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I see nothing wrong with prayer...sm

Posted By: blondie_1147 on 2008-05-05
In Reply to: original poster of prayer sentence information - Ellie

If a doctor prays with a patient then I think that is fine if the patient is okay with it. As MTs it is our job to type whatever they dictate. So if they dictate about praying we should just type it and not worry about it. It is a job.
Why shouldn't it be part of the report. It is the doctor's report for that patient. If the patient is okay with it it is not for you as the MT, in my opinion, to decide hey this doesn't belong here. The doctor wouldn't have dictated it if he didn't want it in the report. And I believe when a doctor dictates something it is your job to type it. Don't ask questions, just type, unless it is something you have been trained not to type.
I say even if you don't agree with it and if you don't that by all means is your right as an American citizen. But if he wants it in the report just put it and be done with it.


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What is wrong with prayer, and what rule are you talking about?

Many people have different beliefs and it is not just Christians who pray.  I would greatly respect any doctor, no matter what his religious beliefs, who takes a moment to acknowledge the importance of the task before him and that he can use a little help from above.  We humans, no matter how hard we try, are imperfect. Why are you so offended by someone who prays? And as for a rule ... maybe you are thinking about prayer in schools that is not allowed. 


Let me guess ... you are not offended by the doctor who cusses up a storm in his reports, or are you looking up rules for that one too!


 


wrong, wrong, wrong. work is being outsourced because of $. period. not because of unqualified MTs
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Prayer
I how well I know the pain of grief. I will pray for your friends
prayer
He is going on my church prayer line now too!
prayer

Praying for your requests also.  I also had a very dear friend with ovarian cancer; seems that is something is pretty far along before the symptoms start, or, it was in her case.  Bless you!


Prayer

Please rush me a photograph of the child please send me an email for my address etc.


believer


saying a prayer for you
nm
Prayer for 4-year-old boy

I just did pray for him.  Please let us know how he is doing, so we can see the result of our prayers.


Thanks.


Lynn


Nice. Will say a prayer for you both.
and Happy Easter to you and yours. You have your hearts in the Right Place. We have lots to be thankful for.
I do not think her issue was with prayer...

I believe what she meant was that she had never heard this dictated before; therefore, she was questioning it.  She was not questioning whether it is okay for a physician to pray with his patient. 


Wow---chill out everyone! OP said nothing against prayer or
it was allowed in a report.

It's no different than asking if typing someone "makes her money on her back" is appropriate. It's not the subject itself---it's whether or not it should be in a medical document because it's not medical. My answer is yes...if the doc dictates it then you put it in. There have been plenty of things over the years I would've left it, but you just put it in.

There's no reason for these attacks on her though...she didn't say anything was wrong with prayer. She didn't say she didn't tolerate anything Christian.

Everyone is WAY, WAY to defensive on this. She could very well be Christian herself, but you don't know that because she didn't say one way or another and didn't say it was good or bad.
Prayer mention
Why is it that no one has any questions as to the mention of abortions or homosexuality or selling sex in any way, but we question a mention of prayer. Christians are supposed to be tolerant of freedom of speech but we no longer have it it seems. We are supposed to accept differences in cultures but we are not allowed to pray in school openly, but homosexuals for example can kiss and hold hands in schools. I am a very tolerant person I just wonder why things like prayer are not tolerated but rather some kind of violation or "no way" type of thought to others who may not believe. And before anyone blasts me I have friends that are very dear to my heart that are gay both female and male, and have atheist and pagan friends. I believe that we all have the right to believe the way we do and express ourselves freely. I am only sorry that we are looking for "rules" to avoid the mention of prayer.
How do you know they said a Christian prayer?
It is very possible that both the patient and physician are Muslims. You are only assuming it was Christian prayer and getting your panties in a knot based on that assumption.
Christian prayer
I know because I know the docs personally. I am a paramedic and have also worked as a nurse in several docs offices.
A Prayer for the New Year

As the dawn breaks on a new year, let us give thanks for all we hold dear: our health, our family and our friends. 


Let us release our grudges, our anger and our pains, for these are nothing but binding chains. Let us live each day in the most loving ways, the God-conscious way. Let us serve all who are in need, regardless of race, color or creed.


Let us keep God of our own understanding in our hearts and to chant God’s name each day. Let us lead the world from darkness to light, from falsehood to truth and from wrong to right.


Let us remember that we are all one, embracing all, discriminating against none.


May your year be filled with peace, prosperity and love. May God's blessings shower upon you and bestow upon each of you a bright, healthy and peaceful new year.


URGENT PRAYER REQUEST

Please pray for our little dog, Fluffy,  who is in the hospital right now and on oxygen.  We just came from there and he is having a lot of difficulty breathing.  He has swelling on his spinal cord and they are unable to do additional testing to find out why because of this complication.  Please everyone say a prayer for him that his breathing stabilizes and they can find out what the problem is. 


Thank you and God Bless


Thanks to everyone for the advice and offer of prayer - sm
How ironic is this. S works in a mental health unit but they don't see children. The psychologist that Tater does see works with children but I think her 20+ years of experience is missing this particular type of behavior counseling.

Still hoping I will hear back from this doctor I wrote to last night to see if she has any advice to offer too.
Danny's on my prayer list
I'm so sorry to hear this happened.  How tragic.  I will keep Danny and his family and you -his good friend - in my prayers.  Best of wishes to all of you. 
I am glad you are doing well. Prayer does work

Mention of prayer in reports
I have never run across this problem in the past.  I have a provider stating "we took a few minutes to lift everything up in prayer."  My gut says NO WAY.  But, I can't find a rule to support that.  HELP!
mention of prayer in reports
As mentioned everyone has the right to believe what they want - even Christians. There are several surgeons in this town who pray before beginning surgery. I think it is great, both ways for them and the patient.
Post on prayer board ???

Is that for real? Is it someone here or was that a fwd that was posted? A few things jumped out at me as being inconsistent with the situation presented.


 


No magazine. It's from me. You're first on the prayer list though!
:)
The auesome power of prayer at work
once again! Sorta puts all our little gripes in perspective.
putting that precious little guy on my prayer chains right now! nm
nm
It reads like a response to a prayer request.
I will keep your thoughts in mind...
For those that now the power of prayer, please pray for a friend whose 4-year-old son is in the sm
hospital with bleeding on the brain.  She is employed in the MT field and really needs our support right now.  TIA.
question, but prayer shouldn't be a problem in dictation.
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original poster of prayer sentence information
I am the originator of the post on typing a sentence regarding praying with a patient.  I don't care that he did it one way or the other.  My concern was that I did not believe that it should be part of a dictated medical report.  We don't add patient names.  We carefully word sentences so that the patient is not denigrated in the process and patient care not impacted.  This is not relative to patient care, in my opinion.  I have been doing this job a long time and never had anything like that mentioned in a note before now.  Not at hospitals with definite religious affiliations.  Not when typing for a physician and his staff that regularly do it.  So, I asked a question here.  Based on the responses, it will be the last time I do.  Yes, I do "question' everything I haven't typed before by verifying the word, disease, medication, etc. 
I typed a report on the wrong patient as the doc keyed in the wrong info, SM
He later said the correct patient's name and I SWEAR to this day I made the changes but somehow the report when through without the correct patient and changes made. I still remember that incident.
May God bless the miners trapped in West Virginia. There is power in prayer. Let's rally MTs!

Fantasia wrong??? Haven't seen the OP's CD, couldn't have been too wrong.
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It's about morality - not censorship! Right is right and wrong is wrong!
nm
As far as it being wrong, well who defines right and wrong? On the
other hand, what if he were doing the same thing? How would you feel? I think that should answer your question.
You SUPPOSE it was wrong! It was way wrong.
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you are wrong
it is harder to prosecute someone in a murder trial w/o a body, but not impossible.  It is a case that would be based on circumstantial evidence.  Perfectly legal and done before.
YOU TOOK THAT UP WRONG
I have lectured her. She knows we are against it. My husband and I do not drink at all. What I was saying is she can sit here and tell me she is not drinking which she has said she does not but I know better. I know every kid drinks at collegea and no I don't like it. I know her room mate drinks and my daughter has told me. There is nothing I can do about it if she is at college 100 miles away. She clains she does not drink. She has been told she has to pay the consequences if something happens. I tell her not to drink but if she does it won't be my fault because she should know better. I can lecture her at home by not allowing it in my home. I know a few of her home friends drink and I have told her if the parents ask me if it is so I will not lie. Obviously you don't have teenagers. Also Natalie's parents could have lectured her to about drinking but obviously she did it anyway.
WRONG AGAIN
to 'study and show thyself approved...rightly dividing the word of Truth'.


Well, I don't think you are doing anything wrong ...
I've been with these companies 3-1/2 and 2-1/2 years.

Do you know which accounts at your company are large or have a lot of overtime? I would ask to be put onto a super large hospital account as a primary. Being a large hospital account and/or overtime requirements will tell you how much work is usually there.

I have been very fortunate on my accounts but I asked for large hospital accounts up front for that very reason....????
Ur wrong...
Been an MT for 10 years and with MQ for 8...so much for assuming...
please, if you think something is wrong...sm
do whatever you can to get the person help. My nephew was bipolar/scitzophrenic (s/p?) and we didn't know until it was too late.  Please try to help this person...it's hard to live with the consequences if you don't. Good luck and I will be praying for you and your friend.
Wrong!
I will take it to heart if it is from the administrator.  The post was addressed to her.
what's wrong with me
I'm wondering what's wrong with me too.  I just did 50 exams and realized I put the date of service 8-15-04 on all of them.  Fessed up when I realized.  I try to work when I don't feel well and this is what happens.  Darn.
No, you are wrong
They have known about this being a potential disaster since Betsy in 1963, but since it was such a monumental task, and people in, for example, Washington State or Idaho, (just an example folks) would not have wanted their tax dollars being spent to fix the levees in New Orleans, and the senators and congressmen in these other 51 states wouldn't push it, because it was not a popular thing to do. 
You are wrong!
Your eyes are mistaking - She never got out of her lawn chair - it is stuck to her butt because she is so darn fat and she can barely run at all, it is more of like a wobble, wobble, wobble!
She's wrong, isn't she? You and I and everyone else
knows that. MQLover is wrong to be ugly and make assumptions.

She will never win the Nobel Peace Prize or even any type of Employee of the Year award with her abrasiveness. It's uncalled for. It really just shows her ugliness inside.

I'm a supporter of MQ; I don't agree with all they have done or will do but in general I've had a good relationship with them. It is difficult for me to hear some of the nastiness from complainers. It's one thing to state clearly and plainly what a problem is, it is another to do the name-calling, etc. Both sides are doing it now. It's sad.

The BEST plan of action for those who are upset with MQ, though, is to do what another poster suggested in an above thread --- go to the Employee Complaint Form on QNet and fill it out. Swamp them with those complaints. Have them swamped with complaints.

No changes can come about if MQ isn't directly contacted about the complaints.

I hope everyone can take a breather, relax, and allow each others opinions but be more respectful in their statements.

Have a good day, everyone.
Don't take this the wrong way, but
you're getting yourself all worked up over something you don't even know to be true.  Shhhh, deep breaths.  No worries.  Everything will work out in the end.  Even if MQ eliminates SE, what's the worst thing that could happen?  So you go job hunting or switch to employee status.  There are tons of IC and SE jobs out there with companies that are way better than MQ.  I can relate, though.  I've got three kids and a mortgage.  Honestly, there are so many MT jobs out there that you can quit a job one day and start working again the next day for another.  I understand that you have security and longevity with MQ, and the unknown is a scary thing.  However, you need to stop worrying and imagining the worst.  You're a good worker, right?  Do you think they're just going to dump you with no notice?  Why don't you talk to your supervisor?  Ask her straight out what's going to happen.  You are allowed to know how these new changes are going to affect you.  In the meantime, stop catastrophizing and make yourself a nice cup of tea.  It'll be all right.
Nothing wrong
with having 6 accounts or 7, 8 and so on but WHEN THERE IS NO WORK ON ANY OF THEM what do you do? Still sitting here waiting to work and NOTHING. There is something wrong with this picture.
Nothing wrong?
Boy, you don't get it do you and yet you continue to bicker. No work IS the problem and only getting from your 5th, 6th, etc. when you get the scatter report means that there are too many people on the accounts. That is the point.
Wrong again!
After the ER visit.  I went to 'see Alice'.  She did a better job taking care of me than you could ever do.  I called you after I left her and told you 'she' made me see stars.
WRONG
Not getting paid for spaces. They just tell you that they do, but they are lying