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manic depression

Posted By: LP on 2006-10-06
In Reply to: manic depression - mom

Does she see a psychologist? This would really help her in helping her accept her disease.  Are all the other diseases an excuse to be able to say that she isn't manic depressive.  Also she sounds a little manipulative.  How old is she. Also there are support groups such as NAMI that help people with mental illness


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My best friend of the past 16 years is manic depressive. She comes from a family who many have either manic depression or bipolar disorder. She is a great person and a truly wonderful friend. Her depression is part of her. At times it can be hard, but not for me... for her. Being there for a friend when they need it is all they you need to do. Regardless of anything. Be supportive. Be all of the things you would be with ANY friend that you have. This is no different.
manic depression
I could use some advise. I have much experience with manic depression - my mother was excessively depressed, etc.  My problme is that my fiance has an adult daughter who is also a manic depressant, who is also extremely hypochondriac - she has had as she states - cancer, ovairan cysts, endometriosis, migraines, shoulder rotator cuff tears - you name it she has had it - however when we runn all over to multplie doctors - she goes to several - and they run tests, er visits etc, and noone finds anything, she gets manic and really goes off.  She does use multiple medications, pain and otherwise - and I belive she is addicted to the pain meds.  We now have her going to our family doctor, and she has signed papers for us to have disclosure to information and again - nothing is ever found.  Because they are doctors - when she complains, of course they have to run tests, but this is getting costly - the insurance companies do now want to pay - and it is now depressing my fiance, he does not know what to do.  I have been able to handle her and show her ina round about way that I am aware of what she is doing, so she becomes a bit more honest with me, but not to herself or others. Now she will not talk to me.  That is okay - as a MD I know she will come around soon.  My questions is - how do we get her to a psychiatrist that will get through to her and help her.  She goes to one only rarely and she is not honest with him either.  I believe that she has much more than manic depression and want to get her help.  I need some serious suggestions.  Has anyone gone through this and gotten the help they need.
Manic Depression. sm
I have had experience with a family member with bipolar disorder, also. Unfortunately, it's probably one of the most difficult situations I personally have ever experienced. So, let me say first off, good luck to you. (And I mean that in a very sincere way.)

If she is taking pain meds regularly along with her bipolar meds, the bipolar meds don't stand a chance. It's just like drinking alcohol habitually while taking them. No way can they be effective.

You asked for help and I wish I could tell you exactly what to do. I can't. I will say, however, to get her off of the other meds and do it now. She needs serious counseling, not what a psychiatrist provides, but a psychologist or simple counselor. The psychiatrists we saw simply wrote the scripts, made a few suggestions, and stuck out a bill. In-depth professional counseling will do her a world of good.....and this is, once again, only if she's off those other meds.

I do wish you the best of luck. Keep your patience; you're going to need it. Let us know how it goes, okay?
I'm wondering how you came to the conclusion that she has manic depression. Was she diagnosed

with this?  From what I read, it doesn't sound like manic depression to me.  Sure, she has some issues going on there, major depression would be a pretty good guess, but does she have any manic episodes?


My ex-husband and ex-mother-in-law were both bipolar which is the new and improved way to say manic depressive and they were the exact opposite of hypochondria.  During the manic phase, they felt like they ruled the world.  According to them, they had never felt better, thought more clearly, or got more done, but the exact opposite was true.  They never slept.  They never finished anything they started.  They were incoherent at times, basically jumping from one subject to the next so you could not carry on any kind of coherent conversation with them.  Sometimes they were even delusional - my mother-in-law thought she was in love with a televangelist and divorced her husband and moved to be closer to the televangelist.  My ex-husband thought he was the victim racism when he got a speeding ticket.  He claimed the officer had something against Hispanics.  Nevermind that my husband was maybe one-eight Mexican on his mother's side and has a German last name.


Those are just a couple of examples of manic behavior.  It can even be more bizarre.  I could write a book based on what I've seen first hand and it can be very scary.


manic

She is early 20's and has been diagnosed as bipolar manic depressive.  She has been hospitalized in the past as well.  I certainly would not have said she had this problem if she had not been diagnosed.  I do appreciate you having dealt with this in the past as well - as I noted I too had very close family members with this problem.  I appreciate your comments and understand that advice probably will not be forthcoming, just more comments etc.  thanks anyway, but comments run rampid regardng this concern already here, which is why I reached out for advice and suggestions.


Again I thank you for your observations.


I never noticed he was manic
I always liked him and thought he was cute.  Now he kind of turns me off, though.  Still want to see War of the Worlds, however.   I always thought he had the nicest smile.
I'm going to be manic-depressive if I
soon don't get some work! LOL
Tom Cruise has always been manic. He has always been what he is, you just haven't noticed it.
He was always cute and now he looks haggard and it seems like he is trying to recapture his youth with Katie Holmes.   Whatever.  He did make some really good movies and I think he is extremely talented but no heart throb. 
I certainly don't think transcription causes the depression..

I think that maybe in-home Transcriptionist need to get out more and be part of other things, and the lack of then might bring on the depression.  I could see where social anxiety could come into a factor in this lifestyle.  That why it is important to join groups and clubs and have interests and friends away from this computer.  As for transcription, I enjoying doing what I do and have done for the past 12 years.  Yeah, it has it bad points, but do does every job.  I probably make more than anywhere else I could around my town, I don't get paid vacations or even a paid sick day, but when I worked in an office It would take an act of congress to get a vacation day approved, so go-figure....


Some people say, "Gosh! I don't know how you do that all day", and  my response, Gosh! I don't see how you do what you do all day and you don't make half what I make!!!!!"  To each their own.  It is more than a job, it is a carreer and when you have a carreer you are continually learning.  Knowledge is power no matter what you do.   Where else can you be part of the birth a baby or two or three - with one mother who had been trying to have a child 7 times,  remove a bullet from a spinal cord of a police officer, counsel a battered homeless wife,  help a HIV patient try to find shelter,  have a 16 yo MVA patient come in and go through surgery after surgery and then see that he gets discharged home,  where else could you be a fly on the wall when all these things are going on and just sit back in wonder and sometimes be thankful, that is not my child or that is not my husband and that is not my parent!  And this can all be in one days' work.   Never got dirty, did not have to buy any gas and did not have to get dressed up to go to work to be a part of all this.  But it was my days' work. 


WOW did not mean to get into all that serious stuff there !


 


 


How does this presage depression?
It is a possible indication of future inflationary pressure in some isolated market sectors, not by any stretch of the imagination a prediction of depression. There is no evidence offered here that the emerging economies will not continue to expand. Just because India claims the economies of the developed world are a threat to its own economy does not mean it is so. Their economists consistently pursue an anti-Western agenda for reasons wholly unrelated to economic reality. China's economy can absorb significantly more expansion and their rising wealth will, indeed, stimulate demand for imported goods and services. They will eventually recognize that allowing their currency to find its own level on the world market is in their best economic and political interest. That will go a long way toward rationalizing perceived trade imbalances. No need to panic.
I took it for situational depression.
I was on it for about a week when I became suicidal and became consumed with trying to figure out a way how to do it.  My DH had to call me every hour to make sure I was okay.  Also my libido went to ZERO.   Both are common side effects of this particular drug, though obviously no everyone has them. 
Depression is an illness. (sm)
Believe it or not, I understand your feelings about just doing your job day after day and not being appreciated. I think most of us can relate to it; I know when I clean the house or do the laundry, nobody seems to notice, but let me get behind, and boy, howdy all of a sudden I get some attention.

But depression is an ILLNESS, not just a lack of get up and go!!! And a person who suffers from it is hard enough on themselves emotionally without having to hear from people who don't understand it how lazy they are and how undeserving of any support they are.

You need to work on some compassion, and if you can't say anything nice, why say anything at all? If you're feeling underappreciated, for heaven's sake DO something about it. Post on the board that you need some sympathy and you'll get it. We're all in the same boat, really!
Yes it was due to depression and I realize that....

How cruel you are.  I AM not a crack addict - I have NEVER done drugs.  I don't drink.  I don't even smoke.  I do have a child that was involved in this tragedy.  Actually I had two - the one that I lost.  So I am sorry if I was "weak" for the tragedies that I did go through but I am learning to cope with life.  Life is hard and apparently it is sunshiney everyday at your house - and good for you - I don't want to wish anything bad on anyone - even when they have no lack of respect for others.  You should watch what you say - things could turn around on you in your happy life in an instant - and then what would you do.  Would you be considered lazy, worthless or something else that is an undeserving gesture of who you really are?  Maybe someone will say "they are just on crack - they deserve what they are getting.  Maybe that just goes to show what laziness will do to you.  They don't deserve anything better."  I was not asking for sympathy.  I was pointing out how fast things CAN turn around when you are off track.  Merely using my fall to try to prevent someone else's.


I do thank all of the wonderful remarks prior to the rude post.  I am healing but it takes times.  I am actually able to get up and not be sad about what I have lost and I have been able to THANK GOD every day for letting me grow through certain things in my life and that I know they happened for a reason.  The reason will be a brighter future!


Type of depression

Could it be suicidal depression?


Clinical depression
You better believe depression is real! It exists in my family and among my closest friends, and it is a painful and frustrating disease. Diabetes is often used as an analogy to compare to depression. I think it is a good one because a) diabetes is a real illness and no amount of "sucking it up" will help the body produce insulin, b) it can be treated with medication but not usually cured, and c) lifestyle adjustments coupled with medication help most diabetics feel better and function well. The same are true of depression.

Have you checked into a local county/city community services organization? There should be something available that charges fees according to your income. You need not be on welfare or Medicaid to be eligible. Go through the local government pages of your phone book and see. Call any social services type number and they can put you in touch with what you need.

Are you able to consider borrowing money from someone for a short time? Once you are under treatment you will certainly be able to pay it back quickly as you have all kinds of ability to make a living; it is just that your illness has made you disabled currently.

Also, please try to talk to someone sympathetic personally. The human touch of personal contact is so superior to what can be offered on-line. You could tell them what you have said here, or if that seems to be too strenuous, print out your post here and show it to someone, let them read it. It might break the ice and allow you to feel more comfortable speaking to them about it. The person you talk to need not be the one with the answers, right now they need to be the one who will listen and encourage you.

Many of us will continue to listen here as well, but you really need a live person in front of you to open up to at some point. It really will help, if you can do it.

My thoughts and prayers are with you for your success in treating this awful disease.
Depression Is Real
The neighbor has a wireless Internet connection that is not password protected I can pick up on.

And to anyone who thinks depression does not exist or is all just a thought in your head you're dead wrong. I would assume anyone in the medical profession would realize that.

Do you think little kids get depressed and cut themselves because they are not making enough money? Kids don't think or care about that.

I appreciate the warm thoughts and advice from everyone here but please don't say that you don't believe in depression. "Take a shower, get up and go get a job" is easier said than done.
Afraid of another depression in USA

all of the above, and tinnitus, depression. (nm)
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You are very ignorant about depression and antidepressants...SM
The drugs you list are NOT "happy" pills and are NOT addicting. They correct a chemical imbalance in the brain and (hopefully) allow the depressed person to feel somewhat NORMAL again. They are not uppers as you imply.

Unless you've experienced the living hell that is clinical depression and the wonders these medications can do, keep your mouth shut.


I suffer from seasonal depression
and am using light therapy.  This has been about two or three weeks now, and I cannot believe the difference in my mood.  It is wonderful.  I put in a fluorescent light fixture in my office that takes four 4-foot bulbs  I bought bulbs at Home Depot.  They had a large selection.  I bought ones that say they imitate sunlight.  Now working under them for my regular shift, I have felt a huge difference in my mood.  I thought I was going to have to go on medication, but now I feel so much better. 
what board for support for depression? sm
My job is totally getting to me and I thought there was a support board on here... I could use someone to talk to. TIA for any info.
weight gain and depression!!! nm
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Depression linked to excessive computer use.

About 3 years ago, before deciding on becoming an MT, there was an article--I am currently looking for it now--which stated that people who use a computer for excessive amounts of time are more likely to suffer from depression. Anxiety can also be caused by depression. So, I think all can be correct.


I think the most important thing is to try to stay active. With me, I have to have a second job, so I think that helps keep me in a social situation. I just hope maybe years down the road it doesn't affect me.


 


No clue but try the emotion/depression board

http://www.forumatrix.com/ads/frame.cgi?action=main&target=www.forumatrix.com/Health/b/4.html


Try this board as you may get more of a response from people who may know.


:)


 


 


Please help on depression board. I put the link inside.


tell her if she really does have PP depression, coming home won't fix a thing.
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Depression? Brings our jobs home
I personally think we are headed for a depression.  I believe in our gung-ho desire to improve our trade partners (invest in our country so we could continue to export our debt) we mistakenly sent our jobs overseas.  Now, facing high unemployment, we need our jobs back.  Therefore, I am asking that you contact your local congresspeople and request that our jobs be brought back from foreign countries, thus increasing domestic production and increasing the number of jobs.  This is the perfect time to do this. In order to come out of a depression, we have to increase production.  We cannot export all production and having to produce.  Believe me, now is the time to request our jobs be brought back to the U.S.  The alternative is extremely bleak, and your elected officials know it.
Left out depression, anxiety, becoming a hermit...
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Did your mom grow up in the depression? Woman I worked with did the same thing.

party at her home.  Low and behold she had a whole room full of toilet tissue she has spirited away from the office over the 30 years!!!!  She had grown up in the depression and I guess it was a big deal to have toilet tissue.  She sure hoarded it. 


 


Prozac was great! Took for depression for 10 yrs! Saved my life. nm
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Good luck, my husband suffers from depression, which he acknowleges, but do something about it,NO-sm
He did actually go the doctor who prescribed Xanax and Lexapro, this was back in March just before my daughter got diagnosed with the Wilm's....to date he has not taken 1 pill.  He does talk about it now and then but he is afraid of how the pills will make him feel and of ED too, plus he hates pills in general, can't even get him to take an aspirin/Advil when he has a headache.  When he is in one of his "moods" it's pretty horrible for about a week or so, though they are getting better.  Had a very long dry spell of 6+ months then wham, he got really bad, and it's been no bed of roses lately with it either but I think we are in a mend phase right now so we will see how it goes.  All I can say is try to get him first acknowledge he has a problem, then off to the doctor of course and hopefully if he is prescribed meds for him to actually take them.  I have tried to think of ways I could "slip him a Mickey" but that is not going to work and he needs to do it on his own anyway.  I hope it works out for you (and me too!)
you can be Sam-E solo and it is great with depression/mood swings. valerian root and/or melatonin b
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Yes, she had post partum depression AND post partum psychosis. I posted on this a while back, and
it explained the two. The psychosis actually develops after the depression. Scary stuff.