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Quit working BEFORE retire, no income, no

Posted By: taxes. nm on 2008-01-21
In Reply to: You would have to die not to pay taxes- - Not me!

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FYI, i TRIPLED my income when i quit inhouse and went on production. sm
Yes, it can be a scary thought but you know how much you want to earn and how many lines you need to make it. i only went on maternity leave, picked up temporary work from home, saw how much more i was making, and never returned when maternity leave ran out. i'd take the offer with the national in a heartbeat. just prepare yourself to stick to a routine as there are always other things to do when working from home so production can lack if distracted easily. everyone thinks working from home is easy but it is rather hard in my opinion as the phone is always ringing, surfing the net, the house always needs cleaning, laundry, kids, the BIG kid, and on and on. so you have to be dedicated to make good money.
NEVER quit a job unless you actually start working at another sm
especially when it comes to at-home positions. 
Quit working and unplug everything.
Had a television get hit one time that was unplugged from power but cable was still connected. So undo everything.
Okay - Everybody reply with NM if you are going to quit working today!
If everyone is going to stick together (happy with your job or not), then we should all notify our employer today that we refuse to work until things change for ALL american MTs.  How many of you are willing to do that right now?
Once you give notice and quit working, how many days/weeks/months

are you covered by your medical/dental insurance?  My employee handbook does not mention this.  Is there a "standard" period of time that you remain covered?  TIA for your reply. 


Not sure, I have deductions for federal income tax, SS tax, Medicare tax, and state income tax. ???
nm
I quit once for 3 years, but then started again. (Quit cold turkey when I did)


I'm with you, ready to retire
but have a few years to go, like 20. My production hasn't gone up 25%, has yours? If anything it has gone down. Have you thought about Spheris? I had a job offer last year at 10 cpl, should have taken it probably.
I would like to retire in this profession too
but fear for my job's safety. I unfortunately think the bottom line for a lot of these hospitals and doctors is the $$ and nothing more. They want to save money and don't care about the quality of the reports any more. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think so.
If you retire and go on SS, there is a set limit--sm
you can earn per month, if you continue to work, or they will reduce your SS income per month by how much over the set amount you are allowed. NOT a pension retirement, SS retirement.
And you are correct. I have 6 yrs until I retire and
nm
They want a retirement that they don't even contribute to, they already retire at 55.
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I've been wishing I could retire since I was still
Sure don't see it in my future, though, unless I win the Lottery, and most times I can't afford to play.
Or smart enough to not retire if you cant afford
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When she took retire. she agreed to 900 limit.
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Many people retire to Belize.
I saw an ad once about how you can live really comfortably there and Americans are dual citizens. I visited Belize last year and it was gorgeous, but it is still rough around the edges. Very small, and remote. We here in the USA are used to creature comforts which would not be this way in other countries. Plus, we take liberty and freedom for granted and living in these other places, well I doubt they see things the way we do.
I quit two months ago. I tried to quit for over a year, but I just had to be ready.
I tried the patch, NRT gum, Zyban, everything. One morning, I woke up and just quit cold turkey. There are some good online support groups out there that can help you when you're ready.
Retired or retarded? Anyone can retire if they set their life standards low enough
BUt if you think sitting on the couch pointing fingers at how bad the government is constitutes a wonderful successful life, good for you!

I'm not the one complaining about how bad things are, YOU are!

By the way, precious. I don't have to work, I want to, and am no longer an MT because I've gotten an education and moved on to a productive life with goals that stretch beyond the living room and the computer room.

Get over yourself. No one is impressed because your life certainly does not sound impressive in the least.


Do not cheat you chose to retire earlly deal with it
That is part of the problem everyone wants everything.  If you took early retirement, stay retired. Do no try to go around the system or the rules.  If everyone pays their full share it is fair.   But when you try to cheat hopefully it will come back and bite you as we do not need this .  Everyone needs to pay taxes on their income whether it is IC or employee.  If everyone pays their share it is fair. You chose early retirement, deal with it.
I think she was leaving an inhouse job and of course would retire rather than lose her benefits by j
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ALSO IF THEY WERE GOING TO QUIT SE, THEY WOULD QUIT ADVERTISING TO HIRE SE
And I have seen a new ad in the magazine Advance that has a sign on bonus for SE's, maybe just better pay, let's think positive!!
Do NOT quit MT yet! & dont quit looking.Try her
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It's the only place I have ever lived.. Great place to retire or raise a family. Low crime rate e
living is pretty easy here. Low stress..
Your right..Pocatello, Idaho.. You should really see North Idaho.. that's where I want to retire.

Pine trees, gorgeous views, lakes, mountains.. now that is heaven.. right around Coeur d' Alene.. That's where you'd really want to retire.. trust me..


You get more working the evening or night shifts and working w/o benefits. And producing like a mad
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MT income

I am at #6, but have been an MT for 30+ years. 


But for those who need FT income...sm
I can see how that could be a problem for some. It is my intention to get a PT job, and if I don't get enough work, find another to fill it out; then, who ever pays best for the best work and least hassle WINS. However, my DH is the primary wage earner around here. My income helps, but we don't require it to live.
income

I live in New York, have been doing MT for 15 years and during all of that time I have needed to work 50 to 70 hours a week.  I started on working mostly from tapes. When the dictations started coming through the computer and I started using word expanders, income went way up.  But so has my rent - used to be $750, now $1100.  And my son eats a lot more at 14 than he used to! A few years ago I started working for 2 services for extra money... but now I couldn't get by without 2 jobs. The first job used to pay well, but with a combination of a new platform and VR,  plus being transferred to a different account at a lesser line rate, I make thousands less from them than I used to.  I am changing companies.  Would love a 40 hour work week but don't think it's possible.


40,000 not low income

maybe with 10 children..  I know of one circumstance (in my state, and some others) where a person can make a decent amount of money (sky's not the limit, but 50,000 range is OK) and still get Medicaid. It's a program for working people with disabilities, whose medical expenses are extremely high and would not be covered by regular insurance - including services of home health aide and transportation to medical appointments, equipment, etc etc). I am on this program (which I was not told about by Medicaid workers, had to do my own research). So I am in the curious position of receiving government assistance (Medicaid only, not food stamps or disability payments) and working/paying taxes at the same time.


Likely the OP is not in this category.


Income Tax after Death

I have a friend whose mother passed away in March of this year.  She was an IC and thus earned income right up until the time of her death.  Is her daughter now responsible for filing an income tax return and/or paying taxes on this income?  I know an accountant for her would be handy in this situation, but I thought I might get some opinions here as well.  Thanks!!


Disagree - it is NET income
You pay your social security on your NET income not your gross, after all your deductions and look around you will find them.   Also you are only paying 7.5% MORE than if you were an employee.  Again, as an employee you have the convenience of someone controlling and withholding your income tax while as an IC you do it.  I have more usable income as an IC than as an employee because of my deductions.  If your husband is working have him take one less deduction or have them hold out a specific amount that will offset what you make,  they will do that and that way you don't have to worry about paying quarterly taxes.   The IRS doesn't care who pays as long as if you are filing jointly the tax has been paid.  
He can't cut his income intentionally.. sm
It's written into the divorce decree (if you have a halfway decent attorney) that income cannot be reduced.. and even if it is.. the child support and other payments remain the same as ordered. Been there...and done that..
Monthy Income
I would like to know what short cuts "nm" is using in order to make $60K a year.  Maybe that will help us all make more money.  Thanks.
Yearly income

I have three 1099's here in front of me  -- one for 24K, one for 13K,  and one for 5K.    My W2 one is for 14 almost 15K.  I did work without 1099 in the amount of 3K.   The reason that my average goes down on the IRS forms is that after all my business deductions -- which includes my health insurance and 401K and Self employed retirement fund, mileage, supplies, etc. it goes down to less than 20K.   Believe me or not, but it is possible and I still have time to go on the boards.  I do not work 60 to 70 hours per week. 



I have my own accounts and my income
was around $38,000. That is around $3,100 a month. I work M-F and usually work 8-hour days, though there are times I need to put in an extra hour or two on the weekend or in the evening when the work is really coming in. If you work for someone else, that person is charging at least 3-4 cents per line over what they are paying you in order to turn a profit, so if you are making 7 cpl, you can bet they're charging at least 11 cpl, if not more. At 11 cpl, if you can achieve 1400 lines a day, that would be around $3000 a month. That would be 175 lines an hour and that is not an extraordinary amount for an experienced MT with Expanders and other production tools in place. I would venture a guess that most saying they make that much have their own accounts and those making less than that a month work for someone else.
Low income housing?
My sister is getting divorced and wants to move into this place that bills itself as "low income".  They told her they would take 30% of her income.  BTW, she is also an MT.  She says she makes about $1350 a month, but has a van payment and various bills.  I am asking on here because the place won't answer any of her questions right now.  She needs to be moved by the 15th of March.  I am wondering if anyone knows how they can take over $400 of her income and still call themselves "low income" that doesn't seem fair.  I knew a lady that lived their with one child and paid less than $10 a month.  I mean what about her other bills?  She has 4 little children (twins 4, and  6- and an 8-year-old).  I hate to see her move in there and overpay.  My mom and I don't know what to tell her.  She's been through quite an ordeal already.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks!  Aunt Maria
annual income
Watch out, you will be accused of being childish from the same person who refers to "some" fellow MTs as unfortunately not having a brain. Hmmm, pot calling the kettle black? That was so rude and so not called for.....is that necessary!
20K is my taxable income

Boy you guys do not know how to read financial statements or know the first thing about running your own business.   That is my taxable income.  I start out about 55K and end up paying taxes on only 20K if that.  I support myself in a very unique lifestyle living on a floating home.  I contribute 15K to a my own retirement fund.  I have NO debt.  And I probably spend no more on gas than if I were working at a hospital but I get to deduct the mileage which is a good deduction.   The only outlay that I have that I would not have if I were working for someone else is supplies -- sticky paper and toner.  I have looked at employee versus IC or business owner and I am so much more ahead financially doing it this way.  A lot more usable income.  And I only work 30 hours per week even with deliveries and pick-ups.   So before you speak, learn how to realize what is net, gross and  taxable income.   


loss of income
I think this is happening to many of us in this profession.  I am making two thirds of what I made 13 years ago and there is no way to get clients in my area as one hospital went out of business, two merged and gave the docs laptops and the largest only uses one service and has a 10 year contract but I have heard they are giving all new doctors laptops too.  The hospitals in my area own most of the clinics, family meds and speciality offices too.  Time for me to think about something else.
income taxes
Hi - Now working as an IC. Can anyone tell me what form or format you use when filing your taxes to list deductions from work-related items. Would appreciate any help on this.  Thanks
Income potentials...
There are so many variables to that, but since no one has posted yet...

I think the average for a newbie (which you will be starting out until 2 years) is around 5-7 cents per line. The average after your "2 years of experience" goes up to about 8-10 cpl. There are so many variables, and every company is different. Of course, if you were to be running your own business, that is another story altogether, which maybe someone else will respond to (as I have no idea on that). Most companies require between 1000 to 1200 lines per day (full time) to 5000 to 6000 (part time). That is my understanding as a general rule. I'm not an expert, but that might give you some idea anyway. There is a website/magazine called Advance for HIM. They have a salary survey on their website for MTs you might find helpful.

Hope this helps!

Rae
Just report your income
Keep copies of your invoices, and just report your income from her.  Some do not provide 1099's.  It is your responsibility to keep track of your income and report that. 
Still if she has $11-22K a month of income - sm
you don't think that is enough to pay all her bills with some left over for herself? What is her equipment made out of? Gold or some other precious metal. Most call in systems run $5-10K, even if she has 5 of them I would think she could have them paid off in a year, 2 tops; granted I do not know how long she has been in business but with 44 clients/accounts I would guess it has been a little while. If she is working out of her home then she has her "home office" deduction, if she rents an office I would suggest finding something cheaper obviously. It is just hard to comprehend that she has $11-22K a month in expenses; how many QA people does she have? What is she paying them, hourly or by the line? Are they cheating her if paid hourly? She definitely needs to do some restructuring/reorganization in order to keep afloat. She doesn't give any details so it is a little hard to give her a sensible answer, we can only guess and she will have to see what fits and what advice she finds useful. If her 44 clients barely produce 2000 lines a month, then that is $8800 a month for herself to pay bills, QA, attorney, etc. That is a much slimmer number but that is still a high cost to doing business, $105K a year, just does not seem right. But again we do not know details and can only guess.
Variable Income

You are so right.  Maybe we need to stick together and ask for hourly wage that is fair to us and to the hospital/clinic/private office, benefits that mean something, and all work our shifts.  If some of us don't keep up then we will get fired!  However, the rest of us will all benefit immensely and be fairly treated.  It seems in the world of transcriptiion that we, the transcriptionists, always get ripped off.  Consider that my husband has a "regular job" and has had yearly cost of living increases, bonuses, etc. forever.  By my estimation, my pay translated into hourly has gone down considerably.  Twenty years ago the hourly offered for our services has never changed one iota and now that we are home not only did it go down (unless we skip lunch and work over) but we have lost all our benefits unless we work for cheap line counts for big nationals.  I am tired of them taking all of my money, are you?  It is just like the health insurance racket.  They have all kinds of "middle men" who get their piece of the action from the people who really do the work.  My husband's share we pay for our benefits has gone up, his company's share has gone up and the offerings have gone down.  Why?  There is no real need for middle men.  All they do is drive the cost of things and the real workers get it in the neck or other body parts I won't mention because I am a lady. Face it, doctor's don't even know we exist any more.  There is no personal factor.  I don't need constant affirmation, but it was nice when the doctors I transcribed for vaguely or not so vaguely knew who I was and respected me and my integrity and realized I made some contribution to their practice by my careful attention to detail.  They also remembered that I too worked there when everyone else got a raise.  I guess I am done now, but this gripes me so much and we all continue to sit here and type and nothing changes.  Somehow others have insinuated themselves into our transcription business and are pocketing all the profits and calling all the shots.  Some days I feel like a rat in a wheel. 


#2 is a good income but
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taxed on net income
You take off all your deductions and pay the SS on the net business income.   Then you take that income, deduct half of the SS, your personal deductions and pay federal income tax on that net.   
Income after deductions.
Income after expenses is what you are given credit for making. If you grossed $40,000 and had $10,000 worth of expenses, you made $30,000. This is your taxable income and what is credited as your social security income.
MT, whenever I see someone saying a good income isn't possible SM
I immediately suspect that person is still typing most dictation out slowly and laboriously, letter by letter, word by word, like in the old days. Not as bad as trying to do this work on a Selectric, making corrections with Liquid Paper, but still way behind the times.

I have over 37,000 entries in my Expander program--words, phrases, paragraphs, whole report sections, and macros--and I'm still trying to catch up with people who use a lot more.

But just for instance, two Keystrokes are what it takes me to separate a run-on sentence into two and start the new sentence with a capital "The." My ShortHand knows I'm not really computer literate, so it recorded the strokes I use to type that normally and asked me to give it a name. I chose ".t"--the two keystrokes.

"Dr. Samangaranapour" is "drsam." And so on. And on.
For a slow typist, with the help of my expander I'm now record-breaking fast by the old standards.

And that's how it's humanly possible, and why so many people are still making good incomes on the current pay rates.
Since 2000, my income has gone down sm
every year and I am working more hours.  That's it in a nutshell.
Income Taxes SM

I use an accountant for my taxes and it is well worth the money.  One time I had an issue come up with the IRS and the accountant handled the problem for me.  Also, the taxes are more complicated than if you are an employee somewhere.  Good luck.


supplementing my income
I decided to apply for a U. S. Census 2010 job, took the test, and was hired.  Hooray!  Training starts in my area in a couple of weeks.  It's just the thing to supplement my MT income.  Depending on where you live, there are still lots of census jobs available.  The census bureau has already hired 140,000 census-takers and is planning to hire at least that many more.  In my area, the pay is $12.50 an hour.  It depends on your area of the country as to how much you make.  You have to commit to 20 hours a week for a minimum of 10 weeks, maximum of up 10 months.  You can work up to 40 hours if you want.  That's what I'm going to do:  Census 40 hours and MT 20 hours.  Personally, I can't wait!  I'll get to do the 2 things I love the most:  walk and talk.