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ILLEGAL WORKERS

Posted By: nana on 2007-07-03
In Reply to: Reminds me again of having - our pool iinstalled.

Good for you, glad your experience worked out. Mine didn't. I got a bid for our lawn, which is huge, from a local landscaper, it (the bid) was huge. Unbeknownst to me, my dh had ordered sod and had a delivery date. Someone called from the landscaper with a revised bid ($400.00 cheaper) and I said okay, and took it because the sod was on its way the following day, no cancellations allowed (it was a whop-load, like four truck trailers). I cold not afford to lose all that money. I took the bid, not knowing what else to do and low and behold a mass of people showed up with the truck and guess who they were? Right! I was totally out of my element and just backed up out of the way as huge machine things sent the sod rolling off the trucks and these guys all grabbed some and started rolling it out. Four hours later, the foreman from the landscape company showed up and these evidently were "his men" who showed up (complete with children and dogs and yes, they did want beverages, etc). These kids ran rampant all over the place with little to no supervision. Seems the foreman was stabbing his employer in the back and did this frequently. He is a citizen, but his workers are not. Most ended up being his relatives. Never again! This is my one personal experience with this and I know that it goes on all the time from a neighbor who is a contractor. So, I still blame illegals and people who foster illegals. They need to go home and leave us to ours. I was railroaded that day and others are too. Be careful who you talk to at landcaping companies.


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Unions may be good for workers short-term, but look what has happened to American car union workers.
They priced themselves out of the market while making an inferior product. Ford and GM are now junk bonds. I'm driving a Toyota. So if that's un-American just like shopping at a non-union store like Walmart, well you can talk to whoever is in charge of wages and taxes who have created this monster where even middle-class has very little extra money to support a union store where the employees are paid well and you pay the price in the product they sell. I can't afford it.
Like most of the MQ workers lately.

One of my co-workers had a (sm)
similar situation, only it involved her entire family. She was adopted as an infant by these people and they never let her forget it. It finally got to the point that she told a dear friend that she was planning to cut off all contact because she couldn't see putting herself or her children through it anymore. That dear friend and his wife adopted her at the age of 40!!
It's not illegal
There is no law against surfing the net. You can have Vonage if your internet is considered high speed. There is another company called zerocents.com that is very reasonable and the quality is about the same as Vonage. Most regular phone carriers off some type of unlimited plan. Ours for Verizon was an extra 10. a month, an extra 30. for Southern Bell.
It's actually illegal for them to....sm

hold your check unless you  signed an employment agreement at the beginning stating that you agreed to these terms. 


Most employers I know of pay for the return shipping. 


There is nothing illegal about
requiring 40 hours a week to be a full-time employee. Nothing whatsoever. You may not like that, but it IS legal. There is nothing illegal about requiring you to use PTO for time not worked.

I don't know if you are the original poster who began this thread, but the attitude of that post was that a 40-hour requirement is a problem. It isn't. You may not like it because you've been accustomed to less, but it is not a problem it is a standard. The original post for this thread has shed a light of doom, implying that things are just getting out of control and that MQ is asking more than they should of you by setting a 40-hour standard. Well, that's simply not true. It may be more than you're willing to commit to and, if so, then you should leave MQ. Otherwise, you'll just have to go along with it.

You may feel like all things are done to spite you with MQ, or other companies, but you're not thinking very logically if that is your take. If MQ doesn't have MTs, they will not be in business. However, they have to have a standard of what they can offer in exchange for your skills. If that exchange isn't good for you, then you don't have to accept it.

No one has forced anyone to work for this company. You made a choice to go with them. You've made a choice to stay with them if you are still there. You can make a choice to leave them if you want to.

Working from home has been a privilege. Some seem to believe that it in itself is standard but think again. Nurses don't work from home; physicians don't work from home; factory workers don't work from home; car salesmen don't work from home; fast food workers don't work from home, etc. We are a very privileged few who have this option.

What the original poster has stated is simply just the standard being set.

I guarantee you there is and will be a mechanism to protect you in occasional and unforeseen circumstances that might interfere with the normal expectation of a 40-hour commitment. However, just as with inhouse employees in every other industry, if you continually fail to meet that obligation without reason, without documentation of why, then you will be out a job. I have no doubt...that is how it is supposed to work.

You ask who I really am? I'm an MT. I've done this over 20 years. I've owned an MT business; I've worked as an employee and an IC; I've worked in hospitals, clinics, for medical research entities, for MT companies. I'm not in management. I'm not an editor. I'm not in QA. I work the same as you and the others here.

I don't defend illegal activities. I also don't see anything illegal happening here. Maybe it is taking away an advantage you have had and become accustomed to, but it nothing less than the standard for the rest of the world. If that bothers you, if you think you deserve more than the rest of the world, I suppose you are going to be sorely disappointed. I hate that for you.

As I've said before, MQ and other companies will never make many of you happy. If you have the ideal situation in your mind of what you want and need, then go find it. If you cannot find it anywhere, you'll have to create it. You can do it.

To sit here and complain over something that (1) you will not act on in a professional, mature, and accepted way to change (i.e., filling out a complaint form and documenting the problem), (2) causes others to become distressed, panicked, and/or overly concerned about something that you personally just don't like, and (3) insinuating that MTs have been done "wrong" with "illegal" activities by their employers IS whining. It is baseless. It is useless. It provides no constructive action. It only serves to keep others (who fall for it) in the same emotional turmoil you are in...and no one ever said it more true than with the old addage, "misery loves company."

That is illegal
They cannot legally call you after 9pm or before 8am. You need to call and report them. I can't remember exactly who you report those things to, but they can be fined big bucks. And if they are just a call center working for your CC company, both companies can be fined. Check the TCPA Act. If nothing else, maybe you can get enough money out of it to pay off the bill completely and tell them to shove it LOL

Illegal???

I've been an MT for quite a few years.  I just started a new job at a hospital where my lead has been "making up" reports.


For instance:  Medical records contacts her about a missing report.  She cannot find that it was ever dictated.  Instead of telling medical records that it was never dictated, she takes the patient chart, gleans the information from it and "makes up a report". 


Isn't this illegal?  And, if so, do I do anything about it?  I'm new at this job and I don't want to appear to be a tattletale.  And anyway, maybe medical records knows about it and is okay with it - then what?


illegal
I worked for a home care agency and a nurse in a MD office apparently did the same thing - well the patient ended up dying - by no fault of the MD - but the nurses note that she made up when she lost the original neglected some pretty darn important information and the family sued stating the work was not done - You meed to tell someone - when the crap hits the fan - it will be everyone who gets it not just the person creating information
MYs have far too much responsibility to let this go - we all want to be respected, and paid for our job - and keeping things legal is a very important part of this.
Indian workers
I was obvious they were Indian workers from Indian..Every one of them that I talked to had an Indian accent..I have nothing wrong with American workers with accents..but I called at least eight people to get my internet account straightened out and all had Indian accents..Come on now, I cannot believe eight people are of Indian descent all working at the billing department of my internet account..If you are American of first descent and working IN America, more power to you..if the account is sent overseas, I have a major problem with that..and if you dont have a problem with that, contact me in a few years when our jobs are overseas.
MTs/factory workers
I'm sure many younger and maybe even older MTs might not agree with this, so if you do, I'll be pleasantly surprised. The "how many lines per hour can you do?" mentality so prevalent in medical transcription today is not a good thing for this profession. This belittles the professionalism of the job we do, a profession which requires immense medical knowledge and skill, a fact which, sadly, no one in hospital administration or other positions of management have a clue about and really don't want to know about, else they would have to monetarily compensate us for the professionals we really are. The sad fact is that like a frog being killed by slowly upping the temperature of the water in which he is immersed, without his being aware of the change in temperature, we have by an analagous method slowly but surely become no more than skilled factory workers. X-ray techs, nurses, physical therapists, and other professionals are not evaluated on the basis of the number of patients they take care of each day but on how well they take care of these patients, so why are we evaluated on the basis of how many lines of transcription we can do per hour or day rather than the quality and accuracy of the reports we transcribe? It used to be our responsibility as MTs to put the patient first, to give the appropriate time to research any questions we have regarding the physician's dictation on a particular patient and to make sure we get it right for the sake of the patient, but now it has become the focus of our profession to see many lines per hour we can transcribe. This mentality leads to just trying to produce lines rather than trying to transcribe accurate medical reports. It is my firm opinion that we should not be paid by the line but by the hour, and unfortuantely, AAMT has not been there to represent us in this very relevant issue. If we are so professional as they espouse, then why don't they try to get on track and reverse this trend? In my opinion, AAMT has failed us. They have been so focused on style issues, which are of far less significance than medical accuracy and have caused many of us to boil inside because of the attention given to these really mostly irrelevant issues, that the crux of our problems has escaped them. They have been in absentia and have not been focusing on the issue of getting health care facilities and transcription companies to recognize us for the professionals we are and elevating our pay scale to the level it should be. I have been an MT for over 20 years, so I've seen the negative changes as they've slowly but surely transpired through the years. Perhaps it's time for me to leave the profession altogether because I just can't deal with this "factory productivity" mentality.
MTs/factory workers

There are many ways of sifting the chaff from the wheat.  It doesn't take long to figure out those who are goofing off versus the ones who are researching to transcribe accurate medical reports.  There also other means of monitoring MTs at home if one feels the necessity to be monitored.  Also, there are ways to clock in and out on a pay-per-hour basis. One is via dial-up method and entering one's ID number into a designated system. 


As for being paid for the amount one does versus being paid hourly I would only ask, would you want someone rushing through your H&P, your child's H&P,  or the H&P or other report of any loved one just to get a certain number of lines a day, possibly listing an allergy to the wrong medication or listing the wrong extremity or wrong eye designated for a surgical procedure?  I have transcribed for many, many years and there have been innumerable times that I have had to correct mistakes by physicians who have dictated the wrong extremity, the wrong eye, the wrong medication, the wrong drug allergies, etc., etc.  I for one wouldn't want someone transcribing that I'm allergic to Namenda when I'm really allergic to Augmentin, and it's easy to see how these two medications could be misunderstood if the physician dictating isn't articulate enough, if the quality of the dictation system is poor, or if one is in just too big a hurry to produce lines to care.  I do pray if I am ever a patient in a hospital that the MT who does my report gets it right.  With such emphasis on line counts, it's no wonder we have patients who have had their only "good eye" or "good extremity" removed surgically.


Not true. And they pay their workers well &
http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/costco.asp
Workers Compensation
Have any of you who are employees of a national company ever had to file for WC due to hands that just won't work anymore?  I need to get carpal tunnel surgery but can't afford to make zero dollars while I'm off.  I don't want to start accumulating medical bills or alert my company until I've done my research.
Workers Compensation
I did workers' compensation claims in my pre MT life.  If MD says it is work related, should be no problem being covered.  Depending on what state you live in, there is probably a waiting period that you would not be paid for until you are off for a certain number of days.  State laws dictates the % you are paid of your average weekly wage based on a minimum and maximum rate.  Do not wait too long to get your CTS taken care of.  You could cause more problems with your hands if you wait too long. 
Workers' Compensation and the ER
I thought the correct order of things would be for him to be seen regardless of where or how it happened, and the Workers' Compensation part handled after the fact. What would they have done if he'd been hurt more severely? I thought they'd (WC) reimburse whatever out-of-pocket expenses you have once the insurance claim is settled. The boss was definitely trying to set him up, which is disgusting. The funny part is that he actually gave your husband ammunition for an even more complicated lawsuit, should it come to that.
problens with co-workers

Does anyone know of a good way to get my co-workers to be quiet?  I swear there is this one who if something sets her off we hear about it for the next 4 hours (no kidding).  Then others get involved and come into the office and try to say their piece.  It is so hard to concentrate and get a decent line count.  The quality of my work is suffering.  I got a report back the other day with some embarrassing typos in it.  I don't get paid hourly I get paid on production.  I need to make more than 1003 lines a day to make it worth my trip up there.  I was making 1300 lines a day when working from home but then they pulled me in house because they didn't like my internet connection.  Complaining to the supervisor  doesn't do any good as there was a girl that did that and it just made everyone mad and they talk ugly about her.  help!


Workers' comp for IC? Where to get?
I am an IC and have just been told I need to have WC Insurance. Where do I get it? Thanks for your help. suzq
Any MTs out there w/Workers' Comp. (sm)
eval transcription experience in Ortho, Neurology and/or Neurosurgery?   How many years' experience do you have, and for which state?  I'm wondering if it's a hard transition for someone with non-Workers' Comp Rad experience to transition to Ortho, etc. in WC.
IC Workers Compensation
Having come from being a workers compensation claim represenatative in my prior life, unfortunately you do need to carry your own coverage as an IC. 
This is what happens to workers when companies
If we just sit on our rears and let them, they'll happily keep on doing it. If all U.S. MTs (AND the editors who fix the Indians' stuff) were to stop work for just ONE week, do you think the offshores alone, without us to do the hard stuff and clean up their messes, could cut it and keep the hospitals happy? I think not. Food for thought.
The construction workers are not all

People in the construction business do require certain licenses.  They are not all uneducated making $30.00 an hour. 


New MTs should be on this board so they can get a reality check.  If you plan to stay in this field, just be cautioned that will not make more unless you transcribe more lines and put in more hours.  That's the bottom line and I'm speaking from 20 years of experience and I'm in my late 30s still raising two children along with my husband.


Illegal? Hahaha
Your so-called contract was a statement of what your rate would be at that time. It did not guarantee you any specific amount of work nor pay for any specified length of time.

Go seek help! Go seek an attorney! Throw more of the money you're losing to a cause you won't win.

It's disheartening, I agree. Spheris has done it...know what? They're still in business and they still have great MTs (along with the pitiful ones as well). A few jumped ship when it happened; some came back. New ones came on board. The company moved on and is doing better.

That is what will happen here. I'm not trying to downplay your reaction -- you are right to feel upset about it. But please, please don't waste more of what you are losing by seeking help where you won't find it.

Regarding the F9 feature -- absolutely no company is required to charge clients and pay employees on the same definition...and yes, there is a difference - it is called making a profit. If MQ (or any other MT company) wants to charge clients for a flat rate, a per-minute rate, a per-line rate, a combination of flat rate per report + lines, etc., but pay their MTs only a 65-character line...then that is their right. It isn't any MTs business what/how MQ charges their clients. That's business, period. Not just this industry either.

It IS your business that you be paid what you agreed to under your "contract". However, since they have adjusted their pay scale, that "contract" is null. You have the right not to accept it by quitting. You have as much right to nullify that contract as they do.

This is an exchange -- skills and services for money. If either party doesn't care for how the other is conducting/upholding their end, or if circumstances change, either party can leave. It is called employment at will.

Please, save yourself the money at least. Work on healing the heartache of it.
Oh, yes! Illegal drugs are fun!
I never even did drugs when I was a stupid teenager.
alcohol was illegal once too
Alcohol was illegal at one time too..Marijuana should be legalized, there is no reason not to legalize it.  It will be legalized one day soon, Im sure.  It is less harmful than alcohol.
It's illegal for a company to not...sm
make special accommodations for anyone who is disabled to help them work. 
Yeah, but I LIKE being illegal!
Seriously, to me the whole issue of songs being illegal to download for free is dumb - music belongs to the people, not the record labels. And after being ripped off by all these labels for 30 years since I started buying records at ridiculous prices, I don't feel any guilt at all if I AM ripping off the record companies. These companies just don't like the advent of the Internet, but too bad - its the wave of the future!
Just say your an illegal immigrant
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It is not illegal. Could be harmful for the
employer-employee relationship, but not illegal.

There is no federal or state mandate that you receive any paid time off at all. It is completely at the company's discretion. Their policies on eligibility, accrual, disbursement and forfeiture are completely the company's own decisions.

Let me say this, however, in defense of companies with paid time off plans: The smartest plan of action you, as an employee, can take is to do a little planning and keep your paid time off balance low by taking it. If you wait until the end of the year, you do risk losing it if your company does not pay out accrued but unused paid time off. However, many companies do not pay for accrued but unused time; if you do not take it, you forfeit it. It is not intended as additional income but as a means of taking a rest from work while maintaining your regular income. It is a "benefit". You are better off taking it, planning on what you expect to have available, and keep the balance low or caught up.

In all honesty, having owned 2 business (1 MTSO and 1 non-MT business), my employees were well aware of how much paid time off they could count on and, despite warnings that we would still have staffing responsibilities to maintain, some would wait until the end of the year to take it. I felt absolutely no need to compensate them for not planning and taking a benefit I offered. It was not designed to give them extra income. I offered it as a benefit so they could take days off without losing income.
Illegal records
I worked for a hospital years ago and sometimes the dictation did not come through our system correctly even though the doc knew he dictated it. We had several docs who absolutely REFUSED to re-dictate, stating they dictated once and that was it. Several times, I personally had charts out of the hospital (which would scare me now to do this) at my boss' request and made up or gleaned from the chart the discharge summary. This was an orthopedic doc that I also worked for, by the way, so I practically knew what he was going to say before he said it. Several of us did quite a few charts like this as some of the docs WOULD NOT, absolutely WOULD NOT re-dictate and we needed the discharge summary and/or op report in the report. Scary or not, we did it. Don't know as I would do it now, though.
That is so illegal. My hubby is sm
also in health care administration. If the doctors don't dictate their charts, they are put on suspension I don't know how ANYONE could think that an MT has the right to "glean" information from a chart and make up a discharge summary.

That is absolutely totally nauseating to me that someone would "make up" a dictation! That is coming from an MT with a chronic illness and many hospitalizations! That is the scariest thing I have ever heard of.

MTs are not doctors and why any MT would take that kind of risk is beyond me. I would call Risk Management if it meant losing my job, but no way would I sit back and watch that go on.

I don't know what has happened in this profession in the last 30 years, but this is ridiculous. Unbelievable!
illegal aliens
A burglar is not an uninvited house guest. A car jacker is not an underrated driver. A bank robber is not making an unauthorized withdrawal. And illegal aliens are not undocumented immigrants. Let's not sugarcoat things. The correct terminology for the nearly 20 million people illegaly in the US is illegal aliens. By definition an alien is a person who comes from a foreign country. Thus an illegal alien.
It's not the foreign workers who are at fault sm

The fault lies with the big US corporations who are the greedy SOBs that have outsourced the jobs so they can save billions over what they would pay workers in the US. 


So, to be rude to and cuss out these working people is not going to get us anywhere.  What we should do is boycott the corporations who are sending the work overseas.  Maybe if they lose enough business they will get smart to themselves and bring the jobs back to the US workers. 


But how many female construction workers??
nm
I was a workers' comp historian in a
hand surgeon's office for two years. He and the hand therapist always said that regular breaks from the keyboard were important to prevent overuse injuries. I saw many cases of permanent disability in computer users who overdid it, and it's not worth it.
Workers' comp can be interesting
depending on the doctor's speciality, but you could get bored very quickly if it's orthopedics. However, you'll never know if they don't send you any work. I would start looking again. Good luck.
question for statutory workers
What percentage would you recommend setting aside from each check to cover your taxes?  thanks.
Question for night workers.....

How do you get your sleep?  I generally get to bed around 3:00 a.m., and need at least 8 or 9 good hours of sleep in order to function the next day.  I set my alarm clock for 11:30, but generally am awake before I ever have to turn it off due to some kind of noise outside.  I sleep with my TV on low and a fan on.  Over the last year or so I have noticed more and more noise in the neighborhood, owners renting out their houses to young people who love LOUD music in their homes and cars, televisions loud enough I could be watching the movie if I could see their screen, things like that.  It used to be kids outside on weekends playing ball and what not, but now it is actually adults making all the noise, very unneccesary noise.  Do they think they don't have neighbors?  Or that the rest of us are as deaf as they are going to end up?  Why is it people just don't care anymore? 


I live in a house, not an apartment.  One of the reasons I bought a house is to escape the noise of the neighbors.  My question is, would any of you actually resort to calling the police on a neighbor if they were constantly disturbing your peace?  There is a noise ordinance where I live, and the police are great at taking care of it, it's just the feeling I would have of actually calling the police on a neighbor.  But at the same time, the neighbors are not respecting me, right? 


Last summer I did go door to door trying to see if people wanted to get together a neighborhood watch, told each person about my concerns with kids tearing down mail boxes, the noise, etc., so from that respect I gathered they all knew that people could hear their noise.  Not one person called to confirm they would be at the meeting, and it was cancelled.  Everyone just wants to do what they want to do.  I'm not going to resort to wearing ear plugs. What if the smoke alarm went off, or my emergency phone? 


I guess I'm just asking for opinions or similar stories to help me out.  Thanks for listening.


Transcriptions, you are saying, are unskilled workers?
I spent over a year training for this job. It took my total attention, I spent so much time in books be it the regular dictionary or medical books. I thought I could go right into transcribing because after all, I had worked in hospitals, medical offices and the like and if I were not a trained professional then, I do not know what it was. Very, very hard for me to understand the ESL physicians and most of the hospital dictators just that, training hospital. I was glad I kept it up but I in no way demean the profession I choose for myself but putting a slant on it like you have. I feel sorry for anyone thinking in this day and time they will be able to make a liveable salary because it would take more than 1 job to do that, a full and a part I would think. Our jobs started being outsourced and that is why the really lousy salaries now, I do not think has to do with being unskilled.
it is totally sad that garment workers
among others have already gone through this - I am not happy with any of it, but Chinese imports are starting to show some major problems that may end up costing us much more than they have saved us.  It is one thing to wear clothes from Taiwan - entirely another to have our medical records and personal information shipped to countries that are killing our soldiers and would (and have) use the information for monetary gain.  I try to buy local produce to support local farmers.  Why can't others do the same with us?  P.S.  I could make sure the T-shirts were made in America - there are a few places.
IC Workers Comp Ins. Required?
thought i posted this earlier, cant find it, sorry if its redundant.  Im an IC, have been for 8+ years with the same company in MASS.  I live in WV.  I was contacted last week and was told that the company had been audited and all IC's were required to have Workers Comp insurance.  the policy costs $655 a year.  anyone have this same requirement?  I have other insurance, Aetna major medical, additional accidental death and dismemberment, long-term disability through my husband's employer, AEP.  So, is it necessary for me to carry comp ins? 
Google domestic workers sue US
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Workers' comp insurance for IC

Does anyone know if there is a law in NY state that you have to have Workers' comp insurance as an IC?  I was told by one company that you do and they will not hire me until I have the insurance, but I also saw on this website


http://www.ins.state.ny.us/ogco2005/rg050315.htm that you only need insurance if you have employees, which I do not.  They company says that is incorrect.  Anyone have any idea?

 

Thanks

Unfortunately, this company has no shortage of workers.
I know they hired a few new grads after I turned down their offer. As long as someone will work for that, they have no incentive to raise rates. Companies now don't seem to care about experience and quality, only concerned with the $$$. They didn't care that I can transcribe 2000 lines a day with 99% accuracy. They would rather stick to their cpl and hire new grads. Well, good luck to them.
I think it's illegal too. I find it hard to believe
you've earned.  Talk to an attorney who specializes in employment law.
It is illegal if you found out someone's salary through
unauthorized methods, such as snooping in personnel files, but you can discuss your salary with others if you wish to. 
Illegal immigrants do it as well as their employers and....sm

they're oftentimes working "x" hours a week or even full-time. It's a big problem here in Georgia because it's not fair that these people not only get the jobs that they're being paid cash for but then they show up in the ERs when sick and are given Medicaid to pay the bill, even though they're not US citizens.  Their kids are given free education and right now the illegal immigrant groups are mad because the state of Georgia is planning to  start making them pay out of the country tuition to the universities if they aren't documented legal residents - which I think they should be forced to do.   Heck, if I were to get on a plane to say France I couldn't walk off the plane and demand that I be allowed into college at the local tuition rates just because I'm there - whether or not I were there legally.


  There's some legislation going forward in January here to put a stop to some of this but of course the illegal immigrant groups are fighting it.  


I don't mind paying someone cash if they're doing something rarely for me (i.e. once or twice a year).


For those of you who use say teenage babysitters do you really report every dime you give them to the IRS?    What about when you go to a restaurant and tip the wait staff in cash?  Do you make sure the  manager knows you gave them a cash tip so it's reported?   Ever have a neighborhood kid rake leaves for you?  Do you pay Little Johnny and then demand his SS# to report you gave him $20 to the IRS? 


 


 


 


In most states, if not all, it is illegal for a company
to charge you up-front for information about work, software necessary to work, etc.  They should do a payroll deduction, still doesn't guarantee they are a legitimate company though. 
How about the cops.....illegal drugs??? That should be
NM
This is totally illegal. You cannot deny an
individual the right to earn a living based on prior conviction of a felony, so if that is going on, the insurance companies can be sued big time.
hispanics are not the only illegal immigrants here in the US.
Depending in what part of the US you live in you will find more of one race than others. Think of it, are you willing to pick strawberries (back breaking work), cotton, or any other type of hard, physical labor? Most of the immigrants are humble and very hard working people (I am more familiar with the Hispanic culture).