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I know all about that bill they tried to pass and failed so far,

Posted By: gd1 on 2007-07-19
In Reply to: Totally disagree with one thing you wrote. sm - GLF

I am against it being mandatory, and yes, I am part of the breed/show world, and did mixed breed rescue, volunteered in a few shows for a long time and it is heart breaking. But, in all the years I volunteered in them, the pedigree cat was rare, I only saw a persian once and a siamese once. I am not out West though. Mandatory spay and neuter will only create a black market. In CA there is already a problem with smuggling puppies in from Mexico, imagine how much worse that will get. And yes, breeders can get a license, but not everyone will get one and unfortunately, it will knock out the good ones, the bad ones always find a way around things. The better answer would be low cost spay and neuter programs so that it is more affordable. I don't know costs in CA, but here in PA they are getting very high. My vet loves me, I spend a fortune there and if somebody gets sick on the weekend, I don't think twice about going to the emergency vet and paying extra costs. I do recall, however, in the pounds I volunteered in that there more pedigree dogs, particularly large ones. In these cases, it seemed people did not do their homework and did not realize the puppy would get so big.

As for pet stores, I would never buy a pet in one of those, nor would I ever let one of my kittens go to them. In fact, my breeding is very small scale, I am most definitely not making money on it, and I am very picky about who let have one of my furry kids, and I do have high quality within my chosen breed, good health and show.

Good luck in CA, but I don't think that bill will ever get passed. It is really not cost effective to the state and like you said, how could they enforce it? People find a way, sad, but true.


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Try this one. If that fails, look for 'Roomba Cat' on YouTube. Hysterical!

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Upset with my child's school -- failed eye exam

First, the facts.  My child has retinitis pigmentosa.  His vision is 20/200 without glasses and his best corrected vision is 20/70.  I have taken him to the specialists at the University of Michigan and the prognosis is not promising.  He is only 8 years old and I don't feel he needs to know the true extent of what his future might hold.  He inherited this through me, as my parents were both blind, and this is a congenital defect. 


He came home from school yesterday and informed me they were all tested by the Health Department with an eye exam, which, of course, he failed miserably.  He informed the technician that he could not see the chart, so she told him "just guess."  Then he was asked if his glasses were old, that he might need new ones, and he informed me that she would be sending me a letter stating he needs an official eye exam and new glasses.   


So, before I blew my top, I went to the school office this morning.  I asked to see my child's emergency contact sheet, which includes a section regarding existing medical conditions.  There it was, plain as day, stating all of his ophthamologic conditions.  I feel this information should have been checked by their staff before they administered and unnecessary test on my child.  I informed the principal that I did not want him subjected to any more visual testing (which they plan to repeat in two years).  They didn't seem to understand why I would not want this free testing.  I asked them if they would perform a hearing test on a child with a hearing aid -- then they finally got my point.  I think permission slips before testing might be appropriate. 


This, too, shall pass. I went thru the same
issues with my now 18 year old when she was 15. I was not pleased, but did my best not to show it - it wasn't easy, mind you. I see that Ellen DeGeneres ad where the raccoon did her eye makeup and shudder - that's what my daughter's eyes looked like! But I tried not to make a fuss - I only drew the line at the jewelry that looked sadistic/maso, and refused to let her wear that, really explaining to her what it meant and stood for. She got the picture. Any how, at 18 she has forgotten all about her "dark days", and looks normal - whatever that is...but no more goth!
Thank you, I will pass it on. nm
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Do you actually pass out?
I had it happen a few times, but only actually passed out cold twice. It has become less frequent over the years. My episodes usually had hot/cold triggers. First time I had a bad sunburn and was putting ice on my face and ended up on the floor. Second time I got out of a hot shower into a cold bathroom (pregnant at the time) but didn't actually pass out completely. Third time I was feeling sick anyway, laying down covered up with a blanket, then got up and got something cold to drink and dropped like a rock.

I think staying hydrated is a big key. However, if this is becoming more frequent, it's time to go back to the doc and start the tests over. I myself would never want a tilt table test since I have motion sickness and know it would make me sick as a dog.

Funny! We have one that we pass around. It got
duct taped his head back on! LOL It's even funnier now!
Yes, a woman can pass it to a man, it is just like any other STD.
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Just got a chance to pass thru - let me
know how your appointment goes. I know exactly what you are talking about. I have to go to sleep on my side or I get ill. I am rather large in the upper department also - would love it if insurance would pay for a reduction. I haven't ever mentioned it to my doctor either - mainly because for each test that they decide they will run, I see another bill I would have to pay.
Can't you see it all coming to pass? sm
Everything we learned would happen is happening right now.
Just thought I pass it on...
Everyone concentrates on the problems we're having in this country lately: illegal immigration, hurricane recovery, alligators attacking people in Florida ...  Not me. I concentrate on solutions for the problems. It's a win-win situation.

Dig a moat the length of the Mexican border.

Send the dirt to New Orleans to raise the level of the levies.

Put the Florida alligators in the moat along the Mexican border.

Any other problems you would like for me to solve today?  

Think about this one:

1. Cows
2..The Constitution
3. The Ten Commandments

C O W S
Is it just me, or does anyone else find it amazing that during the mad cow epidemic our government could track a single cow, born in Canada almost three years ago, right to the stall where she slept in the state of Washington? And, they tracked her calves to their stalls. But they are unable to locate 11 million illegal aliens wandering around our country. Maybe we should give each of them a cow.

T H E  C O N S T I T U T I O N
They keep talking about drafting a Constitution for Iraq .... Why don't we just give them ours? It was written by a lot of really smart guys, it has worked for over 200 years, and we're not using it anymore.


T H E 1 0  C O M M A N D M E N T S
The real reason that we can't have the Ten Commandments posted in a courthouse is this:
You cannot post 'Thou Shalt Not Steal,' 'Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery,' and 'Thou Shall Not Lie' in a building full of lawyers, judges and politicians...It creates a hostile work environment.

Here's some info you should pass on
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I pass on chitlings, no, thanks.....nm
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that is - half the girls - also if they do pass this - sm
how long do they "have" to watch it, 1 minute, 5 minutes, what, a half hour until they change their mind? Once they get this passed, believe me, they will try something else, give an inch, they take a yard.
I like this idea! Will pass on to a friend who
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DOH! I meant they would NOT pass judgement
...sorry. P.S. Just ignore those who are responding that you are selfish. They have not walked in your shoes!
Thanks Suzanne . I'm sure it'll pass
eventually, just feeling down lately.
is a pass at your 18 year old sister
child molestation. I think that is an insult to the real survivors of molestation.
Georgia schools also socially pass....sm
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Can women pass it to men? Sorry if that sounds dumb.
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No--- bodies pass out of rigor mortis - sm
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Failed to mention replace high calorie foods with low calorie....
Stay away from pizza, cinnmon rolls and biscuits.  Traded regular snack food for fruit and veggies, apples, carrot sticks.  The first two weeks are the hardest.
hydrogen peroxide tips - received via email and thought i'd pass on. see inside.
*   This was written by Becky Ransey of Indiana (a doctor's wife), and I
want to share it with you. She was over recently for coffee and smelled
the
bleach I was using to clean my toilet and counter tops. This is what she
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ole
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What
does bleach cost? My husband has been in the medical field for over 36
years, and most doctors don't tell you about peroxide. Have you ever
smelled
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healthy! Ask the nurses who work in the doctor's offices, and ask them
if
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WWI
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troops
and hospitals. Please think about this. *
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expensive pastes. Use it instead of mouthwash. *
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with
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like
bleach or most other disinfectants will. *
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away,
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several times a day. The pain will lessen greatly. *
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*10. And of course, if you like a natural look to your hair, spray the
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not
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natural highlights if your hair is a light brown, faddish, or dirty
blonde.
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fungus,
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whites in your laundry to whiten them. If there is blood on clothing,
pour
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rinse with cold water. Repeat if necessary. *
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*I could go on and on. It is a little brown bottle no home should be
without!  With prices of most necessities rising, I'm glad there's a way
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*This information really woke me up. I hope you gain something from it,
too.
Pass it on!        *

Nah, and I NEVER pass on those round robin letters for good luck, money, love, etc. if passed on in
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It's actually something like a second job to get the bill that low.
I spend a lot of time studying sales and clipping coupons (doubled and sometimes tripled in our area). And I use bonus cards and shop at places like Aldi's for staple items. I never go into a grocery store without a plan, and I never buy on impulse. A lot of money can get away from you when you just browse up and down the aisles. Also, the $321 does not include cleaning products, pet food, or any paper products. That's strictly our people food. We only eat meat 3 or 4 times a week. I also cook nearly everything from scratch. That's just part of my Italian family's food tradition. I will pay $12 for a chunk of really good cheese, though! LOL It's a balancing act. I can make a really nice platter of gnocchi with just some flour, water, egg and a baking potato. For a "sauce" I just use olive oil, salt and pepper, GOOD cheese, maybe a little bit of chopped ham or dried sausage as a flavoring. Add some sauteed spinach or escarole, a little salad from whatever veggies looked good at the market. Add some beans to the salad to boost the protein, and we're eating very fine! I also haven't bought canned soup in .... probably ever. I save up chicken carcasses or buy the backs to make stock. I also make veggie stock and buy beef soup bones and make my own beef broth. The home-made stocks make all the difference when cooking from scratch.

I keep the grocery bills low by planning my shopping expeditions and cooking from scratch. It depends on how far you want to go with it. I love to cook. It's a creative outlet for me, so I find it relaxing. Someone else may not, in which case, buying convenience foods would lower their stress level and would be worth the extra expense.


I bet she won't get a bill from the
Bet the hospital writes this off.
Gas Bill
I also live in a small apartment (not a complex, up and down situation) of 2 bedrooms, living room-dinning room, kitchen, bath.  My gas bill usually runs about $175-200 a month in the winter.  My last gas bill for February was over $600.  I found out that my contract with the gas company I was using ran out, and they did not tell me.  I called another gas company who gave me a deal at half the price.  That is still way too high.  I am moving back to Oklahoma this next weekend.  I now live in Ohio.  House payment alone will save me $300 a month, and my gas payment will probably be about $100-150 a month.  I can get a huge house for $300 a month, where as I pay $550 now for a tiny apartment.  With all the cuts in pay at MQ, I just cannot afford living here any longer.
I use the bill pay also but
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Me again, tell you what I did about paying a bill for a dog
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How we cut our power bill...sm

The bill arrived yesterday and it was $40 less than it usually is when compared to any summer month last year.  Here's how we did this: 



  • I enforced people turning off lights when they leave rooms.

  • We switched the light bulbs in the living room and bedroom to the energy saving energystar rated bulbs.

  • When the washing machine died we replaced it with an energy saving one. 

I was suprised that the power bill went down this month... especially with it begin summer and having the A/C running. 


To help the kids remember to turn off the lights when they leave a room and to not leave water running that is not being used  I gave them the incentive that if the utility bills came in what our usual budget is then they can have the excess money for extra activities this summer.   That has sure gotten their attention! 


Maybe someone else paid the bill for you.
no msg
Hospital bill

As long as you pay something every month, there is nothing they can do to you.


I would not take my money out of the CD's or move it.  Just keep paying something every month. 


 


Quicken Bill Pay
I use that site. It's worth the $9.95 a month to me for all the bills I write.
I have 2 gifts that fit this bill.
Back in the 80s my mother made 2 quilts, one side silky and the other side imitation fur. You talk about warm! Have used those since. The best gift ever was not Christmas but my husband (actually called first to make sure ok) and then bought me home my 2 tuxedo cats- they were really small when he first got them but they have grown into big lovable guys. One a Christmas and the other just a gift. I am blessed.
I have 2 gifts that fit this bill.
Back in the 80s my mother made 2 quilts, one side silky and the other side imitation fur. You talk about warm! Have used those since. The best gift ever was not Christmas but my husband (actually called first to make sure ok) and then bought me home my 2 tuxedo cats- they were really small when he first got them but they have grown into big lovable guys. One a Christmas and the other just a gift. I am blessed.
Electric Bill

Bill was $64.00!


$33.00 for actual electrical usage


$31.00 for Cust charge, Standard Metering charge, Distribution Facilities Charge, Transmissions Services Charge, Purchased Electricity Adjustments, Environmental Cost Recovery Adj, Energy Efficiency Programs, Franchise Cost, State Tax and Municipal Tax.


lol, I meant - nice that it is all on one bill : )
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Not the poster you replied to but I do like Bill O.

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I heard that in some states you can bill the MD

I heard this quite a few years ago, never tried it....but our time is as valuable as anybody else's time (outside of emergencies/extenuating circumstances) and I worked for an MD who kept the patients waiting for 5 hours in his waiting room....the elderly were the victims in this case....it was 20+ years ago.  And don't you just hate waiting in the waiting room for over an hour and then waiting in that examining room for any length of time beyond 10-15 minutes?!?!  Usually a 30-45 minute wait and I don't like that either....


Most of us have places to go, people to see, things to do.....all as important as anybody else.....they are not gods....far from it, actually.


Yeah, they pay our bills/mortgage/rent but doesn't mean we have to like 'em....*l*


thanks for the place to vent...


just know that you all can bill an MD for wait time
really - it's being done now - whereby you, the patient, can bill the doctor's office for exhorbitant time waiting.............gives them back a taste of their own medicine (with them billing you for not canceling an appointment in a timely fashion) - TWO can play that game....*lol*
they called Bill a pig but Condi and GWB have been
those in glass houses should never throw stones, eh?  *lol* -
ty...problem not the phone bill though...psm
We are fortunate that we have unlimited texts, so the problem isn't the phone bill. The problem is I feel he is running his life into a ditch. I know he has to make his own mistakes but we raised him better than to be rude, disrespectful, and lie. At least I thought we did :(

I know they say you have to let your kids make their own mistakes but it is so hard to do that when you know disaster is on its way.

The only real problem with taking is phone away is he will be 2 hours away and I won't have any way to contact him or him us at any time. They don't even put phones in the dorms these days.

I was at a football game last night and his girlfriend was there texting away to him. I heard her tell her friend "I am talking to him on AIM since we can't talk on the phone anymore." Which meant she can't text him (we set him a limit of 200 a day) so he is sitting in his room talking to her on the computer instead. I can't stop it. There is no way I can take away his computer. I just have to let him do what he's gonna do at this point I guess........thanks for the help! Any more advice would be greatly appreciated.

I really do appreciate any help!
I saw that Bill Maher episode too
I recently started watching him and he really puts things into persective. Especially the comment about about Colonel Sanders and chicken going up. Has some fascinating guests on.

One thing I did say to DH after I heard Bush say that people could use the stimulus to help pay for gas I looked at him and said "Of course he wants us to spend it on gas. He's an oil guy."

Can't wait for Bill Maher to come back on.
SAVE ON HEATING BILL!
A friend told me about these and my husband brought an article home today. They are Heat Surge Fireless Flame miracle heaters produced by the Amish. I will try to attach the link to the web site so you can check them out....don't panic at the price! You can order the mantle right now for $298 and get a FREE heater (normally around $600 together) The mantle (which goes around the heater) is solid wood. Right now you can order 2 per household. Click on the link that says "do not have claim code" to see where in the country you are and get the phone#. You only have 48 hours to order, and mine started yesterday.

I sure hope he wanted me to order one, cuz I did!! We already have a wood stove but this will help me not have to get up to put wood in it all night long to keep it going since I have not turned on my house heater in 3 years and refuse to!!!!
Post again when you get your electric bill and
DON'T FORGET to send your warranty in. Hopefully, it will last longer than my Eden Pure. Do a follow up, please. I'm still thinking about it.
No, you can not be held responsible for their bill -
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I can use bill pay to pay to a specific account #
at any bank. Its free, too.