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My husband was attacked as a small child by pit bulls...

Posted By: AzMT on 2006-08-17
In Reply to: Have to disagree. Pit bulls have been bred - Dogger

and he still owned two of them when I met him.  This is my second marriage and I have two children (4 and 7 at the time).  I refused to bring my kids to his house with the dogs there.  He eventually found homes for them.  One ended up being put down because it attacked someone and the other had to be put down later for killing the family cat.  These were dogs my husband "trusted."  Never...never would I allow my children or animals around pit bulls.  It is sad, but like you said it is instinct from years and years of breeding for that purpose.  So sad for all.


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No, you are not being attacked...

because you asked a question.  You are being "attacked" because you have the audacity and nerve to call us rude and panic-ridden after we responded to not just 1, but 2 of your posts asking for advice about what to do about your DH and his problem.


My first thought after your first post was "why is she bothering to take the time to ask this here?  Why doesn't she contact a medical professional such as a doctor?"  But alas, a little later on you reported that he was doing ok.


Then, you came back again with yet another post saying that his lower lip was now swollen.  Now, we know nothing about you and your life other than the little bit of info you decided to share regarding your DH and his medical malady.  How were we to know he was not having a severe allergic reaction to something?  That is certainly how you made it sound.


I am deeply offended and angered at the nature of your replies (as I'm sure many others are) to people who were genuinely concerned and only trying to offer you the only advice they could given the information they were presented with.  No, this is not something I will carry with me or let "bum me out", but it is disheartening when you try to show concern for someone and you basically get slapped in the face.


I don't think anyone that responded to your posts was rude to you in any way, shape, or form.  I myself responded to your second post and was as kind as I could possibly be when I asked which you could afford more...the emergency room bill, or the loss or your DH.  I even said I wasn't trying to be harsh.  But the statement you made about not wanting to go to the ER becasue of the cost really burned me.  You cannot put a price on someones health or life. 


I am glad that your DH is ok; however, I think the responses you made after so many people tried to help you out were unwarranted.  If you didn't want our advice, you shouldn't have asked and just because you didn't like the advice you got doesn't give you the right to respond in the way you did.


karma... 


What were you doing when the WTC was attacked 5 yrs ago?

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Jan, you attacked me below...
on the EMR thread because I was more knowledgable than you regarding the subject, which you could not admit.  Stop accusing other people of supposedly doing the exact same thing that you have done.  That is ridiculous...
WRONG! A child that has a fear of discipline = a well behaved child.
I have a beautiful, intelligent 11 year old daughter that hasn't had a spanking in 6 or 7 years and probably only 3 her entire life. She is very well behaved and I get compliments on her behavior constantly. When she does get out of line all I have to say is, "Shall I call your father?" Call it what you want, it works. She respects and obeys me and her father. Why??? For fear of the facing the consequences of misbehaving. Having a total lack of fear or respect for authority is exactly what's wrong with Generation X/kids today. I turned out just fine as did my siblings. Why?? Because my parents took "time out" to bust our a$$es whenever we got out of line.

Is that clear enough for you???
That's "every day" before I get attacked :) nm
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My ex's dog was just attacked by one 2 days ago
He was walking her on a leash and an unleashed pit mix attacked her. Ripped up her leg and she had emergency surgery. She would have the same fate as Shadow had it not been for his neighbors using shovels and whatever else they could find to beat off the pit. And like you and your husband, they were lucky they were not attacked as well.

Ex drove by the house the next day and the gate was open. He called animal control and he and his friends went to visit the dog owner. The guy actually tried to deny it was his dog... don't think so.. head swollen from the shovels, etc., and snout torn up from my ex's dog defending her neck.

Ex also lives in a major metropolitan area and this attack occurred the first day of school at 8:00 a.m. This dog was also seen killing a cat.

I seriously believe something is wrong with people who insist on the procreation of these dogs.

I am so sorry for you loss.
You are certifiable... Bush's war on terror? Excuse me, but THEY attacked us, or did you forget?
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That's bulls**t!
You who are holier than thou, how many single mothers do you think have been created because of 911? The Irac war? Cancer? Divorce (my case) because we made a bad choice, and don't tell me you've never made any mistakes. The vast majority of single mothers aren't in their situation by choice. And yes, it is a hard job, so excuse us if we complain just a little. But don't acuse of us of playing a "single mother card" because that's just stupiid. Why, oh why, do we have to put up with this troll over and over again?
pit bulls
I am so sorry for your loss of your beloved pet and I do hope those dogs are caught. Unfortunately these dogs have been in the hands of many abusers/handlers and taught to fight. My daughter has a very sweet pit bull and two children, but she taught her dog to be gentle and she is good with their other dog also. Just recently a man in Massachusetts was arrested for animal abuse. He was caught in the backyard of his house with a pair of scissors and he cut off his pitbull puppy's ears to make him look more intimidating, how sad is that, he will face a 5,000 fine and jail time and his dogs taken away from him. The vet said the puppy is doing fine now and will be put up for adoption along with his brother.

I was in a store once and at the check out there was a book called "There are no bad dogs, just bad owners." How true is that?

We have a doberman for 10 years and they are considered to be a bully breed, but she was a good dog and we socialized her and would not let her get away with any aggressive behavior.

It is so sad to see all these poor pit bulls multiplying and living with these ignorant people who want to make money by teaching them how to fight, feeding them gun powder, etc. No wonder insurance companies will not insure you if you have this breed. These dogs have come from tiny puppies and grown into monsterous dogs and it is so sad as they mutilate people, and then end up being euthanized. When you own a dog you have to be responsible and keep them in a good environment and not teach them to be aggressive.

Labradors are wonderful family dogs and I know you will miss him and I am glad your other dog was not killed by the bullies. I hope they catch them soon and the people who own them should be locked up also.

that would be SIX bulls only....nm

pit bulls in Boston
If you live in Boston and own a pit bull, you and the dog have to go to a police station and have a picture taken of you together and get a permit to keep the animal. Too many horror stories like yours. I am so sorry for the loss of your beloved pet.
I already run with enuf bulls on the job. nm

There would be two dead pit bulls in my neighborhood
If this happened to me.  What if this was a child.  I can't believe no one does anything about this in your community. 
pit bulls killed Maltese
I am so sorry about your puppy.  I saw a pit bull attack a German shepherd in our off-leash park.  The owner showed up right after the police -- I and the shepherd's owner were screaming, "Call 911" -- and he gave a fake name and address.  He had another loose pit bull, too.  Then another of my dog-walking acquaintances said she saw a pit bull kill a dog in that same park and the owner then proceeded to kill the pit bull by bludgeoning him/her.  I read that one of every two dogs killed at our animal shelter is a pit.  I have a neighbor who drove 1000-1500 miles, to a breeder's place in California, to get a pit bull to protect his wife, that the breeder claimed was completely gentle, just looked scary.
how awful for you!! Pit bulls not allowed
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That is awful. It is sad that pit bulls are bred....

to be this way.  I only wish your yard would have been dog proofed and this wouldn't have happened to your dog.  I know you tried to fix the fence, but apparently it wasn't fixed.  I would hire someone to fix it once and for all or dig down a couple feet and put chicken wire or plywood to stop them from digging and going under.  My sister did this around her chicken coop to keep the coyotes out and it worked.  I have two labs and I would never ever allow them to get out. 


I really am sorry for your loss and it is horrible.  I do feel, though, as responsible pet owners that we all should keep our animals in our own yards whether it is a lab or a pit bull.  I'm very sorry.


Have to disagree. Pit bulls have been bred
to be fighting dogs - it is in their blood, just as racing and running is in thoroughbreds blood. I absolutely adore dogs, but would never trust a pit bull, no matter whose it was or how good it had been. You never know when the prey drive will be turned on, or the fighting mode. Traits and characteristics are bred into dogs, and pit bulls have long been abused by breeders for these very characteristics. Then the pups generations later get into the general public, and yes, they have instincts to fight that they often cannot control. It is not the dogs' fault at all, but it is 100% human fault - for over-breeding this killer instinct into them, and for not keeping them under constant supervision. I am so sorry for your loss - we have had several near misses as well, and have a new neighbor with a rottie mix who has already killed several dogs and cats - and by jumping over his own fence and attacking. At least they forewarned us, but we could tell by the maniacal barking and the noise of this dog attacking its own fence to get over it at us. Again, so sorry for your loss. What a horrific experience. At least you still have Flash. Poor Flash. Poor Shadow.
Running of the bulls? nothing but bull
This is once again an example of senseless slaughter of a poor defenseless animal.  Shame on you Spain, for allowing this as well as bullfighting to to go in this day and age.  Any one who gets thier jollies watching animals suffer is a deeply disturbed individual and I believe this says alot about our society and where we are and where we are going.  And we call ourselves civilized? How different is this from throwing the Christians to the lions in ancient Rome?  ITs just reversed, only the animals are getting thrown to the humans. 
Bull to running of the bulls
This is once again an example of senseless slaughter of a poor defenseless animal. Shame on you Spain, for allowing this as well as bullfighting to to go in this day and age. Any one who gets thier jollies watching animals suffer is a deeply disturbed individual and I believe this says alot about our society and where we are and where we are going. And we call ourselves civilized? How different is this from throwing the Christians to the lions in ancient Rome? ITs just reversed, only the animals are getting thrown to the humans.


Our next door neighbor breeds pit bulls
and the new mother pit bull gets out of their fence after the owners go to bed. She comes over here and jumps at my windows and doors (I have two small dogs). She wags her tail like she is friendly and barks to get in. A vet lived in this house before I did. I won't open the door though I feel she may be friendly. It scares me that she gets out of their yard and you see all the small pit bulls out during the day.

I am so so sorry for what happened to the OP's lab. I feel that they should ban the breeding of pit bulls. Too many horrible things have happened with this breed of dog.
Tomorrow is the running of the bulls in Pamplona...
Anybody going? http://www.condoradventures.com/images/runbull_medic.jpg
DH is dear husband or any number of colorful adjectives preceding husband. (no message)
;)
small mentality usually means small pocketbook
Still make more than you and I but that is deserved. They've put the effort forward and educated themselves.


I totally understand but if your husband is like my husband... sm

When it comes to something like that, that I usually take care of but for whatever reason I can't, I will tell my husband exactly what to do, but when he comes back - to use your case as a "for instance" - I will ask him, "Did the doctor look at his foot?" 


Him: "No."


Me: "Did you ask the doctor to look at his foot?"


Him: "No."


Me:  "I told you to have the doctor look at his foot!"


Him: (shrug)


etc., etc., etc.


Your husband may not be like that - I sure hope he isn't. And yes, they should have checked his vitals and checked his foot without being asked. But sometimes you have to be assertive with people. And while my husband attained the rank of major in the Air Force and had no trouble ordering people around, there are times when he should be assertive but isn't. And he is not intimidated by doctors - he started his AF career as an x-ray tech (that's how we met). I dunno....(Rad MT wanders off, mumbling....)


Are you the one with the ill child ???
If so, please realize that the stress of an ill child can be devastating to a marriage. Unfortunately many men deal with this kind of thing by drinking.  My best friend in the world went through 4 yrs of fighting leukemia with her little boy who became ill at 12 months.  Her husband turned into a total and complete jerk, drinking, and eventually becoming abusive to her.  A major medical illness can pull people apart.  On the other hand, it sometimes draws people together, but less often.  I had our third child extremely premature and she was critically ill for 2 months and then spent another 2 months in the NICU, 4 months total.  It was a big stress, but fortunately we weathered it okay.  Some people are not so lucky.  My first thought is that all this nonsense with your father, and his mother, and wills and money, and all the rest is just something to fixate on.  It may very well NOT be the source of the current friction in your home and your marriage.  Maybe some counseling if you can get him to go, would be in order.  My best to you and your family.
It's no wonder--with a child like you...
your mother probably ripped her own uterus out, and that will be the one and only post to this person.  It was just too easy!! 
Why would you do that to your child?
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New car for my child
My 17-year-old did get a new car for his birthday for several reasons: He has never given us a bad time about anything, he has a 4.2 GPA, and did a 2,210 on his SAT (the new SAT),is headed to the college he had his eye on for several years now (asked for and got early acceptance letter) and he has been working part-time since he was 14 years old.

We decided to get him a new car because he will need it for school (it's a few states away and we want him to have something dependable) and because he has really gone the distance and worked very hard to get to this point.

I'm really not bragging here, these are just our reasons. He didn't get a fancy racing car, just something that is nice and dependable and made us comfortable.


Anyone whose child has gotten the flu?
Symptoms of coughing, fever, chills and sweats, no appetite, hurts all over, sleepy.  Grandson has been this way for 5 days, 2 visits to the doc, lost 2 lbs in 5 days (which for a little guy is a lot).  X-rays show no pneumonia.  What can we do?  Any ideas gratefully appreciated.
Think about the child
and the fact that it is not wanted. Funny I did not hear one mention about adoption in this post. Sometimes abortion is the best choice (IMO).
Let's do think about the child
Adoption has been mentioned in some of the posts, but you may have missed it. A person who kills somebody else may be thinking of many things, but the actual well-being of the person he or she is killing is certainly not one of them. Everyone is "not wanted" by somebody else at some point in their lives.
The best defense for a child...
As heart tugging as they are, accurate transcription is sooooo important for any person, there is a lot at stake and your best effort at triple checking what you have typed is our little helping hand at helping those seeking help. Flag ANYTHING you doubt, if you get lost in the "he said, she said," someone else will too and calling attention to those items WILL HELP to ensure the reports are easily read and understood. Keep up the good work, the job we do IS IMPORTANT! Any complaint or abuse is paperwork, paperwork, paperwork, just be sure those you do are the cream to help those who in need.
different child, different methods
I am the mother of two 20-year-olds, 1 boy and 1 girl. I can tell you from first hand experience the type of discipline depends on the child. My daughter, she might have had 2 spankings in her whole life. She could be talked to and punished in other ways that worked. My son, on the other hand, about every 6 months he would be due for a spanking and then he was fine again. I have learned from experience, never say that you will never do something or that you will not do something. If one thing does not work, believe you will go to spanking if it means saving your child.
Any child is more adult than you are.
I grow weary of your tiresome chatter.....
does anyone have a child that models? sm
or in commercials, print ads, etc? My 6 YOS is just adorable (of course!) and he has a very bright, outgoing personality. I am told all the time that he should be in "pictures", but don't know how to go about getting started. I don't have money to invest in all the pictures and things.  I know this is probably a long shot, but any info would be greatly appreciated. 
Don't think I'd put my child in that business (sm)

It's something they can pursue when they are old enough.


Also, don't spend a lot on pictures, if you have to pay for just reprinting of pictures and they pay for the photographer that is probably reasonable.


CHILD SUPPORT??

 Can ANYONE give me some legitimate service who goes after "deadbeat dads"????  I'm at the end of my emotional rope, and my state (Oklahoma) has not helped much in nailing down this butthead ('cuse my French)....I've talked to a few "services" which IF they get anything from him, they will probably take 60-70% of it!!!    Has anyone had any luck anywhere??  Why do these guys (and I'm sure there are gals out there too!) get away with not supporting their kids???


Sorry to vent  ...I type for a living (like you) and beating this keyboard sometimes helps me feel better!  Thanks for listening (reading ??)....


 


child support
Believe me, deadbeat moms are very prevalent, moreso than people think.  I know from personal experience that these moms rather spend their money on themselves than send even the tiny amount they are required by law to send to their child, all the time professing how much they love their children. 
Child Support

We have a newer prosecuter in one of our local county's who started a new program to go after deadbeat parents.  3 times a year, she post the pictures of the worst offenders on the front pages of the newpapers, along with how much they owe...usually has a pretty good rate of call in's to report seeing them.  She's also working extremely hard to get the state to NOT renew drivers lisc. on any of those who are over 2,000 in arrears.


My sister finally got the attention of our prosecuter when her ex got close to 30 grand, the folks at CS just did not seem to have a working phone or at least one they answered, so they went after him, showed up in court, the magistrate took all of 10 minutes to look over the files...asked the idiot and the prosecuter if he had a working wage deduction in place (which he did on paper), and then said...Well he has the wage order in place, so case over 


Now how the heck do you think he got to the 30 grand mark if the wage order was working........duh  Good luck, been there before and glad mine has paid on time.


Child with GERD

Hi there!


My son started projectile vomiting when he was just 2 months old.  It took us 10 months to find a doctor that would diagnosis him with anything.  As of now he is almost 7 and he takes 20 mg of Priosec daily, 5 mg of singular, and OTC Pepcid AC when he has a flare-up.   Which is almost weekly.  We had him on 40 mg for a long time, but the doc is wanting to try to get that down!  


After such a long time of all this gasping for air, the same as you described, we took Josh to an allergiest and he has been diagnosed with asthma also.  This is VERY common in children with GERD.  I would MOST definiately check that out!!!


Good Luck and let us know how you are doing!


Chel 


Keeping any child
I disagree. I would much rather home school a child than send them into what passes for education today. I support the mothers who home school!
be sure you get child support

It might not be much, but it will help. I didn't have the option of working fulltime from home when my son was small, so I had to put him in daycare. Found a reasonable sitter who was very reliable. But to supplement my day income, I did work part-time at night. I fed him, helped him with homework, bathed him and then put him down for bed and THEN went to work at home, many nights until 1 a.m.God gives us strength to get through things when we need it, cause I certainly don't think I could do it now! It will not be easy for you with 2 young children, but it can be done. It will require sacrifices, but don't sacrifice time with your children or time for yourself! Do a lot of praying.  God Bless and I wish you the best. Keep a support group around you as much as possible.  


say that the best doctor for the child(ren)......is...sm

THEIR MOTHER............


True................


believe it or not - Good Mommy's are the best diagnosticians of their children. 


32 next month one child age 6
I am 31, 32 next month and I am divorced with a precious son who is 6
raise up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old, he
I figure I taught him what I know and believe. He has to make the decisions from there, and if what I taught him was strong enough, and believable enough, he will do OK. May make mistakes, but he'll do OK.
Exactly that, it is a fetus and not yet a child.
Not yet a human being. Many people miscarry and although devastating you don't see them acting quite the same as if they lost a 2 year old child, do you? They do not hold a funeral service for a fetus along with burial and a headstone, do they? It is definitely not the same as a child.
You should take this as far as you can. The next time it may be a child on the other end of the
:+
Yes... Each child learns on a different day in a different way.
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This just has to be a child posting, no??
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if you have a child togehther.
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