No it doesn't.... your post said *animals don't think or feel - sm
Posted By: and my post says they DO. on 2007-08-09
In Reply to: Your post says exactly what mine did. Animals are pack - animal, she is missing her pack.You agree with me.
like humans*. Maybe they don't think about global warming or who should be the next president, but they do think, and they most definitely have feelings and emotions.
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Probably Doesn't have animals or a clue
You'd think somebody that doesn't have them would at least know they do have nerve endings and can feel pain and suffering. I cannot get over the selfishness of this person. Makes me ashamed to be a member of the human race, and hopefully a day will come someone who does something this unconscionable will be able to be charged with leaving the scene of an accident. The courts are moving closer and closer to protecting animals in situations like this.
And to whoever said not to call the humane society, for God's sake, WHY? Why NOT call somebody who would help?
God doesn't judge animals.
I don't judge animals. Animals don't know right from wrong. They are merely animals and they act on instinct. If an animal possesses an instinct to kill a human when there is no threat, then that animal should be put down. The life of a human is infinitely more valuable than the life of an animal. Somehow it doesn't seem like you believe that.
You're SO wrong! Animals DO think and feel! - sm
A dog is a *pack* animal, and when it doesn't live in a wild pack like a wolf, and lives in the company of humans instead, it considers the humans it's pack. This includes the hierarchy, too. This is why many people have no control of their dogs - the dog has established itself as the *alpha* dog.
Dogs thrive on the company of their family. A *lone wolf* is an unhappy wolf, and a dog abandoned in a yard for weeks on end (or even in an apartment all day) is definitely an unhappy dog.
Your post says exactly what mine did. Animals are pack
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sadly it doesn't feel at all like Christmas to me...
I mean on the one hand I am so thankful and blessed for all that I have and all that I am able to do, I know this..
Three weeks ago I moved from Nevada to South Carolina to be closer to my 4-month old niece (my sister's husband is stationed at Camp Lejeune) Thanks to MT, I could pick up and go... However we are so far from home and even though I adore my niece (hello i moved to be closer to her!!) It is really not the same without my parents (who are still in California where we grew up) and my older sister who lives in Nevada where I do.
I miss the dinner my dad cooks, I miss just spending time with them, even though I am happy to be in the company I am. if that makes sense. come on I miss the family fights!!!
On the other hand, I did absolutely NO shopping this year, which really puts me in a sour mood as well. I just simply didn't have the money and with the economy getting worse, it just wouldn't be smart to keep adding to my already mile high debt... So that is another reason I am not feeling Christmas this year.
Christmas is normally my favorite time of the year... the lights, the happiness, just the season for being "merry".
I am a happy person and above I said I am blessed. I know these things, but it's a sad Christmas this year. Even though that precious face below makes me light up like never before...
I miss my home and I wish they would move closer :(
That is me being selfish, I know!!!
I am hoping my spirit lifts tomorrow and I'd really like to bake some cookies. My brother in law wants snickerdoodles and I wanted to try those, never have before. any good recipes?
I know things will pick back up. This was a huge move for me, I left all the people I knew and loved and it is definitely an adventure and I'm proud of myself, don't get me wrong. The holidays ALWAYS put you in a certain kind of mood!!! :)
I wish everyone the best and can't wait for the start of a new year!! Merry Christmas
Then she shouldn't post here if she doesn't want
with someone telling her to get up off her butt and look for a job? It takes two months to realize you aren't making enough money?
I feel more sorry for someone who experiences a true tragedy. Not someone who sits around and waits for the crap to hit the fan.
She needs to read some of the recommendations here and do something.
It is better than nothing.
I just read my post, if it doesn't make sense
feel free to e-mail if this is something you are interested in.
My convictions are what they are & I can post what I feel is right. Sorry if you don't
my options at all.
Great post - I'm 50 and feel the same way - sm
Maybe things will change now that we are headed into a recession / depression? There is a new interest in "simplicity" and a frugal lifestyle, so maybe there's hope?
Thanks everyone, the thousand dollar post before made me feel CHEAP!
I will go with the gas card and some cash, good ideas. I think I got 10 bucks and told I had to start to pay more "board". Times are changing. I don't remember last time we gabbed about this subject but the gifts were way up there for high school. These sound more like what I can afford.
Hey, have at it. If you want a lazy, apathetic, not affectionate, doesn't listen, doesn't make
can reach him!!! Let me know if you're interested.
It doesn't make me mad but it doesn't sound intelligent either (sm)
I am sure if all of those people who were aborted were living, some would be good and some would be bad, in the same proportion as there is good to bad now. Your statement makes no sense. So somehow the babies who were aborted were meant to be aborted because they were bad seeds? Whatever. Sorry, that's just silly.
It doesn't always work that way though - some give but it doesn't come back like that nm
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Just a tip about animals
As I am getting cleaned up from Christmas and heading towards the New Year, thought I would pass on something that I do and if you don't know about it and can do the same, here tis: I get the newspapers each day (along with lots of subscriptions to different magazines), save them up and when I get a big bunch I take them to my local animal shelter. They cut them up and use for bedding for the animals. Pass it on.....
Well at least they like animals...
I'd take them for neighbors over someone who *shoots at* animals, any day!
Animals
Dogs and cats are good! That will be a fun job and animals are so loving and grateful for anything we do. Good choice too since you get free vet care you can get another dog! Or two. You can never have enough dogs. I only have three. I need a bigger house so I can have more dogs! They are our "babies" and are spoiled. I would hate to transcribe without my dogs who sit next to me and "wait" - what have I ever done to deserve this? I just accept it and feel loved.
animals
If she could have someone else feed them honestly it would save her a bunch. The minimum I have seen places charge and I have moved around alot was 16 a night per animal. Sometimes if you can put 2 in the same cage they give you a small discount on one animal per cage.
what we will do for our animals. .
One year my cat just kept jumping up into the middle of the tree. . we came home from work several times with the tree in the floor. . we eventually anchored the tree to the floor AND ceiling. . . as he got older he got calmer. . I'm sad to say last Christmas was his last - he died in January at age 17. . . He was a good friend. .
Yup, just like animals, neither can they. LOL
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animals
I would do the samething, have two dogs that I love dearly which one is blind and has lived in the same house since she was a puppy, and still runs into the walls and things. It is so sad to see, so I would never do anything to make it any harder on her. Bless you for being so caring.
raw animals
The wild animal the dog kills wasn't raised on a factory farm under conditions favorable for salmonella epidemics, and wasn't force-fed antibiotics to cover the many diseases hens get when they live in such tight quarters.
Then again, the raw chicken is actual chicken, rather than "animal digest" or the other euphemisms the pet food industry uses to cover the miserable quality of their food (even the premium brands are just awful).
And just look at how animals
almost always hook up with another animal friend ... even natural enemies.
I guess if you are very social, you can get enough from other people and activities. I get drained too easily and so would rather have my mate than be alone.
how do you know that? Unfortunately animals
cannot tell us how they feel, not before and not after.
Poor animals!
A ''crate'' is just a nice term for a cage. How sad to cage a dog or cat.
You can only try. That is what we did with my son. His stuffed animals SM
were his worst nightmare allergy-wise.
I've had dogs with dry skin, but never were they were that miserable. I wonder if they make a doggie lotion that could help or if there is some type of herbal remedy like who knows what but some type of oil safe for doggie skin.
I have two black labs now and one puppy Yorkie. My older black labs gets some dry skin on his belly, but nothing too bad.
Don't give up. You'll find it!
All animals, pets or not are most definitely
.
Thanks for that one. Animals rule!
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What is it with old stinky animals!
My old dog and old horse really do "smell like old people." They have a funk of their own when compared to the younger animals of same species, even though they are all completely healthy. I think it's just what happens, the why's and how's though, I am completely clueless about. I really have an especially soft spot for the ol' senior critters though.
Animals in heaven? NM
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social animals
Rodents, rats especially, are very very social animals and are intelligent and desire human contact. I've had 6 diff rats, all are passed away now cause they only last a few years, but they are very playful and will play with you and like to be held, petted and carried around. The more you do that the more friendly they get!
Have fun!
wild animals
My fiance used to live in a subdivision in our small town. . every night, possums and racoons came up on his back deck and looked through the sliding glass door at us while we were watching TV in the living room. . We enjoyed seeing them and sometimes we would put food out for them. .
I have to share this also because I think it is a once in a lifetime thing - yesterday we were walking on my fiance's farm and saw a deer giving birth. . we got to within about 35 yards of it. . We only watched for about 10 minutes because we could tell we were making it very nervous. . I hope they both do okay. .
for my animals -- YES absolutely!
i don't think its a bit crazy to CARE for your animals, and take care of them. Bless your heart!
fostering animals
Does anyone foster animals? I've been thinking of fostering a dog or cat and wonder what exactly is involved.
There are those that believe animals have souls-
I doubt they would find it ridiculous, though I do agree that this whole thread is ridiculous. The OP wanted to start a fire and she got it.
Animals very much desirable,
in your own homes, not running loose in the neighborhood. I have inside pets, they live longer inside anyway.
Like I said, I love most animals and have more than...
my fair share of them including a horse that is losing her teeth and anyone else would put down because it is very expensive to keep her around and very cheap to replace her at this point, but I just can't do it, as she is very healthy. I am just not such a cat person and I really hope that my husband does not bring on home, but if he did, I would expect it to stay outside. Terrible, I know, but that is just the way I am.
Antidepressants help some animals, too.
I do appreciate life and have respect for animals.
I just don't think they should be shoved in my face.
I agree - there are many children in stores who should be taken outside to be handled. However, people are NOT animals.
Unfortunately, most doglovers cannot appreciate this difference.
So even animals help decide our fate???
Where did you read this or learn about this? I've never heard that animals will speak for or against us on judgement day...interesting. Guess I'm in the clear, I don't do animals, don't own them, don't abuse them, don't like 'em!
You don’t have to love animals, that is not the point
although I find them much more rewarding that most people I know, you have to be really sick to hurt one.
I like how you called your animals *somebody*...that is cute
If *somebody* gets sick on the weekend....
Animals ARE people too!
You sound like a good mother :)
They think like pack animals, not humans. They are
asdf
With the brood of 10 animals here's the list:
DOGS: Shaina, Tiger & Taffy
CATS: Pearl, Hollow, Ember, Ribbon & Samson
RABBIT: Bonnie
BETA FISH: Jacqueline
Vet's name for all of them: Money (just kidding - just seeing if you're paying attention).
I think there are probably more animals in heaven than people, too. (nm)
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My animals have spring fever
MY 2 cars, one is 13+ and the other is almost 7 are bugging me along with my dog to play, and just pay some attention to them. It is nice outside and they sure have the spring bug. Hard to resist them. Just took the dog for a long run in the park with another neighbor's puppy and though it would calm her down but now, she bring in her stuffed animals and when I ignore her she will throw them at my chair to get my attention. So I keep taking 5 to 10 minutes to play and now am behind. Oh well, it only happens a couple of times a year so gotta enjoy it. But even the 13 year old is sitting on my desk, which she never does, and playing with my papers, pens, knocking things down and then just looking at me, like "Did I do that." But it is so nice here in Portland today, up to 60 gotta take advantage as will probably rain tomorrow.
Kids, animals and ghosts (sm)
When we first moved into our home, our then 2 year-old dog had a habit of chasing us and playfully biting our heels, shifting from heel to heel. One day he did that when there was no one there, chasing his invisible friend all the way to the wall. I used to feel the presence of someone here all the time. In the middle of the night, every night, for years, I would suddenly feel something hit the mattress at the foot of the bed, like someone would walk by and just pat the mattress hard or jump on it (though they couldn't have been very heavy). My son when he became able to talk asked me, "who is that white guy who comes in here at night?" This house was built in 1959, the man who built it died in the yard next door, building his daughter's house. His wife lived here for many years after that and passed away in the hospital about a year before we moved in.
I never felt there was any malicious spirit here but it still disturbed me some. One day I walked around he entire house, step by step, carrying a Bible saying, "this house belongs to God in Jesus' name." I also felt the presence of something in the hall and I told it to leave this house, felt it stayed, and said in a very firm voice, "NOW!" I never felt anything hit the bed again, haven't felt any more odd presences, and my children have never said anything else nor are they afraid at night. They sleep with me sometimes when my husband is out of town, just because they want to, but not because they are scared. I spent my whole childhood being afraid of ghosts....glad they don't have to feel that way.
I can compare anything I like and I like, no love, animals
She used disability payments to pay for her invitro, saying she will use student loans (hope those will disappear) to raise the children (that is not what they are for), collecting disability until that ran out, food stamps, a total wreck of a person, does not have an income, living in a 3 bedroom house with 17 people and who brought up abortion. Not me. She should have never gotten pregnant with this litter because she already had 6 other that she could not care for. Her mother (the person she lives with) is tired of taking care of the 6, much less the added burden on her with 8 more. I could care less what the faith board has to say about me. I lose no sleep over what I say. If she can ask for donations for her brood I can certainly ask for donations for my animals. I am trying to help some of earth's problems, not cause more. Forget you.
I'll feed your animals before I'd even
offer her a Kleenex to wipe a kid's nose!
No one was comparing the babies to animals
Why do you not read the postings correctly. I said I might as well ask for contributions for my animal rescue if THE MOTHER could put up a website asking for contributions. I see no difference at all. I pay it forward almost every week doing my rescuing and contributing to causes I find worthwhile contributing to, not a psycho person who intentionally populates the earth by herself and has no way of taking care of such a litter. I am very angry at people like you who are bleeding hearts. Give them all your money- I know just by the glimpses I see of this wanna be Angelina Jolie that she will have to look elsewhere for help other than this person of sound mind. I do not give money for stoopid causes. Have at it!
I love animals so much and this is just precious!
Have 2 cats and 1 kitten and love where the kitty is grooming the deer. Thanks for sharing this!
Amanda, I would hate to be without my animals
and in fact I rescue for the love of getting them out of a place where otherwise they would be put down. An owner surrender is not good. Did you find out prior to taking your kitty to the shelter if it is a no kill place. Some are, others not so. I got a doggie not too long ago, not smart of me but trying to save a poor little doggie took this girl in. I had no room for her and lucky for me went on Craigs and found a place that would take any and all. That was the place where I met these people I now do rescuing with. I have 3 pets and you would probably just have to string me up first before I would let them go. They are my family.
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