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So, it's not so much the church as it is the unannounced knock on the door.

Posted By: nm on 2007-03-05
In Reply to: Churches are the worst. - Annoyed MT

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there was a knock at the door, our then 3 yr old
comes running into the kitchen, 'mommie, mommie, tony the creature is here!!"

(our preacher had come by for a visit)
Yes, they can show up unannounced
But you DO have the right to insist on a court order for them to talk to the children alone. They will try to insist they have the authority, but you should still show some backbone and insist on either being present for the conversation or having the conversation taped. It helps if you have your own tape recorder handy with blank tape and batteries ready to go. This saves a lot of lies and false accusations afterward, when there is a recording of what was said.

I believe that most social service workers are genuinely trying to help kids. There are a few out there, however, whose definition of helping kids involves getting them away from their loving concerned parents due to the social worker's own opinions about what constitutes proper childrearing. Those few out there can create havoc in your life if your views don't line up with their views (for example, you believe in spanking and they don't, or you believe your 11-year-old can watch your 3-year-old for 15 minutes unsupervised, and they don't).

Just because they carry themselves with an air of authority does not mean that they actually HAVE that authority. Question everything, document everything, report everything!
why do people go door to door to talk about their religion?

arent they settitng themselves up for confrontatoin?


We normally do have the door locked but the garage door was open...

and my husband did ask them to call first and they still didn't listen...they never do...I think they think they don't have to call...


I would tell them not to visit unannounced any longer.
:)
I would join a church or church group. SM
I'm sure you will find someone like yourself, who likes to do the things you do, whether friend is male or female.

I'm laughing, because I am not religious fanatic. I do go to place of worship, but believe me, not fanatical.
church, church, courthouse. Married the same man
all 3 times. 
Well my church is a SB church in South Georgia
So maybe you're going to the wrong SB church!
Door to door sock salesman

Okay, so yesterday a little old man shows up at my door. Now let me say that I do not live in a neighborhood, really. I live on a major highway so you actually have to drive into my driveway and you can't really get to the next house without getting back in your car and driving there.


So I open the door and there's this little old man there with pairs of socks in large ziplock bags. He says:


"I'm raising money for a cancer operation to get cancer out of my stomach and I want you to buy these two bags of socks."


I say, "I'm sorry, I don't have any cash in the house, but good luck."


"How can you not have any cash in the house?"


"We use credit cards."


"You can't just use credit cards. Doesn't your husband live with you?"


"He's at work. Good luck, have a nice day."


"Well when he gets home he should have cash on him."


"Nope sorry, we're not interested. Have a good day."


I closed the door and he left.


Odd....very odd. But here's where it gets even more odd.


Today he showed up AGAIN. Only this time he didn't come to the door. He sat in his car in my driveway and beeped his horn. My mail lady does this when we have a package so I opened the door to go out, thinking it was her. The dog scooted out and while I was trying to get him back in I realized it was this man again......BEEPING for me to come to his car to sell the socks, I guess. I was so mad that my dog got loose I looked at him and yelled "WHAT DO YOU WANT??? I don't need any socks today!!!" Picked up the dog and went back in the house and slammed the door. He didn't get a word in edgewise. I'm hoping he won't be back.....I was down right RUDE to this man. I never speak to anyone that way. Hopefully he won't be back. Steve is concerned that he showed up a second time and even more concerned that he wanted me to go to his car this time. He wants me to get a plate number if this man comes back.


You could always lets her knock it over once - sm
ours did that when she was about 9 months old, now never messes with it. She likes to lie under the tree but does not mess with a thing. But we do have a cat that is more like a dog though, sleeps at my feet in bed, only scratches on her scratching post, comes over when she wants to be petted or held, is just a good cat. Her only real flaw is her puking, she pukes at least once a week, usually on the carpet. If she could contain it to the tile floors I would care less but she has a nasty habit of doing it anywhere and usually on the carpet. I do give her the hairball stuff (which I have to sneak and just put it on her paw (top side) so she has to lick it off) which helps a lot with that, still aggravating. It is funny to see her laying under the tree, usually behind the nativity we have, hovering over it like a big sphinx.
Memory foam/Tempurpedic knock off
I bought each of my kids a Tempur imitation a few years ago through an ebay store, and they still LOVE them. Haven't been able to afford more than a 2-inch topper for my and DH's bed, but it still is worth its weight in gold to me. My SIL had an authentic Tempurpedic and returned it to the store after a a few days--couldn't stand it. To each his own I guess, but I will definitely never buy another coil spring mattress again.
Wal-Mart worker dies after shoppers knock him down
just read about it online. people are jerks. I can remember one time being in a line for ice cream at a fair, a very long line, and the person behind me was pushed right up against me. If anything like that ever happens again, i will turn around and says, keep your freakin boobs off me, you weirdie.
In a church
with a full catholic mass and I guess what you'd call a traditional receptionist.
In a church...sm
The same church where I was baptized and confirmed and where my kids were baptized and confirmed. 
church school

Well, I didn't say the ONLY place to find teachers who care is at a church school, and I certainly don't believe that.  I do think your chances of finding them in a church school are a whole lot higher, however.  I didn't intend to create a religious argument either.  I was genuinely interested in why you would not want your children in a church school. 


UPDATE. Mom is at the church
I guess she heard me. LOL.

Get ready for the next battle over the baby. I would love to raise that baby myself. She is adorable.
You could always go through the motions and go to church
to please him. I do that with my family. I respect my family's religion, but I just don't believe in organized religion. If it is only important for him to have you in church and you don't mind, you can always try that. If his issue is that you have faith enough to be a Catholic, that will be a tough road.
Are you looking to hook up with your church guy?
If you REALLY want to leave, do it while he's at work. Call the police and have them assist you.
Yes, definitely!! Call him Church. (nm)
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lol - you are 2 much, church lady!
LMAO
We grew up going to the same church
until we were about 11 or so. He moved and I didn't see him again until my senior year of school when he moved back into our home town. He looked me up and we started dating. We got married when I graduated high school and we will have been married for 36 years in June of this year. I was 19 and he was 21.
I live near this church
and heard on local news the pastor himself is having difficulty with it, whatever that means!
church is a coverup for sm
many of these guys. It still doesn't change the fact that he can and will hurt you! You haven't read about "church people" and pastors beating their wives or murdering their wives? What are you waiting for? My opinion? You do not want out. you say you wnat help but then don't listen. That is why you are in the situation you are in. What do you care what people at church say or if they are for him or you? IT DOES NOT MATTER! GET OUT AND WORRY ABOUT IT LATER!
if you ask a church for help they ask if you are a member
but limit funds to help the needy
At the church I used to attend --

they instituted a "reform program," whereby the associate pastor and elder members of the church agreed to take in single men who were recently paroled.  They dressed up and brought them to church every week.  They were introduced when they first came, but nothing was mentioned about their "crime life", etc. 


My point is, to the newer church goers, these men seemed like perfectly respectable church-going men, all the while they weren't.  Please keep this in mind.


I met my husband at church when sm
I was 16 years old and married at 18. I am now 54 and will be married 36 years in July!
Since the Catholic Church
is still firmly entrenched in the Dark Ages, it is no surprise. That poor child, but BRAVO to her parents.

Mine was about 2 yrs. ago in church
We were having communion, the grape juice was being past, as I went to pass it the tray hit the back of a seat in the row ahead of us . Cups , juice & the tray went flying . I sat there numb & couldn't move, I felt everyone staring at me . It all ended up on the carpet & a few upholstered seats ! One of them men serving got splattered, he was wearing a tan suit , I help so bad, felt like leaving . A young man cleaned up the mess & we went on with the service . The church has new carpeting & new seats now & I 'm really careful not to have this happen again .

please do not let the door hit you on your bum

Right next door,
Henry, close to Eagles Landing - we can visit....
As a member of a large church I am always around others. We have different sm
groups and we do dinner once a month, shopping once a week (if you can make if of course), movies once a month, etc. Then I attend a Bible study on Wednesdays with another large group of women and we will get together a lot and talk on the phone during the week, etc. This, along with my family, sister, in laws, etc., and I am far from being an introvert working at home doing MT. Been at it for 8 years.

To be honest, and don't take this the wrong way, but as an MT or anyone who works from home, you decide if you want friends, a social life, etc. We work 8 hour days or some of us work 4 hours. That leaves you lunch hour to get together with a friend or 2, after work for dinner, shopping, and a movie, and then weekends for a couple of hours. We all need balance. It is not healthy to be at home all day with no interaction whatsoever. You will begin to suffer if you continue living that way. Trust me, as a former depressed person who suffered from post-partum depression for 4 years (yes, you read that right!), I had to make a decision that I would not exclude myself from my friends and family, would make NEW friends while I was at it, and it has turned me into a very positive and fun person to be with.

I can't tell you how many parties I've hosted since coming out of my depression. My friends call me Rachel Ray with a mix of Paula Deen (I'm leaning more towards Paula), since I LOVE to decorate and entertain and be a blessing to others, ministering to them if I can, lend an ear or a hand if I can and have an "open" home where people can drop by if they need to talk about something. My life has been fantastic since overcoming depression.

I'm not saying all extroverts are depressed, but that was the reason for me.

Good luck.
Westboro Baptist Church. sm
Ladies there is a bunch called Westboro Baptist church that does this sickening protesting and they call themseves christian.  They were the group that was going to show up up the Omish school house funerals.  This is a "christian" organization.  Hannity and Colmes let them come on FAUX and they agreed not to show up at Omish funerals.
no, she's not gonna hook up with church guy
nm
This guy has to get a clue. He isn't a pastor. He has no church. If he did sm
he'd have members. This guy thinks he's leading, but he's only taking a walk.

I kind of feel sorry for him, though. I am in the ministry. If the people don't support you, you have no ministry. This guy has no support. If he did he wouldn't have had to do what he did. He probably didn't bother telling anyone because these people aren't committed to attending his "church" anyway.

If it were me, I'd cut my losses, pray for him and move on. Don't call the police, just move on.

One of the biggest problems facing the church today is bitterness, resentment and unforgiveness between believers.

I know you probably don't want to hear this - but join a church! sm
I would be homeless and helpless without my church friends/family. They are better to me than my own family.
i received numerous cards and most were from church folks. There are people who care! I wish I had your name and address because I'd send you something special. I'm serious.
It's just so sad. I think sometimes people give their church (sm)
too much power instead of reading their Bible and seeing what they think God actually thinks. Different churches have different opinions and I don't see how a person can just allow the church to make a life decision like that for them.
Our church has WMU/Brotherhood meetings
and every couple of months we switch it up and the guys cook instead of the girls. It's always interesting, and yeah, some do bring buckets, but its fun to see what they make. Last time our pastor made pecan brownies and they were actually really good! (He actually read the directions on the box!)

P.S. WMU -Womans Mission Union
Brotherhood - Men of the church who do missions projects
baked potatoes to church
Wash and cut in half each potato. Wrap in aluminum foil and bake. Leave the foil on. They will stay hot about 2-3 hours out of the oven. I have used this recipe for 100 people. Put the toppings on ice! It is always a hit!
Amen to that sista! Don't ask a SB church for help nm

Just don't answer the door.
Just don't answer the door.
Door jams
They make little squared off cat scratchers to go over the door jams, this might save your husband some work, love my cats, have 3 couldn't live without them.
Just now getting up to lock the door?
My husband can be home- doesn' matter- I always keep my doors locked. I see people on TV news who are broken in on, murdered, assulted, raped - they said where they lived didn't think it would happen there?? Happens everywhere.
Actually, my side is to the door. sm
Can't put the desk anywhere else but in this corner.
You either need a door with a lock or - sm
to set up some kind of boobie trap that scares them first (I.e. something popping out at them when they enter the room).  A taste of their own medicine would do them good
How about locking the door? Better yet...
ask them to call you first. If you can't ask them, have your husband ask them. It's YOUR home, isn't it?
I wish I lived right next door to
help you with your project. That's my kind of fun. :oD I wuv a good rottie. Can't imagine playing with 3 of them.
Message on Door
I am a word nut.  Transcriptionist in me I guess.  But the Family Dollar Store at the corner of my street has a hand written sign posted on their door saying "We No Longer Except Credit Cards".  I get a chuckle every time I go in there.  Should I tell them or not?????
door even if no answer there, either.
x
She needs a doc with a sign over his door that sez -
..
My children have all gone to the private school through our church
anti christian or something, but I really don't know.  I believe, perhaps, what the poster meant is that teachers who work in private church operated school settings do so because it is their ministry or calling by God.  For me, knowing that my child is in a setting where the teacher loves God, children, and teaching is comforting to me. 
If she really loved him, she would bring church to him. She wouldn't go if sm
he didn't want her to go and would respect him. That is just my opinion.