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I still think it should be the parents who teach the child these things, not the school's place.

Posted By: MeMT on 2008-10-16
In Reply to: In a city with a large gay/lesbian population, gay -sm - SF

Each child goes to school to learn facts. They learn their social skills, values, etc.at home and from friends that their parents allow them to associate with. The school is a public entity full of many INDIVIDUALS who all have different values and opinions. Teachers should not be teaching children their own personal values and should leave that to the parents.


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Not educational. This is something that should be the parents job to teach, not the school. sm
Besides, why should school children have a field trip to ANY wedding? What would people say if someone had a field trip to a church service? These are things that parents need to be able to teach their children when the time is right.
Their parents don't teach them
and also, they don't get those classes at school. I guess also I was fortunate in that my mother was a tailor and dressmaker and I used to help her with finishing clothes; buttons, etc.

It is such a disposable society today also. If it is broken, don't fix it but toss it out and buy something new. With the economy the way it is, possibly that might change.
Good grief. Do parents not teach their
kids ANYTHING anymore?
400 lines per hour? You need to teach me a few things! LOL nm
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I am 31 and they didn't teach home ec in school...
We had college prep courses...Believe me, I wish I could sew as well...doesn't mean I can't learn now but no, I was never taught in school...
NO WAY. It is not your place to tell them, let their parents tell them when they
think the time is right!!!!!
It is NOT the teachers place to tell a child that Santa doesn't
yeah I just might sue as well!
Our school has an excellent system in place - sm
Every year we fill out a million forms that have to be turned in on the first and second days of schools or they get grades knocked down----they then call and email you when they have anything going on. When they first implimented it last year I got 5 phone calls (have 2 kids in school). They worked out the bugs and now I get one call and one email. It is all automated and works quite well. I also work PT for the school so they they know my face and name so that helps too. The school policy is not to let any elementary or primary school child off the bus unless a parent is there. If the driver does not see anyone the kid goes back to the school. Parents get upset with it too, if they are too lazy to come out to the bus stop, then they have to get in their car and drive to the school (not a short jaunt) and pick up their kid. Very safety conscious here. (or lawsuit fearful!)
Parents are a child's first heroes
And hopefully they will always be their best heroes.  There will always be outside influences, but in my experience, it's my mother's or father's voice in my head that most influences my behavior, whether good or not-so-good.....
Would definitely at least call the child's parents...sm

It may very well be that it is just a little kid is mad and one of those things that are very normal for kids this age to do.  You know, my dad's gonna beat up your dad kind of thing.  However, the parents need to know that their daughter is threatening violence towards your daughter and using dad as her back up.  He may not even own a gun, who knows?  I would just politely explain the situation to them and let them know you wanted to work with them so it wouldn't get blown out of proportion at school.  If she is just acting in the typical manner, the school still won't see it that way because of so many shootings, and this may cause even more trouble for your family and Maya's.  Don't know if you have this in your area, but our schools have the safe schools act, and it is a zero tolerance policy.  Statements like that here have gotten kids expelled from school, and they were not allowed back into the public system until an extensive interview with the school administration and psychiatrist and a lot of paper work.  Then the discipline is all on their record, even infractions that ended up as no threat.   


"The parents", the "older man". The welfare of child
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Parents with child who threw teddy bear over the overpass (sm)
I would not! No would I have gone after that teddy bear. I would have told my child, "Oh, well, you threw it, you lost it."  That boy is 10 years old!  My rule is to never give in to anything demanded through a temper tantrum.
Unfortunately, the schools stick their nose in many things that should be the parents job (sm)
my children have had teachers give one-sided views of politics, whether they should be democrats or republicants, who their parents should be voting for, etc.  For some reason, some teachers don't know where fact ends and their opinion begins.  We don't pay them to teach their opinion.
If they watch TV and go on line and go to school, parents can't do squat these days.
Sad but true.
Poll for parents with school aged kids at home...sm

1.  What ages are your kids?


2.  Do they have their own cell phone?


3.  Do they have their own TV and or computer in their room?  If so, are there set hours they're allowed to use these:


4. Do they receive an allowance?  If so, are they required to do chores to receive this?


As for our house, here's the answers.  Kids are 15 and 8.  15-year-old has a cell phone and pays her bill.  15-year-old has a TV.  The kids share 1 PC that is where we can see what they're doing on it, and they're limited to no more than an hour a day on it if it's a school day.  We do have parental controls in place.  They don't receive an allowance but they are aware of a special chores list that they can choose to do extra things around the house to make money.  They are required to keep their rooms and bathrooms cleaned, as well as alternate cleaning up the kitchen after dinner.


My child got in trouble at school.

I need some opinions from other moms.  My little 5-year old dd got in trouble at school and was put in time-out.  First, she was talking to her other friends during a movie that they were watching, then she was talking and playing during nap time.  She did not get to go skating or get ice cream like we usually do on Saturday nights.  We went to Lowes to get some things for the house and she found a book that she wanted, I told her no because she acted up in school.  That has been her punishment so far. I am thinking about having her go apologize to the teacher Monday for acting so ugly Friday or would that be too much?


 


She has been in daycare since 1 year of age and last September she went to Pre-K.  This is the first time anyone has mentioned having any problems with her.  The night before my 15 month old kept us up all night and I know with my 5 year old doesn’t get enough sleep she does act up and I feel that was the real problem, she was tired.


If it was my child, I would be at that school in a hot New York minute.
Regardless of what is or is not wrong with the child, that comment from the teacher is totally uncalled for and extremely unprofessional. A teacher should know better, period, end of discussion. And I agree with tnmt, ask for a meeting with the principle and teacher.
Does anyone with a learning disabled child home school them? sm

If so, how did you go about figuring out how to teach them? 


Our daughter was in public school but we moved her to a private school at the first of the year because she was very behind in the public school and they refused to give her extra services.  Since moving her to the private school we have found out that she does have learning disabilities, which means that she would need to return to the public school since the private school doesn't have special education services available.  She has learned a lot while in the private school because of the small class size and a teacher that spends a lot of time with her and we know that she has learned much more than she would have if she had stayed in the public school.


Now the public school is wanting her to repeat the grade when she returns there in the fall.  Yes, the very same public school that refused to help us before and actually blew off my questioning if she had learning disabilities now only has a "repeat the grade" attitude.  The problem I have with that is that she has proven on testing done at Sylvan learning center that she is academically half way into her current grade, so if she repeats the grade she will be bored for half of the year because she knows that material.


Therefore we're considering home schooling but don't know how effective this might be with her learning disabilities.  Does anyone else do this?  How did you find out about the techniques you needed to teach your child so that they could learn?  We know that she has an average IQ so that's not a problem - it's just getting her brain to process the information correctly.


Thank you.


Upset with my child's school -- failed eye exam

First, the facts.  My child has retinitis pigmentosa.  His vision is 20/200 without glasses and his best corrected vision is 20/70.  I have taken him to the specialists at the University of Michigan and the prognosis is not promising.  He is only 8 years old and I don't feel he needs to know the true extent of what his future might hold.  He inherited this through me, as my parents were both blind, and this is a congenital defect. 


He came home from school yesterday and informed me they were all tested by the Health Department with an eye exam, which, of course, he failed miserably.  He informed the technician that he could not see the chart, so she told him "just guess."  Then he was asked if his glasses were old, that he might need new ones, and he informed me that she would be sending me a letter stating he needs an official eye exam and new glasses.   


So, before I blew my top, I went to the school office this morning.  I asked to see my child's emergency contact sheet, which includes a section regarding existing medical conditions.  There it was, plain as day, stating all of his ophthamologic conditions.  I feel this information should have been checked by their staff before they administered and unnecessary test on my child.  I informed the principal that I did not want him subjected to any more visual testing (which they plan to repeat in two years).  They didn't seem to understand why I would not want this free testing.  I asked them if they would perform a hearing test on a child with a hearing aid -- then they finally got my point.  I think permission slips before testing might be appropriate. 


Kids and money for school things...sm

Here is it is.... January 30th and since January 1st I've been asked by my 16-year-old for:


$90 for a graphing calculator for the calculus class


$85 for school yearbook  (and price goes up 2/1 by $15..she didn't tell me any of this until now)


$30 for hoodie for yearbook club


$15  for drama t-shirt for spring production... which she has exactly 2 lines in and will not be on the stage any other time.


Total:  $220.


I bought the calculator as it was necessary and I know she'll use it again in college.  I've offered to pay half of the yearbook if she'll raise the other half.  For the shirts I've told her to raise the money herself.  The drama team is also looking to possibly go to New York for a few days to take in shows in May and gosh only knows what that would cost... if it gets approved.


She doesn't work and says if she gets a part-time job then she can't do the drama production as they practice 3 days a week until 8 p.m. .... well hello she has only 2 lines in it and isn't even in any other scenes.


I told her to get a job or start offering to babysit for money.  I'm tired of being nickel-and-dimed to death for fru-fru non-essential expenses.... especially since we just spent $700 on car repairs and $250 for surgery on the dog (abscess on foot - she stepped on something at some point and messed herself up) and medical bills are coming in from my husband's numerous medical tests he had in November.    I'm not going to pay for her to go to New York either when that would probably take out entire family vacation money for the summer. Once those numbers come in we'll offer to pay a portion of the cost but that's it.


She also insists she wants to go to college out of state, and her dad and I have also told her she has to figure out how to pay for that because we're not going in debt for that when she can get a free education from the lottery in our state by going to a state school.  She doesn't do any volunteer work, play sports or have any special talents that would qualify her for scholarships. 


I told her that it's time to grow up and realize there is no money tree in our back yard, and I'm not going to bust my butt working extra jobs to buy these things for her. 


Because my biological child is a high school science teacher who
NM
Make a fuss to school board, principal, teachers, dept. of child welfare (sm)
whoever you need to. I understand these are difficult to get rid of but obviously the mom of that little girl is not getting rid of them, maybe she treats the child but if you don't clean up the environment reinfestation is a sure thing.

We got a letter from the school yesterday stating there is a lice outbreak in the school. Then we had a program last night in which all the 3rd graders put on these little capes (that came out of a community bag where they had used them before at practice and then bagged them back up) They of course went over their heads and rested on their shoulders. I wasn't the only person that sucked in air when they saw this last night.

I am sure that poor child is and will be embarrassed about this and probably other things in the future if her health/hygiene issues are not being taken care of properly.


Call the school. I had a threat like this in my high school and they cancelled school that day.
Thankfully, because the person making the threats was found with material for home made pipe bombs and quit a bit of ammunition and a shotgun. He was arrested and charged. Never allowed back in the school.

I think it would be safer to call the school and get classes cancelled for a day to investigate versus make a scene in the parking lot, especially if the student with the knife is inside with the knife.

Good luck. If nothing happens, pull your child out of school for a week. See what happens. I know that sounds horrible, but small towns is where this happens most often.
Should say the child found in Florida proved to be the Caylee child, homicide.
NM
I've heard good things and about things about taking prednisone. My mom was on it for SM
for awhile and it made her look so swollen.  I sympathize with you.
Art - BFA -- I don't want to teach and it - sm
openings for art teachers are few as it is, also it is hard to support yourself as an artist unless you are really, really good, or really, really lucky.
what does he teach?
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webistes regarding what they teach..SM

http://www.international.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=3367


http://www.usinkorea.org/issues/users/index.htm


http://international.ucla.edu/asia/article.asp?parentid=3367


http://freekorea.us/2005/11/07/the-excesses-of-an-extremist-south-korean-teachers-union-force-the-government-into-action-3/


 


Not so much our moms as we just try to teach
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Well, that'll really teach her...
A lesson won't it now?  I mean being confined to a mansion with servants, cooks, etc., and nothing to do all day but swim, tan, whatever else she does...wow, talk about injustice...amazing
For me, it comes from not having anyone to teach you your worth when you are a kid (sm)
My husband was not nice even when we are dating. I had not been taught that I deserved to be treated with respect. Now you may say I am teaching my daughter the same thing - however, I'm not. I make sure that if she or my son see my husband treat me disrespectfully that I respond, in a respectful way to him that that is an inappropriate way for him to talk to me. I am still however, stuck with making a decision over what is better for the children. Sometimes these men who are bad husbands are not such bad fathers. It's a hard decision - not as easy as typing "just leave" on a message board.
Most people teach
their children Santa is an actual entity, not the spirit of Christmas.

My mom told me there was a St. Nicholas who gave to others and that "Santa" was just a way to replicate the wonderful intention of St. Nicholas.

Most people, including myself, lead their children to believe he is a real being, and it can be very disheartening when they find out it is not true.

Any thoughts on that specifically ... anyone?
well I figure if I don't teach them sm
they won't get it when they have to get out in the real world. If they are not going to school and want to live with you why should you pay all their bills?

BTW, what I did was put half of what they gave me away and when they left home I had a nice little nest egg to give back to them to get them started. But they didn't know I was doing that until the time came for them to move out.

In this economy it is very expensive to pay for everyones groceries, laundry soap, etc. I think its a disservice not to require something. Maybe not half or even a quarter, but something! I don't want anyone to wind up like my niece at 45 with no responsibility at all and living off her widowed mother and her fixed income while making 30 bucks an hour herself plus overtime and spending it as fast as she can. Oh yes this is also in the state with the worst economy in the nation..Michigan! But then I guess she thinks she is entitled.
Sounds like my kids...on a school day "we just got home from school!" on a vacation day....sm
But this is our vacation! My husband takes vacation days and leaves town without us...lol! He would never dream of taking a day off to work around the house!
where I am they teach this class in 5th grade + up...
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I think it is great to teach your kids
My daughter attended a school for special needs children as a mentor when she was 3 and 4-years-old.  She loved it.  The special needs children really responded to my daughter and she made great friends.  What joy you and your daughter brought to this man's evening last night!  After all, we all just want to be accepted no matter our religion, creed, etc.  Thank you for sharing that nice story, and it sounds like your daughter has a caring/sharing heart!!!  Bravo to her and you for raising up such a nice person, which is much, much needed in today's society!   
They teach them to say that when their real little rednecks :-) (nm)
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Her mother isn't too lazy to teach her better sm
Her mother is riding her coattails and loving the party life. Her mother is too messed up herself to teach her anything.
Trose, I don't believe in heaven, but I would teach SM
heaven to small children, until they are older and can grasp death in the reality of truth. Hmm,did that make any sense? It's late.
I teach English as a volunteer.
While there are immigrants here who do not choose to actively pursue learning the language via formal means, there are many who do. We have a waiting list of up to 12-14 months due to class space restrictions and a lack of volunteers. English is not an easy language to learn, and it takes time.
And if you open it up for her to teach them her way, then you are opening it up to all (sm)
That means people who are homophobic or racist can also teach children their point of view? There has to be a line drawn somewhere.
I think you're terrible. Is this what you teach your children?
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Teach him the phrase, "Neither a borrower nor a
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Then why did you just say it would teach tolerance? Apparently there was a goal. sm
I will teach my children love and tolerance myself. I carried them in my body and ate healthy foods, gave birth, and have taken care of them since the day they were born. I make the decisions for them. Thank God for now Americans are still free and we get to make those choices for our own children. And I would bet you don't have any.
Send the police to his house, this will teach him
a lesson, it is harassment.
How is the school's fault if Johnny comes to school armed?
And how is the school's fault if off campus people are getting jumped? Everybody wants to blame the schools, but the reason places have gone "zero tolerance" is because every parent whose kid gets popped for an illegal weapon says, "Oh, my little pookie wouldn't do that." Which is exactly what the parents of every perpetrator of school violence has said. At 15, this girl should have been aware that it was verboten and, if they felt that strongly it was necessary, kept it hidden. If she is not capable of thinking that part through, maybe she shouldn't be trusted with pepper spray anyway.
How is this kid in school with chronic infestation? School nurse
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So the 'right way' to parent is to teach your kids to hate.
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you all should also teach your girls about their cycle and how ovulation coincides with timing for p
i truly believe if young girls know how to chart their cycles and that there was only that 3-4 day period a month that they could get pregnant, teenage pregnancy would drop. ovulation falls basically in the middle of the no period cycle, which is the time most girls would be more likely to have sex to start with thus why you hear of so many girls getting pregnant having sex only one time. face it, they are gonna do it so help teach them as a mother to chart their cycles, protect themselves, and avoid those few days.
If wanting to teach my son our own family values makes me a bigot..then so be it. sm
I will gladly wear that label. Flame away if you want.

I will NEVER let some school teacher try to foist her own opinions on my child. And to do this on school time??

The bible flat out says that man should not lie with man or woman with woman. If that school district is an example of what passes for family values in SF, no wonder Michael Savage calls it San Fran Sicko. I have to agree with him. Pretty dress or no pretty dress.
it's not illegal, but it's inappropriate & he shouldn't be allowed to teach anymore
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