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US real MTs or US voice recognition?

Posted By: Just wondering. on 2008-04-11
In Reply to: U.S. - newbielw

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Voice Recognition
Hi everyone, I have a general question about voice recognition. Is it worth the investment to buy a voice recognition program for a medical Transcriptionist working from home? I ask because I have only been doing this for about 2 months, recently graduated from a MT program at Kennesaw State in Georgia, and I feel as if even after I get the experience and even being a fast typer like I am, I am never going to be able to earn enough doing this where I can move out on my own. I live with my mom right now. So I had the idea of a voice recognition program in combination with my own typing. I realize that voice recognition is not perfect so I would edit as I typed. I know there are a few hospitals going this route now so I figured why not me. I would love opinions on this. Thanks.
Voice Recognition
No! No! No! Voice recognition is nowhere where it needs to be right now. Very few dictators enunciate clearly enough for the system. It is very expensive and we just got it in our hospital and are very very disappointed with the results. Out of over 1000 doctors, only about 10 of them speak clearly enough to produce good results. In about another 5 years, hopefully things will improve. By the way, we have Dolbey Voice.
VOICE RECOGNITION

I am new entrant in the MT field and find typing long hours real punishing.  I want to share the experience of anyone who has tried voice recognition technology and its practical use in reducing typing work load and speeding up work.  I have tried it myself and find the process of correcting the output to be as time-consuming as doing it manually.


ASR, VR or other voice recognition

programs.  Does anybody have any advice on how to zip through these reports like we are apparently supposed to be doing?  I find editing often takes much longer than it would have taken me to type it straight out.  It's not so bad when dictators are really good, but most do present daily challenges.  It is so frustrating.  I am open to whatever advice you have to improve my editing skills. 


God bless and thank you in advance.


VR = Voice Recognition
Also referred to by other similar names. Basically, what it means is that dictated reports are run through software systems that are supposed to recognize the speaker and speaker's words and transfer them to a transcribed report. Then that report is supposed to be lightly and quickly edited for correct wording, punctuation, etc. What none of these VR systems can do is ignore background noise and extraneous sounds or even understand the dictator who is talking while chewing gum, eating or for Heaven's sake anything else. VR cannot determine the difference between the identified MD and the PA, NP or whomever is actually dictating the report for that MD. VR will not necessarily get the correct word when it does understand the correct word (ex: 2, to, too, two or fair/fare, or by/buy, etc.) VR cannot think or reason. It cannot go back and change anything the dictator requests to be changed or added. It never knows what to do with "um, next, a, and stuttering."

All VR software will add and leave out words. I've never worked on any VR report that did not require just about as much work as standard transcription. They all need something. In fact, some are so bad that it is just easier to delete everything the system puts in and retype the whole thing from scratch. And companies want to pay rather poorly for us to edit these reports. VR is a mess everywhere.


Voice Recognition/ Dying Breed????

Hello!


I have been scriping and saving to afford going to MT school.  Now two ladies that I know, wives of doctors, have warned me not to spend my time and money on MT school because MTs are a dying breed and voice recognition technology is taking over the MTs work, all that is needed now are people to do data entry which pays very little.  Is this true??? Something to worry about in the future or are they just uninformed about what it is that MTs do?  Any imput would be greatly appreciated!!!


Thanks in advace,


~Kate


Editing, Voice Recognition, Mentors
I need some information please. Can someone fill me in on Editing, Voice Recognition (I know what it is but don't know how about it in terms of a transcriptionist's duties), and also, can you find someone to mentor you to become a Transcriptionist and how would you find such a person?
Line requirements in Voice Recognition

For those of you that do VR, I was wondering what your hourly  or daily line requirments are, if you work part-time or full-time, and how many hours you work per day.  Newbie in the field and I was just wondering what the "norm" out there was. 


Only if you'll get into voice recognition and editorship. Look at how many hits a job on the job
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4 cents per line for speech editor/voice recognition
Is this a decent pay?
If you want REAL textbooks, a REAL instructor, and REAL feedback ...
on how you're doing, then M-Tec is the way to go.

CS is NOT as good, homemade materials, correct your own work by comparing it to something typed by someone else, etc.

I attended CS and if I knew then what I know now, I would choose M-TEC (or Andrews School) in a heartbeat.
ASR = automatic speech recognition
which is the same thing as basically any other voice recognition system. It all sucks and still takes just as long, sometimes longer, than standard transcription and the system is never as good at doing its job as the makers try to make people believe. Therefore, it is the MT who has to get in there and clean up the mess. That can be anywhere, not just an MQ issue.

As far as the rest, it just sounds like the company made some changes that ruffled the feathers of a few MTs. Clearly, some talk-the-talk of leaving and may do so, it's a free country. But, others still stay. The confusion is about how bad is bad. If I were in my 20s and felt like the company I was working for was jerking me around - I'd be gone in a New York minute. But, I am a whole lot older than that and have built up a buffer of sorts over time and feel that many things I thought were so important (or infuriating) in my 20s is pretty petty and lame now. So, it's hard to tell what is real and what is just gossip and pot-stirring.

I've read some compelling posts. Some quite interesting. Some insinuate the company doesn't care about the MT. How much caring do you need? When I'm hired to do a job, that is my focus. I do not want nor expect my employer to nurtur me and tuck me into bed at night. Just let me do my job and leave me alone. What's wrong with that? I am, however, concerned about this uneven workload where some MTs have little to no work, while others have an abundance. That's just poor management.

If no one wants to give the "real deal" of what it is like working there, that is fine. All I could do was ask.

So, thanks anyway.
Does speech recognition really give you less typing?
TTS, LLC says that you really only have to proofread.  Does anyone know if this is true?
You Cant Be Real!!!!!
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You open your voice files with sm
whatever software you're using for voice, i.e. Wavpedal, etc.  You don't open them in Word.
M-TEC not honest? Are you for real??
I have personally met Susan and Kathy several times, both in and out of school, as a student and a working grad. They never glossed over the reality of being a working MT, what is required to find and keep a job, the kind of money one can make. Ask them real questions and you will get real answers.

While they prepare you for the real working MT world, you DO have to do the work yourself and secure your own job testing, which I found was not a problem one bit because I applied myself in school and absorbed as much as I could. I was offered to test for too many places to list when I graduated and landed a job within days of graduation, which I have successfully kept and flourished in for more than 5 years. I have also made really good money and been very satisfied with my career choice.

I believe, as in most things, good communication is key. If someone has issues they really do need to take them up with the source and allow them to be addressed in an honest and open fashion.
You said it all in that post, your REAL job is being a mom
so it's coming off like you don't consider MT'ing a real job, and rather just a way to make some cash in between burping, feeding, changing, entertaining the children, and it most certainly is not. Perhaps that is why the not so nice posts. I have said it from day #1, you absolutely can't be a full time mom and work a job where you are expected to produce quality work unless the kids are in daycare or school part of the day or you have another adult at home with you to help out with the children while you are working. Contrary to what the "ads" say, it just doesn't work very well. I was an MT trainer/mentor for at-home newbies for many years so I know first hand.
In the real world

Your employer or clients will tell you how to format SOAP notes.  There is no universal format law.  Each practice determines its own format.  One of my clients wants the name and account number on one line with the DOB and DOS on separate lines under that.  Another client wants each item on a separate line.  A thid client wants a different format altogether. 


There is no point in worrying about various formats until you have a job or a client, at which time you will be told what they want.


I'm gonna come across as a real

stinker, but your spelling of regular English words has to be top-notch to pass a test in the future.  Another word to burn into your brain is "definitely."  There are no A's in it!  These things are so important!   


i need sample voice files to practice

I need help. I am a recent graduate and I would like to know what websites offer free sample voice files where I can practice.  Thanks


A wav file is not short for waveform. It is a voice
file that you would receive over the internet, not via C-phone.  You need software/foot pedal to be able to play the wav files.  Wav is pretty much the generic term, but there are many different formats, like mp3, DSS, etc. that the files could be in. 
Why did you choose this post to voice your opinion?
It appears as if the OP was so happy about passing the test and receiving that phone call that she rushed to the computer to share her good news with the world. Would it have been so awful to just wish her luck and share her joy? I have been an MT for a year, and I still feel proud and happy each time I pass a test. It is hard for a newbie or someone with less than 2-3 years of experience to get a company to even let you test. When you then pass the test and get a phone call, that is veryexciting and makes you feel good. You could have wished her luck publicly and then sent her an email making her aware of her mistakes along with some tips. This New MTs forum is the last place on this board to post a message like yours.

Why can't some people just let others feel good about themselves?

I'm confused ... you should be opening the voice files (sm)

in express scribe or some program like that.  Word 2007 is used only for typing the actual files you're listening too, it has nothing to do with opening .wav files or anything other than text files.


 


 


Real life dictations...
Hi!  In real-life dictations, can you actually understand them compared to course work?  Many tapes have so much background noise & static or they run their words together, etc.  Thanks for your input!  Getting discouraged...
trust me, we can tell the real MTs a mile away!
Welcome! :-)
Is this post for real? Take care of your
or napping.
CS doesn't even supply you with real
reference materials, except for the dictionary and drug book. All other books were written by the owner, who was trained by her mother, who taught herself.

I would rather have had real instructors instead of an "automatic grader" and real books instead of "home made" ones.
Oh yeah, that's real nice
You ought to be ashamed of yourself to say that you are helping people when you are dangling a position in her face, and then have enough nerve to rant about it.  Everyone has a different situation.  So, she says she is Mom first, aren't we all?  Geez....  You people are amazing.  Lisa, I commend you, for standing up for yourself.  You'll make it in this business because it does take assertiveness whether it be now or in the future.  Do not think for one minute there are not people in this field choosing their own hours so they can be mothers plus have an income.  God bless, good luck, and take care of your children and your business as they only have one mother, but there are plenty of jobs out there for the taking. 
You are a real piece of work!
Do you have any purpose in life other than to instigate trouble and annoy people? You have been reprimanded numerous times by the moderators of this board, yet you just won't stop! If I were a moderator, you would have been banned from ever posting on this board again a long time ago! Enough already!
No real average. Too many factors.
Font type and size, margins, headers and footers can all affect how many lines fit on a page. How many lines I get per page for my account may differ drastically than what someone else is getting due to different formatting.
is 'neurospine' a real word?
Hi all,I have need of your wisdom today. I have run across a dictator using the word 'neurospine' As slang is disapproved of highly here, can anyone tell me if this is a real word or some abbreviation doctors use for convenience?

Thanks in advance,
Skye
Welcome to the world of real medical transcription.
That's what a lot of doctors' dictation sounds like. You have to be able to handle it. That's why it's on the tests.
Meditech hires newbies for real
Meditech is a company that does hire newbies for their internship.  I finished my internship in October and am now a full-time employee.  I am posting this message to let everyone know who hasn't found that perfect company that hires newbies, that this is a legitamate company who does.  Everyone wants you to have experience, this is how you get that experience. 
Those are not unnecessary questions. VERY real questions.
If you are indeed a "big girl" then get some credible information and make a mature, informed decision for yourself.

My goodness. Where does the personal accountability come into play?