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just know that you all can bill an MD for wait time

Posted By: when MD makes you wait 3 hours to see him/her on 2007-07-12
In Reply to: Update - doctor bill for missed appt - HappyCat

really - it's being done now - whereby you, the patient, can bill the doctor's office for exhorbitant time waiting.............gives them back a taste of their own medicine (with them billing you for not canceling an appointment in a timely fashion) - TWO can play that game....*lol*


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Ha! Just wait till the bill comes in.
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up already. usually wait a bit longer, but had the time.
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No wait, wait... 'mere Mom, me and my friends

can all drink it too.  Come on guyz... my Mom won't mind, have a drink and have some fun.  Bring the chocolate syrup!  Doesn't she have big nipples.  "My Dad likes 'em too and my baseball coach!     


It's actually something like a second job to get the bill that low.
I spend a lot of time studying sales and clipping coupons (doubled and sometimes tripled in our area). And I use bonus cards and shop at places like Aldi's for staple items. I never go into a grocery store without a plan, and I never buy on impulse. A lot of money can get away from you when you just browse up and down the aisles. Also, the $321 does not include cleaning products, pet food, or any paper products. That's strictly our people food. We only eat meat 3 or 4 times a week. I also cook nearly everything from scratch. That's just part of my Italian family's food tradition. I will pay $12 for a chunk of really good cheese, though! LOL It's a balancing act. I can make a really nice platter of gnocchi with just some flour, water, egg and a baking potato. For a "sauce" I just use olive oil, salt and pepper, GOOD cheese, maybe a little bit of chopped ham or dried sausage as a flavoring. Add some sauteed spinach or escarole, a little salad from whatever veggies looked good at the market. Add some beans to the salad to boost the protein, and we're eating very fine! I also haven't bought canned soup in .... probably ever. I save up chicken carcasses or buy the backs to make stock. I also make veggie stock and buy beef soup bones and make my own beef broth. The home-made stocks make all the difference when cooking from scratch.

I keep the grocery bills low by planning my shopping expeditions and cooking from scratch. It depends on how far you want to go with it. I love to cook. It's a creative outlet for me, so I find it relaxing. Someone else may not, in which case, buying convenience foods would lower their stress level and would be worth the extra expense.


I bet she won't get a bill from the
Bet the hospital writes this off.
Gas Bill
I also live in a small apartment (not a complex, up and down situation) of 2 bedrooms, living room-dinning room, kitchen, bath.  My gas bill usually runs about $175-200 a month in the winter.  My last gas bill for February was over $600.  I found out that my contract with the gas company I was using ran out, and they did not tell me.  I called another gas company who gave me a deal at half the price.  That is still way too high.  I am moving back to Oklahoma this next weekend.  I now live in Ohio.  House payment alone will save me $300 a month, and my gas payment will probably be about $100-150 a month.  I can get a huge house for $300 a month, where as I pay $550 now for a tiny apartment.  With all the cuts in pay at MQ, I just cannot afford living here any longer.
I use the bill pay also but
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How we cut our power bill...sm

The bill arrived yesterday and it was $40 less than it usually is when compared to any summer month last year.  Here's how we did this: 



  • I enforced people turning off lights when they leave rooms.

  • We switched the light bulbs in the living room and bedroom to the energy saving energystar rated bulbs.

  • When the washing machine died we replaced it with an energy saving one. 

I was suprised that the power bill went down this month... especially with it begin summer and having the A/C running. 


To help the kids remember to turn off the lights when they leave a room and to not leave water running that is not being used  I gave them the incentive that if the utility bills came in what our usual budget is then they can have the excess money for extra activities this summer.   That has sure gotten their attention! 


Maybe someone else paid the bill for you.
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Hospital bill

As long as you pay something every month, there is nothing they can do to you.


I would not take my money out of the CD's or move it.  Just keep paying something every month. 


 


Quicken Bill Pay
I use that site. It's worth the $9.95 a month to me for all the bills I write.
I have 2 gifts that fit this bill.
Back in the 80s my mother made 2 quilts, one side silky and the other side imitation fur. You talk about warm! Have used those since. The best gift ever was not Christmas but my husband (actually called first to make sure ok) and then bought me home my 2 tuxedo cats- they were really small when he first got them but they have grown into big lovable guys. One a Christmas and the other just a gift. I am blessed.
I have 2 gifts that fit this bill.
Back in the 80s my mother made 2 quilts, one side silky and the other side imitation fur. You talk about warm! Have used those since. The best gift ever was not Christmas but my husband (actually called first to make sure ok) and then bought me home my 2 tuxedo cats- they were really small when he first got them but they have grown into big lovable guys. One a Christmas and the other just a gift. I am blessed.
Electric Bill

Bill was $64.00!


$33.00 for actual electrical usage


$31.00 for Cust charge, Standard Metering charge, Distribution Facilities Charge, Transmissions Services Charge, Purchased Electricity Adjustments, Environmental Cost Recovery Adj, Energy Efficiency Programs, Franchise Cost, State Tax and Municipal Tax.


lol, I meant - nice that it is all on one bill : )
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Not the poster you replied to but I do like Bill O.

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I heard that in some states you can bill the MD

I heard this quite a few years ago, never tried it....but our time is as valuable as anybody else's time (outside of emergencies/extenuating circumstances) and I worked for an MD who kept the patients waiting for 5 hours in his waiting room....the elderly were the victims in this case....it was 20+ years ago.  And don't you just hate waiting in the waiting room for over an hour and then waiting in that examining room for any length of time beyond 10-15 minutes?!?!  Usually a 30-45 minute wait and I don't like that either....


Most of us have places to go, people to see, things to do.....all as important as anybody else.....they are not gods....far from it, actually.


Yeah, they pay our bills/mortgage/rent but doesn't mean we have to like 'em....*l*


thanks for the place to vent...


I know all about that bill they tried to pass and failed so far,
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As for pet stores, I would never buy a pet in one of those, nor would I ever let one of my kittens go to them. In fact, my breeding is very small scale, I am most definitely not making money on it, and I am very picky about who let have one of my furry kids, and I do have high quality within my chosen breed, good health and show.

Good luck in CA, but I don't think that bill will ever get passed. It is really not cost effective to the state and like you said, how could they enforce it? People find a way, sad, but true.
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ty...problem not the phone bill though...psm
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I know they say you have to let your kids make their own mistakes but it is so hard to do that when you know disaster is on its way.

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I was at a football game last night and his girlfriend was there texting away to him. I heard her tell her friend "I am talking to him on AIM since we can't talk on the phone anymore." Which meant she can't text him (we set him a limit of 200 a day) so he is sitting in his room talking to her on the computer instead. I can't stop it. There is no way I can take away his computer. I just have to let him do what he's gonna do at this point I guess........thanks for the help! Any more advice would be greatly appreciated.

I really do appreciate any help!
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I sure hope he wanted me to order one, cuz I did!! We already have a wood stove but this will help me not have to get up to put wood in it all night long to keep it going since I have not turned on my house heater in 3 years and refuse to!!!!
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No, you can not be held responsible for their bill -
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I can use bill pay to pay to a specific account #
at any bank. Its free, too.
Too bad...I have used bill pay to transfer money...
this way, but after reading your post, I looked into it and can only do it from one bank and not the other. They all have their own rules, I have just never had the need to do it the other way around.
Bill Maher addressed this end of show...sm

Bill Maher at the very end of his show Friday night (Real Time With Bill Maher) addressed this very thing in the final new rules of his show...the seriousness about the bees dying off...and what will happen if pollination no longer occurs.  VERY SCARY indeed.


Not looking for a Bill Maher like or dislike flame....just stating he brought this to MY attention Friday night....I didn't know about the bees/pollination issue nor exactly what that all meant.


Thanks for mentioning the bees/pollination issue here. 


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George Clooney!!  Ha!!  My daughter said it the other day, and tonight I heard her friend say the same thing.  They sat in the back seat of the car arguing with my 10-year-old that they were absolutely sure.  My son, also slightly misinformed said, "George Clooney is a comedian" to which my daughter's friend replied, "No, a comedian is someone who works with animals."  These really are pretty smart kids most of the time - but I got a huge kick out of their "facts" tonight!  HA!


My only bill is the house payment, which is quite taken care of
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Many years ago I had a similar thing happen, instead of gas it was an electric bill increase, and it turned out to be a faulty air conditioner.  I paid 3 outrageous power bills before that problem was solved and I didn't try to recoup what I paid from the apartment complex.  This time I'm not going to do that, as I'm now older and meaner : )  If it turns out to be some sort of leak, can I take the apartments to small claims court?  Any similar experiences?  TIA...


Do you live in Texas? Our electric bill
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Nastier than normal bill collector sm
When I was first on my own, I got in over my head with my phone service and had it go to collections. The debt got bought by another agency a while later, and when the first person called and said how much was owed, I said I could make the 4 payments of whatever it was they offered. Well, the "supervisor" wench who came on the line next said that was unacceptable. I explained that I could pay the amount they wanted for 1 payment but not the whole thing or I would not have groceries for my kids. I was calm and asked if she wanted me to pay her instead of having food for my kids, and I kid you not, she said yes!!! I explained that she was being ridiculous and how was I supposed to do something like that? Basically it all boiled down to she didn't care about anything other than getting the money and that I should have paid my bills back then, even when I admitted to her that I had made a bad choice at that time and was wanting to take care of it. I ended up getting hung up on and was so ticked I couldn't see straight.
You like Bill O'reilly?(Former host on Inside Edition)
        
Update - doctor bill for missed appt

Here is the latest scoop - and thanks everyone for all the support. 


I called today and spoke with the office manager, who seemed very nice and truly seemed embarrassed by the whole thing.  She told me that the doctor himself had wanted those letters sent out, and that they are not for patients who missed scheduled appointments at all, which is what I thought it might be (even though I cancelled the appointment at least a week prior to when it was scheduled).  He is charging us for making the appointment and cancelling it!!!  Yes, I am serious.  She apologized, said her hands were tied and that she had butted heads with him over this, but he would not budge.  He told her to tell the patients that they could either pay the $100 or he would turn them over to his attorney.  Again, I am serious.  Talk about a jaw dropper.  She also said that I was not the only patient to be complaining.  Apparently other folks are as upset at this as I am. 


I told her that I understood she was in a tough position, and I do.  It is not her fault this doctor is an a double s.  I told her to go ahead and tell him to contact his attorney if he felt he had to, but that I would be filing complaints with the BBB and the Kentucky Med. Licensing folks. 


I contacted the BBB, filed a complaint promptly with them, and also talked to the Kentucky Attorney General's office, who are sending me a complaint form.  Tomorrow I will call the Med. Licensing Board, as well as my insurance company, just to put them on alert. 


I hate the thought of this quack getting even one person to pay this ridiculous price.  A patient should not be punished for cancelling an appointment.  I just can't even begin to express how sick this makes me, and hopping mad.  Not that I think I am smarter than everyone else, but you all know that doing the work we do kinda takes the "godness" out of the way we look at doctors.  I know that people are going to pay  him when they are threatened with his attorney, and that is just wrong. 


Anyhow, thanks for letting me vent and I will keep you updated. 


HC


Refusing to open a bill doesn't make it not yours. nm
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I'll call the other kid's parent, make them pay the bill
One would assume your daughter thought the girl was just making a quick call. It is irresponsible of the other person to text on your daughters phone. I'm all for your daughter being responsible but it seems that she was totally taken advantage of and that just isn't fair.
chocolate. George Lopez or Bill Cosby?
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Is cellphone bill of close to $400 a month typical?sm

I'm curious to know this.  It isn't mine nor DH.  I find it very high, but DH says it may be from texting or whatever.  Person has state of the art "phone", which does many things, but $400? 


Thanks.


Bill collector for a finance company-worst job, sm
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I LOVE mine; my elec bill dropped 50% sm
once I started hanging more than half my laundry out! Good for the environment too. I can't believe the snobbies who are ready to say you can't use one.
The fact that both Keith Olbermann and Bill O'Reilly
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Bill Gates is paying $100,000 million or is it billion? Not easy
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Even higher bill w/3 cells & a land line, but sound quality & customer service are good.
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No! That sounds too desperate. TIME. Just give it TIME. If it is real, then sm
something will definitely evolve. If you like him, flirt back! Don't act desperate because if he DOES like you, then the suspense will just make him want to get to know you more. Trust me on this.

I worked in the medical records department of a hospital when I was single and dated a few co-workers in my early 30s. It was fun. Nothing serious came about any of the relationships.

This sounds like fun - the beginning of maybe something to come....Keep us informed.
Don't wait.
The attacks will definitely become more frequent and more sensitive. Even limiting your diet to bland foods will eventually not be good enough.

The pain is from the stones trying to pass into the biliary duct. It can be devastating if that happens.

I had open gallbladder surgery. It was painful, but I had no complications. I'm glad I had it done.

Don't wait. Infection can set in; necrosis can start.
Wait!!!!
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No, but can't wait to see it!
And he may be targeting the pharmaceutical companies next. That ought to be good, too:)
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LOL. If you to talk about the show or the new season, please feel free to email me privately (as can the rest of the posters).

Thanks. Cannot wait to here from him. nm
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