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The uninsured and those with Medicaid

Posted By: me on 2007-02-02
In Reply to: Emergency Room - ERMT2PA

often use the ER for their medical care.  I was in the hospital with gastroenteritis because I was having syncopal spells from dehydration.  While still undergoing testing in the ER there was a woman on the other side of the curtain who had a headache.  She called a friend on her cell phone and had her friend come keep her company.  They talked nonstop.  I have migraines and I want quiet when I have them.   This woman had never even taken anything for the headache, just came to the ER.  An incidental finding was thrush because she had a baby and when the baby dropped the pacifier the mother stuck it in her mouth to "clean" it. 


I also type ER reports.  What gets me is when the patient has abdominal pain for 2 weeks and never sought treatment, then decides to come to the ER. 


Our local "indigent" ER is also in the only hospital to take pediatric patients, so if we should have to go to the ER we go to that one.  We thought my son had appendicitis and took him and were told they had no acute beds and he'd have to wait, yet they took several with flu symptoms ahead of us, so he was considered acute but not only no bed, but no care.  Although as I type this, I'm thinking we had no insurance at the time as DH has changed jobs and we couldn't afford Cobra.  We were less than a week away from having insurance, but had none at the time of the visit, although we did pay the bill in full, so maybe that played a factor in things. 




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