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I did last year and promptly told to post on religion board.

Posted By: OP on 2007-09-12
In Reply to: Well, OP could have put Happy Rosh Hashanah - and Happy Ramadan sm

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This is too much! I was just over on the Religion board and sm
someone posted a link to Alan Jackson's How Great Thou Art. It was an amazing tribute. Then another slow song came on after that and I came over here while letting the music play in the background. I was doing fine until I read about the 10 y.o. getting fitted for dentures. I am bawling my eyes out over here! I have a sweet, precious, well-behaved 10 year old son. I can't imagine. I just can't. O God, help us.
But, shouldn't this be on the RELIGION Board?? nm
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take your bible thumping to the religion board.
Another good example of a CARNAL "Christian" calling people pathetic and nauseating, a fine example of "love thy neighbor as thyself." LOL
Heads up! The Gab board is for general discussion not to include MT, Religion, or Politics.
This was put into place when we very first set up the Gab board.  We have a Christianity, Conservatives, and Liberals forum that you can post on.  But, let me be clear. I do not condone trashing of anyone's religious preference and neither should you.  I expect posts on any of these forums to be respectful (that does NOT mean we are censoring, there IS a difference).  This is NOT open for debate. These are the rules.  If you can't respect them, you don't need to post here.
they told me it was post-cholecystectomy syndrome
and that it was pretty common and would gradually and eventually stop. I was just thinking today that wow, I haven't been sick to my stomach or puked at work in at least a month now, and the diarrhea has been better too. So maybe that is all it was. Keeping my fingers crossed!
did you read the post? she did not ask them; she told them to leave.
and if she would have treated them differently, they would have responded differently.
Might want to post on your State Board and see
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Trying to post on Gab board to LinK - I think (sm)
Finally watched "Reefer."  Graphic wasn't the word.  EEK!  I'm all caught up now and waiting for Tuesday night. 
I'm going to post on the liberal board
You are totally correct. I'd like to post something to your reply, but want to post on the liberal board. I don't want anyone to get offended here, so will post there.
I know this will get moved to the Gab board, but for some reason I cannot post there and I SM

I really need some opinions.  So when it get's moved, please follow it over.


My son's school called me this morning to tell me that they have not yet received my son's transcripts from his the private school he attended last year.  The secretary at the new school tells me that she when she faxed her request for the records along with my signed release, the school only sent her my son's shot record and any other medical history they had on him and that was it.  They provided no explanation whatsoever.  When she called the old school, she was told that I have an outstanding tuition balance and they refuse to release his records until the balance is paid.


 


Regardless of whether or not I owe them money, can they legally do this?  I have tried to research this to no avail.  All I have found out is a court case in Louisiana where a judge ruled that a private school can refuse to release a student's records to the student's parents if they have not paid tuition, but that legally the school cannot keep the student's records from the student.  Wouldn't this be what the school is doing?  I am not the one requesting copies of my son's records, it is the public school district in which my son is a student that has requested the records.  I simply signed the release forms and gave them my son's proper identifying information, i.e. social security # and birth date so that the school district would be able to obtain his records.


 


I am very angry.  This private school and I have not seen eye to eye for quite some time on a number of different issues.  My son attended there only at the behest of my father-in-law who is a member of the church that owns the school.  My father-in-law offered to pay half the tuition if I let my son go there.  I agreed because it was a small private school and I felt that my son would benefit from the small class sizes and the "Christian" values.  However, over the  four years my son attended that school, I found that these values weren't so "Christian" after all.


 


I had trouble with the school "losing" my tuition payments a few times.  I am not the only parent that had this trouble.  A number of parents received collection calls saying we were behind on our tuition payments and that we needed to pay immediately or our children would not be allowed to attend; only to find that when I presented the school with a copy of my canceled check, the payments were simply not written down in the ledger and were called a "common bookkeeping error."  This happened on more than one occasion and I have contacted my former bank in search of the tuition payment they claim is missing now that has caused them to withhold my son's records.  There were also rumors of embezzelment within the church that owns the school.  Apparently the Pastor embesseled some money from the church to invest in real estate "for the church" and when the IRS starting sniffing around, there was a fall guy that the church refused to press charges on, and a number of church board members were given high paying, useless jobs at the school as a "thank you for keeping your mouths closed."  There are four principles and two superintendents at the school.  This is a school that has maybe 100 students total counting all students, K through 12th grade.  Why on earth do they need that many principles and superintendents?


 


So you see, there are some shady things going on in that school and I have to wonder if this isn't just another ploy to extort more money from me.  Which brings me back to my initial question, can they legally do this?  Even if I truly did owe them money, can they withhold my son's records from a public school district who requires those records in order to make sure my son is placed in the appropriate classes?  Should I contact a lawyer?


 


I am sooooooo mad right now, I can't even see straight! 


the post is on the prayer board, with my reply :)
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There is an autoimmune board - see directly above your post. nm
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When you post a vent on public board, must be
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catching up on reading the board and had to post

In response to the hub-bub about the illegal residents of our country and their lack of interest in learning to speak English - Just a few days ago, my kids got off the school bus and came running in the door in a panic.  One picks up the phone and starts dialing like crazy while the other proceeds to tell me what was going on.


A girl who lives up the road has severe asthma.  While she was on the bus, she started having an asthma attack and her inhaler was empty.  The kids were all trying to tell the bus driver that there was a problem and that the girl needed help. 


Turns out they had a substitute bus driver that day.  This guy speaks very little English and was yelling at the kids over and over again, "Must Go.  Must Go," and continued with his route, completely ignoring the fact that there was an obvious medical emergency on board his bus.


So my kids could not reach the girls parents by phone (busy) and since she still had a long, uphill walk after her bus stop, it was 7 degrees out (not helpful for an asthma attack,) and was in distress when my kids got off the bus,  we hopped in the car and went to get her to take her home. 


By the time we got to her, she was white as a ghost, purple lips, and about ready to pass out.  Her brother was practically dragging her.  Got her in the car and took her to her house where her dad met us. 


Makes me wonder how can a school employee NOT speak or at least understand English well enough to be able to handle situations like this?  What if she had lost consciousness on the bus or worse.  Sounds to me like he would have continued on with his route and maybe done something about it after he got back to the bus garage? 


Post on Weight Loss board. nm

Does this post not belong on the political board?
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Can someone remind me how to post a picture to this board? Thanks - nm
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No, west coasters shouldn't have to wait to come to this board. Again, do not post
If you feel that you must post, post something in the subject line that there is spoiler information on the inside of the post then make your post inside so those who don't want to know will know not to open your post.
link for Mental Health Board inside post

http://forum.mtstars.com/misc/b/8.html


it's located right here above our posts and under the words GAB BOARD


Thought I saw a post like yours on the political board regarding grape research
America cannot take care of all the needy in the world, even if they gave the "grape research" money to them. Keep off your soapbox because you are yelling. I know several who use the welfare system. I give to no one on the streets. I don't care what kind of sign they are holding up, will work for ..... I rescue animals and help our 4 legged friends. That is about as charitable as I get.
Post from main board ie Michael Moore movie Sicko

I have NO desire to see this movie, and I believe that it is just perpetuating and promoting what is going on in this county  -- I recently suffered a broken leg and went to THE "county hospital, i.e., Jackson Memorial, in Miami/Dade County  -- the ONLY reason that I even went there was because of the fact that my significant other did not understand that with my insurance through CHAMPUS that I could be seen at any or all hospitals in the Miami area  -- as a side note, the ONLY time that I have been "turned down" is at a Kaiser facility as far as being seen as a CHAMPUS patient.


CHAMPUS is the major insurance carrier that serves our military and their familes once the service member is honorably discharged, retires from active duty or dies in active combat or retired. 


What I endured at Jackson was little short of HORRENDOUS and I believe that if any of us were to be seen at a major medical facility, we would soon find this out.


Jackson Memorial is 1500 beds  -- I was initially seen in their "Extreme Care" section  -- I got there at 11:30 a.m. and was finally out of there at 11:30 p.m.  In the meantime, I walked down to their radiology department because the ignoramous P.A. did not put me in a wheelchair or crutches after I told him that the ankle area had been bruised for a week  even after I wrapped it, Epsom salts, ice packs etc  -- guess their attitude was "oh well"  -- sure enough, it was a fracture  -- they lost my records and with my second appointment it was from approximately 9:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. to be seen in their "Trauma Clinic"  -- no docs, just residents,but tell you what, if you are of Hispanic descent, or poor  -- BOY do you get preferential treatment  -- needless to say, I am still in pain, with swelling, can't wear a shoe after the cast being off a week, and cannot get results  -- I called the ER a bit ago and told them that I was going to be seen at a real hospital and that they could take their treatment and stick it


Bottom line is that patient care has TRULY gone down the toilet, whether it be a nurse, doctor or ANY kind of healthcare professional.


 


No, that is her daughter. This is her 19-year-old son. Looking for link. Will post.
Be right back.
prayer for you; also, you may want to post on Prayer board
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Tell them it is against your religion.
That has worked for me and have had some say, really? I just refuse, simple for me.
Could someone tell me if there is a Christianity board as well as a prayer board (sm)
or are they one in the same? I have some faith related questions, but don't want to post on the prayer board again if it is specifically for prayer requests. I do not see a Christianity board listed. Thanks so much.
Main board, gab board, company, etc, just like here,
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As far as I know, it sounds like her religion....
is Penecostal. I believe that the women in that religion wears skirts at all times. Jehovah's Witnesses do not wear skirts all the time, only when attending congregation meetings and when out in their ministry that they do.

I feel very sorry for the OP because it sounds like her & hubby are good friends to the couple. It is true that divorce hurts everyone....what's worse is that marriage can sometimes hurt everyone too.

In a case like this, it is better to just be supportive to both parties and try not to take sides, hopefully they will iron things out.
This is not religion, this is MYTH.
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No MT, no politics, no religion. Anything else is ok.
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I am not trying to be disrespectful but her religion- sm
is/was her business. If I was on my deathbed the last thing I would want do discuss with my relatives would be if I had accepted Jesus into my heart, etc. I really hate it that new "christians" feel it is there mission in life to "save" everybody and feel they have to convert everybody and save them from themselves. My dad has recently refound religion and it is causing lots of strife in our family which is very non-religious. No one wants to be with him because his is constantly nagging us to go to church with him, to convert, etc. He blamed it on my mom (who is dead) as the reason why he did not return to the church sooner - horsepucky as Colonel Potter would say-- once she died he was re-born 3 months later. I am not baptist, nor do I go to church, nor do my kids. They know about Jesus and God though, but I don't feel the need or desire to go to church every Sunday and hand them over 10% of our gross income which in our case would almost pay for a second house. You should not be worrying about your grandmother's salvation, worry about yourself and stop trying to save the world. I am sure she is where she wanted to be and her spirit will live on in your heart and memories.
That's the Muslim Religion

Haven't you seen or heard how they treat their women, especially with all the stuff happening in the Middle East now. They are the ruler of the family and the women must cow-tow [sic] to them. 


IOW, women are second class citizens in their world just like it used to be in the U.S. before Susan B. Anthony and others. If you daughter wants to be independent, there is no way it will happen being married to him. I wouldn't even bother telling the parents since they are getting a divorce, BUT MAKE SURE you get a restraining order on him or else it may get very dangerous.


I don't mean to scare you, but please be careful.


 


woodchucks & religion
How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could wood?  Gotta smile....As for the posts about religion, let the Christians be.... It matters not whether you're Baptsit, Jewish, Budhist, Christian, Hindu, Catholic, AME Zion, 7th day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, atheists...There's a lot more people here in the US with diverse backgrounds and beliefs....That's what makes this country so great...freedom of speech and the freedom to practice the religion of your choice  Lighten up. 
I am not turning this to a religion argument- sm
I prefer not to have my child taught at a church school for personal reasons. The school they were attending squeezed in church teachings as it is, though they were not a church school, and I was not thrilled with that either. Some teachers did it more than others. As for find a teacher that "really cares" only being at a church affiliated school, that is quite a broad statement to make. At the private school my kids had been attending, the teaches were paid 25% less than what the teachers made at the public school level, which could mean 3 things, the teacher really cared and wanted a small class size to teach, (2) wanted kids that were less troublesome to teach and better behaved (3) the teacher was inadequate and could not get hired in a public school (which was the case for a few teachers where my kids were). ---There are a lot of angles to look at when considering private school religion is one of them, tuition, quality of the teachers, certification, the school board, the parent organization, the involvment expects --ours was extreme involvement which is good and bad (burnout)--I am much happier now with the kids in public school, and my 8-y/o is now actually being taught by a qualified computer teacher and not some old lady who knew nothing about computers or computer programs trying to make a few extra bucks having the kids make designs and pictures on the computer (they had a new computer teacher every year as they'd quit every year). There are pros and cons to every school, you got to find out what you want to deal with.
yep, religion and landowners.....I agree! sm

The Crusaders - yep, I remember it well.  Also, I divorced a man who later on became born again and now we cannot have ONE conversation without him bringing that aspect of life into the convo.


Really bothers me too........geesh.


there are *weird psychos* in EVERY religion...

I so respect everyone's religion but I am appalled by religious fanatics...the ones who go wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy overboard and I think misinpret Bibles.......taking things to the EXTREME.....


fanatics, extremists - nope, cannot deal with them....and shouldn't have to but I notice each religion has so many different levels and sects - it's almost like different religions within each separate religion....I get some of that....but not all of it....


*scratches head quizzically* because I'm a live and let live type of person and so it's difficult to understand why EVERYONE doesn't let everyone live and let live.....


Not the right term to use here. Amen against religion?nm
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I also know of one religion that helps out community
they actually pay back some in taxes to communities where there is a volunteer fire department, etc., precisely because they benefit from such services.
No, it is an inferance and any teaching of religion -sm
should be done by the parents. I had my kids in private school up until 2 years ago, took them out for several reasons, one being that many of the teachers were teaching about God and making them pray before every meal (snack and lunch). I was paying $12K a year for my kids not to be in a church school, as this was not a religious school (or at least not supposed to be). I could have sent them to many, many cheaper schools in the area but they were all church affiliated. Some of us don't want our kids to be taught by others. I explain all the different religions to my kids, but don't want some outsider to teach their beliefs to my child. It is not their business to teach religion, if they want to do that then become a minister and run a church.
i beg to differ. I wish i had freedom FROM religion
I get treated by a leper because I am athiest.

Are you rejecting religion and the Bible or God?

I have problems myself with organized religion; however, I have personal proof of life after death, which leads me to believe in a Creator.  Just curious about where you're coming from.


I know the catholic religion has guidelines

that my religion, Methodist, don't have as I have relatives that have converted so they can get married.  I think in my cousin's case, he did not want to jump through all those hoops and was thinking about getting married by a methodist preacher.   That priest told them that if they do that, but then his wife-to-be would loose her place in the church, meaning she could still go but she could not, participate in ceremonies, make decisions for the church etc.,  because she would not be considered married and living in sin. 


Anyway, I think your dd and future SIL should get a 2nd opinion from another priest.  But, you should remember too that this is their battle.  If they are big enough to get married, they are big enough to fight their own battles.  If they truly want to be married than they will and this is pretty much small potatoes. 


Sounds like a conservative religion. Mennonite
perhaps? They are less conservative than Amish, but very conservative - skirts and meeting in homes being my only clues. But that said - normally any conservative "religion" also does not approve of divorce no matter what - save adultery. And I have heard that some conservative "reconstructionist" groups do not even support divorce under those circumstances either - sounds like the wife is playing some games. Very sad, and I'm sorry for you folks, too. Divorce hurts everyone.
Didn't say you couldn't talk about religion
She just said to take it to the Christianity Boards and keep it off the Gab Board. I had no problem with it, but the we're not in charge, the modertor/adminstrator is.
Isn't it illegal to fire someone for observing their own religion? nm
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Haven't you heard? Freedom of religion isn't for...SM

Christians.  It's for everyone else.  Sure a Muslim can pray in this country anytime they want, heck you can worship satan himself or practice witchcraft, but a be a Christian and actually admit you are one, let alone pray or read your Bible in public... come on, are you serious?  You know every Christian has a secret agenda.  We're just proselytizing little brainwashed fools.  We're not just praying quietly to ourselves -- we are praying God will send a lightening bolt and strike all the unbelievers.  We Christians aren't just placing our Bibles on our desks to read during our breaks -- we HOPE to beat someone over the head with it at some point during the day.


Freedom of religion has been twisted by the liberal spin doctors.  It only applies to to those who think like them.... ironic isn't it?


"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them." -- Lenny Bruce


 


Also try reading about comparative religion and myth - sm
I recommend The Power of Myth (book and series of specials on PBS) with Joseph Campbell. Interesting stuff. The search for the meaning of life is world-wide and Christianity is certainly not the only belief system out there, nor organized religion in general for that matter!
Religion is not the only means to spirituality or vice versa (SM)
They certainly do exist together for many people, but they do exist exclusive of each other for others. An atheist can be the most spiritual person on the block over his or her religious peers. Spirituality is a concept that is different for each person. It is what makes a person feel they are at the right place at the right time, like they are at peace, or whatever someone decides for themself is their truth.

Think outside the box!
Yes, but Indian's from India are not Muslim. They are of the Hindu religion. sm
they also believe in reincarnation and not the Koran.

They do treat women as a much lower class, though.
Doesn't matter what religion they are, the Indians treat
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That's what I LOVE about America. Freedom of Religion, speech, etc. But sm
I have to say, if you are an atheist (I am a Christian, BTW), where is your moral "compass" (sorry for the pun) I was an atheist for many, many years (3/4 of my life spent without God or religion). In that time I was: Suicidal, desperate, a liar, a phony, had no direction in life, a slander and just about everything else worldly you could think of. I was selfish..must I go on?
Then, when I hit rock bottom I had no where to look but up. He was there (God). He placed me upon a rock and I've never looked back or down since. I can honestly say I no longer lie or think bad thoughts about other people. I have a clear direction for my life. I do follow Biblical principles and obey His laws. I have a moral compass and a value system I am so proud of. As an atheist there was no right or wrong in my life. Since I didn't fear God I did basically whatever I felt was good or right, even believe in abortion. I am being totally transparent with you, from one ex-atheist to another atheist.

How do you explain a radical life change such as myself? Where do you draw your line of morality from? God says abortion is wrong and so it's wrong. God says a gay lifestyle is an abomination, and so it is. Don't get mad at me, It's in His Word. He said it. Not me.

Anyways, I think that there is much to be said about living a good Christian lifestyle and following its beliefs. My life is in clear order now instead of chaos. I have a life-long goal - to make it to heaven and take those whom I love with me.

What a sad, sad life I led before God. Wow. Like the old saying goes, "I never want to go back to my old life." Good luck to you.


Bigger issue - a 16 year old living withi a 29 year old and liability
Are you still not responsible for him until he is 18, how can he tell you where he will live?  Unless he emancipates himself and he does something wrong, can they go against you since you are his mother and legally responsible for him?  I worry more about him living with a 29 year old sister rather than returning a house key to me that is a bigger issue.