, how if she never does taxes, pray tell, will the IRS know???
I'm in a world of trouble, then
because all my grandparents with the exception of my maternal grandmother deceased before I was born. I am now in my 60s and have actually made it this far without knowing any of their history. What is a lady to do?
Daughter In Trouble

I wish you, your daughter, and your family well. I mean that sincerely. You need advice from an attorney -- not from a lot of us speculating on a web site. I worked in child abuse for many years before MT work. It is doubtful (my opinion only) that you will be successful in bringing charges against this young man because of the age of consent of your daughter. She was not raped; she had sexual relations with him willingly. IF you are successful - please be prepared for the price you are going to make your daughter pay. She will have to testify at his trial and the defense attorney will make her look like the worst XXX in the world. It will be horrible for her - at best. Please think long and hard about what you are about to do to your daughter.  


I would keep the lines of communication open and drop it. You will be so sad if you put your daughter through this only to find that -at most- the boyfriend will receive probation. Remember my words, "Being a winner does NOT mean you win." Sometimes the cost is very, very high Mom.


Been There As A Prosecution Witness 1,000,000 Times  and now an MT because of it.


Lilly


Trouble concentrating
Just wondering if anyone else suffers from SAD and has trouble concentrating this time of year.  I am losing my motivation to do anything (besides eat).  Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated.  The shorter days are really starting to affect my drive.  I'm usually very energetic and upbeat.  Just have the blahs.
Second at 36. I didn't have much trouble sm
keeping up with them. They make you young again, take you back to playful times. I agree, have always looked 10 years young than my age.

Most of my friends had kids much earlier, had no education, no idea which way was up. Somehow, they all turn out ok. Something to be said for your mothers, and older mothers, too.

In my expeirence, the older mother know much more about the ins and outs of applying for financial aid and college than do the younger mothers. Been there, done, that, and all of that. Worked for mine. Graduated NYU in 2005 and is well onto her way to great career..
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I have been taking some medication for incontinence, basically has not worked, gotten severe and unable to control. My question to you is if you have had and what steps have been taken to control it. Thanks.
Well, now I know why Lindsay is always in trouble. sm

From the words of Dina Lohan herself: "It was very tastefully done," Dina tells PEOPLE of the photos, a recreation of Marilyn Monroe's legendary 1962 photo shoot shot by Bert Stern. "I respect the photographer as an artist, so I look at them artistically. For him to call Lindsay 46 years later and to say can you recreate these photos is an honor. I looked at it as art, and as Lindsay doing a character. So I don't look at them like it's Playboy; she was being a character. So if you look at it that way, you can look at it as a mother."

And Dina adds that had the photos been inappropriate, Lindsay's sister Ali would not have visited the set. "Trust me," Dina tells PEOPLE, "I wouldn't have sent my 14-year-old to the set [if the shoot was in bad taste]. And obviously Lindsay wouldn't do anything with her sister there, that was risqué."


What a joke! I don't care what icon - I would never encourage or be okay with my daughters ever doing that!!


 


This country is definitely in trouble....

IMHO, many people have blinders on. Still buy like crazy, charge everything, drive brand new cars with big monthly payments, have all the toys, new everything and then only pay minimums on their CC payments or miss a house payment or two and think everyone lives that way. People need to learn how to save money, plain and simple. DH and I both work, make just over six figures, have only the house payment, cars paid for (not new ones but don't care to impress anyone with our cars), no CC debt, gas prices aren't hurting us too much and we can still take nice vacations 2-3 times a year. Most people these days live like there is no tomorrow, don't bother to save for retirement, try to keep up with the Jones' and are miserable. We make a nice living, live well within our means and are content. Do we want new things...sure, but we pay cash for what we want. Nothing irks me more than when someone charged to the hilt on credit cards complains that the debt collectors are calling them because they are behind in payments. Most people whould be able to ride out a recession if they had some money in the bank.  


no..asking for trouble, especially if she is the only girl!

And please, no one comment on how THEIR daughter is so good and would never do anything wrong, how you have to trust kids and give them their space, or state that this is a different time than when we were young. 90% of 16 year olds are ridiculously immature. Oh, and even good girls get pregnant, drink and take drugs, even if they are on the honor roll, have a part time job and help around the house. Be a good mother and say no...you don't have to justify your decision..you are the mother.


I had trouble believing - sm
My daughter was four when we moved into our house and within months she was insisting she was seeing lights, orbs, etc. I admit I heard footsteps but told myself I was hearing things. Anyway she eventually, about 3-4 years later,had actually seen and knew the names of two - spirits? ghosts? I was still skeptical - overactive imagination, etc, until she and I saw something in our living room at the same time that I could not explain any other way about two years ago. She's 16 now. Yeah, I would believe.

PS - my philosophy about most kid behaviors like wanting to sleep with parents has always been - somewhere between now and college she'll stop . . sucking her thumb, crawling in bed with me, get potty trained, etc, etc, etc. It puts things in perspective. And here we are on the brink of college and the only thing left is she's asking me to tuck her in at night. I'll do that till the night she gets a husband to take that delightful task over for me!
Trouble with daughter

Sounds like the girl is crying for help, but mom is shacked up with her boyfriend and doesn't want her daughter to mess up her meal ticket. How sad.


 


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i had another spell this morning.  the doctors don't seem to know what to do to help.  ANybody else have this problem?
Anyone every let someone use their address for ? and gotten into trouble?
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rosie might be in trouble if he sues her.
but i agree with her...why is he involved in MISS USA anyway? does he own it??? cuz, he like she said does not have a good track record for role models.
Can it really cause trouble from inside a purse?
I'd rather be barked at then sprayed with cologne, but then I reeeeally like dogs. In some countries they are allowed to come inside restaurants. Fun.
We have the same trouble with ants in the summer.
around the areas you think they are coming in.  The only thing is if you have a small child, this may pose a risk of them getting into if you place it low enough.  You could also try sprinkling it outside around your home. 
I am sooo glad to see this...sorry you had trouble but...sm

I took it for 1.5 days and started getting odd, painful muscle spasms in the back of one thigh.  I looked it up and saw that was not only a side effect but apparently a serious side effect, so called the doc to get something else.  He had never heard of that reaction!!  I still refused to take it and got something else.  Then had to go to a specialist for different problem.  I asked him about that side effect with Cipro, and he had never heard of it.  I know they think I'm nuts, but I know that's what it was.  The spasm frequency slowed one day after stopping Cipro, but it didn't quit entirely for several days.  I won't ever take it again.


I've tried a lot of paper and it still has trouble.
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Trouble staying awake - what do you do?? (nm)
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You can get in trouble for spanking with an object...
I'm not against spanking when appropriate, but I used to work as a legal secretary and saw people get child abuse charges for spanking with belts.  I think if you use a bare hand it is legal, but the law probably varies from state to state.  Just wanted to warn you!
Trouble with your bowels or sex life???
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i'd try going to an internist/trouble shooters.
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Then to stay there is only inviting trouble
I would live in a 1 room apt before I would put up with this circus. How much is peace of mind worth? She is enabling him to drive her crazy by living on his property. Nothing worth that much.
ahem...Kelly Ripa ALSO has trouble...nm
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My Misha had terrible foot trouble.
Not sure why she had infections going in her front feet, but she did. Finally had to have surgery on one of them. If you take the dog to the vet, the vet can put a better wrap on than you can. He can put a stiff sole in there and then wrap it with that semi-sticky splint wrap stuff. The soaking was good. We used epson salts or just soapy water. Definitely don't cut anything off. If it looks like part has turned whitish like it has no blood supply, then even that can be left in place as a temporary cover on the wound, the way you leave the cover on a blister, even if it breaks open. Eventually it will dry up and peel.

But I would probably have taken the dog in to the vet on Monday. In fact I did once for a cut pad; didn't know how old it was, but the vet was not worried about that one because it was only a couple of mm deep. There was no flap.

If you don't think a vet trip is necessary, they do sell booties with Velcro straps at pet stores. If you get the right size it might help you protect your bandage and keep it on longer. We did that with Misha. Maybe if you put extra stiffener in there and even glued in some bubble wrap or other cushion, maybe you could walk the dog sooner. You could use cushioning from people shoe inserts, maybe glue it to cardboard and tuck it inside the doggy booty. Course it would have to be a little bigger than the foot to accommodate all that.

Good luck.