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To mom upset over Santa revelation...did you confront her?

Posted By: what happened with the teacher? on 2006-12-17
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I would confront him
and first of all determine whether it is computers only or if anything has gone further.

In the meantime I would find a counselor for yourself and I would demand that he seek counseling for himself as well go to couple's counseling with you if you are going to stay with him (but only if you want to stay with him- you may not want to).

If he refuses, then you need to get out of there. Without some kind of intervention this is a good prediction of your life with him.
You have to confront him. Your health and well being are most important.
I believe people know they are gay from a young age. Some might be confused about it, but, by adulthood, they know they are gay. I cannot imagine a straight guy watching gay porn or, worse yet, seeking gay escorts. He's gay.

What!!!! No Santa?
Not believe in Santa Claus! You might as well not believe in fairies. You might get your papa to hire men to watch in all the chimneys on Christmas eve to catch Santa Claus, but even if you did not see Santa Claus coming down, what would that prove? Nobody sees Santa Claus, but that is no sign that there is no Santa Claus. The most real things in the world are those that neither children nor men can see. Did you ever see fairies dancing on the lawn? Of course not, but that's no proof that they are not there. Nobody can conceive or imagine all the wonders there are unseen and unseeable in the world.

No Santa Claus?Thank God he lives and lives forever. A thousand years from now, Virginia, nay 10 times 10,000 years from now, he will continue to make glad the heart of childhood.







Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!!




Santa
You don't give any details about this came about. Did someone in the class ask the teacher if Santa Claus was real? If so, she/he would not want to lie to the class, since that would undermine their trust in her/him.

If you have a third grader who still believes in Santa, you must have wrapped them in bubble wrap for the past 2 years. It is a very rare child who believes beyond Kindergarten or First Grade - usually their older siblings or the neighor kid tells them "the truth."

BTW, I think the "truth" about Santa is that he is real - he's a symbol of the Christmas Spirit and that survives despite all the cynicism, hatred, intolerance and fear in the world.
santa
I must admit even before my brother and sister told me at age 8 I was beginning to have doubts and I did not want to say anything because I thought I would not get a lot of gifts but it was still fun believing there was the possibilty also that there could be a santa!  Someone breaks your heart sooner or later.
Bad Santa...
"I saw you at another mall.  Well, I'm happy for you.  If you really are Santa, you could do magic.  Wanna see some magic? OK, let's watch you disappear!"


You don't believe in Santa?
Santa is the "spirit" of Christmas.  I can't imagine not believe there is a Santa Clause, and I'm 37.  Oh my goodness, honey, you're won't get anything for Christmas if you don't believe in Santa.... 
Santa
My DD is going on 10 and DS is 6. They believe in Santa. My daughter has questioned and I explained it this way - There was a real Santa, and that whole story and that he brings the presents to those that "believe", but the second you say out loud "into the air" that you don't believe , we (meaning mom and dad) have to start bringing the presents...and I can't afford that...:)

So she still believes but we also get gifts from "Mom and Dad" so there are also things under the tree from us as well as Santa (who by the way does not wrap, but that's another discussion altogether!)

By the way, in our house Santa, the tooth fairy, Jesus, and God all know each other and communicate with each other, as in God sees everything and knows if you are "being bad" and let's Santa know, etc...They are not to keen on the whole Easter Bunny thing though...
Santa and EB and TF
I have a friend who promised she would never lie to her kids, and so she was honest from the start about Santa and the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy, but also explained to them that alot of their friends believe in them, so asked her kids not to ruin it for them.

In our house, our kids believe in the "idea" of Santa and the Easter Bunny but were confused about why we would see so many Santas in every store. I told them that Santa could not physically be in every place at once, so we all have Christmas Spirit, which we use in different ways to help Santa. So some of us dress up like Santa, some of us deliver presents to needy kids, that kind of thing. At 5 and 6, they really seemed to grasp that and understand.
I am so upset...

Just need to express a little;


On my way home from a nice lunch with my DH, I saw a horrible car accident where a teen girl T-boned a car and killed the driver of the car.  I am beside myself with emotion right now. The poor girl flipped out when she learned that the other driver was dead, literally running across 4 lanes of traffic and collapsing in a fastfood restaurant parking lot.  My heart is breaking still for her as well as the other driver's family and friends. 


I have a teen daugther chomping at the bit to get her license and I DONT WANT HER TO...just because of stuff like this. 


Please remember these families in your prayers.  This young girl has a long, hard road ahead of her I'm sure...not to mention the other driver's family...


I am so upset

Vehicles are not necessary or permitted at U.S. Naval Academy where son went until beginning of senior year.  Daughter went to self-contained college campus in Maryland.  Family member helped w/transportaiton when necessary.  Raised 5 children.  Shelter, food, clothing necessary expenses, vehicles & exhorbitant insurance for teens not necessary.  Check the stats on young drivers ages 16-25.  Then decide if you want your your teen driving.  It helps a lot if they pay their own way or at least part.  Def driving helps some.  Raised 5 children.  Lot of parents want the kids to drive so they don't have to be bothered.


I would be VERY upset...
and I'd let her know it too...whatta scrooge!  Like the other poster, I'd go to the principal about this.  She way overstepped her boundaries on this one.  I am so sorry this happened right here at the holidays.  Hope y'all enjoy Christmas anyway! 
does this upset you? then do something about it.
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Like I'm not upset enough. . LOL

Hey everyone, HELP me! I had a bat hanging on the edge of my sofa when I came down from my break at 12:30 p.m. to go to the mall for my iced tea. I called the guy down in the apartment downstairs and he came up and let's just say took care of it. I was in tears! Don't like anything to be hurt, but I floze out about such things. I have bad eyes, and when I came down the steps I thought, what's that black sock doing on the side of my sofa. Then I remembered socks don't have wings! Beam me up! I'm still upset! LOL!!!   This past week has been the week from


H   E   double hockey sticks!!!!!   I need an Ativan the size of a hub cap!   Just wanted all my MTs to know if could get worse. . .  IT JUST DID.


 


The guy who helped me is so tall he kinda looks like Herman Munster without the bolt, which is scary enough!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is nice, though and thank goodness he was there. Have a good day, guys! 


Yes, and she was VERY UPSET
about what?? Cause she got caught? DUH. Man o Man. I cannot understand this at all. Well she should be going to jail like Paris did but for longer. Anyone of us in this same situation would still be in jail right now and would be going to jail for years with the drug possession charges from now and in May. Cannot wait for this to go to trial.
You have every right to be upset
but what is done is done and the best thing to do would be to take her to a GYN, get her on birth control, talk openly about safer sex practice and you can still let her know your disappointment but don't dwell on it. She may feel he is the "one" for her, but if he truly is a loser, she will figure that out in time, especially with the help of her friends...peer pressure is what gets them into the situation in the first place. I don't think you sound controlling...you just sound very disappointed for your daughter. Good luck.
Upset
I'm upset and never thought about that.....I just want my kids to be happy.....but he seems to think that the grass is greener on the other side, but once he finds out that it is not....he will back....but in the meantime....he will not have a key to my house to come and go as he pleases.....thanks for responding....
I for one do not see why others get so upset by
screaming and yelling in every situation. I understand the basic concept and the I-net rules and stuff, but honestly one or two words capped in a paragraph IMO hardly consistute yelling and screaming. I took it more as a way to stress a word or phase. Everyone needs to chill a little I think, including the OP.
Why are you getting so upset?
You stated a fact and apparently do not wish to hear what others are saying about how credit plays a big part in job situations (your credit probably pulled on a job before to check you out) and other parts of life. The bank does not have a part in your son's lack of money and being unable to pay his bills. Those are their rules and why you should continue to blast others for telling it like it is, I don’t know.
Why am I so upset?

Because you posters are equating being unemployed with being a thief or an embezzler.  You'd be upset too if people called your son a thief.


I have never come across the problem with checking credit because my husband's and mine has always been excellent.  I guess you learn something new every day, about life and about people who can be so vile while hiding behind a computer.


I would also be upset,
and I don't think you are being selfish at all. I have no advice or suggestions. I just wanted to let you know that I think you have every reason to be upset. With blessing across the miles, I pray for you. :)
You have every right to be upset....sm
And yes that has happened to me. Not all the time but it has. I have an 11 year old son and last year he did not wish me happy mothers day and didn't want anyone to take him to get me a card or anything. But when fathers day comes he always tells his dad happy fathers day and asks me to take him to buy him a gift. Yes, it hurts my feelings but I know my son worships his dad. I'm just mama. BUT this year, my son was different. He asks my mom to help him get me a gift and she did. He told me happy mothers day so I was happy. My husband wished me HMD but didn't get a card or nothing.
Yes, it hurts my feelings and I let my husband know it did but oh well. My husband can be a real a-- sometimes and then again he can be the nices guy ever. He has 2 different personalities.
Believing in Santa
I'm not sure how old I was, but my 12 year old realized ther was no Santa when she was 10. I'm not sure how she actually found out, but I know a year before that she noticed the same wrapping paper that Santa used that I also used (I forgot and wrapped the gifts the same). She also said she knew no one could bring toys to everyone in the world in one night (too smart for her own good). I think most children find out through other older childen either in school or in the neighborhood. It didn't seem to effect her at all. I told her that if she ever tells her 3 year old sister before she can figure it out for herself (hopefully she'll be 10), that I won't buy her any more presents. LOL.
Dear Santa....

Dear Santa,


I've been a good mom all year. I've fed, cleaned and cuddled my children on demand, visited the doctor's office more than my doctor, sold sixty-two cases of candy bars to raise money to plant a shade tree on the school playground. I was hoping you could spread my list out over several Christmases, since I had to write this letter with my son's red crayon, on the back of a receipt in the laundry room between cycles, and who knows when I'll find anymore free time in the next 18 years.


Here are my Christmas wishes:


I'd like a pair of legs that don't ache (in any color, except purple, which I already have) and arms that don't hurt or flap in the breeze; but are strong enough to pull my screaming child out of the candy aisle in the grocery store.


I'd also like a waist, since I lost mine somewhere in the seventh month of my last pregnancy.


If you're hauling big ticket items this year I'd like fingerprint resistant windows and a radio that only plays adult music; a television that doesn't broadcast any programs containing talking animals; and a refrigerator with a secret compartment behind the crisper where I can hide to talk on the phone.


On the practical side, I could use a talking doll that says, "Yes, Mommy" to boost my parental confidence, along with two kids who don't fight and three pairs of jeans that will zip all the way up without the use of power tools.


I could also use a recording of Tibetan monks chanting "Don't eat in the living room" and "Take your hands off your brother," because my voice seems to be just out of my children's hearing range and can only be heard by the dog.


If it's too late to find any of these products, I'd settle for enough time to brush my teeth and comb my hair in the same morning , or the luxury of eating food warmer than room temperature without it being served in a Styrofoam container.


If you don't mind, I could also use a few Christmas miracles to brighten the holiday season. Would it be too much trouble to declare ketchup a vegetable? It will clear my conscience immensely. It would be helpful if you could coerce my children to help around the house without demanding payment as if they were the bosses of an organized crime family.


Well, Santa, the buzzer on the dryer is ringing and my son saw my feet under the laundry room door. I think he wants his crayon back.


Have a safe trip and remember to leave your wet boots by the door and come in and dry off so you don't catch cold.


Help yourself to cookies on the table but don't eat too many or leave crumbs on the carpet.


Yours Always, MOM...!


P.S. One more thing...you can cancel all my reques ts if you can keep my children young enough to believe in Santa.


AMEN to that


Dear Santa:
Dear Santa:

I rarely ask for much. This year is no exception. I don't need diamond earrings, handy slicer-dicers or comfy slippers. I only want one little thing, and I want it deeply.

I want to slap Martha Stewart. Now, hear me out, Santa. I won't scar her or draw blood or anything. Just one good smack, right across her smug little cheek. I get all cozy inside just thinking about it. Don't grant this wish just for me, do it for thousands of women across the country. Through sheer vicarious satisfaction, you'll be giving a gift to us all. Those of us leading average, garden variety lives aren't concerned with gracious living. We feel pretty good about ourselves if our paper plates match when we stack them on the counter, buffet-style for dinner. We're tired of Martha showing us how to make centerpieces from hollyhock dipped in 18-carat gold. We're plumb out of liquid gold. Unless it's of the furniture polish variety. We can't whip up Martha's creamy holiday sauce, spiced with turmeric. Most of us can't even say turmeric, let alone figure out what to do with it.

OK, Santa, maybe you think I'm being a little harsh. But I'll bet with all the holiday rush you didn't catch that interview with Martha in last week's USA Weekend. I'm surprised there was enough room on the page for her ego. We discovered that not only does Martha avoid take-out pizza (she's only ordered it once), she refuses to eat it cold (No cold pizza? Is Martha Stewart living?) When it was pointed out that she could microwave it, she replied, "I don't have a microwave." The reporter, Jeffrey Zaslow, noted that she said this "in a tone that suggests you shouldn't either." Well, lah-dee-dah. Imagine that, Santa! That lovely microwave you brought me years ago, in which I've learned to make complicated dishes like popcorn and hot chocolate, has been declared undesirable by Queen Martha. What next? The coffee maker? In the article, we learned that Martha has 40 sets of dishes adorning an entire wall in her home. Forty sets. Can you spell "overkill"? And neatly put away, no less. If my dishes make it to the dishwasher that qualifies as "put away" in my house! Martha tells us she's already making homemade holiday gifts for friends. "Last year, I made amazing silk-lined scarves for everyone," she boasts. Not just scarves mind you. Amazing scarves. Martha's obviously not shy about giving herself a little pat on the back. In fact, she does so with such frequency that one has to wonder if her back is black and blue. She goes on to tell us that "homemaking is glamour for the 90s," and says her most glamorous friends are "interested in stain removal, how to iron a monogram, and how to fold a towel." I have one piece of advice, Martha: "Get new friends." Glamorous friends fly to Paris on a whim. They drift past the Greek Islands on yachts, sipping champagne from crystal goblets. They step out for the evening in shimmering satin gowns, whisked away by tuxedoed chauffeurs. They do not spend their days pondering the finer art of toilet bowl sanitation. Zaslow notes that Martha was named one of America's 25 most influential people by Time magazine (nosing out Mother Theresa, Madeline Allbright and Maya Angelou, no doubt). The proof of Martha's influence: after she bought white-fleshed peaches in the supermarket, Martha says, "People saw me buy them. In an instant, they were all gone." I hope Martha never decides to jump off a bridge. A guest in Martha's home told Zaslow how Martha gets up early to rollerblade with her dogs to pick fresh wild blackberries for breakfast. This confirms what I've suspected about Martha all along: She's obviously got too much time on her hands. Teaching the dogs to rollerblade. What a show off. If you think the dogs are spoiled, listen to how Martha treats her friends: She gave one friend all 272 books from the Knopf Everyman Library. It didn't cost much. Pocket change, really.

Was it Santa? or the excitement
to all the wonderful gifts?  I agree with the above poster.  I feel it is unnecessary to lie to the children and set them up for such pain.  To hear a parent say "I had to tell her the truth" is jarring when she is speaking of her very own child.
santa...details...
this was during "reading". she read Rudolph to teh class. her choice. she brought it up. they read adn then they started asking questions, kids were disagreeing about it, arguing..and so she asked for a show of hands on the certain parts that she chose from teh story that " could happen" and "could never happen"...fact and fiction stuff. she totally started it.
regarding santa message below:

im the one who started the santa thing.  tonight is our christmas program, can someone who is really quick whitted give me like a one to two line statement or question for her to let her know what kind of mistake she has made? that its not something funny, or to blow off.. 


without causing too big of a scene...and not affending bystanders.


im sure there is someone on here who could just cut her down with their words..and really make her step back and take a good hard look at herself....if its YOU...i need your expertise in the subject.


Santa Clara, CA
Another city also in the Bay Area. I am about a half an hour from Santa Cruz (beach), beautiful weather, very temperate summers with cool evenings, and close enough to go to SF by car or train to explore the city.
Santa Fe, NM and Tucson, AZ....
Love NYC, Florida, Massachusetts, CT, NH, VT......too!!!
About Christmas and Santa

Do any of you feel weird about teaching your children there is a Santa Claus.  My parents did not teach us that, but when I had kids, I did (because it just seemed like it would be more fun for them).  When they found out it wasn't real, they were pretty upset.


Now, that I am older, I think it is kind of an odd thing to do.  It doesn't really seem like it's a good thing for children to realize their parents (who are the most trusted and influential people in children's lives) lied to them ... even if it was in the name of fun and excitment. 


What are your thoughts on this?  Most children totally believe it (when taught) ... just as children tend to believe whatever religious version they are taught. 


About Jesus, God, and Santa
If you truly believe in God, I am wondering if you feel your children will lose faith once they realize you have been spoofing about Santa. ?

I am santa claus
My parents ALWAYS (even when they knew we didn't believe anymore) were "santa" They would wait until we were asleep to put out the presents. It was SO fun. I remember being little and trying to stay up to see "him". We even once SWORE we saw reindeer hoof prints on our roof. My husband grew up TOTALLY different. His mom still to this day won't even buy wrapping paper with santa on it. So you know what I do? I buy him extra presents and put them under the tree when HE is asleep.

I think it is all just fun. I am not mad at my parents for tricking me. I had a great time with it. And I hope my kids do too.
Bah humbug on Santa? No way!
When kids get on the school bus or talk in the cafeteria, what would happen? Perhaps group mentality which we learn in Psych 4, is what you are thinking,  but what about going along to get along? For Pete's sake, don't "p" double  ee on their parade. Kids know - they believe in a Sants, i.e., St. Nick, i.e., blue and white stuff for 8 days for the Jewish kids. So what -- for goodness sake, let the kid ge a kid! Play - toys - Chris Kringle - whatever! Don't try to get your kid to be in MENSA, just for the sake of being "above" it all. Get real! Don't be an elitist just to be right. I am all for kids believing there is something else besides doom and gloom. Let them be happy, enough bad news, already. What are you going to gain except self-rightousiness and being above the rest. No kid is going to be angry that they got a gift from "Santa". He is not Satan - he is S A N T A. Got your letters crossed.
there's nothing more magical than being Santa when
the little one goes to sleep -- arranging all the presents, filling the stocking, taking that one bite out of the cookie, and, of course, leaving him a note from Santa saying how he's always on the nice list.  just magical.  i'm here all alone and it always brings tears to my eyes creating this magical experience for him. 
No, it's okay! I wasn't upset or anything,
just was confused when I couldn't find it. I wanted to post all that so hopefully anyone having these problems could maybe try the same thing.

Firefox is letting me into every site I use though, so crossing my fingers it continues.

Thanks for the tip about the degfrag. I haven't done it and will. :)
Not upset here. Just said I thought
it was RUDE and I could care less if he is or isn't gay. I do not care if it was planned ahead of time or not.

I turn this show on for the talent aspect, but it is becoming less and less of the American Idol show but more about a popularity contest, putting people down, etc, etc. It is all about RATINGS and frankly the whole show is becoming a big JOKE. JUDGES and all
Well, I think she might be upset enough to stroke out or something (sm)
That's good enough for me!
I know you are upset about this and it is your decision
true enough. I probably would not like a 16-year-old to have the keys either. First of all, unless living there, lots are not responsible enough or use good logic but I was hurt, I was grown and could be trusted then and now and I would let me children have, but they are grown.
Me too!! I was so upset when I thought
he was demoted by that day rat. (sorry day shift people). I work over night shift and thoroughly love the comments about different shifts. Man that show is good. We just went on vacation with the kids to the Star Trek Museum (yes we are nerds)and stayed at the Hilton. We love the opening every time CSI Vegas comes on. We try to figure out where the hotel is and all the different things are. LOL. We are truly ill here. We flip between CSI and 2 Law and Orders every evening, and on Saturdays watch the tapes.
More upset with male, although I see your SM
point. If male, would be more about him. My ex did cheat on me for years. I felt deceived, but would have felt even more so if he cheated with men and probably scared silly about disease, which, I know, could have been passed on by women.

Wish people didn't have affairs and if they want a divorce, just get one and then date whomever you want. Yes, I am very naive.
Maybe you did sound upset. .
As you said, you were talking to your aunt on the phone who is dying of cancer and is in hospice. Are you sure you didn't sound upset or irritated with your daughter? At least she cares.
Should I be upset? My mother-in-law......sm
has been taking my 9-month-old daughter around the farm on the 4-wheeler.  The guys are coming and going with the machinery, it's noisy, and she's driving my daughter around all of that.  Am I overreacting, or do I have a right to be upset?   
First off, I was very upset when I wrote

the original post.  Sending my son to a boys' home is obviously a last resort.  I don't mean an orphanage or foster care.  I mean a facility that can help to retrain him if I can't.  I love my son very much.  I would rather suffer the pains and guilt of having to send him to a reformity, then to watch him grow up into someone who would hurt someone else and ruin the rest of his life.  I love all of my children equally. 


Secondly, when I took my child to the child psychologist, I had several visits with him first to see if there was something I was doing wrong.  I continued to attend each session with my child, including private sessions for myself after his meeting with my son. 


Thirdly, your comments were not helpful, just nasty, and that's not the kind of help I was looking for.  Anyone who's ever been in this situation already feels inadequate as a parent and doesn't need someone else to slam them.  Thanks for taking the time out of your busy day to do just that.


About my mom, from post below - so upset! sm

My daughter's friend's mom just informed me that my mother told her daughter (and mine) that she had been chased by a demon and had seen demons and ghosts. When my daughter told my mom she didn't believe her, my mother took out a Bible and swore on the Bible that it was true.  She has the little girl so scared she won't sleep in her own bed and won't go to the bathroom by herself.  I called my mom and asked her why she would do this.  She said it was the girls fault because they didn't believe her so she had to swear on the Bible to prove it to them.  I asked her if while she was saying all these things, she was unaware of all the times I have asked her not to say these types of things, and if she really did not know she was saying something I wouldn't want her to say.  She said she guessed she did know and that maybe she shouldn't come to my house anymore if she is going to upset people (patheticically) so I said if she can't honor my requests as the mother in this house then I guess she shouldn't come back.  I just feel so bad though, so bad.


When did you stop believing is Santa?
When did you stop believing is Santa?

If you have kids old enough, when did they stop believing?

How did you/your kids find out?

How did you/they react to the truth?

If kids don't find out on their own, what age do you think they should be told?

I think as Christians we can use Santa Claus

As a witness if we want to.  I feel that Santa is a fun part of Christmas but of course we should not forget the REAL reason for the season.  We can give to others to show the love of Christ, Him giving His life for us.  It is all about how you look at it and show it to others.  God Bless you all and have a Blessed Christmas :) 


P.S.  A very good way to witness is through WorldVision.  They have a wonderful gift catalog that I used for Christmas presents.  You can purchase a wheelchair for a child in another country, childcare for orphans, etc. 


Santa Rosa, California

Back in the mid to late 80's - I don't know what it's like now.


Picture this: vineyards, apple orchards, redwood forests, ocean 15 minutes away, average temperature 70-75 degrees year round.........oh, I miss it!!!


Oh darn, Bear just ate Santa
right off the tree. I'm not actually a big fan of Santa decorations, but this was one of a set of cute homemade-looking, brightly painted flat ornaments that looked like they were made from bread dough or something. I don't know exactly what they were made of, but it doesn't look like he swallowed much. He's such a puppy.
Awww...Santa's Helper!
He is so cute! I love dogs!
Can I tell you how good santa (or should I say God) was to me this year? sm

I received many gift cards and gifts.  I received the gift of unconditional love from my children.  I received the gift of friendship this year from my best friend who cries when I cry and will keep my secrets with her until the day she dies.  My mom is in my life now and is spoiling me ROTTEN.  She came into some money and has used a lot of it on my family - making up for lost time as we did not get along well while I was growing up and then I moved away. 


All of these are great, great gifts. I was also given the gift of health.  I was the worried mom from a few weeks ago who was asking about abnormal mammograms and lumps.  I am 33 years old.  Today, I nervously received a digital mammography (my first digital one). My doctor went ahead and scheduled me for an ultrasound too this time (I've had both already). After the mammogram this morning I was waiting to head to ultrasound when the tech came in and said the films look great and no need for ultrasound. God is soo good.  Of course, she said my doc will receive the formal report in about a week, but still. Isn't that awesome news?


The most ironic thing about all of this? I am not deserving of any of it. None of it. I know there are so many others who are in such pain this year and for that I am truly, truly sorry. May you find peace, health, happiness, and a close relationship with God this year. I look forward to the coming year. If you don't have God or find Him, may you have love in abundance this year. All of you.