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My friend's cocker spaniel had seizures too. SM

Posted By: Meow Mixed on 2006-12-31
In Reply to: Seizures in dogs. Anyone have experience with sm - mlstoo

The vet claimed it was due to emotional issues, seperation from her, if she traveled, etc. He lived to be 15, though. Is it unique to spaniels?

My daughter's cat also had seizures. It is very traumatic to watch it. She would call me up crying because the cat was seizing. The vet said rare in cats, but he put the cat on phenobarb, which daughter got from regular drug store. Very funny seeing prescription from Walgreens with Sgt. Pepper on it.

I reallly assume it is more traumatic to watch, than actually a danger to pet, because daughter's cat is 17.



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We had a cocker spaniel with colitis...sm
We had him 15 years...he had colitis when he was younger and anything stressful made it worse for him or food change....but, as he got older, it seemed to clear up. But, when we moved here we also put him on steroid shots for his horrible skin allergies, and then the colitis stopped. When we lived in Florida, the vets wouldn't give them steroids for horrible skin problems but they will here, so the steroids may have been what cleared him up, because it just stopped after the first shot.
My cocker spaniel rides in the back seat and gets in front when we stop (sm)
In her mind this usually relates to getting a small dish of ice cream from the Dairy B or a chance to get out and go visit friends, i.e. her "grandma" and her groomer.

I have always made her ride in the back because I am afraid she will start moving around and get near the foot pedals and cause a wreck.

Certainly will not let her ride in the front when the vehicle is moving after this.
My dog had seizures too,
He had them from around 10 weeks old and for the rest of his life, but not very often because my vet put him on phenobarbitol tabs. I had to give them to him twice a day, but it was worth it. He died two years or so later, but I think he ate something that killed him, it wasn't a seizure. My vet only observed him for 24 hours before putting him on the meds, he did bloodwork to make sure that was what was happening. Good luck, give your doggy a hug for me!!
Anybody with a dog with seizures?
Do they run tests to determine if it's indeed seizures or what? Katie, our springer, has been having what appears to be mild seizures. They only last a couple of seconds and she's not out of it when it happens. She's due for her shots so I'm gonna ask about it but thought someone here might have some experience.
Seizures have many causes

A dog I adopted from a local shelter, who had been a stray and was skeletally thin (14 pounds), had seizures which the vet said was probably due to malnutrition. In the beginning, the only thing he could keep down was baby food (ground meat). After a couple of weeks, I started mixing the baby food with regular dog food and soon he was able to handle a regular dog food diet. When he finally got to his normal weight, he was almost 40 pounds!


His seizures took the form of shaking, like some dogs do when they are frightened. Phenobarbital helped to keep them to a minimum, but he still had them. All we could do was hold him and talk soothingly to him until the seizure was over.


He was the sweetest dog....I miss him so much.


My in-laws have a dog who has seizures...
This dog seems to being having grand mal seizures because it urinates on itself and they last a least a minute. The dog has had this several times but they haven't taken him to the vet because of the cost involved. My mother-in-law gives him an aspirin and puts "cold packs" on him when he is seizing. I'm not sure why but she is a little strange. I would take the dog to a vet. They can probably do test to see if she is indeed having seizures. Good luck!
Seizures in dogs. sm
It really varies.  My chihuahua sustained a brain injury at the age of 4 (baseball); and she started having seizures.  They were terrible.  They only lasted about 5 minutes but felt like hours.  I finally got a vet to put her on phenobarbital and she never had another seizure the rest of her life.  The vet said some dogs respond, others do not.  As mentioned, she had brain injury and vet was skeptical, but it worked for us.  Good luck.
Seizures in dogs. Anyone have experience with sm
this?  My poor little Cocker-he's 1-1/2 has been having seizures for about the last 6 months. The first time was last summer, around June. He stiffened up, weak on one side, fell down, neck spasmed literally all the way to the side for probably less than a minute and then he was fine. We didn't see anymore for about 3 months and boom, another just like the first. Then he had a couple of staring spells. I called the vet and he said to just observe and see if it happened again. Well, all was well for another 2 months and then he had the shivering episodes, 2 in 3 weeks that I observed. He would fall down and shiver real bad, not know anyone, unable to walk and this lasted for about 1-2 minutes. Then he was fine. I called the vet again and he said to "observe" for now. Today, he had another just like the first only it lasted for close to 3-5 minutes and it took him about another 15 minutes before he totally came out of it and was able to walk. In all of these seizures, his pupils were just huge-as big as the iris itself. I'm going to call the vet back on Tuesday again. What I want to know is, I wonder if it would be wise if I firmly asked the vet to please put this poor dog on antiseizure medication even if he wants to just "observe" again? Do they grow out of this or does it get worse?  He told me that he prefers to wait before using medication as they sometimes outgrow it, but I don't think it is going to happen. He doesn't bite and is not incontinent during these episodes. He doesn't bite his tongue either. They aren't the classic grand mal seizures.  I had a dog when I was young who had the classic grand mal and these aren't like that. My concern, and this is what I told him, is how many seizures is the poor little guy having that we haven't seen? I mean, I'm with him all day, but he sleeps by himself at night (on the couch-he's so neglected) and then there is his playtime in the fenced in yard. Any suggestions?  I'll check back later or you can email me.  Thanks!
My poor old doggy had seizures

and died from one.  He went to the vet that day and she put him on medication.  I called her and told her he was having more seizures and she said to double his medication.  That night, he had a seizure and did  not come out of it and died staring at me.  I felt so helpless that I could not do anything to help him.  I loved him so much.


 


Now I have another doed that is only 2-1/2 and he is having seizures about 1 every 3 months.  He gets very scared and I have to comfort him.  He wines and gets under my feet, can't stand up, drools, shivers and goes stiff. 


Update on my poochie with seizures sm
He had another last night right before I went to bed. Of course I couldn't sleep all night worrying about him. I called the vet promptly at 8 a.m. this morning and we are starting him on phenobarb 1/2 grain twice a day for starters. I sure hope this brings it under control. I felt so bad for the poor little guy.  Otherwise today, he is great.  Thanks for all the support. 
Seizures, aspirin and dog demise

Okay, here's my offering of a summary.  In answer to the initial question, yes dogs can have seizures.  I had a dog that had them for several years. Extremely scary, but they basically didn't harm him. He shook and was stiff for about a minute, then was fine afterwards.  The vet didn't see a need to do testing, and I agreed, as he was already 9 or 10 years old at the time, and he lived another 5 years after that.  (The dog, not the vet, ha!) Of course other owners and other vets might decide to do testing and such.  As for the aspirin debate, I will now agree with the person who says aspirin can kill a dog.  A dog given small doses of aspirin every day of its life will indeed die - most likely in anywhere between 13 and 17 years!  Let's lighten up, everybody! 


Poor thing, with seizures and all.
Some cats don't care about mice.  I have two.  LIke I said in the other posting, one loves to catch mice.  The other one?  Well, I've seen a mouse literally run right past his nose and he just didn't care. 
My husky Cara had seizures, she was never on medication though - sm
She only had them about every 18 months or so, granted I don't know if she had others when I was at work during the day, at night she slept in our bed with us. I believe the seizures contributed to the shortening her life though. She died days after her 8th birthday (cancer) in 2003. She never bit her tongue either, and the seizure was a few minutes and then after 15 or so minutes she started to get back to normal, but she would usually sleep for a long time after having a seizure. Since your dog's seizures seem to be getting worse I would opt for the medication. If you vet gives you a hard time then you might want to think about going to a different vet. Good luck.
Seizures are fairly common in Springers.
But what is the age of onset? Usually if age of onset is after 5 years, it is something other than epilepsy. But in a very young dog, it probably is epilepsy. A friend of mine has a Australian shepherd (named Major) that was having multiple grand mal seizures a day. Medicine helped, but what made a big difference for her was changing the dog's food to Canidae. Of course it's not in place of medication, but the dog went from multiple seizures a day before medication to 1 seizure a week with medication (may have had to add a second med, not sure), but then changing to Canidae improved him to 1 seizure in 6 months! She also has a Pembroke corgi (named Minor) who alerts them to each seizure before it hits their Australian shepherd.

She named her dogs Major and Minor - what a nut. :oD


Dog owners - recognizing partial seizures
After losing Misha to a brain tumor, I decided to post this to help others with dogs (sorry cat lovers - I did not research cats). Seizures beginning when a dog is young are almost always due to epilepsy, and it is very treatable. Unfortunately, seizures that begin when a dog is 5 or older is almost always either a brain tumor or some sort of serious infection in the brain. Either way, recognizing it early will help you have the confidence to insist on early treatment for the comfort and health of your pet.

Everybody knows the signs of a tonic-clonic seizure, but subtler seizures can confuse even vets. Know the signs of even focal/partial seizures:

http://www.canine-epilepsy-guardian-angels.com/CanineEpil.htm

a friend's b/friend died last year, drank, took vicodin...

he's not a loser because he has seizures, he's a loser because
we have to pay an exterminator to keep away the mice. He doesn't like to be petted. He pees and poops on things when he has seizures. I'm not saying he is a loser because he has seizures but because he pees and poops on things and the other things I mentioned. If he was your cat, I'm sure you would just kick him to the curb.
No, he is not..I have a friend...
coming to feed the cats (live in the country, have 8 outside cats!) and 3 inside cats. I feel bad making her come and mix food for him...we live 25 miles from town. A vet told me that he will either eat or just drink water and would be okay...but I will worry about him! I have been cooking extra chicken, turkey, etc. for him..my husband says he is spoiled! 
I had a friend who had those and
apparently they just observe them.  Maybe you should get a second opinion if you are having pain.  Hope you feel better.  
too bad- my best friend
has 'the gift.' That is about the only way I know to put it. She cleans my house for me and she can do in an hour and a half what it would take me all day if not two days to do. And it just looks so clean and bright and shiny when she is done!! LOL I mean, there is clean and then there is CLEAN!! And when she folds my laundry I don't even need to iron it later! We have the best deal worked out- she has one of my vehicles on a sort of 'permanent loan' and I pay the insurance on it and I also try to pay her a little extra here and there, and she comes over and helps me keep my house clean and helps me stay on top of my bills. I have a pretty bad case of ADD.

If you were in this area I would maybe lend her to you for a while, LOL. I know she would like to find just one or two 'regulars' that she could clean for to make a little extra money on the side.
Friend

If she is really a good friend, stick with her. REAL friends love you warts and all. If her behavior is causing you true anguish and she is an acquaintance... go your separate ways. Money comes and goes -- true friends don't.


Lilly


My friend's SON. not MOM!
Sorry for the typo. I am a BAT brain today!
Friend? Some friend! sm
Yes you should be mad, but only at yourself. Giving $$ once I can see. Maybe twice. You have been used by this 'friend'. Doesn't matter how nice you think she is, you have found out otherwise. You are out $$ which you generously gave in thinking it was being used to help her out, yet she has taken advantage of you and therefore, that speaks reams about her character, or lack thereof. I would be disappointed in her and mad at myself for falling for her sob story. I'd tell her exactly how I felt from the heart and would end the friendship since it was based on lies. She has the characteristics of a con woman. Time to cut the losses and move on...and learn!


friend
If it is something that is opening her up to being hurt in anyway most defintely i would tell them. It is their choice then to decide what to do. You know how some parents really shouldn't be parents and others are great parents!
friend?
I actually had to call a parent before. My daughter had asked ex-friend to stop writing things about her in her online diary which she did for a while. When it happened again, with a statement to the effect of you asked me to stop writing about you, too bad!, I called the mother and had a little chat. Never happened again. In this case, she actually used my daughter's name so I brought up the fact that it was libel. Print out the bulletin to show parents if you have to.
Friend
I would want to know if it were my daughter. It might get complicated when you first tell them and could cause problems but in the long run you may very well be saving her life. Please don't hesitate to tell the parents.
been where you are, my friend -
I am so sorry. I know this is hard, but here is an idea to try. Have your vet get you some Buprenex to administer at home. It is a very small amount of liquid you give via syringe inserted between her cheek and her teeth. You shoot it into the mouth. Takes less than a second and is painless. It is absorbed nearly instantly. It also causes far fewer side effects than most pain killers. This has worked like a charm when my cats had to have teeth pulled, for one that had all its teeth pulled due to severe stomatitis, and one who had oral cancer in his jaw. Try baby food (the meat types) and AD canned mixed with Pedialite to get food in her and keep her hydrated. You will know when it *is time* to let her go, but please give these things a try and let us know how it goes! My best to you.
Thank you - about my friend (sm)
She was a Christian and throughout her illness she asked for prayers for God's will to be done, not for her healing (although many of us still prayed for her healing). Many of the people posting on here blowing the horn about what great Christians are, are not acting the way true Christians should. I will admit to everyone that I am confused. I can't answer the questions about the suffering that goes on. I am not going to say that those people suffering just didn't have enough faith. The fact is you are not going to get what you want just because you pray for it. You might and you might not. I still believe, but many things in the world still don't make sense to me. I think somewhere along the way, we have gotten the message confused. I posted a link above about some little children who I think have it right.
A friend of a friend has had it done - sm
She did it about a year ago and has lost over 100 pounds but recently starting having severe problems. They ended up having to take them out as she was unable to eat at all basically; nauseous, constant vomiting, etc. She feels much better now though. Not sure of the details but that is the basic gist of it for her.
I'd be mad...no one else is her friend, so why should you be? (sm)
No reason for you to put up with her any more than anyone else does. She's just a snob - maybe if everyone ignores her for a while she will get the hint!
Friend?
 Ever hear of a toxic relationship?  Sometimes they are terribly hard to break, but you will be much better off if you cool it with her for a while, just see her when you absolutely have to. 
I have a friend that did this went from Bob to Rob - sm
I just had a hard time switching to the new name as I had known him for years as "Bob". To him it was more an acknowledgement of his coming out as gay I think. I could care less that he was gay (and had known for a long time before he "came out") but he got mad that I would not call him Rob and so cut off all contact (we are on opposite coasts now, and then, so it is not a big deal either way). Upsetting to lose a friend over something so stoopid, we were both wrong I'd say, I should have tried harder and he should have cut me some slack as I had been a good friend for years. ---This guy's family you mention probably has the same problem, they know him as "Michael"; he should cut them some slack as that is what they are used to. My brother is named Mike, and we all call him Mike, my SIL is the only one who calls him Michael (he has never asked us to call him Michael though). I think he should just learn to live with it and use his new name with new friends and leave his family alone.
I have a friend like that too, SM
She does have a chronic medical condition, but is doing very well. She exercises with a personal trainer several days a week, takes long walks every day, and recently helped her stepdaughter remodel her home! However, she has a handicapped sticker (she brags about never having to walk very far in the winter) and not only that, is on SS disability. She hasn't worked in several years. Oh -- and if her DH or one of her teenagers runs errands, they take her van so they can get the close spots too. :(

And yeah, maybe I'm being judgemental too, but I agree with you 100%.
friend...
You know I guess some people are different but if someone pays $1000 for something I AM NOT asking to borrow it. I don't like borrowing other people's things. If I break it I feel it is my responsibility to replace it. So I just don't. Some people have no problem with it.
Friend
My good friend had a baby 8 days ago.  Beautiful baby boy!  Well her husband took off work 2 weeks to spend time with the baby.  Her mother also lives with them and helps her too.  Her mom also took off a week.  Well I am friends with her mom also.  We talk on the phone too.  I thought I would not call and bother my friend until her husband went back to work.  She won't talk on the phone if her husband is home.  I know, don't ask.  They don't want to take away from time with each other from what I understand.  I personally do talk on the phone when my husband is home.  Different strokes for different folks I guess.  Anyway me and my friend always talked on the phone before the baby was born almost every day.  Unless her husband was off work.  Well since she has had the baby and her husband went back to work, she just has withdrawn herself.  Doesn't want to talk to anyone.  Made the comment to her mom that she doesn't want any company.  Her mom called yesterday and I knew my friends husband was working so I told her mom tell her to call me later when she gets a chance.  The baby sleeps alot so I figured she would.  But she didn't.  I guess I am just confused.  I never went through that.  I wanted to talk to friends.  After a few days of recooperating I wanted friends to see my baby and all.  But I don't understand her.  I know every one is different and I just have to respect her wishes but I as well as another friend of hers is confused.  I should also mention her baby was born with clubbed feet.  She has really been upset about this and asked me in the hospital not to tell anyone.  How can this be hidden when the baby will wear casts for a while?  I am wondering does this sound like postpartum depression? 
friend...
That is why I haven't went. I am respecting wishes. I did not say I was going to go by unannounced. I am honoring her wishes so therefore I am being a real friend. I considered sending a card though.
No, I only had a best friend
back when I was about 12 or 13. I open up to people and think I can trust them and just when I do they turn on me. I don't trust people anymore, been hurt to many times. I see this all the time where I hear ladies talking and hanging out shopping and having a nice time and wish I had that with a friend.
best friend
I have not had a best girlfriend since college. . My fiance is my best friend now. . I like the idea of having a best friend but I think I am not trusting enough. . My daughter has had a best friend since she was 13 - she is 23 now - and I really think they will continue their friendship - I hope so. . I think it is a good thing, just doesn't seem like it is going to happen for me.
I like your friend. . .
xx
Okay, I think you are my new best friend LOL
I can't believe she is going to die! I can, cause she's way too nice for a soap, but I really like her and want her and Vicki to be friends again. Oh, how that death will put Vicki into a tail spin. She's going to feel so horrible for how she treated her. This will definitely push Nikki and Victor back together again too I think. Wonder if Victoria will take over the art gallery?! Wow, lots to think about.

Yes, Heather was going through Ji Min's belongings and found a picture of him with Walter. Paul just saw it as she asked him for help on the Ji Min thing. (not sure, you may already know all of this). Anyway, Paul asked for the complete photo as it was cropped and I'm sure David will be in it. Then all of this will go down in a hurry with the Nikki thing. Wondering if I should watch today's or tape it and watch it WITH Monday's episode, cause I know it will be a cliff hanger today.

Thanks for the website, I will have to check it out.
Also, his FRIEND would help for $200
It sounds like he is not charging you, but he is going to need help and his FRIEND wants compensation. I mean, for someone that doesn't know you personally, to help for only $200, I wouldn't be complaining. Also, if your daughter knows you don't like him, most likely he knows you don't like him. He isn't going to jump at the snap of your fingers to help you if he knows you don't like him. I am sure he will set the furniture where you want it, but he isn't going to unpack all of your things and keep moving furniture around so in other words, you better know where it is going before he gets there. I have moved many times and I have had the same experiences. I don't expect someone to help me design my house for me. Just be appreciative that he said he would help because he could have just said he was too busy PERIOD.

If I were you, I would stop being a meddling mother-in-law and let your daughter have a good marriage with this man if she loves him, or you may be a contributing reason they divorce. Let your daughter be happy! I wouldn't say anything to your daughter if I were you.
I have an old friend--or ex-friend really...
I let something stupid, the details of which I really cannot even remember fully get in the way of our friendship and I miss her terribly. I realize now that it was stupid and that one little let down - or big let down, for that matter - is not bigger than all the times that she was there for me. I was selfish and stupid and not as understanding as I should have been of where her life was at that point in time. Sometimes, I think that taking the back burner is what we need to do to be good friends. I wish that I had been older and a little more understanding when this little (should have been little, anyway) fight happened. I might still have my friend.
This is where my best friend went sm
http://www.denture.com/

She has had them under a month and LOVES THEM. She has been talking properly since day 1.
Best friend
I still keep in contact with my best friend from high school, although not as much as I would like. Her son is my godson. We laugh about the fact that she just became a grandmother (has a 21 and 24 year old) and I have a 15 year old and a 5 year old.
Tell us about your best friend
My best friend is Dawn. We met in first grade - well, I was in 1st, she was in 2nd, and our mothers walked us to school.

We are very very different, but she is the closest thing I have to a sister. She is beautiful, and very "waspy" looking. She is also quite conservative, and we argue politics but as soon as we finish screaming at each other, we laugh. In fact, no one except Dawn and my brother make me laugh uncontrollably.

She has a rough life. She married someone older, who also has a heart condition, he had his first open heart surgery when he was 19. They have 2 kids, and live in a beautiful 5,000 sq. foot home in NJ. Dawn is the sole breadwinner, cause her DH is disabled. They have 2 young teenaged kids. Dawn is a realtor. Aside from being the sole earner, her husband cannot drive, so she has to be everything - her life is not easy.

We can talk to each other about anything, and are always there for each other.
My best friend
My best friend is Betty. We didn't grow up together but met when hubby and I moved here in 1962. She and her family had moved here in 1955. She has 3 boys and the older 2 are the same age as my 2 daughters. I have 1 brother, who is nearly 6 years younger than me, so Betty has been the sister I never had. There's nothing we can't talk about and agree on just about everything. We see each other several times a week and talk on the phone everyday. There's nothing we wouldn't do for each other. We have complete trust in each other and know that things told in confidence will go no further. There's not much we enjoy more than an all day shopping trip to the larger town an hour's drive from here. Through the years, our families have vacationed together many times. Our DH's are good friends and have enjoyed many fishing trips together with several other guys. I'm interested in everything that's happening with her children, grandchildren and great-grandchild, just as she is in mine. We are truly like family, not just friends. I don't know what I would do without her friendship and I feel truly blessed to have her in my life!

My best friend is the best ever
Lullabee - I love her. We met in the Army together and became instant friends. When I couldn't do the running in basic training she was right there with me dragging me over the finish line. When I was homesick she was right there hugging me and comforting me like a sister and I was there for her too. When she had to stay up for 24-hour duty, I would stay up with her keeping her company (and awake). People who didn't know us even would ask us if we were sisters. In AIT we both paced ourselves so we would graduate at the same time. Unfortunately we couldn't get stationed together. She eventually went her way and I went mine but we've stayed in touch all this time and visit when we can. When my mom died I received 4 cards (blast all those other inconsiderate people I thought were friends). And 2 of the cards were from her. Although we haven't written to each other in over a year when we do it's like we never stopped writing - just get busy in our lives. When I talk to we laugh for long periods so hard that we end up crying cos it hurts too much. We are like sisters. - Okay, I really have to write to her now.
I had a friend like this
We thought she was great for years. About the same thing went down except we never hired her to do anything. She just went nuts. It got to the point that ignoring her or telling her to be gone didn't work. We sent her a certified letter stating that any further contact from her of any kind would be considered harassment and reported to the police as such. She finally stopped. She had gone so far as to damage our cars.
I have a friend like you
She has been an enabler to her sons all their lives. She is now about 65 and her sons both have treated her like dirt, calling her names, cursing her out. It does not change, never has for her and really will not for you either. You can either choose to live your life like that and be miserable or just let them be on their own. Personally I would not put up with that but some people for some reason just like to be beaten down.
Are you saying you moved to help a friend....sm
and are miserable because of the uncontrolled kids and revolving doors of people coming/going all day? Then get another place to move out and get some peace & quiet.
No theme - just friend getting together
NM