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To those below arguing politics...

Posted By: See Msg on 2005-07-07
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Please dispute this.  I welcome it.  It seems like Bush's "lies" had lots of company, although those quoted below have washed their hands of their own comments.  How convenient.


 


    "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

    "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
    President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.


    "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
    Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.


    "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
    Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18,1998.


    "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
    Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998


    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
    Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.


    "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
    Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.


    "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
    Letter to President Bush, Signed by Joe Lieberman (D-CT), John McCain (Rino-AZ) and others, Dec. 5, 2001


    "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
    Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.


    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
    Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.


    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
    Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.


    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
    Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.


    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
    Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.


    "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I b elieve that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
    Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.


    "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
    Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002.


    "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
    Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.


    "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
    Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002.


    "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
    Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002.


    "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his contin ued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
    Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.




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Don't even both arguing with her because
it will make no difference. She has this thinking that no one can change, and quite honestly I think she is quite a hypocrite. Look at the gab board where she says none of us could make it working outside of the house because we are not professionals, but really housewives trying to make a living.

Oh, I'm sorry, you can't look there because all the posts probably got deleted...yet some of her nonsense is still there.

Oh, I'm sorry, you can't look there because all the posts problem got deleted...yet some of her nonsense is still there.
And I am not arguing that at all and I never
what you are doing with your time.  But when you are not meeting the deadline and you always have an excuse as to why you couldn't meet the deadline, and it's because you are doing everything BUT getting your work done, then it's time for me to find a new MT.  If your personal life gets in the way of you meeting your deadline, then I will find someone who makes getting their work done a priority.  Some people seem to think that they should take care of everything they want to do and then if they have time, they will get their work in by the deadline.  Sorry, no.  That's why I said work first, then play.  It's called good work ethic.  And as I said, I don't care what the MT does when as long as the work is turned in by deadline.  If it's not, then that's a problem.
I'm not arguing with you - sm

All I was saying is that one has to look at the end picture and decide for themselves if it is worth it or not.  To look only at the cpl is not sufficient. 


Yes, the industry is  no longer MT friendly.  Platforms are definitely not for our benefit.  I have worked behind the scenes for too many years when some plaftforms were just in beta testing stages.   I've walked away from accounts because it just wasn't worth it any longer.  But not everyone is in the same position that I am lucky enough to be in. 


For now, I know I can't leave my house and make more than $25 per hour without completing my degree, so until then I'll stay where I am. 


Help I am arguing and can't stop!

Folks just reading what you want to read? I said I have to drive across Brown, Clermont and Hamilton counties into Indiana to get to those kids and their other grandma does not have a computer. It is a one hour and 20 minute drive each way and no I did NOT want to retire. They could not be taken out of school to come here. At our age and living in rural areas, we could not find babysitters on such short notice. Listen as a single mother raising my kids, I worked two and three jobs. Times are different. And if you had read my post you would have seen that I drive a long way to get to them and they have no computer. Just stop it OK? I just got a private email from a gal on here...she says y'all are suffering after effects from the full moon and the eclipse. Lighten up....I ONLY wanted to know how to get a job that would let me earn less than $900. If it were illegal or an "easy" way out....no one would let you do it and they DO, even Social Security. I just wanted info on how to be an IC. You folks need a stiff drink. Take care and thank you....and thank you to A and also to K.....you two know who you are...and you answered my questions. And also in this day and age, you just don't leave your kids with "anyone." Our family is small and isolated and this was our only option in the short run.


 


I can't believe you guys are arguing about something so stupid. nm
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Exactly! And now the original poster is arguing
with us about working Christmas when that was her supposed original dilemma - we can't win, eh? Unreal. And now that I feel like mentioning it - not having a contract is nothing to brag about - there are laws for patient's privacy issues, etc., and our industry is going to be challenged by US citizens who, while finding out about offshoring Indians transcribing our work, are also not thrilled at the idea of their next-door neighbor sitting in their living room with jammies on, transcribing their medical records without any legal contracts - scary stuff. Not professional to say the least. Of course, the original poster will now argue that she is a 100% pro - though she didn't know what her rights were when it came to working holidays...
I think we're arguing the same point
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Sorry. I wasnt arguing with you. Im just generally
it just gets me p1ssed off, and then i start ranting!
What a clear case of nothing better to do -- arguing over something so silly. nm
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Well your statement sounds equally closed-minded to the one you're arguing with
Where one person prefers to live and why is their own business and no reason to diss someone else's personal choice.
Office politics. SM

There was a lot of that before I became an MT.  Maybe I was just lucky, after I went into MT we were on a great incentive plan and were highly competitive, I don't think we had time to gossip and backstab. I know what you mean though, I have had those jobs.


About Politics Board (sm)
is ForuMatrix part of MTStars?  I couldn't quite figure it out.  I see Billers/Coders forum is hosted there as well.  Please explain?
Please take to Politics. Locking. (NM)
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office politics
I will never forget the Friday night when, after working from 6:30 a.m. to 6:30 p.m. Monday through Thursday, I left my desk at 5:25 to head for home and my supervisor went ballistic. After four 12 hours days, I left my desk 5 minutes early (it was a good 5 minute walk to the time clock) and she got angry with me. Nor will I forgot all of the times my supervisor procastinated on deadlines and guess who was there late meeting her deadlines? In-house is not for me, I enjoy my freedom.
What do politics have to do with this challenge?

I feel bad that you lost your account, but you don't need to be taking your anger out on other people and start calling them Republicans and blaming her for your belief of the mistreatment of MTs.  This was a simple challenge on how to make more money and spend your time wisely.


It's still on the Politics board
Under the title "Do you think people will begin to take any job."
Politics and gourds
I need to check in to the politics board, haven't  been there in awhile.  Still painting gourds and other stuff.  Off today with the grandkids to do some cave exploring and try to cool off.
Insanity in politics in America
....I hear you. This insanity is not going to end until we, the American folks, the backbone of this country, BECOME MORE PROACTIVE. We have become a complacent society. We accept anything the government puts out there as the truth. We need to question everything, look and dig deep as to the motivation of our leaders. We are a stressed out society, have become more materialistic, tuned out, burned out and so we have no energy left to become more proactive in our government, OUR VOICE.

Look around what is happening in this country. Our leaders, especialy Bush, project an all American image, but how American can it be when we give attention more to providing jobs in third world countries than attention to the job situation in our own country? Why even Bush used Indian BPO services for his 2nd term campaign!! Did he not think of us Americans first? We outsource
everything with no intelligent guideline to assess the effects. Our country has stopped looking at long term and long range effects and has substituted short tem fixes which benefit powerful corporations. Think about it and do some research, the Bush dynasty has been built on oil. They are a powerful family and have had a long term relationship with the Bin Ladens and the Saudis. How objective can he and his administration be? Just think about this - since his popularity is at its worst, funny how all of a sudden the gas prices are dropping? ... And no I'm not a democrat, a liberal, just a concerned citizen. Our government has become all spin. It's all about the spin.
(nm) I tried to post on the politics board, but was not able.......sorry
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I have no desire to talk politics.

That would be true most especially here .. this is not a place for that sort of heavy discussion.  I prefer face to face.  And, just to be clear, I too am of the mind that we certainly need to be vigilant, and I was merely responding to the fact that I found it ironic that this particular day was chosen .. I will be watching the Boston Pops in 10 minutes and thanking God for having the freedoms I enjoy.  I did not need to be chided as we all have opinions.


 


where on politics, under demo, repub, etc etc??
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office politics never change--sm
find another at-home job. It won't stop just because you want it to. JMO
Always have felt they were more politics than beneficial. nm
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Take the political banter to the Politics board.

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Celine. No contest. Besides, Babs is into politics now. :) nm

Aren't politics and religion social no-nos? sm
And I believe there is a very good reason for that.
I neve discuss politics or religion
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IC good thing is no more office politics.....nm

Post political discussion on the Politics boards.
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Post political discussion on the Politics boards.
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As always, political posts should be posted on the Politics board.
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Posts about political topics go on the Politics board

If you are talking about President Obama's stance, action, statements concerning offshoring - it is political.  It goes on the Politics board.


If you are talking about healthcare industries and what Congress, the Senate, the GOP or other leaders are doing or not doing about - it is political.  It goes on the Politics board. 


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Hated it. The office politics, the dressing up, the back-stabbing. I do in 4 hours what I did in 8
at home.  That hospital environment with all those women backstabbing, worrying about how long other people took for breaks or lunch, who was in favor with the supervisor, who fit in with the cliques,  UGGGGGGHHHHH!   I can't believe I am saying this but MQ looks good compared to those days now that you got me to thinking.  (Not that good pay-wise/benefit-wise though)
If you are a visitor wanting to turn the Hurricane Katrina disaster into politics, take it to the
Politics forums.  Do not post on the Main board.  Administrator
Office politics. That is why I enjoy working at home. In the office,
people are in other people business. Just mind your own business.
30 day TAT in this office ... office politics at its best

I have kept in touch with an MT I worked with at the last in-house job (radiology).  This was inpatient radiology and also an outpatient radiology clinic the hospital operated.


One of the girls, a person who at one time folded towels but who was hired as a clerk, was just discovered to ahve not mailed out reports for 30 days.  These include both in house reports and outpatient reports.  They have been sitting on her desk because she "has not had time to do them." 


What do you make of this?   The lead MT is close to this girl (hence her being moved from housekeeper to clerk) and is trying to minimize the impact that not having the reports mailed to referring physicians' offices, as if it is a minor problem (how they found out about it is a doc's office called the MT's supervisor and asked why 30 days worth of reports were mailed to their office yesterday.


They were keeping it from the director of radiology.  I think this is BIG and that heads should roll for negligence.


What do you think?