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We're out-of-step, I think. Tree up just before Christmas.

Posted By: sm on 2007-11-13
In Reply to: Do you put up your Christmas tree at Thanksgiving for guests/yourself - or later into December? nm PThru

I grew up in a large Italian immigrant community many years ago. (Not telling exactly HOW many years! :)

I loved the old customs, and that's what I stick to. In the "old country" it was about the nativity display in the house, not so much the tree. But we did have a tree that went up usually on Christmas Eve, and it came down on "Little Christmas", in January, on the Feast of the Epiphany. Leading up to Christmas, we celebrate advent and keep an advent wreath on the main table and light candles each night. We still get a real tree, and we put it up just a few days before Christmas, but it stays bare until Christmas Eve. On that night, we have a big meal which includes seven seafood dishes, then decorate the tree, go to church, and come back and eat some more. I love the food!

Sometimes it's really hard to put everything off, because it just seems that decorations go up right after Thanksgiving, and come down the day after Christmas (which is my birthday, by the way.) But I like doing just what I did with my family when I was growing up.


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When do you buy your Christmas Tree? sm

What kind do you get and how tall do you get?  We redid our living room over the summer and since then, at least once a month, I've walked around asking where we are going to put our tree (a big boxed tree that is a pain in the rear to put together and sheds about as many pine needles as a real one).  I've decided (yesterday - haven't approached DH yet) that I'd like to try one of those tall skinny ones so I think that buying a real one this year would be better to try out before making the investment in a fake one that I might not care for. 


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Christmas Tree
Real and anywhere from 8-1/2 to 12 feet tall depending on where we put it in our family room. It's up and decorated since Saturday.
prelit Christmas tree
have had mine for three years - Kmart brand and I love it.
Christmas Tree & Decorations

We always try to have the tree lit up and the decorations out on display by Thanksgiving day. I think having a fake tree makes that possible.


Do you set a deadline to have the tree up and decorated by Thanksgiving week? If not, when do you try to have it finished?


My feeling is if you step outside the border, you're
I don't want my tax dollars spent in some rescue or investigation because you went to a country you didn't have to and that was deemed dangerous.

Why would you even ask here? Why not contact the State Department about it?

Yes, innocent tourists are killed. Are they prime targets? Haven't been in the past but in order to get ahead, put nothing past them.

I just don't see spending money to rescue anyone or trying to investigate a disappearance, etc. We have enough problems here. You're on your own.


Do you put up your Christmas tree at Thanksgiving for guests/yourself
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A crazy person and Christmas tree magic....

We just don't do a christmas tree because it's just my husband and I.  However, when I visited my brother a couple of years back, he had a real Christmas tree he cut down from his own property.  That thing smelled just magical.  His wife and kids decorated it with the simplest of ornaments, colored lights, popcorn and cranberry garland, a red tree skirt, and those awesome silver "icicles" that captured the light light diamonds. 


Well, I saw that tree and suddenly I was 6 again.  I got down on the floor, flipped over onto my back, and scooted under that tree right up to the stump and stared up.  Everyone thought I was nuts but it was just...magical.  Next thing I know, my two nephews (almost teenagers) joined me and were also struck silent.  They had never done that before!  My brother and his wife joined in on the weirdness and said they had never looked at their tree from the floor, as if they were a kid again.


It's such a simple thing and I couldn't believe that they never did that!  Time just stops when you look up through the boughs of your Christmas tree, with all the decorations and sparklies, and all your troubles are washed away so long as you stay under there looking up. 


So, yeah, if you have a tree, try that.  The spirit will come back to you--I promise!  If not, get a glass and fill it 1/4 of the way with egg nog, then backfill with 3/4 spiced rum and pound it down your gullet--in about 10 minutes the magic will be found. 
 


POLL: Real or artificial Christmas tree in your house?

Two years ago we bought an artificial Christmas tree and we absolutely love it.  We finally got tired of paying upwards of $100 for a dead tree that was dried out in two weeks.  We got a good deal on ours and I have to say we have really enjoyed it. It's 10 feet tall which we could never afford to buy a 10 footer every year. I do miss the nice smell of a real tree, though. We put it up today...that's another nice thing: you can put it up early and not worry about it drying out before Christmas.


Schefflera/umbrella tree/ octopus tree
are deadly to cats/kittens as well.
Fake tree or real tree? Big or small?...sm

How about one of those old Evergleam aluminum trees with a color wheel?  Wish mommy hadn't gotten rid of ours, darn it. 


Copy and paste this link into your browser and enjoy!  Cat


http://www.oldchristmaslights.com/beyond_the_50s.htm

 


What are people supposed to call Christmas Eve and Christmas Day now?? (nm)
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FBI would not step-in sm
without justifiable cause, you wouldn't think...  oh the gossip.....  I worked with a lady that her husband was molesting the grandchildren, and he served like 20 years.  She was in denial, and when he got out she took him back, and there were more grandchildren by then.  What a world we live in! 
yes, that is my (our)next step.
we have 14 little kids from ages 5 to 9 in 6 different houses on my street. (2 are mine). when we bought this house 6 years ago, right before my second child was born, we were the only family with kids....this has become too too too much.
It's a serious step, but.... (sm)
if you are firmly committed to the animal it's sometimes for the best for peaceful coexistence. I had to have my first cat declawed at my mother's insistence (I still lived at home). I took a day off work and babied him as he recovered from this major surgery. After I was married, our second cat we had to have done because she couldn't understand why the other cat could scratch everything and she couldn't! I couldn't get her to stick with the scratching post, of course! We had those two for many years and after the first one died, we got a kitten, and since the second cat was never much of a "scratcher," he was easier to train and is intact. The second cat later passed away of old age and we adopted an older cat who seems to like my couch, but given that he is an escape artist, I've decided I have to live with it in case he gets out.

Another option is those little rubber caps that they have in the pet store that glue onto the claws; sometimes they can buy you some time while you work on training.

Good luck!
Step up
You need to step up here and be the parent. . Tell your husband. . Do not let your child bully/scare you into allowing her to continue this behavior. . Make her stick to your rules.. When she is staying with approved friends, call the parents and make sure she is there. . Where would she go if she left home? I doubt there is anywhere else she would be treated as well or have things as nice as she does in her own home with her loving parents. . She is a smart girl and will realize that - she is just playing you.. It is your duty to raise her in the way YOU konw is right.
Or if you step on a crack
you break your mother's back. To this day I have an OCD thing where I can't step on cracks. I wonder if this is why.
Well you just described my Step-mom, even though I love her. nm
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To: Think you should step back sm
Nah, you are not worth a reply! You get back what you put in...  nothing!!!! Zilch - Hey, next time step up -- leave a REAL NAME!!! Coward!
HA! Me too. My son is using my step machine
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She has a step-father who can be

somewhat of a tyrant.  I hope he is not the cause. 


Well, Step-One: Get it appraised by an outside
on TODAY's market, which in most areas is anywhere from 40%-50% lower than it would've appraised for 3 years ago, when home values were obscenely inflated.

Then see about the loan at the current appraisal rate, NOT what it was worth 3 years ago. Maybe you'll have better luck that way.
Friend or not, I would shy away from having the house appraised by someone who is a friend of the current owner's. That would be a conflict of interest that's better steered clear of.

Good luck!
Personally, I do not see this as a step backwards--sm
as MOST of the women seeking abortion are children themselves and only want to rid themselves of a situation they created, being oblivious and not wanting to face any consequences of..getting pregnant. In other words, they want to be able to have sex without paying any price for that, i.e. having a baby. A lot of these *children* seeking abortion should be made to see that what they are seeking to terminate is human life and if that child were born, it would be considered murder. This human life is not a *tumor* or *cyst* that must be excised to save ones own life, but is a human life all its own. Viewing an ultrasound of that baby prior to having an abortion may deter some *children* from going through with that procedure. Other than the *forcing* aspect of it, I really think it would eliminate a lot of needless abortions. More strenuous parental control on these *children* having sex in the first place would be a better alternative. JMO
Still, one needs to step back and be objective
This kid came to the US at age 8, probably not speaking English. His parents probably did not speak English, so he has to learn English at school. He was no surrounding by a Korean community. He was put in the middle of an English speaking neighborhood. Info coming out about his parents certainly seem that they were also loaners, so to speak, without a support system. Can you just imagine what this kid felt? If his parents have no real friends, they speak Korean, he is supposed to speak English and he, according to others, had no real friends, never socialized. So, before someone says this had nothing to do with where he came from, we have to think in this case it may had.

When a child that age is taken from his community (and he does have friends at that point), without a good support system around him, they do not flourish. The kids that had to be uprooted at that age with hurricane Katrina found themselves in other schools, other communities, no one they know. My daughter taught several of those children and I can say that they really do have resentment, bitterness, withdrawn, scared, isolated, and it comes out. Many of their parents are not coping, so how do they cope? This kid went all through school not fittng in. With that hateful play of a child killing his stepfather, I can't help but wonder if he lived with his father or stepfather, and if he didn't feel all these things after being taken from his homeland. He lived in an affluent area, which is far different than he lived in. If he never fit in, and not knowing his home life, one could open their minds to how he finally cracked.
Your husband needs to step up to the plate, no one else can do it!!
He needs to do it at the next opportunity. You teach people how to treat you. His silence speaks volumes to them. I feel for you. Went through something a little like this with my MIL for YEARS. She had nothing against me, just the fact that her dear son had married anyone. He finally told her to watch what she said to me or to anyone else about me because word was getting back to me or he would have no contact with her. She turned overnight into the best friend I have ever had. I have never heard her saying another bad word about me. Your husband needs to put these people on *notice* and NOW. Best of luck to you.
How wonderful to know someone like your step-uncle!
Have a great weekend with your family!
There are 6 of us, 3 boys and 3 girls, some of us are even step
We all get along fairly well actually, its some of the sistes-in-law and brothers-in-law that we cannot stand ! LOL. Thankfully, (not to be mean), but everyone, except 1 is divorced from the ones we couldnt stand and now they have found others that we get along with. My one brother is still single after his divorce.

We used to kid around "what is wrong with so-and-so? - Oh yeah, they are not like us!!"

Step up and be the parent! If he decides he wants
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Why a mini-strike? Keep it up and they will step up
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Mine is to step away from the table....LOL!
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My step-mother was with my little brother
He was from her first marriage but my dad adopted him when he was 5. It didn't really get bad until he started junior high. She went to the shcool every year and sat down with the guidance counselor and made up his schedule. She did this all the way through high school. When he started college she wanted to go with him to sign up for his classes. I told her how embarrassing that would be for him but she said other people would just think she is an older student waiting to register. Since he was going to a local college and there would definitely be several people there that knew him as well as her we were able to talk him out of it. When he started medical school she went with him to find an apartment. Upon return she described the furnished apartment to me to a T, although she couldn't remember my dog's name LOL!. Needless to say his first wife didn't like her....but we didn't like the wife either. He current wife doesn't like her either but at the same time both times my brother married very controlling women, just like his mom. I will say this, she has gotten much much better. Thank goodness, he is now 34 and lives 8 hours away.
Step-grandchildren advice anyone?

My son and DIL have dated since my step-granddaughter was 6 months old.  They would be together, break up, get back together....you get the picture.  Whenever they would break up, DIL would come and get any pictures I had of my step-granddaughter because "I would just throw them away."  I have completely stayed out of the situation between my son and DIL because I knew they would be back together in a couple of weeks.  At first, I was VERY attached to my now step-granddaughter.  I have evidently built up a wall now and I am having a very hard time being a "real" grandma to her.  I feel so guilty about this but just can't seem to become attached to her.  I guess I've built up some walls in fear that she will be taken away again like she had been so many times before.  I know it isn't her fault.  By the way, she is 8 now and they have been married for 4 years.  Anyhow, they are trying to have a baby and I am so excited...but feel horribly guilty because of it.  I just know in my heart that this baby will always be my grandchild.  By the way, DIL's parents are divorced and they all spoil my granddaughter like it is a competition.  She has every toy imaginable.  I guess my question is, how do I get over it and really be a grandma to her?


Am I the Wicked Step-Mother?

I know I don't post here much but I do read and feel you are all friends. I offer prayers for those that request them and feel for those with troubles.


I would like to know what you think about my latest dilemma. I came home from town today to find a phone call from my step-daughter, age 43. She has my cell phone number but for some reason she won't call me on it. Anyway I called her back and as usual she wants money, $500. I have lent her money in the past with the promise to pay back but it never happens. I know they say if you lend money to family consider it a gift and I have. I said "no" this time and now I feel terrible. She started out by saying she had a medical bill to pay and then turned it around to a DUI fine that has to be paid by Jan. 1. She got picked up in August for a tail light out and had been drinking with co-workers. Her story. I was advised by the court not to help her so that was part of the reason I said "no". She works two part-time waitressing jobs. She's divorced and no kids. She said she would pay me back $100 a month. If that is true why couldn't she have saved $100 a month and had the money to pay the fine? She called me a few weeks ago and I know she wanted money then but she didn't come right out and ask until today.


Thanks for listening, I appreciate it.


My youngest step son was killed ........ sm
in a motorcycle accident and was almost decapitated. The mortician did a very good job with him, but there was still some evidence of the trauma he suffered. His mother chose to have an open casket because I doubt she could have dealt with it any other way. It was a very hard funeral, and hard for me as I had not seen him in quite some time and it was hard seeing him lying in a casket, but I think, hard as it was, it did help bring closure for me and for his family. I think it is a very personal decision that only the family can make at a time like this.
Congratulations! Brave step you took! Best wishes (nm)
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I totally agree with Ship. I used to be a step-mom...
My situation was much different, though.

I think you guys need to talk and your husband needs to get his head out of his butt and let you be a step-mom to your step-son, i.e., allow discipline for one thing. I'm not saying beat the kid bloody, of course, but if you can't tell him no or make him do something, that's ridiculous.

Sounds like your husband has big issues and I know how some men are about therapy or changing in any way. Being a step-mother is NOT easy but if you want it to work and think you can make it work, steps need to be taken; this won't go away and you can't just *tolerate* having your step-son there and only being happy with your husband when step-son is not there. Much, much good luck to you.
Home Alone 1, A Christmas Story, Home for the Holidays, Chevy Chase's Christmas, sm
There "The Gift of the Magi," He sells his gold watch to buy her a comb for her hair and she sells her beautiful long hair to buy him a chain for his gold watch. It used to be on "Short Stories by O'Henry" but that's long gone, long ago. Good moral to the story. I can't stand "It's a Wonderful Life" -- too depressing, especially with banks closing, too intimidating right now!!!
Electrical current through foot, the other hangs in walking midway through a step, anyone else?

have this problem? I have been to numerous physicians, have been told neuropathy. I am walking so gingerly this morning around the home because know if I step flat on 1 foot (left) it will have the electrical current as happened earlier this morning. Always when walking, never with lying, sitting, etc. You never know when it will happen. The other foot (pedal foot, right) will hang in mid air sometimes when I am taking a step which makes me hop so I will not fall. Gosh, I would love to look forward to my vacation this summer but sometimes the feet ok and then other times not so good. I know the electrical current is probably nerve related but have been told so many nerves in the foot would be like looking for needle in haystack to trace down. I mostly only wear bergies and put them on as soon as I get out of bed. This is not good!!


You're not 'low-class', you're FUNNY, & a good writer!
Which is often the case then someone is the first to cast stones!
Is your Tree up?

My Christmas tree won't go up till way closer to Christmas. We always get a real one. I know some people love to put theirs up right after Thanksgiving day! Some of us wait it out a bit longer.



When do you put your tree up?
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X-mas tree
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And you know, the tree and the egg nog
Had LOTS to do with it :)... you can turn even the crabbiest HumBug scrooge into a rum-drinkin, holiday singin fool! And I appreciate that tons....:) Thanks.
Here is my Tree ...

Please post yours.


Our tree

Our tree
Sorry, it is kind of blurry...
Our tree
Sorry, it is kind of blurry...
Our Tree

It's way too small for the space, but we got it when we were in a smaller house with lower ceilings.  I still like it though.  Took this before I got all the presents wrapped.


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