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What do you mean she does not support herself

Posted By: anon2 on 2008-08-22
In Reply to: your opinion is again inappropriate, as you do not support yourself. - NM

Is she on welfare?  Does she freeload off her parents or other relatives?  I think not.


I've read her other posts and yes she stated her husband has a good job.  Does that mean she does not support herself.  I think not.  YOUR OPINION IS INAPPROPRIATE. 


I have been married for many years.  Some years I had a taxable income and other years I did not.  I did, however, support my husband by cooking, cleaning, taking care of the children, etc.  I take offense to your insinuation that just because someone's spouse makes a good living that makes the other spouse's contributions insignificant.  Thank goodness the IRS doesn't see it your way, hence, the filing jointly box.




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Sorry about the HP Support. It is Hewlett Packard. I was just having a moment and should have just said to email support at whatever brand of computer you owned.

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My support also.........nm
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i need some emotional support

Not sure how much of DH yelling I can take.  I work 2 jobs.  Yesterday I had to put in 5 hours for one.  DH is supposed to help with the kids.  Well, his level of helping yesterday was just sitting in his chair and yelling at them to stop doing this or that.  He said about 5 times that my 15-mo had a dirty diaper.  I had the attitude like “well go change it, I am working.”  He never changed it and I don’t know how long she stayed in that dirty diaper but by the time I got to changing her, she was red.  Then I went to help my 5 year old with her Valentines.  She did 20 Valentines and she insisted on doing them herself. It took her 2 hours but she did it all.   I was proud of her and amazed.  Dh kept hollering for us to get through because he wanted some Ice cream.  I told him since he can drive he can go get it himself.  He got mad and started yelling.  My 15 MO kept bothering us.  I got some toys to try to help distract her and it would work for a little bit but then she would pester us some more.  I told dh to keep her distracted and he shouted “WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO.”  WHY ARE YOU ACTING THIS WAY?  WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?   I told dh that she acts like she is hungry, has she had anything to eat.  “she has been eating popcorn all after noon”  I knew better than to ask him anymore so I got up and started to go find her something to eat and he yelled “SIT DOWN”  and gave me a look that could kill. 


 


I told dh that I just don’t know how to deal with him anymore.  I feel he is angry with me or resentful.  When we first got married, his Mommy was practically sleeping in between us. She balanced our check book, she went through or mail to see what bills had to be paid, still does, she has to know everything about what we are doing.  She and dh are best friends.  MIL went on all the vacations with us and it was always where dh wanted to go and MIL always loved where dh wanted to go.   When I had the kids, it had to be all about her.  I told dh thiat if this sick business did not stop, I was leaving.  It stopped.  Poor MIL don’t get to see her DGK anymore.  Boo hoo hoo, (coming from dh and MIL).  I am so mean.   This is all another story. 


 


One minute dh says he loves me, then next he treats me like this.  My family, unfortunately, loves dh.  He doesn’t act like this around them.  He is no niceeee and MIL is so niceeee.


 


I have to go.  I got to get my kids up and ready for school.


Emotional support
Sounds like you are carrying the load yourself. It's amazing how men are so insensitive and wrapped up in themselves. You basically have to hit them over the head with a baseball bat to get any sense into them. Obviously, if you were working and you have little ones running around and needing care, how hard can it be for him to jump in there and do what needs to be done? Hang in there. Maybe you can try talking to him and spelling out for him what you expect from him when you are working, especially with the kids. Good luck!
Thanks for the support for those who gave it.
I don't feel I need to answer "Jessie" anymore.
No, they will support you in meeting your needs
Some kids just need to nurse longer than others. Sheesh.
The best thing to do is support him
If he says he is, then he is. Sit him down, ask him what he wants to do about it and help him in any way you can. Let him know that you are proud that he acknowledges the problem. In dealing with my own family members, they've told me that it really encouraged them when I acknowledged every little accomplishment. Just saying "congratulations - day 3 without (alcohol in this case)" made them feel good. But, you have to be prepared to be tough, too. If he says he wants to quit, get rid of all of the alcohol. I, too, recommend AA and Al-Anon. I wasn't all for it when I initially went to Al-Anon when I was a teenager, but it helped tremendously. Good luck, I wish you both the best.
For who? The taxpayers that have to support them?
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child support
Mine owes over $76,000.
child support
I'm in southern Idaho and I was shocked one day to read in the paper that only 10% of people here who are supposed to pay child support are current on their payments. I knew it was a problem, but I didn't realize it was that bad. I generally think my ex is a selfish jerk, but I do give him credit that he has always paid his child support and it's no small amount ($1000 a month). Sometimes I think I'd rather have him out of our lives and give up the support payments, but then I realize that it's best for the kids to have a relationship with him (unless he was abusive, which he's not, just self-absorbed).
I would much rather support the U.S. at this time..
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Mr. Tech Support
Way too funny! You can bring your guns to my house any time. LOL
TS = Tech Support said in one of his
posts:

'Ignore them and they will go away.'

So, you see, Ella, this is not a brain child of 'Anudder'.
She was getting a lot of child support before and --
her exhusband just got out of the military and now refuses to give her any money. He is in another state and is not working anymore and says he does not have to.
I believe it is Hewlett Packard support. nm
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Don't worry. Hopefully, you have family support, so
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Yes. There is a reason. I am a little behind on child support. sm
So, I am scared that it will be used against me. I get my son anything he needs and he is very well taken care of by the both of us. Very well. I fell on some hard times last year and I am now behind.

So, if I take this to court that will be held against me and I may lose him forever.

I did NOT want to go into any detail with my post. I just wanted to say that i was having a very hard day and was sad about the entire situation. That's all. Thanks for your caring.
Not referring to a no-support agreement. If there
NM
You definitely need a strong support system sm
right now. If being closer to your family will help you trough this then that is what you should do. You will be a better mother to your children if you are able to handle this better. About the money, since your child will be in first grade that should cut down on the cost of preschool. I am sure there are wonderful other speech therapists out there. Listen to your heart and "Go Home" and be surrounded by people that love and care for you.
That is true, but you will need your family's support
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I could use some collective psychic support - sm

This morning I wrote a letter to my son, who I cut out of my life eight years ago at a time he was making two children with two different women.  I got on my high horse and told him that until he straightened his life out I could not be part of his life.  He was divorced from his wife, who was pregnant, and setting up housekeeping with his girlfriend, who was pregnant.  Since then, he married his girlfriend, had another child, bought a house, but I had let it all slip away.  I've never met his son and daughter, never met his present wife.


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Could you all send your positive thoughts my way, or pray for me, that he'll let me back in his life?  I so want to rectify this horrible mistake.  I've already missed the first eight years of my granddaughter's life.  I don't want to miss the rest!


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your opinion is again inappropriate, as you do not support yourself.
nm
Michigan passed it and I support it.
I think anyone who is seriously ill should have whatever is available to help ease their pain.  I know it helps with nausea of chemotherapy too.  I think it should be decriminalized.  People are killed every day by drunk driving or those who go into violent rages or blackouts.  Most pot smokers will only get enraged if you try to take away their Dorito's! 
I can't thank you all enough for your support, information, and caring..sm
You have really uplifted me a bit, and we will continue to search for answers and pray to do the right thing.  She is so loved!!  And God Bless each and every one of you, and your loved ones, for your kind notes and posts, SO APPRECIATED!!!
Thanks for nice words of support
After reading all the other replies I started feeling guilty.

>> Take something that has great emotional value to him and hide it ...

That's what I am going to do now.
Letter to Tech Support...sm
Thought I would share this exchange with Tech Support:

Dear Tech Support,

Last year I upgraded from Boyfriend 5.0 to Husband 1.0 and noticed a distinct slow down in overall system performance, particularly in the Flower and Jewelry application, which operated flawlessly under Boyfriend 5.0.

In addition, Husband 1.0 uninstalled many other valuable programs, such as Romance 9.5 and Personal Attention 6.5, and then installed undesirable programs such as NASCAR 6.0, NFL 5.1 and Golf Clubs 4.1.

Conversation 8.0 no longer runs, and Housecleaning 2.6 simply crashes the system.

Please note that I have tried running Nagging 5.3 to fix these problems, but to no avail. What can I do?

Signed, Desperate

DEAR DESPERATE,

First, keep in mind, Boyfriend 5.0 is an Entertainment Package, while Husband 1.0 is an operating system.

Please go to the Web page "ithoughtyoulovedme.html" and try to download Tears 6.2. Do not forget to install the Guilt 3.0 update while you're at it.

If those applications work as designed, Husband 1.0 should then automatically run the applications Jewelry 2.0 and Flowers 3.5.

However, remember, overuse of the above application can cause Husband 1.0 to default toGrumpy Silence 2.5, Happy Hour 7.0 or Beer 6.1. Please note that Beer 6. 1 is a very bad program that will download the Farting and Snoring Loudly Beta.

Whatever you do, DO NOT under any circumstances install Mother-In-Law 1.0, which runs a virus in the background that will eventually seize control of all your system resources.

In addition, please do not attempt to reinstall the Boyfriend 5.0-program. This will cause Husband 1.0 to crash.

In summary, Husband 1.0 is a great operating system, but it does have limited memory and cannot learn new applications quickly. You might consider buying additional software to improve memory and performance. We recommend Cooking 3.0 and Hot Lingerie 7.7.

Good luck!
Child support questions

I hope I'm on the right board here.  :D  I have 2 kids and have been divorced 4-1/2 years.  I have had a child support order in effect since around 3 years ago, which included back pay for the whole 4-1/2 years.  This was for (don't laugh) $125 a month.  I FINALLY just started getting this support about a month ago.  First, it was $25-something a week and the past couple weeks, it has dropped down to $9.65.  I believe this is automatically coming out of his paycheck (this is the first job he's had in forever).  He tells me he has a very good job in trucking and so, what my question is, if I go back to court to modify that order, to get more, since he now has a job, will I need an attorney, or can I do that on my own?  I'm really thinking it won't even be worth the time and money with a lawyer, but I would like to have it modified, since he has an income.  To add to that, I am paying $250 for the kids' insurance, and I wasn't when the original order was made.  He also tells me he just bought a house (which is likely baloney, anyway), but if he can afford a house, surely he can afford more than $36 a month in child support.


PS:  Per the handy-dandy canculator on the state website, figuring both our incomes in (what he claims to be getting, anyway), he should be owing between $1500 and $1800.


Thanks, y'all!


I got it! Tell him 1 more kid will equal a lot more child support after the divorce : )
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I'm on quitnet for the support chat room.
I will check the others out. Thanks! :)
,,,use your support system, and find a lawyer who
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Is there a grief support group in your town?
xx
Nope, don't necessarily need family support
I'm raising my grandchild. This has split my entire family apart - no support from mom, sisters, ex-hubby, other adult child, parents of GC... NO ONE, and I'm single and getting no child support. I am developing an outside network of friends to compensate, but it has taken 18 months to get there. I just found a babysitter I'm going to start using this week so I can actually go have a meal by myself or see a movie now and then.

Sometimes in family matters, the only one you can count on is yourself and you just do what you have to do in order to do the right thing.
I can't understand my co's support desk people and they are in US. Or
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DTWS post. I'm sorry, but I cannot support a show sm

that "allows" and supports 2 people who are not married dance and become SO intimate in a setting, especially if the person is married. How sad! I hated to see Helio's long-time girlfriend give the ring back and say "I'm not going to marry you." I'd dump my fiance too after a LONG kiss to his fellow "dance partner" and then goes on the radio saying, "yes, it was a long kiss, and I liked it!" Just terrible.


I'm sure a lot of relationships have been broken up because of this show. No man when tempted with a gorgeous, voluptuous woman, can resistant feeling attractive, pressing up against her body for the sake of "dancing" and then say he did nothing wrong. Vice versa if you are a woman in a relationship.


 


It's just morally wrong. I think people should be single if they are going to dance or dance with their partners, spouses, fiances, etc. I just can't tell you how wrong it is. It's not just dancing. It's deep intimacy and cheating, all covered and hidened under "entertainment and dancing." Give me a fricken break.


 


 


Argee. Why say something if it isn't nice? We need to show some support
xx
It's not like this is a support group. It's a chat board. nm
deal
rant! who's owed the most child support?

mine is currently in arrears in the amount of $23,775 --- he inherited MILLIONS when his father died -- he refuses to work, he's never paid me a dime.... my case worker is attempting to put a lien on his $1/2-million home in Vegas..  Blessed with this child, but sure would like some support, maybe not have to work two jobs...


I'm so glad you're all here for ranting.... thanks, friends.


Of course he should help and he paid child support because they are his kids (nm)
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I did not receive any child support, so we agreed to
split all bills evenly as we have joint custody. That is what our papers say, that we split all major expenses, i.e., clothes, school supplies, education fees, etc.
Good point! Maybe he should have to pay child support!
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Why not stay safe AND support the US economy
San Diego, Santa Barbara, Santa Monica/Venice Beach, LA Jolla, Pismo Beach, etc.

Also early spring is the best time to see the Grand Canyon, Southwest, etc., before it gets hot, and the hordes of tourist busses arrive.
Live in Georgia and highly support it
If this had been the case with octomom the people would never have to support her litter.
Child support - must depend on state, my
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Thanks to everyone for your awesome advice and much needed support. I showed up at my son's SM

school yesterday afternoon and went with him to his last three classes of the day which happen to the ones he's doing the worst in.  He was mortified, mad, and I thought his head would pop off.  I think I made my point.  After school, I went with him to his English class because she asked that he stay after so she could help him catch up on his assignments.  So I sat in the back of the class while my son and his teacher worked.  And while I sat there I decided to write out some rules.


Last night my son and I sat down and talked and he said he'd do anything I asked him to do if I would please never come to his school again.  I simply said that depends on you and we left it at that.  I grounded him indefinitely - until I get some good reports back from his teachers.  No TV, no video games, no friends over, or telephone.


I don't know what will happen, but I have to say I feel pretty good just by taking control of the situation and going to his school.  A couple of weeks ago I was saying "what am I supposed to do, go to school and follow him around??!?"  And now I know that answer is yes, if that's what I have to do.  I feel less stressed. 


Thanks to everyone!


Update traffic court/child support

Well, I managed to make it to family court yesterday and back home while flying low :)  My son-in-law walked out 5 months in arrears and next payment due 3/1, already in debt for about 2 grand, plus he has to pay for the DNA test (99.999% - ha, didn't need Maury after all!)  My daughter is $1500 in arrears with another payment due 3/1, and her order has been moved over into the category to take any Federal Income Tax refunds she gets in the future to be applied to the order.  So now, finally, I should have no further court appearances unless the two want to TPR (terminpate parental rights) and let me adopt.  The next step for my daughter is jail if she doesn't pay in March, so she is already making noises she might let me adopt.  The dud has wanted to me to adopt her all along to avoid CS.


I went to municipal court and had the arrest warrant removed and was given another 2 months to pay the s-t-u-p-i-d ticket.  I asked whether the judge would accept that I corrected the tag problem the next day and was told no.  If it was expired at the time the ticket was written, then they do not make exceptions.  I checked our local newspaper and the city hired 11 new officers in 2006 for the specific purpose of enforcing vehicle/driving codes in the city.  They have increased the number of traffic-related tickets issued to almost 18,000 in 2006, up from less than 8,000 in 2004.  Now I just have to remember to pay it, but did buy a new day planner today and have written 3 reminders to myself to pay it on time  


On another note, as I have no health insurance and need certain maintenance medications (almost $1000) a month, I found needymeds.com.  I have already received a 3-month supply of one drug and will be receiving another each month shipped to my doctor's office.  The manufacturers help people who fall between the cracks by providing free medications. 


I feel a lot better about things.