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The "Harley Group" people speak of here

Posted By: clhmt on 2007-02-02
In Reply to: There is a funeral in our area this weekend for ... - PAMT~MDM

Are actually the Patriot Guard Riders

http://www.patriotguard.org/

They are made up of anyone who wants to join. You don't have to ride, you can go on foot or by car.

My husband and I are riders and are really proud of all the fine people in the Patriot Guard.

They usually don't go though, unless the family requests/consents, because they don't want to cause additional grief. Instructions are to not engage troublemakers, and shield the families as much as possible.

Thank God for Patriot Guard riders!


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why can people immigrate to the US if they don't yet speak the language? Canada you have to speak
We briefly looked at emigrating to Canada. They have a point system for admission. You must know at least one and preferably two of their national languages to be admitted (English and French). You also must be young, healthy, and either independently wealthy, or educated and highly skilled in high-income professions. You cannot have a family member with a chronic illness, even if they are not coming with you, because you might send your income home to help them rather than spending it in the Canadian economy. Every child or dependent you have is measured against your wage earning power and if it looks like your family might tax the social system too much, you are turned down. This all makes perfect sense even though it may seem unfair (we looked at it before and decided not to go due to their arms laws. Now they wouldn't take us anyway because I have been diagnosed with MS since then).

This is very, very different from the US who it seems will take anyone and everyone.

I heard about a US chicken processing factory that was working with Welfare to put people to work because their supply of immigrant labor had run short. So, why don't we limit immigration until every American is working who can? And pay them a living wage with healthcare (illegal immigrants are too afraid to ask for these things and so the wage drops and benefits are not provided).
Because it is unusual that people speak ONLY one language!..nm
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I would say no, I speak though as one of the few who cannot -sm
breastfeed though (apparently something is missing or does not work right anyways ), so both my kids were formula fed. It is dangerous to have it drilled into you that you should breast-feed. I tried and tried not knowing any better and my poor daughter basically starved her first week of life, once the doctor's realized I was not making any milk they/we got her on formula right away. I had been giving her about 4 ounces a day of formula anyway once we suspected something was wrong, but they basically yelled at me for doing that. Luckily my child made it through okay and boy could she suck it down once she had something to drink. Too much emphasis is put on breastfeeding, etc. Most of us were probably formula fed and I am sure we all turned out okay.
Please, you cannot speak for all of us...

because I happen to be a Jewish person who believes ALL PEOPLE are the sons and daughters of G_d......and let us not forget that Jesus was Jewish!


We are all the sons and daughters of The Lord......we all need to open our minds.


Have a GREAT Saturday and Shabbot Shalom!! 


Me too, but only if I could speak
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Group singing
I think the group songs have been much better this year than previous years I've watched. Mostly their voices blend well and pitch has been good.

Didn't Chris sing well during his solos in the group songs? I think it was just fierce competition/tough schedule that dis him in. Either that or he just wanted to go home.
The name of the group is Heartland -
I just looked up the words to see if I could find them - I did - I cried again. 
Hope they are a better group than this
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Maybe a cat or dog rescue group needs help. - nm
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Choosing a group

You can pick a charity by clicking on the "Add a Charity" button at the bottom of the page.  On the next page, on the left side, is a box for the not-for-profits groups.  If you click that you will see all the groups listed.


Or you can just type in "Pet Rescue By Judy" and use that one, LOL!


Once you have selected your group you can check how much your are helping by clicking on the "amount raised" button.


Can you imagine how much MTs can help with all the searching we do!  We have the power you guys!  Don't forget to shop through this site also!  You can shop for Target, ebay and many others.  Just click on the shop through GoodSearch and shop as usual.  It really helps!  You can make GoodSearch your home page too and see just how much you can help!


Thanks for all the great responses!  May God bless you with many, many lines, easy reports and no ESLs this week!


Pat


 


 


 


 


Is this the same group against Gays?
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Youth Group Name

My DH is a youth pastor, our Youth Group at the beach was called WAVES, which stood for Worship Active Voices Exclaiming Salvation.  We moved up to the mtns of our state, and he had coined the name for our Youth Group as EXCITE, which stands for Exalting Christ in Today's Environment!!.  We are still looking for a home church since we moved in Jan 2007.  My DH is getting very disheartened...  Good luck to your Youth Group.  Oh, by the way, if you live anywhere close to Myrtle Beach, SC then consider taking your youth next year to the Big God Conference on New Year's eve/day.  It is AWESOME!!


Wonder what a group of men would be saying about women?
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Please don't group everyone under the assumption
that our jobs are unfulfilling. I enjoy my work and am very happy with my accounts.
Oh, and I think anyone can start a group there.

You can start an MTStars group most likely.  It will advertise MTStars as an MT forum and then if people use monikers, they can say who they are, or they can just be a part of the Facebook MTStars group.  I am not sure if MTStars would mind or not, so maybe we should ask the admin, but I would think the would want posters to draw their friends here.  JMO.  I don't want to step on any toes though.  It is networking and I learn a lot from Stars. 


So, Yeah, Thanks for being here MTStars...   


I feel bad for the 1st group. There were
several more of them that would have made the top 12 if they have been included in this group rather than their own.
I can't speak from experience, but (sm)
by what you describe, it sounds as if it was caught early.  This makes all the difference, from what I have read with all cancers, but especially with ovarian cancer - very hard to detect.  So that cyst was probably a good thing for you!!  I will keep you in my prayers.  Let us know how things go. 
Ask to speak with his supervisor and also
write a letter to the bank (and headquarters) telling them what happened and make sure you get the man's name and refer to him often in your letter.
speak for yourself SWEETHEART--sm
but not this person. Just stay away from me...I don't want to get hit by any lightening bolts aimed at you. lol. and please stop trying to shove your atheist beliefs down my throat, too. It is all BS as far as I am concerned.
Excuse, did not speak about yours
you must have been trying to read between the lines and never said anything about your dear one. You imaged.
consider yourself blessed - not many speak same
     
It's your husband who should speak up for you, but
know that the situation may never change to a warm, loving relationship with your in-laws. I'm in something of the same situation, but nowhere near as bad as yours. I haven't really had to have my husband speak up for me, because in my case, I don't really care to socialize with my siblings-in-law. My MIL was always nice about sitting for the kids, but now that my kids are grown, that's not a factor anymore. The last time we all gathered together was at my FIL's funeral last year.

It is harder when you have little children, and your own supportive family is 3000 miles away. But where you need to place your focus is on your husband and yourself. Talk with him about it, calmly. What does he say? Is he willing to keep his relationship with his family to the courtesy sort of functions where ALL of you are invited? If so, HE should tell them why he is keeping his family (you and the children are his family now) from this toxic situation. And if they agree to have you all at their functions but still treat you badly, then it's your husband who should address the situation with his sisters and mother. If you are the person at the front of this, you will never win. Your husband has to realize that you and his children are his first responsibility, and that he should defend that relationship at all cost.
I do not see how any siblings could ever speak to him again
Maybe they have forgiven but I have heard (not from my friend) but other members of the family he is a gambler, womanizer and really not someone you would want to be around. This, though the friend says, had absolutely nothing to do with wanting the name change but parents are not always someone you can look up to and honor. I respected my father until I found out about the molestation, then no more.
What is the "pop" of which you speak?

Not trying to cause trouble, just don't understand what you are saying. 


To the OP - hang in there!  It will work out. 


I would suggest she also speak with
the hospital administration about this issue.  I would think it is a definite violation not to have him in an isolated room, which would be indicated outside the patient's room.  Not only are they being exposed, but the patient may be being exposed to other viruses in an immune-compromised state.
It does speak to his character.........
Others can try to sugar coat it or find excuses, but it does speak to his character and what he deems important. Did your daughter speak up and say anything to him about this or did she just sit idly by? I have had the same situation and it does speak volumes for both.
do you speak with your hands - and I don't mean
My husband does not listen to me either. He looks like he's paying attention but he misses half of what I say. Couple thought I have is. Awhile ago we were watching a TV special it said that people listen and remember what you say when you talk with your hands (the study was done on school children). Well I don't talk with my hands. Never have and don't know how and when it do it just looks odd. I told him maybe I should start talking with my hands because then he would remember what I tell him.

I'm not sure if this is a normal thing for guys or not. We've been married 26 years and he hardly ever listens to me. I have to repeat things 2 and 3 times. Once we were getting ready to do 3 errands. As we were driving I asked where he was going and he said to this place and I said no, we have to hit these other 2 places first and he claims I never told him. I said I told him twice and then he became irate as though I was pointing out a mistake (he does not take kindly to me pointing out that he made a mistake even if I say it nicely, but he has no qualms in telling me whenever I made a mistake). Anyway...I don't know when my husband stopped listening to me either. Maybe about 10 or so years ago. He'll listen, but I think a lot of it is if I don't say what he want's to hear he just tunes me out. Our things are not major life threatening issues, but a lot have to do with "what he's going to do when he grows up". He's been out of work for about 5 years now and he doesn't know what he wants to do with his life (he's 50 years old). We will talk and talk and talk and then the next day it's back to square one like I never said anything.

Sometimes what I will do that helps is I take scratch pieces of paper and I write notes on them and them leave them all over the place. Like I keep a running list of errands we have to do and keep it on the corner of the table and a couple times through the week I will say we need to to this or we need to do that, and then I ask him when he would like to go do them (usually it's just the grocery store, or the place to pay our bills), but at least that gives him the option of feeling like he's in control of when its going to be done, when actually I am the one in control because the bill will need to be paid in the week. He too can be disrespectful of me and look at me funny if I'm telling him something, so what I've done is if I get the look from him I immediately stop talking. Then I will say the same exact thing he does to me "your not interested in what I'm saying?"

Maybe the note thing will help, it does with me. I wish you luck.
I guess I can't speak for everyone..
but I did not have that difficult a time stopping. I had tried before, but I could always come up with excuses for myself to keep smoking. For you,it could be different. And, of course, I had the meds. I do hope you will quit, for your health's sake, and I wish you luck. I never meant to sound offensive.
Funny you should speak of this
My now deceased MIL raised some piggies and she named them. I could not go and eat a friend I had named and raised, would be like eating one of my kitties. You know the older I get the more vegetables get to looking better to me just because more appealing to me. Have you ever had any problems like anemia for not having meat in your diet?
Can't speak for Pugmom - but when I see () or J**B
I would much rather read Pugmom's posts than her hater's posts.  The poster above needs to learn how to spell.  No wonder she is so angry.  She is an MT that cannot spell or make a proper sentence. 
If it is the group I heard about on the news...

They are an extremely disturbed church group who protest at the funerals of soldiers who died in Iraq, but get this, not against the war, but against gay people.  Nutty right?  They protest and yell that the soldiers are dying because God is punishing America for being too accepting of gay people.  Very sick.  They do this at soldiers' funerals throughout the nation, regardless of if the dead soldier is straight or gay. 


I get a knot in my throat whenever I think about those poor grieving families, but Harley Davidson riders around the country have come together to form a solid line of riders between the families and the protestors.


A recently used solution against this group
was applied by Hells Angels. No joke.

The Hells Angels motorcycle group was nearby where a protest was being held and they showed up! Ran off every single one of the Westboro derelicts.

First time I've ever been in favor of Hells Angels.
Don't group all girls in that same generalization.
It is not fair. My DD as well as my nieces are all really good girls. I am not fooling myself. One niece is getting ready to leave for Liberty College becuase she wanted to attend a christian college. None of the girls dress unappropriately. They are all very good students and all but one are active in youth groups. The one that isn't has a job so that she can help out with her soon to be large college bill. Not all girls are out hunting down guys.
Oh, forgot to say females that are in a group
seem to have their periods synchronized. Just think, if all these girls got theirs at the same time, no pool for a week? Oh, I forgot, get an excuse.
I think you do want to join you're just to shy to say so - group hug? nm
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There is one from the 10 Minute Solutions group.
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I agree totally. This group could not
compare to the first. There is only 1 more group left. I personally liked Allison (the redhead), and Kris (the guy after her), and Adam. He has been 1 of my favorites from the beginning. I also wanted to like Kai and was disappointed with his performance.
Agree with last night's group
I wasn't wowed by anyone last night really. Obviously Lil was good, and I actually did like the one girl who had been brought back... can't remember her name. I didn't think any of the guys were that great. That kid who did That's Why They Call It The Blues... that was embarassing. I find it surprising that they passed up other people for some of them that they have in the 36. Anyone, I thought week 1 was much better and even thought last week was better than this group. As far as the format, I don't like it all that much either. However, I do remember that my Clay, still my favorite then and forever (lol), ended up on the show as a wildcard.
Speak to the director of financial aid
Ditto the advice on Voc Rehab.

You should be able to get food stamps *if* you qualify for work-study OR work at least 20 hours/week. I would appeal their denial ASAP. Ask for the caseworker's supervisor and say you want to appeal their decision. They should send you a letter with a "hearing" date on it.

Call and ask to speak with the Director of Financial Aid. Be persistent and keep asking for him. If you can't get through go to the Provost office or some higher up at the college. I've done it with a 18 month old in a stroller at my side! :)

One more thing - every single school I have ever attended had some sort of emergency loan for students. It's usually called a short-term loan or something like that. Also see if you can get $ on your ID card for the cafeteria. That can put that on the loan too.

The writing is on the wall, so to speak
You make a difference in the g'parents- your children are picking up on this. I had a similar thing going on with my son- my mother did all the loving, fun things he wanted- my father (they were divorced, each remarried) was strict, no fun to be around, hardworking but I believed in their being able to share and I did. Both are deceased now and I do not regret having him spend as much time with 1 as the other. Oh, BTW, one of my most enjoyable things as a child was when I spent time with my father and his wife- they had a small garden and I absolutely loved to dig up the potatoes- used to beg to get to do it. You should have a good talk with everyone and insist spending time with all- don’t let your feelings play into their hesitancy on going. Grandparents are not always right but she wants to have some time with them. Not all g'parents want to be bothered with kids, believe it or not.
Excuse me, I speak Jive.
I would love to see a clip of that part again!
Not judging honey, believe me, I speak...

my mind and you could tell if I was judging others. This place is teeming with unhappy, whining, complaining women (just look at some of the posts all over this site) and that is not a judgement, it is fact. As far as being in the same situation as others one day, if you read any of my posts you would see that I have been there, done that and changed my ways. Should something happen, we have learned to save money, have enough put away to last a year and not have to touch any retirement, etc. That took a lot of determination and hard work on our part and we are proud of it.


I am get a good chuckle out of some women who accuse other women of "living off their husbands" and "where would you be without his money". I can make my own money, but my husband doesn't tell me that i need to work and doesn't tell me how much I need to make. He is the provider in this family and has never once asked me to work harder, earn more or get a different job. Remember when men used to do that and our mother's stayed home and raised the family and didn't work? Are you jealous of your girl friends or family members that don't have to work or who live debt free or do you hold that judgement for those you do not know?


Enough of this for now. I'm sure someone will have something to bash me about later on...go ahead, it just shows how very immature some women can be.


You are so true when you speak of the furkids
I lost my older girl last January and she was born and died at my home- she was 18. My grown daughter still can hardly speak of her, gets all misty. I have 3 more but they never take the place of the one who is gone. Each is their own little separate kitty. I told my hubby never could run around, not enough time- got to see about the pets, feeding, watering, treats, it goes on and on all day.
you should speak to your spiritual advisor

Do you attend a church or other religious program?  If so, you really should speak to someone there about your situation.  I know several of my local churches offer to put together Christmas dinners for those who can't afford to and they've also given cash to them to buy for their families or help with their bills.  People are more generous than you might realize.


Do you have children and/or a significant other?  Depending on who you need to "shop" for, we may be able to offer nonmonetary suggestions that will make you feel good and the person you're giving the "gift" to. 


Things are always worse than they seem.  Hope your spirits are lifted soon.  Good will.


Take it easy! How many languages do you speak? ..sm
Give some respect to people who are bilingual and even trilingual.
MTing is probabaly the only thing you can do!
The OP complained only about the position of the month and day in the date, geez!
I am planning as we speak to move in the next . . .
1-2 years.  I have lived and traveled all over and have been in Georgia for almost 20 years.  I hate this backwards state!!  I am originally from Virginia and that's where I want to live out the rest of my life.  It is the best and truly God's country. 
Different parts of the country speak
differently--did you ever consider that. I am from the South and am always having something said about the way I say certain words. You need to calm down a little.
You hit the nail on the head, so to speak
When I read your first line, I was going to post about the swollen/sore breasts. That was definitely what clued me in. I think it actually started before the first missed period with me.

Good luck! I really hope it's your time!
First, go to Alanon. Second, maybe speak to a counselor sm
about your feelings. If he truly does change, is there anything that would make the marriage worth salvaging?
Just got a foster dog from a local rescue group
Very sweet, but has a bad cough that's been going on for over a week. I've been asking the rescue group if I can take him in to the vet, but they keep saying no. I don't have a job, so I don't have the money to do it myself (I do have the time). I'm certain the rescue group is concerned about money, but this seems unfair to me and the dog. For all I know he could have any number of things wrong. They are telling me it's a cold, and to just wait until he's better before he goes in to be neutered.

What's the right thing to do? What should I tell the group's organizer?

Suggestions?

Thanks.

They are a largely Hispanic group though. My brother
was homeless at one point and got woken up with one chopping him up with a machete, their signature weapon. They are an extremely dangerous gang. We moved way out to get as far as we could from that stuff in a great part of town and I am seeing tags already from them.

Somehow my brother lived. He even managed to keep his arm they almost chopped off. We think it was part of an initiation.