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there are *weird psychos* in EVERY religion...

Posted By: and they are called fanatics....sm on 2007-07-28
In Reply to: Boy, they can just HAVE that weird, - PSYCHO religion! nm

I so respect everyone's religion but I am appalled by religious fanatics...the ones who go wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overboard and I think misinpret Bibles.......taking things to the EXTREME.....


fanatics, extremists - nope, cannot deal with them....and shouldn't have to but I notice each religion has so many different levels and sects - it's almost like different religions within each separate religion....I get some of that....but not all of it....


*scratches head quizzically* because I'm a live and let live type of person and so it's difficult to understand why EVERYONE doesn't let everyone live and let live.....




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Closet psychos

Yes, I've had that happen plenty and even had people gleefully expand on all their torturing cat stories "one time me and my buddy took a cat and...".  It's sick. Anybody who would treat animals that way and then brag about it needs to have the same thing done to them!  I stay away from anybody who needs to act like that (and I don't even have cats anymore).  Obviously they're not the kind of person you'd want in your house - what if they don't like something else you have - will they feel entitiled to destroy it in some horrific way and then brag?  They need mental help!


As far as not wanting cats to rub against them, well, at least they don't slime you with stinking saliva and cover you with mud like a dog does.  I agree with other posters that if I don't like a person's pet, child, or anything else they have, I certainly don't feel the need to announce it with pride!  To each his own, and its none of my business.  The only time I would say anything was if the critter in question was all over me and I wanted it off.


Tell them it is against your religion.
That has worked for me and have had some say, really? I just refuse, simple for me.
As far as I know, it sounds like her religion....
is Penecostal. I believe that the women in that religion wears skirts at all times. Jehovah's Witnesses do not wear skirts all the time, only when attending congregation meetings and when out in their ministry that they do.

I feel very sorry for the OP because it sounds like her & hubby are good friends to the couple. It is true that divorce hurts everyone....what's worse is that marriage can sometimes hurt everyone too.

In a case like this, it is better to just be supportive to both parties and try not to take sides, hopefully they will iron things out.
This is not religion, this is MYTH.
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No MT, no politics, no religion. Anything else is ok.
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I am not trying to be disrespectful but her religion- sm
is/was her business. If I was on my deathbed the last thing I would want do discuss with my relatives would be if I had accepted Jesus into my heart, etc. I really hate it that new "christians" feel it is there mission in life to "save" everybody and feel they have to convert everybody and save them from themselves. My dad has recently refound religion and it is causing lots of strife in our family which is very non-religious. No one wants to be with him because his is constantly nagging us to go to church with him, to convert, etc. He blamed it on my mom (who is dead) as the reason why he did not return to the church sooner - horsepucky as Colonel Potter would say-- once she died he was re-born 3 months later. I am not baptist, nor do I go to church, nor do my kids. They know about Jesus and God though, but I don't feel the need or desire to go to church every Sunday and hand them over 10% of our gross income which in our case would almost pay for a second house. You should not be worrying about your grandmother's salvation, worry about yourself and stop trying to save the world. I am sure she is where she wanted to be and her spirit will live on in your heart and memories.
That's the Muslim Religion

Haven't you seen or heard how they treat their women, especially with all the stuff happening in the Middle East now. They are the ruler of the family and the women must cow-tow [sic] to them. 


IOW, women are second class citizens in their world just like it used to be in the U.S. before Susan B. Anthony and others. If you daughter wants to be independent, there is no way it will happen being married to him. I wouldn't even bother telling the parents since they are getting a divorce, BUT MAKE SURE you get a restraining order on him or else it may get very dangerous.


I don't mean to scare you, but please be careful.


 


woodchucks & religion
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could wood?  Gotta smile....As for the posts about religion, let the Christians be.... It matters not whether you're Baptsit, Jewish, Budhist, Christian, Hindu, Catholic, AME Zion, 7th day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, atheists...There's a lot more people here in the US with diverse backgrounds and beliefs....That's what makes this country so great...freedom of speech and the freedom to practice the religion of your choice  Lighten up. 
This is too much! I was just over on the Religion board and sm
someone posted a link to Alan Jackson's How Great Thou Art. It was an amazing tribute. Then another slow song came on after that and I came over here while letting the music play in the background. I was doing fine until I read about the 10 y.o. getting fitted for dentures. I am bawling my eyes out over here! I have a sweet, precious, well-behaved 10 year old son. I can't imagine. I just can't. O God, help us.
I am not turning this to a religion argument- sm
I prefer not to have my child taught at a church school for personal reasons. The school they were attending squeezed in church teachings as it is, though they were not a church school, and I was not thrilled with that either. Some teachers did it more than others. As for find a teacher that "really cares" only being at a church affiliated school, that is quite a broad statement to make. At the private school my kids had been attending, the teaches were paid 25% less than what the teachers made at the public school level, which could mean 3 things, the teacher really cared and wanted a small class size to teach, (2) wanted kids that were less troublesome to teach and better behaved (3) the teacher was inadequate and could not get hired in a public school (which was the case for a few teachers where my kids were). ---There are a lot of angles to look at when considering private school religion is one of them, tuition, quality of the teachers, certification, the school board, the parent organization, the involvment expects --ours was extreme involvement which is good and bad (burnout)--I am much happier now with the kids in public school, and my 8-y/o is now actually being taught by a qualified computer teacher and not some old lady who knew nothing about computers or computer programs trying to make a few extra bucks having the kids make designs and pictures on the computer (they had a new computer teacher every year as they'd quit every year). There are pros and cons to every school, you got to find out what you want to deal with.
yep, religion and landowners.....I agree! sm

The Crusaders - yep, I remember it well.  Also, I divorced a man who later on became born again and now we cannot have ONE conversation without him bringing that aspect of life into the convo.


Really bothers me too........geesh.


Not the right term to use here. Amen against religion?nm
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I also know of one religion that helps out community
they actually pay back some in taxes to communities where there is a volunteer fire department, etc., precisely because they benefit from such services.
No, it is an inferance and any teaching of religion -sm
should be done by the parents. I had my kids in private school up until 2 years ago, took them out for several reasons, one being that many of the teachers were teaching about God and making them pray before every meal (snack and lunch). I was paying $12K a year for my kids not to be in a church school, as this was not a religious school (or at least not supposed to be). I could have sent them to many, many cheaper schools in the area but they were all church affiliated. Some of us don't want our kids to be taught by others. I explain all the different religions to my kids, but don't want some outsider to teach their beliefs to my child. It is not their business to teach religion, if they want to do that then become a minister and run a church.
i beg to differ. I wish i had freedom FROM religion
I get treated by a leper because I am athiest.

But, shouldn't this be on the RELIGION Board?? nm
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Are you rejecting religion and the Bible or God?

I have problems myself with organized religion; however, I have personal proof of life after death, which leads me to believe in a Creator.  Just curious about where you're coming from.


I know the catholic religion has guidelines

that my religion, Methodist, don't have as I have relatives that have converted so they can get married.  I think in my cousin's case, he did not want to jump through all those hoops and was thinking about getting married by a methodist preacher.   That priest told them that if they do that, but then his wife-to-be would loose her place in the church, meaning she could still go but she could not, participate in ceremonies, make decisions for the church etc.,  because she would not be considered married and living in sin. 


Anyway, I think your dd and future SIL should get a 2nd opinion from another priest.  But, you should remember too that this is their battle.  If they are big enough to get married, they are big enough to fight their own battles.  If they truly want to be married than they will and this is pretty much small potatoes. 


Sounds like a conservative religion. Mennonite
perhaps? They are less conservative than Amish, but very conservative - skirts and meeting in homes being my only clues. But that said - normally any conservative "religion" also does not approve of divorce no matter what - save adultery. And I have heard that some conservative "reconstructionist" groups do not even support divorce under those circumstances either - sounds like the wife is playing some games. Very sad, and I'm sorry for you folks, too. Divorce hurts everyone.
take your bible thumping to the religion board.
Another good example of a CARNAL "Christian" calling people pathetic and nauseating, a fine example of "love thy neighbor as thyself." LOL
Didn't say you couldn't talk about religion
She just said to take it to the Christianity Boards and keep it off the Gab Board. I had no problem with it, but the we're not in charge, the modertor/adminstrator is.
Isn't it illegal to fire someone for observing their own religion? nm
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Haven't you heard? Freedom of religion isn't for...SM

Christians.  It's for everyone else.  Sure a Muslim can pray in this country anytime they want, heck you can worship satan himself or practice witchcraft, but a be a Christian and actually admit you are one, let alone pray or read your Bible in public... come on, are you serious?  You know every Christian has a secret agenda.  We're just proselytizing little brainwashed fools.  We're not just praying quietly to ourselves -- we are praying God will send a lightening bolt and strike all the unbelievers.  We Christians aren't just placing our Bibles on our desks to read during our breaks -- we HOPE to beat someone over the head with it at some point during the day.


Freedom of religion has been twisted by the liberal spin doctors.  It only applies to to those who think like them.... ironic isn't it?


"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them." -- Lenny Bruce


 


Also try reading about comparative religion and myth - sm
I recommend The Power of Myth (book and series of specials on PBS) with Joseph Campbell. Interesting stuff. The search for the meaning of life is world-wide and Christianity is certainly not the only belief system out there, nor organized religion in general for that matter!
Religion is not the only means to spirituality or vice versa (SM)
They certainly do exist together for many people, but they do exist exclusive of each other for others. An atheist can be the most spiritual person on the block over his or her religious peers. Spirituality is a concept that is different for each person. It is what makes a person feel they are at the right place at the right time, like they are at peace, or whatever someone decides for themself is their truth.

Think outside the box!
Yes, but Indian's from India are not Muslim. They are of the Hindu religion. sm
they also believe in reincarnation and not the Koran.

They do treat women as a much lower class, though.
Doesn't matter what religion they are, the Indians treat
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That's what I LOVE about America. Freedom of Religion, speech, etc. But sm
I have to say, if you are an atheist (I am a Christian, BTW), where is your moral "compass" (sorry for the pun) I was an atheist for many, many years (3/4 of my life spent without God or religion). In that time I was: Suicidal, desperate, a liar, a phony, had no direction in life, a slander and just about everything else worldly you could think of. I was selfish..must I go on?
Then, when I hit rock bottom I had no where to look but up. He was there (God). He placed me upon a rock and I've never looked back or down since. I can honestly say I no longer lie or think bad thoughts about other people. I have a clear direction for my life. I do follow Biblical principles and obey His laws. I have a moral compass and a value system I am so proud of. As an atheist there was no right or wrong in my life. Since I didn't fear God I did basically whatever I felt was good or right, even believe in abortion. I am being totally transparent with you, from one ex-atheist to another atheist.

How do you explain a radical life change such as myself? Where do you draw your line of morality from? God says abortion is wrong and so it's wrong. God says a gay lifestyle is an abomination, and so it is. Don't get mad at me, It's in His Word. He said it. Not me.

Anyways, I think that there is much to be said about living a good Christian lifestyle and following its beliefs. My life is in clear order now instead of chaos. I have a life-long goal - to make it to heaven and take those whom I love with me.

What a sad, sad life I led before God. Wow. Like the old saying goes, "I never want to go back to my old life." Good luck to you.


I did last year and promptly told to post on religion board.
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Heads up! The Gab board is for general discussion not to include MT, Religion, or Politics.
This was put into place when we very first set up the Gab board.  We have a Christianity, Conservatives, and Liberals forum that you can post on.  But, let me be clear. I do not condone trashing of anyone's religious preference and neither should you.  I expect posts on any of these forums to be respectful (that does NOT mean we are censoring, there IS a difference).  This is NOT open for debate. These are the rules.  If you can't respect them, you don't need to post here.
That's weird.
That portion of the toolbar says at the bottom of the left sidebar when I scroll up and down. Good luck!
Boy, they can just HAVE that weird,
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no, thats weird, unless
like our daughter, whose husband just installed a new stove -- he didn't know about changing the orifices and had it set for natural gas instead of propane -- they didn't know it but they were gassing themselves a few days.
is it so weird?
People who are under stress are likely to do anything - whether it be physical or emotional or mental stress. If the auditors didn't catch the error for so long then I say shame on the foundation - this woman was obviously very ill.
Not weird but
I just started collected Willow Tree angels.  They're precious.  I believe in angels.  Right after my sister passed away I was wandering through a store and out of the blue a woman asked me my opinion on a pillow - it had angels on it!  I took it as a sign that my sister was telling me she was okay and was now my angel!  I had goosebumps at the time.
That is so weird (sm)
Because if you're where I think you are from your signature, just up the highway they've had those avalanches, and here in Seeley we're snowing as I type, and have had at least two feet of white stuff in the last two weeks....of course, it did rain last night a bit before snowed again, and the same the other day. But still.....weird weather we're having, huh....and even read that where you are, you have less than normal snowfall, and it's "dry snow" ....so if they tell us come summer and fire season that this snow didn't count for anything, I'm gonna be reallllyyyyy po'd....lol.....anyhoo, keep dry.......
Not weird at all - sm
I think that definitely has something to do with his behavior.  I often jokingly use that as a defense to friends/family when we're out and he starts acting up.  We do try to do one-on-one things with each of our kids and will continue to do it.  He just requires a little more one-on-one.  Thanks for your post.
How weird is this?
My husband and I were just talking about that dweeb, Billy Mays, too!     He gets on my nerves so bad.  I cannot stand that dude.
Weird...
I don't practice feng shui yet but plan on learning...

I was looking at apartments to rent and walked into one (after looking at several) that just felt like 'home.' I couldn't explain it, but the feeling of peace, harmony and happiness just filled the apartment (occupied by a single nurse and her very large, very fluffy kitty).

I snapped the apartment up not only because it was beautiful but because of the incredibly positive energy the apartment exuded.

When I was signing the lease, I was explaining to the manager how good I felt about the place. She said, "I think maybe there's something to that feng shui the woman who lives there now does."

YEAH, DEFINITELY!!!!!!
no not weird,
i never was much good at the sewing part, but i do my own cleaning, make most my meals from scratch, and have made my own butter, enjoyed the simplicity in the past of a wringer washer...i think all the conveniences and hired services sometimes make for more stress, not less. there is a satisfaction to be had there, and it is the biblical way, in my opinion...carry on!! but by the same token, those who hire out help and use all the conveniences are not weird either...
No, definitely not weird...
I don't mind cooking and cleaning but some days with working and taking care of 2 little ones, it would be nice to just pay someone to do it...if we didn't have the money to do it though obviously it would not even be a consideration...believe me, we have money to have a maid come in once a week but my husband says no, so guess who does it??? me
that's really weird. Even Mom and Dad?
They probably suffer from dementia. Brother, also?
Don't be sad about the others.
I would mention it only to your parents, brother and boyfriend.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY

and many more to come!
This may sound a bit weird., but /sm
I read your post and got to thinking about when I lived in a really large house and kept missing the knocks at the front door. I got myself one of those wireless doorbells, and would take the "bell" part from room to room with me when I was expecting a delivery... I wonder if you could take the part that usually screws onto the door frame and put it on a necklace or something for you mother to wear and "ring the doorbell" when she needs help, and then take the "bell" part from room to room. Actually mine was loud enough I didn't need to pick it up and move it unless I was going upstairs. They might even sell them with 2 or more receivers (what I call "bells") so you could hear it ring on whatever floor you are on.

Good luck. I took care of my uncle when he had lung cancer and we rigged up a baby monitor for him, but he was in a 1-story house and I could hear him except at night time, so I can empathize.
Yeah, its so weird
I can only lose weight doing low carbs too. I have done Weight Watchers and even staying in the points doesn't do any good if I am including too many carbs in there.
3 weird dogs
We have 3 dogs, one large, two small. The big dog is weird - he hides when he sees flashlight beams or hears electronic tones (like when the cell phone blows up) and it is so bad that he will knock over furniture trying to find a hiding place where he hunkers down and shakes and his paws sweat, so I guess these things really scare him. It is funny because he is huge and fearless most of the time.

The male small dog eats tomatoes right off the vine from the garden and likes to lick cast iron (antique sewing machine legs and a candle holder on my fireplace). He will lick these for hours. He eats great expensive food and takes vitamins too. So why???

The small female dog is a crack-up. She is one now and still acts like a puppy and carries her toys everywhere. She will for no reason run in small circles and then lie down flat on her stomach with her legs stretched out like superman flying. She sleeps lying on her back on a pillow like people do and snores like a freight train.

I guess you can tell that I love dogs! They are weird, but they are my babies.
THis is so weird because I had an email
from Paypal this morning confirming a purchase and I don't even have a Paypal account!!!  I checked my bank account quickly but that seemed all in order.  I sent the email to spoofpaypal.com for them to look into it.
Men are just weird some times##
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Not weird at all - see inside
Men do stuff like this, most of them I expect. He just so happened to have you walk in on him. Please go to counseling to work through any problems you have, or go alone if he refuses to go. :-)
Seems weird he would go to craigslist
for help.
Okay, this may sound weird but.....
I have seen this in two different children in the family and they were all middle children. I know some may say there is no such thing as the middle-child syndrome but I say different. My daughter has two friends who were middle children growing up and they both had outbursts and seemed upset all the time, and their parents were constantly upset about them. In seeing this in my family and with friends, I really truly believe there is something to this. My mother is a middle child also and I can see she is perceived differently by her own siblings. She has been treated ugly by her younger sister and older brother. Her own parents (my grandparents) have always treated her differently, even though they would deny they have. I have seen it with my SIL and her daughter, the middle child. Now, on the other hand, the couple of middle children I have not seen it happen in was where the other children, one older and one younger, were opposite sex; she had two brothers. My mother had a sister and brother, my other family members also have sisters and brothers, but the ones with two siblings of the opposite sex than they, seemingly have no problems like this. A close friend had an older son, then a daughter, and then the youngest girl. The middle daughter began this behavior as well very early on. Since my girlfriend was a middle child, she quickly picked up on this and started spending time with this child alone and doing activities completely separate from the other siblings. She did tell me that if she were perfectly honest, she realized the oldest child probably did get more attention and then the second came along, probably not the same amount of attention, and then with the baby, of course, lavishing again because that child was the baby of the home. Being a middle child herself, she was very honest about this and knew what she felt like, so from early on, she spent a lot of time with this child, which may have seemed over doing it to the other siblings, but I have to say, it really changed things for the better for this child. She seemed to just blossom and the negative behavior just stopped. They took pictures of her by herself without other siblings around, movies alone with her, time cooking in the kitchen, just a lot of one-on-one time, and it really changed her for the better. I'm really sorry this is happening but I have to say, I've seen this happening over and over in my family and my friends. There is something to this middle-child thing. I think without even realizing it, parents are behaving differently toward the middle child; I can't put my finger on it but even I know we took tons of pictures of our first and as parents know, we tend to put the next child in everything together with the first, and sometimes their own identify gets lost in the shuffle.....you know?

My girlfriend did have a particular doctor who wrote books on this and she read a lot of the books, which she said made a lot of sense to her. She did not want her middle child to feel the way she did growing up and with the suggestions made, she did try them, and the return was great!! Maybe try this? I know you love this child just as much, but I'm certain the frustration you feel (and it sounds your son feels as well) is coming through. With his age, he just doesn't have the coping skills to know what is bothering him necessarily, so maybe a good book on this would help you.


How weird. I was just going to ask the same thing
I also have huge bags under my eye. I never paid too much attention until my daughter told me that I looked tired one day. Boy do they look awful. Cover make up doesn't even begin. I was hoping others would have some remedies to at least make them less puffy and dark. I may have to try Preparation H.