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Not so bad if you can divide it into 7 days. Gross.

Posted By: omt on 2006-06-25
In Reply to: Cheeseburger with Krispy Kreme donuts? - XtremeMT

I couldn't even think about eating a half of a donut, but even thinking about adding a cheesburger is just insane.


What do these people wash this thing down with, a 2 liter Mountain Dew?


I get heartburn just thinking about it.




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Gone are those days of the gross line...

I remember the gross line too (back in 1989) and we were on a 55 character line and one clinic account we had specifically requested a 45 character margin so the printed reports/letters could fit on their special stationary!  No ESLS (or very, very rare).  I loved getting paid 7.25 cpl then.  Type "Sincerely," and it was 7.25 cents.  I worked on DOS OS, Multi-Mate and WordStar back then, amber, green or black/white monitor, 640 XT PC with 5.25 and 3.5 inch floppies, a 20 meg HD with X-Tree file manager, PRD word expansion software and had a 1200 baud external modem (but can't remember the modem software name!)  Yeah, we were rocking baby!    


I was glad to progress to that machine from the typewriter with my 4 carbon copies and 5 "flavors" of white out (white, pink, yellow/buff/canary, goldenrod, green) when I made a mistake...


Gross lines and 12 hour days!!! I stand corrected, you weren't stretching the truth, you were...

misleading everyone.  The majority of MTSOs pay by a 65 character lines.  Paying for spaces or not paying for spaces is usually the only variant between companies.  You come on here and say that you tyhpe 3000 a line a day and leave it at that.  Don't say how many hours your work, how long your lines are, etc.  That is misleading!


I probably am typing 3000 gross lines a day in my eight hour day if I were coutning gross lines.  For fun, I think on my next work day, I'm going to jot down my gross line count in each document and add it up at the end of the day and compare it to my actual line count.  I'll let everyone know what the difference is.


Geez!  Really burns me up when people get on here at start spouting out nonsense as if it were fact and we should all be in awe of their skills and expertise!  For future reference, the truth lies in the details.  You can't just say you do 3000 lines a day and leave it at that.  Notice when I posted below how many lines a day I do, I added that I work a strictly 8 hour day and that my lines are 65 characters with spaces.


Give accurate and detailed information people, PLEASE!


Apparently. I have some I have had to divide
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You can't divide files with ES.
You may still be able to use the Sony software to do the editing/dividing but I don't know enough of that software to be certain. You can try to find a free program out there that can do the same thing for you at: http://www.thefreecountry.com/utilities/audioeditors.shtml

Otherwise, I'm happy with the ES software.
OH I FORGOT -- Divide the AutoSum # by 65!! LOL nm
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Oops... divide by 65, not 64.... typo... my bad...nm
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I did not start this to divide us..It was to unite us

I am in the beginning stages of this fight..Whether HIPAA is a fighting point or not I am not yet sure..It was a thought...I am researching more on Homeland Security...HIPAA and this new electronic medical record thing that people have been speaking about...While I research..All I am asking for is two things one is if you are willing to go forth with this with me...I blind copy mass emails so NO ONE will get your emaill address... And two give me ideas and guidance...If when the research is done and it doesn't look like it will fly what have you lost,,,nothing..What have I lost a lot of time and energy but at least I gain knowledge...Lets not fight amongst ourselves that was not the idea...


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i think it is incredibly gross. personal hygiene commercials are just gross anyway.
this one is stupid and gross.
And don't forget you have to divide the character count by 65 :)
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1 ck to feds, 1 ck to state, divide last year's taxes into 4 payments...
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One client uses word count.....total divide by 1000
nm
I have a QA question. Is it normal to divide your errors by your total lines? I thought

it was supposed to be your errors by either total characters or total words, but total lines just doesn't seem right.  You do a 90 line report and have one error (that is counted as two points) and you have a 97.78%.  I put an instead of a (on accident of course) and got docked two points and failed the review for that patient.  That just doesn't seem right. 


Is this normal?


30 hours divided by four days equals seven-hour days. Most of us have to work pretty much every day
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Working 6/hour days, 5 days/week I make
$42,000.00, but the work is there to make more if I want to.  I'm in the southeast. 
2000 low days, 4000 busy days
Did 43,000 lines last month.   6 doctors. 
You can "make a living" if you work 16-hr days, 7 days
and if you rarely buy anything but food and the barest essentials in clothing. My balancing act is so precarious that all it'll take is one of life's little disasters (rent increase, sick pet, major car repair) to pull the rug out from under me. Not a good feeling at all.
550-650 lph on average. Some days more, some days less. It all depends. nm
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How? By working 12-hr days 7 days/week?
;LKJ
A gross line IS a gross line regardless if it's 90 characters long or 1 character long... SM

I'm very sorry that your lines are 90 characters line and you get paid by gross lines.  You are cheating yourself - that's not my fault.  You cannot change the definition of a gross line.  So I gues I'm not understanding what you are trying to say.  Now if you are trying to say that your line equals 90 characters and that's how you figure your lines, than you are not using gross lines.  You have defined a line to be 90 characters, whereas most MTSOs define a line as 65 characters.  If that is the case, then I must say again, you are cheating yourself.


So which is it, do you get paid by gross lines or by a 90 character line?


65-gross line vs.65-gross character line

Can someone explain the difference between these two?  I am assuming that the gross line is better than the gross character line.  How much better is being paid by the gross character line than just by the standard 65-character line?  Does anyone know how much difference it would make in dollars and cents?


Thanks.


How do you know she is gross?
Do you personally know her?  I dont' think so.  Everybody has skeletons in their closet, hers are just magnified because she is in the public eye.  Don't judge people you don't even know.
What was gross?
Perhaps you happened to look in a mirror instead.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
GROSS
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She is gross, but
I do like her Sierra Mist commercial
gross
Gross lines are anything on a line counted as a line, even if it is only a couple characters. I think 9 c/gross line is usually equal to about 12-13/65 cpl.
Gross!
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that is so gross!
who would even come up with such a strange combination??
Gross pay - nm
nm
I'd go with gross.
You'll spend more time doing the math unless you use a line counting program.  JMO.  Stick with the 12 cpl and don't short yourself.  You may have some horrible dictators as well unless you already know how they dictate.  The 12 cpl gross will make for that. 
that's gross!
I had one of those once and what was also nasty was that he passed gas...a long trail...while urinating. He too stopped to talk to people. Maybe this is why doctor's are taught to wash their hands before each patient.
gross vs 65
Gross much better - anything typed on a line.
Gross or 65 cpl
I charge 12 to 12.5 gross lines but I pick up and deliver, print, etc. 
this might be gross but...
i like to do a Google image search for many of the diseases from dictations i do. i find all of this terribly fascinating and it's kind of cool to be able to not only tell somebody what a particular condition is should they ask, but to be able to describe it to them in a visual sense as well.

i also enjoy working with my medical terminology flashcards when i have any downtime. sometimes my pool would be empty (especially toward the end of the month when all the people who slacked off during the first three weeks were scrambling to get their lines in) so i'd take advantage of that extra time to pay a bill online or throw some laundry in.
Per Gross Line Pay?
Being relatively new to MT, I'm not quite sure what being paid by the gross line is as opposed to being paid by a 65 character line.   Can someone clear me up on this.    Thanks much. 
gross line
I am paid by the gross line whether one word is on it or 10 or 12, the same amount.

If you are paid by 65 character line, you take the characters and divide by 65 or use Sylcount whereas you are can then paid for each keystroke, i.e. capitalization, underline is two characters, etc. YOu have to define what a line is or what a character is.
gross line
Thanks Patti!!
No....only if you are doing gross lines- nm
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gross commercials lol

This actually was a comedy routine about them, remember Balki anyone?  Forgot the show but he was here in the US living with his cousin?


He did a comedy stint about his first nice, sit down dinner in America. He was having his boss & family over and wanted to do it just right, so he went to the grocery. 


"Can you believe what you can find in America,  they already sanitize your napkins, so all you have to do is put silverware on them and your table is set"..But he was having trouble with the spoon rolling off the "Sanitary Napkins".  OMG thought I'd lose it.  Then he added the gourmet jelly...KY jelly "it is what the state of Kentucky is famous for so it must be good"..that was a good but gross stint.


gross line
6 is a good gross line rate when you figure it is equal to at least 8.5 if it were counted at 65 characters, most companies don't want to pay more than 7-8
gross lines
One can do far better in a day when counting gross lines rather than character counted -- especially if very familiar with the accounts (of course, that helps either way :).
11 cpl gross equals what on a 65?
nm
is it scary though? or just gross?
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Sorry, but gross generalization.
I am married to a very well-educated, white collar guy and he does everything for me that you described your blue collar guy does for you and more. While DH is clean and well-groomed, he is far from vain and not at all the stereotype you described. Also, I've seen blue collar men who are disgusting pigs who just want to drink beer and watch TV.

Conclusion: There are both blue and white collar princes and both blue and white collar toads, so please do not generalize. :-)
Gross line
What is a gross line and how is it figured? The contract states 6 cpl for 68 characters. Although, after just speaking with the company, every space, keystroke is counted. Still confused.
Gross line
What is a gross line, and how is it figured?
Gross!! Maybe in the 70s-now the Stones are just 70!
nm
I saw that it was for gross line but I was getting
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I do gross lines

I go into file, properties, statistics and that gives me my gross count.  Very simple and easy as long as you are using Word, no program to buy.   I am surprised that the company you are working for did not show this to you.  Also gives you characters if you are paid for characters divided by whatever your line is and not gross lines. 


Patti


Gross line
I do gross lines and if they want a smaller font, I change it back to Courier or Arial 12 and count that way.  I have been lucky as just raised my rates 0.005 to 11.0 but have not raised in the past 4 years.  I do do pick up and delivery as they are still on tapes and told them that with the gas I had to do it.   They had no problem as I am still one of the lowest here in the Portland area.  And, they have been with me from 6 to 18 years my accounts.  But I still go on what I can do in an hour and since I have been doing these docs so long I can make anywhere from 30 to 50 dollars an hour and I think that is a fair rate for me.   I still believe the only ones getting rich in this medical mess is the insurance companies and that was in the news this last week.  Their big profits.  Anyway go with gross line, I still quote it as 65 characters per line which it is but I count by gross and 12 font.    Patti
Gross line

I bill for gross line which means each line counts whether there are 10 words or one word each line counts.  So when I type in a smaller font, there are less lines than in Courier.  I do not take the characters and divide by 65.   Hope that makes sense.  So the smaller font, the less lines.  So when I contract with a client I tell them that my price per cpl it is a 65 character line in Courier font.  If they chose to use Ariel 10, I will type in that for them but the line count is done in Courier or at least Ariel 10. 


 


a GROSS error???????
come on. I do not think I would want to work for you!!!!!! **said jokingly**

To me a gross error is something that changes the meaning of something. You didn't get that the MT was from California when he/she put "Ca" instead of CA????? Sheesh......give 'em a break.

This is a style error not a GROSS ERROR. Maybe you should put this in your advertisement "Please use AAMT BOS guidelines when filling out application and submitting employment letter". ROFLOL!!!!!!

Seriously though, I think if the MT has a good resume and performs well on the exam that he/she should be given a chance. Be clear that you expect proper style guidelines utilized. If they still want to do things their way (from the 1950s, LOL) then put them in your delete box :-)
Just a thought.

Have a good day!